whereas books arn't (if you're under 25). And if you live in the fantasyland that a lot of these dot.com CEOs do and believe that skinny jeaned hipsters with disposable cash will be your core market in the future (they won't , they'll have moved on to the next must have male handbag substitute long before) then you'll go for the flash products every time at the expense of your the business that actually makes you money now.
I updated to 24 only 10 mins ago... no wait, its updating itself again to 25... oh , no thats got some security issue , now its on 26... I'll get back to you...
Not where I come from it isn't. If someone puts it on their CV we test them on their C knowledge, not just C++.
"And attempting to write in the common syntactical subset of C and C++ makes as much sense as doing it for C and Perl."
Don't be a total fucking ass. Sometimes you need flexibility about where your code can be compiled and a common subset gives you that. Anyway , its a pretty damn large subset, virtually all of C.
"But in any event modern C and C++ have diverged drastically"
If by modern C you mean C99 and beyond ITYF almost no one uses it outside of academia and a few specialist areas. Almost invariable C90 or ANSI C is the global standard which plays nicely with C++.
"When a resume crosses my desk with "C/C++" on it, I know exactly where to put it---in the dumpster."
Then you're a moron who'll miss out on hiring a lot of good staff. However I must admit that if I ever came across your CV then it would probably head for the dumpster pretty quick.
"was online 20 years ago. It wasn't flashy, you had to use a 28.8 kbps modem, but phone numbers were one of the first things online. This is not a new thing."
"Landing a space ship can be done using analogue electronics as a control system in the 60s"
I don't remember any system in the 60s where a skycrane had to hover in place, lower a lander down, release it then fly off. Or navigate using image recognition. If you know otherwise fill me in.
"more intensive than reformatting text?"
Oh please. Reformatting text algorithms were running on 8 bit home computers in the 70s!
Phonebooks were generally only easily available in the area you lived in and not accessable by Vlad in Minsk who wants to collect as much data as he can on you to impersonate you to a bank. Not only that , but once data is on a computer a lot of things can be automated. When its in barely readable type in a large book its a bit more effort.
An old Power PC can fly a spaceship to mars, execute a difficult landing and now semi autonomously drive a robot across the surface of a planet 30 million miles away , yet its not up to the job of writing documents using the latest word processors. Whats wrong with this picture?
Tony Blair was just a fawning puppy who'd do anything to get himself on the world stage. The man isn't nearly as smart as his publicity would like us to believe but nonetheless , he still dragged the UK into yet another idiotic american adventure in the middle east for absolutely no reason whatsoever other than his arrogance, hubris and an ego the size of Iraq that needs to constantly be fed.
At least then everyone knew that they were in effect glorified CB radios and could be listened in to by a scanner so don't say anything you wouldn't want anyone else to hear. Now everything thinks because its digital it must be secure. Nope. If its broadcast it can be intercepted and (eventually unless its using serious encryption) decoded. End of.
Everyone on 2 wheels crashes eventually and often its a bit of a mess. I'd sooner put up with worse mpg and being stuck in a jam than have a high risk of paralysis or even death to save 10 mins. You can be the best 2 wheeler in the world but if someone pulls out suddenly in front of you or opens their car door in your path or you don't spot the patch of oil before its too late then it won't make any difference - you're going down.
Sure, you can crash in a car too , but with a ton of steel surrounding you, a seatbelt and airbags its a LOT less serious for a given speed.
What a crock. I live in london , I'm over 6 foot and 210lbs and I've never had any trouble fitting in any car. Unless you're the height of a basket ball player or you're a 400 lb ball of sweaty lard because you can't leave off the donuts then there's no reason you can't either.
"Making a joke about an alledged murderer before the case has come to court or the body of his victim has even come to light yet? That's an extra special level of offense rarely seen these days, not to mention possibly prejudicial against the guy in the jury's mind in the upcoming trial "
WTF are you talking about? So a lame joke is prejudicial and will influence a jury but all the salacious tabloid speculation won't??? Fsck, what kind of planet have people like you just arrived from?
I've sen just as bad taste jokes about dead celebs, shuttle astronauts and so on. Yes they're tasteless , no they're not funny, but since when did having a bad sense of uhmour become an arrestable offense?
Get a sense of perspective and give it a rest with the think of the children routine.
Its just a slightly nauseating sticky syrup that few people outside of canada and the US actually like. Whats the big deal if some of it got stolen? What next - the great cheese heist when some stilton is escorted back home by (gas mark equipped) guards?
I can think of the number of times I've ever had to do anything like this in the 20 years I've been using unix - oh yes, that would be zero. Anything that requires being centrally managed is centrally managed. You wouldn't be so fscking stupid as to have 10K seperate config files on 10K machines. If thats the way windows works then perhaps it needs to drag itself into the late 20th century , never mind 21st.
"Good luck implementing a general-case solution for that problem in Linux,"
The entire unix command line is based around manipulating text amongst other things. Are you seriously suggesting that finding a setting in a text file and updating it without affecting anything else is going to be an issue?
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whereas books arn't (if you're under 25). And if you live in the fantasyland that a lot of these dot.com CEOs do and believe that skinny jeaned hipsters with disposable cash will be your core market in the future (they won't , they'll have moved on to the next must have male handbag substitute long before) then you'll go for the flash products every time at the expense of your the business that actually makes you money now.
"The Linux kernel uses a lot of C99 stuff."
Does it? Feel free to give some examples.
No , everyone else uses C++. Even the linux kernel doesn't bother with C99.
