So what does your message say? "You can't possibly understand the pain of being a farmer!" or some other content-free statement.
As to your suggestion I try farming some time, let me just say that there are ALREADY TOO MANY people TRYING to make a living farming - why would I be stupid enough to create a business that has no hope of succeding without government subsidy?
Why dont farmers who are being paid not to grow crops just get in to some other business? There are two primary reasons. 1) why work when i can get paid to do nothing? (great reason to get rid of the subsidies in the first place) and 2) My 'quality of life/lifestyle' will change - my family have always been farmers! (tough - the world changes and you need to too)
I hear complaints like "The farm has been in our family for generations and now because we can't compete with the 'big' industrial farms, we are in danger of loosing our way of life and our livelyhood!" To which I reply "Great - get out of farming, go get an education and do something ELSE. Tell your kids to get an education and do something else." I don't do what my fater did for a livng and it doesn't hurt me or him a bit. If big 'mechanized' farms are driving the little guy out of business then the little guy should go into business doing something else.
The reason we have all these subsidies is because there are too damn many farmers - if we stop paying them to do NOTHING with their land then perhaps they'd go do somehting else and actually contribute to society.
What this really means is that we might be able to finally stop paying large groups of farmers to sit on their asses doing nothing -- PAY people to NOT grow a crop? guarantee minimum prices for farmers who grow too much of some crop? Yeah thats where I want my tax dollars going.
With your version, if the program is not run as root, root has a good chance of 'kill -STOP' ing them all and then 'kill -9' ing them. Since the pid list is fairly static it is somewhat easy to get a ps listing and then run kill on the pids.
With my version, not only do you get constantly changing pids but you also get the bennefit of having more forks going on continuosuly, more memory exercised, etc. Much more fun.
I'm not annoyed by that at all -- I'm annoyed by peopel who think that BSD licensed software is inherently bad like the poster I was responding to did.
My point was that BSD licensed software is GOOD and that it has even bennefitted the GPL'd OS of his choice.
Your statement is a classic straw-man argument - change my statement into something you can argue against, since you can't argue against my _real_ statement. Or, I admit that it is possible to read my statement in the way you aparently did, though I did not intend to come across like that, if that is what you got out of it.
Actually, our company pays full time wages for at least two FreeBSD developers that I can think of, who's work goes straight to the project. Our products however we dont give away - they are a competetive advantage that we dont want to give up.
The person I originally responded to was claiming that the BSD licensed software frightened away commercial interested MORE than GPL'd software and my posting was to refute that false idea.
Just because YOU like the GPL and you like working on GPL'd products doesn't mean that that is the only valid way to do development.
Our business model works for us, and the FreeBSD community bennefits from our involvment. It really is a win-win situation for both FreeBSD and us.
If I were to release source code of any of my personal software projects, I'd do it under a BSD-style license. Software doesn't have to be business-related or business-useful, but for businesses using various types of 'free' software, BSD is certainly more attractive.
Oh, and you don't have to work on FreeBSD and do 'without-cost' development for corporations - my company PAYS me to develop BSD software. Just because you can't find paying work doesn't mean that the rest of us don't like having jobs.
Don't even get me started about all the BSD work that has found it's way into linux - the BSD license has made this possible, and easy.
I did say "Generally" didn't I? If we did want do shrink-wrap our software, we couldn't without doing what both you and I said.
You seem to be implying that 'including our source code with the product' is somehow not 'giving away our work'. Yes, there is more to what we offer than the binaries, including all the services surrounding the products - ordering, billing, support etc, but a significant expense for us _is_ the software development. Are you seriously saying that giving away our source code is not giving away our work? Or, do I just misunderstand what you are saying?
We have considered a 'linux port' of our software which would essentially be a reimplementation from scratch of our products because a significant portion of our products are largely kernel modifications. We might some day do this - but one of the things that has made doing so seem less worthwhile is the GPL.
I work for a company that bases many of it's products on FreeBSD -- excellent OS - easy to customize, and we're not constrained by the GPL to give away our work. Generally we dont package up and sell our software, but rather sell services (accounts on our hardware running our software).
