More like they would tumble horribly. If they just fell that wouldn't be so bad for the pilot but if they're spinning and pulling who knows what G then I suspect ejecting could be pretty dangerous (though obviously not as dangerous as staying in the plane!)
>Provisional IRA" bombings in Great Britain a few years back,
The IRA had little to do with religion and everything to do with the british in ireland.
As is usual in these situations religion was brought into the argument to give the terrorists a justifcation for their actions. Even then , it was one catholics against protestants , not against another religion.
"It is a common tactic in todays internet society"
Indeed. I'd have hoped better of people on here since they're supposed to be above the average IQ but given two of my posts have already been modded flamebait simply for expressing an opinion about something that happened 800 years ago you have to wonder just what thought processes - if any - go on inside these peoples minds.
Somehow I suspect if I'd said exactly the same thing about a white european power doing the same to a muslim (or any non european) nation I'd have probably been modded up for being anti-imperialist (or whatever trendy right-on concept they would pigeonhole it as).
>So you wouldn't mind if the indians decided to drive the white invaders out of America?
Are there enough indians in america to do that? Unless you mean native americans (given you're being so PC yourself...) Anyway , wouldn't bother me , I don't live there but AFAIR they spent a long loooong time trying to do just that.
>it was under the control of the Visigoths and they didn't put up much of a fight, so "invasion" is maybe stretching it a bit
So because the gauls were fairly comprehensively defeated by the roman empire the romans didn't invade Gaul? Hmm , interesting bit of revisionism.
>You're obviously prejudiced against the muslims,
Ah yes , the standard issue "you're a racist" snipe that every right-on adherent has to include in an argument when they have little else to add and hope the other person will become all defensive and give up. Doesn't work with me pal , it just makes me think you're a sad little twat who doesn't really have his own opinions but has to just regurgitate the group-think. Shame , you were doing ok up until then.
>Do you consider a country "own" after 8 century "invasion"?
Yes. And obviously the spanish did too.
>During those 8 centuries Moors and Christian and Jew people lived together.
How very cosy and inclusive. You could however say the same about any number of empires down the ages. Perhaps India and half of Africa should still be run by the British? Perhaps Spain itself should still be in charge of Mexicon and central america?
>Tell me, who did write those books?
Are you unable to search Amazon without someone holding your hand? Heres a link for you then:
"Unfortunately their civilisation was destroyed by a European power under the aegis of the Catholic Church."
Umm , actually their civilsation was destroyed by the spanish reclaiming THEIR OWN COUNTRY that had been conquered by the Moors. Highbrow civilisation or otherwise , the Moors were 8th century invaders who outstayed their welcome and were no less barbaric than the vikings when it came to aquiring land. I suggest you go and read some history books then get back to us.
Presumably in this case it actually means resdiscovered-by-western-academics since presumably these patterns have been looked at by thousands of people everyday for hundreds of years as they went to pray. I can't think of any other reason why despite millions of arabs looking at these patterns over the years they were considered "lost" to mankind until "rediscovered" by an english professor.
Sorry , but Tcl is a joke language , always has been. If it hadn't been for Tk it would have disappeared into the Where Are They Now? catagory of forgotten programming languages ages ago. Its syntax is unclear, inflexible and kludgy, the interpreters frequently had memory leaks and were unstable and its slow to boot.
Tcl is a useful scripting language if you want to knock up a quick GUI app that doesn't really have to do very much very quickly - its useless for anything else.
But you;re right , anyone who wants to do something illegal online would be a fool to use Windows. Thats not to say other OSes are impossible to hack or get a trojan into , but at least they don't put out a red carpet and a "welcome" mat for them.
Ironic you accuse me of being thick when clearly you don't have the wit to understand the simple concept we were all talking about. I'll put it in ABC style for your maxed out brain:
If you have 2 files both a similar size and one is uncompressed and one compressed , which one is more efficient to use if they both take the same time to transfer from storage? Now can you work this out? Yes? No? Oh dear, never mind. Go and play with the other students and let the adults do the real design. Ok?
Sci fi plot? Wtf are you on? Its a simple statement of probabilities - any civilisation advanced enough to reach us will be so far advanced our technology they'll have little to learn from us other than studying us socially. And they can do that at arms length.
