Because thats how people work. Will you give up commuting to work/college to give someone else some more space? Doesn't matter if its a car on the road or your body on a bus/train, same thing.
There's a difference between not being able to exactly predict the future and being willfully purblind in a moronic effort to get back at someone after 9/11 regardless of whether they were responsible. George W Bush was an arrogant fool and a liar.
No , but theres a cutoff point of low speed where traffic really does start backing up. Obviously its dependent on the road layout and traffic density but I think its fair to say that driving at 20mph on a clear road is not a way to traffic harmony.
Something hasn't been invented until someone in america re-invents it and pretends its an original and unique idea worthy of a patent at the not-at-all-partisan US Patent Office.
"It's not all pointless. The nutjobs need to be dealt with"
Sorry, but the 2nd Iraq "war" was utterly pointless. It cost lives and money for what - to remove one psychopath under bogus pretenses who at least held the region together, and allow him to be replaced with 10s of thousands of psychopaths who have created anarchy in the whole region and europe. Way to go USA!
...when they finally go big time, given that the white lines currently are used to guide them on multi lane roads.
It seems similar to what i believe they did in the netherlands where they removed any distinction between the road and the pedestrian areas which apparently slowed down traffic. However what ALL these schemes forget is that 99% of people are not driving for the fun of it - they're doing it for a reason and the more you slow them down the slower society will run at the end of the day. So what you say? Well you won't be saying that if your doctor is 30 mins late because of traffic calming or the police/amulance/fire took longer to reach a call despite the blue lights because of the backed up traffic they had to squeeze through.
Seems to me most of the people people of the "well you just do this" persuation have never even put together an Ikea chair, never mind a building. They don't seem to have a clue of the effort involved. The ONLY way it could be done is to send equipment, fuel, food & water there via autonomous lander for years prior to any humans landing possibly with (as yet not technically possible) some sort of building robots that can construct shelters and then hope the stuff is still ok when the humans eventually get there.
"Sweden is just a front for law enforcement in the USA."
Hey yankee, when you've actually travelled more than 10 miles from where you were born and have a clue about life outside your tin foil lined basement and hick town, then maybe get back to us with some slightly less ignorant opinions.
"salaries of people in completely different classes of society is not very useful."
So someone is in a different class of society just because of their paycheque? Presumable when (not if) she's fired she'll be back down the class ladder when her salary is zero?
Bitter?? ITYM laughing at a bunch of skirt wearing professional whingers north of the border who blame everyone except themselves for their non existent economy.
"What we are not is a Sovereign State, though this is may well to change in the near future."
Your glorious independent future where you get fat on the billions in north sea oil revenue, oh , hold on, that'll be gone in 20 years. The billions in ship building! Oh, thats almost gone already.
Oh I know - whisky and hand outs from the EU. Which will be fitting given how many scots are on hand outs from the state.
Scotland hasn't been a country since 1707. Its a region of the UK. The fact that a lot of scots want to believe its still a country doesn't change the reality of the situation.
"Boy racer eh, the fact is you don't care about mowing people down because you want the pleasure of being able drive fast. If you want to speed, hit a race track, there's no reason why side streets should be more than 20mph, only rat-runners would object to 20mph zones."
Got anything better than Ad Hominem? No, didn't think so. Go back to polishing your halo.
"go racing around the back roads at 30mph at 2am?"
30 mph is slow, its not "racing". Perhaps when you're old enough to drive you'll understand sonny.
People like would be the first to whine if there was no ambulance crew to collect you after you'd fallen off your pedal bike because they got stuck in slow traffic getting to work.
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"I guess it's safe to say that it wasn't going to get any better."
Probably not. But now its a damn site worse.
"Why only consider the person concerned? "
Because thats how people work. Will you give up commuting to work/college to give someone else some more space? Doesn't matter if its a car on the road or your body on a bus/train, same thing.
There's a difference between not being able to exactly predict the future and being willfully purblind in a moronic effort to get back at someone after 9/11 regardless of whether they were responsible. George W Bush was an arrogant fool and a liar.
"False causation. "
In your mind maybe. But a large proportion of the ISIS fighters come from groups that formed in Iraq in the chaos there.
No , but theres a cutoff point of low speed where traffic really does start backing up. Obviously its dependent on the road layout and traffic density but I think its fair to say that driving at 20mph on a clear road is not a way to traffic harmony.