The OP was not suggesting that he had 7% variation in two disks that were marketed at the same size. Rather I believe that he was pointing out that even taking into account the stupid marketing of drive manufacturers, there is _still_ variation in size that will potentially mess you up if you have to replace it in a RAID array later.
And if that isn't what he was implying, then he certainly _should_ have been thinking that. Yes, it's annoying to have disks measured in 'false' units of measure, but since the manufacturers universally measure this way, any two 80GB disks will be much closer in size to each other than the 7% you are suggesting we should be worried about.
You suggest that replacing a 'true' 80GB disk would be difficult. I suggest that you wil not find a 'true' 80G disk in existence right now -- perhaps in the future you would if this lawsuit succedes, but then the disks you bought in the future would be bigger than the ones you get now, so there would be no problem.
This is why you should always make your logical raid volumes 1% smaller (approximately) than the max disk size. So that when you replace the disk and get short-changed by the manufacturer, you can still get by.
Yes this is easier with software-based RAID, but can be done with better hardware raid controllers.
I disagree with you. I'm writing this reply from a laptop running FreeBSD.
For MY use, for my job, this is the ideal desktop.
I'm not the typical office-computer user, and I admit that this isn't the optimal setup for many people. But, for me, for my job, this is a great platform.
(I do FreeBSD software development for a living, along with light project management, and a lot of web-surfing.)
She told him he'd be 'the one' in another life - so right at that moment, he wasn't the one. He gets shot by smith and 'dies' and 72 seconds (yeah 72 hours is 3 days - christ resurected on the 3rd day...) later comes back to life - and in this NEW life he is 'the one'.
See? No lie. At least if you get all pretentious and analytical you can dream up apologist explanations that leave the oracale telling the truth.
More importantly, why didn't they just use some other big mamal? I mean, come on - cows would probably be much more efficient 'batteries' than people, and they are a lot easier to mentally stimulate -- simulate one big meadow with a lot of grass...
It doesn't matter where they got the rom from, or what they found out with this emulator.
The real point is that to be legal, the machines have to comply with laws relating to them. Aparently, there is no law in the UK that states that customer skill has to be taken in to account at all.
It might be that the company has problems with false advertising, if the pay-out rate isn't met, but that is about it legally.
I would guess that they deliberately show many 'near-win' configurations to increase the probability that a customer will dump some more money in the machine.
In fact, were I programming it, and I had already pre-determined that the player was going to loose, I'd make the player loose in a way that made him feel like playing more - wouldn't you?
I dont know about the original poster's education, but most of the people I work with know that gambling is a great way to loose money. Now, suddenly, the person who wrote the article has come to this same conclusion and he is shocked. _YAWN_.
You actually think that 10 Million would make any difference to the US government? Small governmental agencies probably pay more than that for toilet-paper per year. 10 million is chump-change.
Now, it would be nice if the organization made enough to cover the costs of running itself. I wouldn't have a problem with that.
Incidentally I think the number of works being renewed would be much higher than 10k.
Do you really think future tunnel digging enterprises will used satelite-based location devices - underground and perhaps even underwater, where the radio-waves are unlikley to penetrate?
Because code sizes are much larger on the alpha architecture, boot-floppy support was dropped a while back - at least I think this was the conclusion of the long thread. It is less of an issue than I thought it would be for me as my miata boots just fine off of an ide cdrom drive...
I wont flame you for having a difference of opinion.
I do understand that different people like different things. I can't say I understand your views, but since this disagreement is over something as silly as book preferences, well, who cares.
I liked the first book and got bored/annoyed by the others.
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So what does your message say? "You can't possibly understand the pain of being a farmer!" or some other content-free statement.
As to your suggestion I try farming some time, let me just say that there are ALREADY TOO MANY people TRYING to make a living farming - why would I be stupid enough to create a business that has no hope of succeding without government subsidy?
