"Plan 9 is a distributed operating system. It uses clusters of servers to act as application servers, storage servers, and IO servers. It is ideal for clustered systems with hundreds or thousands of cores!"
Yeah , distributed OS. Nice buzzphrase but means bugger all. An OS is by definition the software than runs the hardware its executing on via the CPU and controls access to resources by application programs to that CPU. Therefor a "distributed" OS is nothing more than a whole load of seperate OSes heavily linked by RPC style calls. I'm sure it sounds cool in powerpoint presentations however.
Well , cutting edge for 1990. If thats the best it can do on a supercomputer it doesn't bode well for your average PC!
I'm sure Plan 9 is an interesting intellectual exercise for the people involved, but other than that , what exactly is its point? The way some people refer to it you'd think it was the 2nd Coming in the world of operating systems. Well if thats the case its the longest coming in history. Has it broken any new ground with any new operating paradigms? (Thats a genuine question , I don't know). I do wonder why thety bother and don't just try and integrate any new ways of thinking they've come up with into pre-existing systems such as Linux or BSD.
"And I'm sure you've heard something about the outrageous price of gas?"
Where , in the USA? I don't think so. You lot have the cheapest petrol on the planet. Besides , theres always public transport. I assume you still have that over there?
"I would expect you to feel a similar form of outrage should your chosen form of entertainment receive similar treatment"
Prices of books, cinemas, fitness centres etc go up in price all the time. You buy or your don't buy. You don't have a god given right to be able to pay the same price forever.
I imagine buried somewhere in reams of smallprint there was a get-out clause. These companies might sail close to the edge but they're generally smart enough never to go over it.
Theres always the satellite option even if theres no other cable option. Unless he really needs HD in which case he may possibly be stuck. But like I said , its just TV. Hardly something to get worked up about never mind post your grievances onto slashdot as a "story".
Its just TV for gods sake, not life saving medical equipment. As the provider that can choose what terms they like. Yes maybe its unfair but you as a consumer have the option of taking your money and custom elsewhere.
"Sir Tim's synthesis isn't earth-shattering, is deluded. He's by far the most significant person alive."
Oh BS. Far more significant to the internet was email. If it hadn't been for that it would have been a complete non starter outside very specialised areas. As for TBL being the most significant person alive , I think you need to re-adjust your set. The Web isn't even close to being a daily relevance for the majority of the worlds population and even in the west a large proportion of the population couldn't care less about it. Most significant person alive , jeez , get a grip... Try looking up the names of some doctors who are battling diseases , or engineers who are helping design more efficient engines or 101 other things. Not some guy who made it possible to skip around some pages of text and pictures via a network connection. BFD.
Excuse me? MIME might be an important part of HTTP but is its certainly not at the heart of it. You could run a complete , albeit simple webserver without ever sending any mime information in the headers simply by using plain HTML or text.
Why is Linux surprised that a commercial company might be holding back on open sourcing a large amount of its intellectual property? Thats what they make money out of. So maybe some people in Sun have been talking up open source wrt to Solaris to get some publicity , so what? This is what companies do to get their product noticed and theres nothing wrong with it (unless you're some publicly funded socialist who does little work but mouths off a lot about some neverland utopian ideal, but I'll leave Stallman for another post). Coporations are what make the western economy run , without them and they're "nasty" hunger for profit we'd all be a lot worse off including all the rabid open source fanboys. Theres nothing wrong with Open Source but lets not start thinking its the solution to any sort of problem , it isn't. The world would still turn without Linux or the FSF. Yeah , mod me down fanboys, see if I care.
Most of the people who get really worked up and adversarial about closed source on linux are usually kids or stuck-forever-in-academia student types who've never held down a real job or had to earn money for their family using their own intellectual property. If you just ignore those fantasists they'll eventually get bored taunting you and go back to their playstations. Good luck with your project!
Because americans are well known for forgetting all about the rest of the world (unless they're invading it) so mentioning something nuclear in some strange (to them) country that happened 20 years ago is really exotic and cool and they naturally think they're the first people to discover it.
"t's vitally important in writing resource and exception safe programming."
Ah people like you crack me up. How exactly did you think programs that did that very same thing got written before someone came along and invented RAII and patterns sonny? What , you think patterns are the wheel and we all used sleds before? Jeez..
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"And while it's been ported, every port is going to bring a certain level of unnecessary bloat and inappropriate design decisions."
And Plan 9 doesn't suffer from this? It was designed specifically for Blue Gene was it? I don't think so.
I was talking about Linux or BSD. Not Windows.
"Plan 9 is a distributed operating system. It uses clusters of servers to act as application servers, storage servers, and IO servers. It is ideal for clustered systems with hundreds or thousands of cores!"
Yeah , distributed OS. Nice buzzphrase but means bugger all. An OS is by definition the software than runs the hardware its executing on via the CPU and controls access to resources by application programs to that CPU. Therefor a "distributed" OS is nothing more than a whole load of seperate OSes heavily linked by RPC style calls. I'm sure it sounds cool in powerpoint presentations however.