Any intelligence advanced enough to reach Earth from another star system (or dimension?) would easily be able to disguise their presence so we couldn't see them but they could still study us. Just because aliens might exist doesn't mean they'd want to interact with us - thats taking a very human centred view of their motives. For all we know they could view us as barely above pond life in the scale of celestial intelligences and so interaction with us for them would be like us trying to have an interesting and meaningful conversation with an insect - a waste of time and effort.
"Yes, I can, and it's not a whole heck of a lot. Linear increases in computation aren't significant,"
No of course they arn't. I mean what will a user or customer care if a document search takes 3 times longer because of decompression? They have all the time in the world.
Where do people like you come from? Please tell me you don't work in IT , you are utterly clueless and should never be let near any software design.
It serves no useful purpose any longer in what is almost a 24 hour society. What difference does it make to the vast majority of people what time the sun rises and sets anymore? All it does is add a small extra layer of confusion and complexity thats no longer necessary? If people really don't want to get up when its dark then go to work an hour later and leave an hour later. With flexitime its really not an issue anymore.
"Those repeating 16-character tags compress really nicely when gzipped."
Wonderful. And you know how CPU intensive compressions and decompression is when compared with just simple scanning? Can you visualise the impact this might have on a document storage and retrieval system such as , oh I dunno , a database? If not then you shouldn't be working in IT.
Yeah , great idea. Instead of using a sane format use some bloated format then introduce an unwanted compression stage to bring the size down to what it should have been in the first place. If you want to fly somewhere you don't buy a car then stick some wings and a jet engine on it, you use an aircraft. The same reasoning should apply to the computing world but unfortunately this seems to be increasingly rare.
Lets just say this once: XML is a POOR format, its the Emporers New Clothes of document storage but hopefully someone with influence will wake up one day and smell the bullshit but I don't hold out much hope in these days of IT group-think.
Is this difficult to discerne in the same way that we were told lossy audio compression systems would be almost impossible to discerne from the original? That theory lasted about 5 mins, wonder how long this one will last?
"I remember you couldn't get anywhere on news sites during the 9/11 attacks on the WTC; even Google was horrendously slow. Non news sites all started relaying the news so that people could get hold of information."
Call me old fashioned by I just listened to the radio and watched TV. Worked for me. So much for the internet being useful in a crisis situation.
>And I want you to think for a minute about how many networks you know about where it's just two machines >connected to each other with no connection at all to the outside world?
Umm , my network at home. A friend of mines. A small company I used to work at that had 4 machines set up in a house and no net connection.
>ou're taking a stupid risk in using a unsecured communications protocol
No I'm not , because its on a friggin wired link INSIDE MY HOUSE!
>The thing is, there is always a chance of someone showing up, and you're a fool if you won't take a >simple precaution that would cost nothing, just because you think you're perfectly safe.
Yes , obviously theres a small risk a hacker will climb in through a window , install a sniffing device (ignoring the actual machines he could steal or compromise with all the information on them already) and wirelessly transmit data to his blacked out van outside where he's got lots of special CIA knock-off H4ack3Z kit full of super 733t listening devices.
"That's like saying, "If you have a million dollars in the bank it should be stored in a safe, but if you have ten thousand dollars in your house, it's okay to put it in your sock drawer." Just because the stakes are lower at home doesn't mean you can't have serious issues."
Thats a crap analogy. A valid one would be comparing storing your money in a safe in a bank in a city , or just leaving it in a box on a deserted desert island with only you there and no chance of anyone else showing up.
"Worst of all, you're building work habits that revolve around insecure protocols. When you telnet to a machine, you're sending your login information over an unencrypted connection, and this should never happen. It's just foolish."
NO it isn't. Only a fool wastes time using resources he doesn't need. Please tell me , if someone is using a completely seperate wired LAN with no connection to the internet and only 1 or 2 people using it , how *exactly* would a hacker gain access to sniff packets? Would he break into the building and hide under a table with his kit?
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"these jets would fall like rocks."
More like they would tumble horribly. If they just fell that wouldn't be so bad for the pilot but if they're spinning and pulling who knows what G then I suspect ejecting could be pretty dangerous (though obviously not as dangerous as staying in the plane!)
>Provisional IRA" bombings in Great Britain a few years back,
The IRA had little to do with religion and everything to do with the british in ireland.
As is usual in these situations religion was brought into the argument to give the terrorists a justifcation for their actions. Even then , it was one catholics against protestants , not against another religion.