Something hasn't been invented until someone in america re-invents it and pretends its an original and unique idea worthy of a patent at the not-at-all-partisan US Patent Office.
"It's not all pointless. The nutjobs need to be dealt with"
Sorry, but the 2nd Iraq "war" was utterly pointless. It cost lives and money for what - to remove one psychopath under bogus pretenses who at least held the region together, and allow him to be replaced with 10s of thousands of psychopaths who have created anarchy in the whole region and europe. Way to go USA!
"Plenty of driving has a net-negative effect on society,"
A miniscule proportion of it. The vast majority of it is essential - at least for the person concerned.
" so by your economic argument we should be slowing down and reducing traffic even more."
Err no. That would be your argument, not mine pal.
...when they finally go big time, given that the white lines currently are used to guide them on multi lane roads.
It seems similar to what i believe they did in the netherlands where they removed any distinction between the road and the pedestrian areas which apparently slowed down traffic. However what ALL these schemes forget is that 99% of people are not driving for the fun of it - they're doing it for a reason and the more you slow them down the slower society will run at the end of the day. So what you say? Well you won't be saying that if your doctor is 30 mins late because of traffic calming or the police/amulance/fire took longer to reach a call despite the blue lights because of the backed up traffic they had to squeeze through.
How many times have we heard this over the years. To be truly hack proof it'll have to be a quantum system. Is it? Doesn't look like it.
"We can make airtight concrete domes in a day or two here"
How to you plan on using concrete on Mars when the water would explosively boil away in the low pressure atmosphere?
Idiot.
Seems to me most of the people people of the "well you just do this" persuation have never even put together an Ikea chair, never mind a building. They don't seem to have a clue of the effort involved. The ONLY way it could be done is to send equipment, fuel, food & water there via autonomous lander for years prior to any humans landing possibly with (as yet not technically possible) some sort of building robots that can construct shelters and then hope the stuff is still ok when the humans eventually get there.
Ah yes, The Guardian, that not at all anti US socialist propaganda sheet.
"Sweden is just a front for law enforcement in the USA."
Hey yankee, when you've actually travelled more than 10 miles from where you were born and have a clue about life outside your tin foil lined basement and hick town, then maybe get back to us with some slightly less ignorant opinions.
"salaries of people in completely different classes of society is not very useful."
So someone is in a different class of society just because of their paycheque? Presumable when (not if) she's fired she'll be back down the class ladder when her salary is zero?
Bitter?? ITYM laughing at a bunch of skirt wearing professional whingers north of the border who blame everyone except themselves for their non existent economy.
... she'd fire herself.
"What we are not is a Sovereign State, though this is may well to change in the near future."
Your glorious independent future where you get fat on the billions in north sea oil revenue, oh , hold on, that'll be gone in 20 years. The billions in ship building! Oh, thats almost gone already.
Oh I know - whisky and hand outs from the EU. Which will be fitting given how many scots are on hand outs from the state.
"Scotland is a country"
Scotland hasn't been a country since 1707. Its a region of the UK. The fact that a lot of scots want to believe its still a country doesn't change the reality of the situation.
Been talking to yourself?
"Boy racer eh, the fact is you don't care about mowing people down because you want the pleasure of being able drive fast. If you want to speed, hit a race track, there's no reason why side streets should be more than 20mph, only rat-runners would object to 20mph zones."
Got anything better than Ad Hominem? No, didn't think so. Go back to polishing your halo.
"go racing around the back roads at 30mph at 2am?"
30 mph is slow, its not "racing". Perhaps when you're old enough to drive you'll understand sonny.
Oh wosdamatter diddums, can't think of a riposte so try for a deflection? Bless.
"Many roads in London are being limited to 20mph|"
Only by car hating left wing councils.
"a lot of the time the traffic wasn't going faster than that anyway."
Not in the day maybe. Try 2am instead then tell me 20mph is a sensible limit.
People like would be the first to whine if there was no ambulance crew to collect you after you'd fallen off your pedal bike because they got stuck in slow traffic getting to work.
"There is no necessity for you to drive fast around residential areas,"
Define "fast"? I don't consider 35 fast, certainly not 25. And some suburbs go on for miles.