I updated to 24 only 10 mins ago ... no wait, its updating itself again to 25 ... oh , no thats got some security issue , now its on 26 ... I'll get back to you...
No , not really. In the UK phone numbers were not available online in the 90s.
""C/C++" is frowned upon."
Not where I come from it isn't. If someone puts it on their CV we test them on their C knowledge, not just C++.
"And attempting to write in the common syntactical subset of C and C++ makes as much sense as doing it for C and Perl."
Don't be a total fucking ass. Sometimes you need flexibility about where your code can be compiled and a common subset gives you that. Anyway , its a pretty damn large subset, virtually all of C.
"But in any event modern C and C++ have diverged drastically"
If by modern C you mean C99 and beyond ITYF almost no one uses it outside of academia and a few specialist areas. Almost invariable C90 or ANSI C is the global standard which plays nicely with C++.
"When a resume crosses my desk with "C/C++" on it, I know exactly where to put it---in the dumpster."
Then you're a moron who'll miss out on hiring a lot of good staff. However I must admit that if I ever came across your CV then it would probably head for the dumpster pretty quick.
"was online 20 years ago. It wasn't flashy, you had to use a 28.8 kbps modem, but phone numbers were one of the first things online. This is not a new thing."
Not where I live they weren't.
Oh wait, no it doesn't. Plus you have to actively search for people rather than just skimming off data while following links between user pages.
"Landing a space ship can be done using analogue electronics as a control system in the 60s"
I don't remember any system in the 60s where a skycrane had to hover in place, lower a lander down, release it then fly off. Or navigate using image recognition. If you know otherwise fill me in.
"more intensive than reformatting text?"
Oh please. Reformatting text algorithms were running on 8 bit home computers in the 70s!
Phonebooks were generally only easily available in the area you lived in and not accessable by Vlad in Minsk who wants to collect as much data as he can on you to impersonate you to a bank. Not only that , but once data is on a computer a lot of things can be automated. When its in barely readable type in a large book its a bit more effort.
I would imagine that landing a spaceship takes a lot more CPU than reformatting some text and drawing a blinking cursor.
An old Power PC can fly a spaceship to mars, execute a difficult landing and now semi autonomously drive a robot across the surface of a planet 30 million miles away , yet its not up to the job of writing documents using the latest word processors. Whats wrong with this picture?
Didn't they used to do Linux distros back in the day?
Yes , I know, off topic , but just asking...
Tony Blair was just a fawning puppy who'd do anything to get himself on the world stage. The man isn't nearly as smart as his publicity would like us to believe but nonetheless , he still dragged the UK into yet another idiotic american adventure in the middle east for absolutely no reason whatsoever other than his arrogance, hubris and an ego the size of Iraq that needs to constantly be fed.
At least then everyone knew that they were in effect glorified CB radios and could be listened in to by a scanner so don't say anything you wouldn't want anyone else to hear. Now everything thinks because its digital it must be secure. Nope. If its broadcast it can be intercepted and (eventually unless its using serious encryption) decoded. End of.
Actually I'm in my 40s but even my mother in here 70s can get in and out of a mini.
Everyone on 2 wheels crashes eventually and often its a bit of a mess. I'd sooner put up with worse mpg and being stuck in a jam than have a high risk of paralysis or even death to save 10 mins. You can be the best 2 wheeler in the world but if someone pulls out suddenly in front of you or opens their car door in your path or you don't spot the patch of oil before its too late then it won't make any difference - you're going down.
Sure, you can crash in a car too , but with a ton of steel surrounding you, a seatbelt and airbags its a LOT less serious for a given speed.
What a crock. I live in london , I'm over 6 foot and 210lbs and I've never had any trouble fitting in any car. Unless you're the height of a basket ball player or you're a 400 lb ball of sweaty lard because you can't leave off the donuts then there's no reason you can't either.
"Making a joke about an alledged murderer before the case has come to court or the body of his victim has even come to light yet? That's an extra special level of offense rarely seen these days, not to mention possibly prejudicial against the guy in the jury's mind in the upcoming trial "
WTF are you talking about? So a lame joke is prejudicial and will influence a jury but all the salacious tabloid speculation won't??? Fsck, what kind of planet have people like you just arrived from?
I've sen just as bad taste jokes about dead celebs, shuttle astronauts and so on. Yes they're tasteless , no they're not funny, but since when did having a bad sense of uhmour become an arrestable offense?
Get a sense of perspective and give it a rest with the think of the children routine.
Its just a slightly nauseating sticky syrup that few people outside of canada and the US actually like. Whats the big deal if some of it got stolen? What next - the great cheese heist when some stilton is escorted back home by (gas mark equipped) guards?
I can think of the number of times I've ever had to do anything like this in the 20 years I've been using unix - oh yes, that would be zero. Anything that requires being centrally managed is centrally managed. You wouldn't be so fscking stupid as to have 10K seperate config files on 10K machines. If thats the way windows works then perhaps it needs to drag itself into the late 20th century , never mind 21st.
"Good luck implementing a general-case solution for that problem in Linux,"
The entire unix command line is based around manipulating text amongst other things. Are you seriously suggesting that finding a setting in a text file and updating it without affecting anything else is going to be an issue?
Stop drinking the MS koolaid.
Nice - except they're not installed by default.
And feel free to explain how I'd remotely install software using the command line setup, or modify the registry, or format a disk or manage services.
Knock yourself out...
"and can be used to completley administer a machine "
No it can't. Try doing any process/service control with it, or disk formatting or installation to name but a few.