"It is a common tactic in todays internet society"
Indeed. I'd have hoped better of people on here since they're supposed to be above the average IQ but given two of my posts have already been modded flamebait simply for expressing an opinion about something that happened 800 years ago you have to wonder just what thought processes - if any - go on inside these peoples minds.
Somehow I suspect if I'd said exactly the same thing about a white european power doing the same to a muslim (or any non european) nation I'd have probably been modded up for being anti-imperialist (or whatever trendy right-on concept they would pigeonhole it as).
>So you wouldn't mind if the indians decided to drive the white invaders out of America?
Are there enough indians in america to do that? Unless you mean native americans (given you're being so PC yourself...)
Anyway , wouldn't bother me , I don't live there but AFAIR they spent a long loooong time trying to do just that.
>it was under the control of the Visigoths and they didn't put up much of a fight, so "invasion" is maybe stretching it a bit
So because the gauls were fairly comprehensively defeated by the roman empire the romans didn't invade Gaul? Hmm , interesting bit of revisionism.
>You're obviously prejudiced against the muslims,
Ah yes , the standard issue "you're a racist" snipe that every right-on adherent has to include in an argument when they have little else to add and hope the other person will become all defensive and give up. Doesn't work with me pal , it just makes me think you're a sad little twat who doesn't really have his own opinions but has to just regurgitate the group-think. Shame , you were doing ok up until then.
>good dribbling.
I think you'd have made yourself look less foolish if you simply hadn't bothered to reply.
Still , some people just can't admit to themselves that they lost the argument.
I suspect given a choice quite a lot of them would love to. Their life isn't exactly a bed of roses is it.
>Do you consider a country "own" after 8 century "invasion"?
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Yes. And obviously the spanish did too.
>During those 8 centuries Moors and Christian and Jew people lived together.
How very cosy and inclusive. You could however say the same about any number of empires down the ages. Perhaps India and half of Africa should still be run by the British? Perhaps Spain itself should still be in charge of Mexicon and central america?
>Tell me, who did write those books?
Are you unable to search Amazon without someone holding your hand? Heres a link for you then:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_ss_w_h_/026-2301
"Unfortunately their civilisation was destroyed by a European power under the aegis of the Catholic Church."
Umm , actually their civilsation was destroyed by the spanish reclaiming THEIR OWN COUNTRY that had been conquered by the Moors. Highbrow civilisation or otherwise , the Moors were 8th century invaders who outstayed their welcome and were no less barbaric than the vikings when it came to aquiring land. I suggest you go and read some history books then get back to us.
Presumably in this case it actually means resdiscovered-by-western-academics since presumably these patterns have been looked at by thousands of people everyday for hundreds of years as they went to pray. I can't think of any other reason why despite millions of arabs looking at these patterns over the years they were considered "lost" to mankind until "rediscovered" by an english professor.
>Apart from the healthy job market, the fact that actually *Python can't do everything Perl can*,
Such as?
>Aaron Trevena (who hasn't used his slashdot login for so long he's forgotten it because there is so little worth reading or posting here any more)
Not eating your own dogfood? You certainly haven't contributed anything worthwhile with that post.
Sorry , but Tcl is a joke language , always has been. If it hadn't been for Tk it would have disappeared into the Where Are They Now? catagory of forgotten programming languages ages ago. Its syntax is unclear, inflexible and kludgy, the interpreters frequently had memory leaks and were unstable and its slow to boot.
Tcl is a useful scripting language if you want to knock up a quick GUI app that doesn't really have to do very much very quickly - its useless for anything else.
>Or was the guy's trojan multi-OS capable?
No such thing.
But you;re right , anyone who wants to do something illegal online would be a fool to use Windows. Thats not to say other OSes are impossible to hack or get a trojan into , but at least they don't put out a red carpet and a "welcome" mat for them.
Ironic you accuse me of being thick when clearly you don't have the wit to understand the simple concept we were all talking about. I'll put it in ABC style for your maxed out brain:
If you have 2 files both a similar size and one is uncompressed and one compressed , which one is more efficient to use if they both take the same time to transfer from storage? Now can you work this out? Yes? No? Oh dear, never mind. Go and play with the other students and let the adults do the real design. Ok?
And you think thats simpler than having a compact, uncompressed file format to start with?
Christ , no wonder all the software development is going to india. People like you are probably the reason.