"It's a RESEARCH computer"
Its for researching problems using a computer. Its not generally for research computing issues themselves.
"your tourettes-like thoughts to yourself "
You were the one who swore sonny , though I suspect you don't even know what Tourettes is but you just heard it somewhere and thought it sounded cool.
"Perhaps while we're doing that, you could follow some of the links on the article and educate yourself about Plan9?"
Been there done that. I still don't see its point.
Well , cutting edge for 1990. If thats the best it can do on a supercomputer it doesn't bode well for your average PC!
I'm sure Plan 9 is an interesting intellectual exercise for the people involved, but other than that , what exactly is its point? The way some people refer to it you'd think it was the 2nd Coming in the world of operating systems. Well if thats the case its the longest coming in history. Has it broken any new ground with any new operating paradigms? (Thats a genuine question , I don't know).
I do wonder why thety bother and don't just try and integrate any new ways of thinking they've come up with into pre-existing systems such as Linux or BSD.
"And I'm sure you've heard something about the outrageous price of gas?"
Where , in the USA? I don't think so. You lot have the cheapest petrol on the planet. Besides , theres always public transport. I assume you still have that over there?
"I would expect you to feel a similar form of outrage should your chosen form of entertainment receive similar treatment"
Prices of books, cinemas, fitness centres etc go up in price all the time. You buy or your don't buy. You don't have a god given right to be able to pay the same price forever.
"so much of my financial life (credit cards, bills, banking, etc.) tied up there, it often seems like a hostage-type situation."
Well thats your fault then. You should have thought about that before you started doing everything online shouldn't you.
I imagine buried somewhere in reams of smallprint there was a get-out clause. These companies might sail close to the edge but they're generally smart enough never to go over it.
Theres always the satellite option even if theres no other cable option. Unless he really needs HD in which case he may possibly be stuck. But like I said , its just TV. Hardly something to get worked up about never mind post your grievances onto slashdot as a "story".
Its just TV for gods sake, not life saving medical equipment. As the provider that can choose what terms they like. Yes maybe its unfair but you as a consumer have the option of taking your money and custom elsewhere.
"Sir Tim's synthesis isn't earth-shattering, is deluded. He's by far the most significant person alive."
Oh BS. Far more significant to the internet was email. If it hadn't been for that it would have been a complete non starter outside very specialised areas. As for TBL being the most significant person alive , I think you need to re-adjust your set. The Web isn't even close to being a daily relevance for the majority of the worlds population and even in the west a large proportion of the population couldn't care less about it. Most significant person alive , jeez , get a grip... Try looking up the names of some doctors who are battling diseases , or engineers who are helping design more efficient engines or 101 other things. Not some guy who made it possible to skip around some pages of text and pictures via a network connection. BFD.
Excuse me? MIME might be an important part of HTTP but is its certainly not at the heart of it. You could run a complete , albeit simple webserver without ever sending any mime information in the headers simply by using plain HTML or text.
Why is Linux surprised that a commercial company might be holding back on open sourcing a large amount of its intellectual property? Thats what they make money out of. So maybe some people in Sun have been talking up open source wrt to Solaris to get some publicity , so what? This is what companies do to get their product noticed and theres nothing wrong with it (unless you're some publicly funded socialist who does little work but mouths off a lot about some neverland utopian ideal, but I'll leave Stallman for another post). Coporations are what make the western economy run , without them and they're "nasty" hunger for profit we'd all be a lot worse off including all the rabid open source fanboys. Theres nothing wrong with Open Source but lets not start thinking its the solution to any sort of problem , it isn't. The world would still turn without Linux or the FSF. Yeah , mod me down fanboys, see if I care.
Maybe in your mind you sick pervert
Most of the people who get really worked up and adversarial about closed source on linux are usually kids or stuck-forever-in-academia student types who've never held down a real job or had to earn money for their family using their own intellectual property. If you just ignore those fantasists they'll eventually get bored taunting you and go back to their playstations. Good luck with your project!
How about you go back under your rock , troll.
Because americans are well known for forgetting all about the rest of the world (unless they're invading it) so mentioning something nuclear in some strange (to them) country that happened 20 years ago is really exotic and cool and they naturally think they're the first people to discover it.
Meanwhile , back in the real world...
"Why should I ever have to do that?"
Oh I dunno , because you've changed the implementation and need to know where in the program its used so you create suitable tests? Just a wild guess.
"t's vitally important in writing resource and exception safe programming."
Ah people like you crack me up. How exactly did you think programs that did that very same thing got written before someone came along and invented RAII and patterns sonny? What , you think patterns are the wheel and we all used sleds before? Jeez..
Not just where its defined, where its used! Try grepping for a "+" in any significant program!
"The purpose of Boost is to chart and test the future of the language."
In that case C++ is doomed to be a niche language for syntax junkies.
Are you seriously using those examples as an argument FOR readability?? I hope you're just being sarcastic.