Sci fi plot? Wtf are you on? Its a simple statement of probabilities - any civilisation advanced enough to reach us will be so far advanced our technology they'll have little to learn from us other than studying us socially. And they can do that at arms length.
Any intelligence advanced enough to reach Earth from another star system (or dimension?) would easily be able to disguise their presence so we couldn't see them but they could still study us. Just because aliens might exist doesn't mean they'd want to interact with us - thats taking a very human centred view of their motives. For all we know they could view us as barely above pond life in the scale of celestial intelligences and so interaction with us for them would be like us trying to have an interesting and meaningful conversation with an insect - a waste of time and effort.
"Yes, I can, and it's not a whole heck of a lot. Linear increases in computation aren't significant,"
No of course they arn't. I mean what will a user or customer care if a document search takes 3 times longer because of decompression? They have all the time in the world.
Where do people like you come from? Please tell me you don't work in IT , you are utterly clueless and should never be let near any software design.
Christ who modded this garbage to 5 insightful?
Sure , uncompressing one document is no sweat (though not uncompressing it would be even less). Now try doing it to 10 million while the user waits.
Go get a clue.
It serves no useful purpose any longer in what is almost a 24 hour society. What difference does it make to the vast majority of people what time the sun rises and sets anymore? All it does is add a small extra layer of confusion and complexity thats no longer necessary? If people really don't want to get up when its dark then go to work an hour later and leave an hour later. With flexitime its really not an issue anymore.
"Those repeating 16-character tags compress really nicely when gzipped."
Wonderful. And you know how CPU intensive compressions and decompression is when compared with just simple scanning? Can you visualise the impact this might have on a document storage and retrieval system such as , oh I dunno , a database? If not then you shouldn't be working in IT.
Yeah , great idea. Instead of using a sane format use some bloated format then introduce an unwanted compression stage to bring the size down to what it should have been in the first place. If you want to fly somewhere you don't buy a car then stick some wings and a jet engine on it, you use an aircraft. The same reasoning should apply to the computing world but unfortunately this seems to be increasingly rare.
Lets just say this once: XML is a POOR format, its the Emporers New Clothes of document storage but hopefully someone with influence will wake up one day and smell the bullshit but I don't hold out much hope in these days of IT group-think.
Is this difficult to discerne in the same way that we were told lossy audio compression systems would be almost impossible to discerne from the original? That theory lasted about 5 mins, wonder how long this one will last?
"I remember you couldn't get anywhere on news sites during the 9/11 attacks on the WTC; even Google was horrendously slow. Non news sites all started relaying the news so that people could get hold of information."
Call me old fashioned by I just listened to the radio and watched TV. Worked for me. So much for the internet being useful in a crisis situation.
>And I want you to think for a minute about how many networks you know about where it's just two machines >connected to each other with no connection at all to the outside world?
Umm , my network at home. A friend of mines. A small company I used to work at that had 4 machines set up in a house and no net connection.
>ou're taking a stupid risk in using a unsecured communications protocol
No I'm not , because its on a friggin wired link INSIDE MY HOUSE!
>The thing is, there is always a chance of someone showing up, and you're a fool if you won't take a >simple precaution that would cost nothing, just because you think you're perfectly safe.
Yes , obviously theres a small risk a hacker will climb in through a window , install a sniffing device (ignoring the actual machines he could steal or compromise with all the information on them already) and wirelessly transmit data to his blacked out van outside where he's got lots of special CIA knock-off H4ack3Z kit full of super 733t listening devices.
Meanwhile, back on planet earth...
"That's like saying, "If you have a million dollars in the bank it should be stored in a safe, but if you have ten thousand dollars in your house, it's okay to put it in your sock drawer." Just because the stakes are lower at home doesn't mean you can't have serious issues."
Thats a crap analogy. A valid one would be comparing storing your money in a safe in a bank in a city , or just leaving it in a box on a deserted desert island with only you there and no chance of anyone else showing up.
"Worst of all, you're building work habits that revolve around insecure protocols. When you telnet to a machine, you're sending your login information over an unencrypted connection, and this should never happen. It's just foolish."
NO it isn't. Only a fool wastes time using resources he doesn't need. Please tell me , if someone is using a completely seperate wired LAN with no connection to the internet and only 1 or 2 people using it , how *exactly* would a hacker gain access to sniff packets? Would he break into the building and hide under a table with his kit?
You're an idiot.