Why dont farmers who are being paid not to grow crops just get in to some other business? There are two primary reasons. 1) why work when i can get paid to do nothing? (great reason to get rid of the subsidies in the first place) and 2) My 'quality of life/lifestyle' will change - my family have always been farmers! (tough - the world changes and you need to too)
I hear complaints like "The farm has been in our family for generations and now because we can't compete with the 'big' industrial farms, we are in danger of loosing our way of life and our livelyhood!" To which I reply "Great - get out of farming, go get an education and do something ELSE. Tell your kids to get an education and do something else." I don't do what my fater did for a livng and it doesn't hurt me or him a bit. If big 'mechanized' farms are driving the little guy out of business then the little guy should go into business doing something else.
The reason we have all these subsidies is because there are too damn many farmers - if we stop paying them to do NOTHING with their land then perhaps they'd go do somehting else and actually contribute to society.
What this really means is that we might be able to finally stop paying large groups of farmers to sit on their asses doing nothing -- PAY people to NOT grow a crop? guarantee minimum prices for farmers who grow too much of some crop? Yeah thats where I want my tax dollars going.
Change that to
while (!fork());
and you'll have a much more interesting program.
With your version, if the program is not run as root, root has a good chance of 'kill -STOP' ing them all and then 'kill -9' ing them. Since the pid list is fairly static it is somewhat easy to get a ps listing and then run kill on the pids.
With my version, not only do you get constantly changing pids but you also get the bennefit of having more forks going on continuosuly, more memory exercised, etc. Much more fun.
I'm not annoyed by that at all -- I'm annoyed by peopel who think that BSD licensed software is inherently bad like the poster I was responding to did.
My point was that BSD licensed software is GOOD and that it has even bennefitted the GPL'd OS of his choice.
Your statement is a classic straw-man argument - change my statement into something you can argue against, since you can't argue against my _real_ statement. Or, I admit that it is possible to read my statement in the way you aparently did, though I did not intend to come across like that, if that is what you got out of it.
Actually, our company pays full time wages for at least two FreeBSD developers that I can think of, who's work goes straight to the project. Our products however we dont give away - they are a competetive advantage that we dont want to give up.
The person I originally responded to was claiming that the BSD licensed software frightened away commercial interested MORE than GPL'd software and my posting was to refute that false idea.
Just because YOU like the GPL and you like working on GPL'd products doesn't mean that that is the only valid way to do development.
Our business model works for us, and the FreeBSD community bennefits from our involvment. It really is a win-win situation for both FreeBSD and us.
If I were to release source code of any of my personal software projects, I'd do it under a BSD-style license. Software doesn't have to be business-related or business-useful, but for businesses using various types of 'free' software, BSD is certainly more attractive.
Oh, and you don't have to work on FreeBSD and do 'without-cost' development for corporations - my company PAYS me to develop BSD software. Just because you can't find paying work doesn't mean that the rest of us don't like having jobs.
Don't even get me started about all the BSD work that has found it's way into linux - the BSD license has made this possible, and easy.
I did say "Generally" didn't I? If we did want do shrink-wrap our software, we couldn't without doing what both you and I said.
You seem to be implying that 'including our source code with the product' is somehow not 'giving away our work'. Yes, there is more to what we offer than the binaries, including all the services surrounding the products - ordering, billing, support etc, but a significant expense for us _is_ the software development. Are you seriously saying that giving away our source code is not giving away our work? Or, do I just misunderstand what you are saying?
We have considered a 'linux port' of our software which would essentially be a reimplementation from scratch of our products because a significant portion of our products are largely kernel modifications. We might some day do this - but one of the things that has made doing so seem less worthwhile is the GPL.
I work for a company that bases many of it's products on FreeBSD -- excellent OS - easy to customize, and we're not constrained by the GPL to give away our work. Generally we dont package up and sell our software, but rather sell services (accounts on our hardware running our software).
GPL: Not Free as in Beer, but Free as in Herpes!
The OP was not suggesting that he had 7% variation in two disks that were marketed at the same size. Rather I believe that he was pointing out that even taking into account the stupid marketing of drive manufacturers, there is _still_ variation in size that will potentially mess you up if you have to replace it in a RAID array later.
And if that isn't what he was implying, then he certainly _should_ have been thinking that. Yes, it's annoying to have disks measured in 'false' units of measure, but since the manufacturers universally measure this way, any two 80GB disks will be much closer in size to each other than the 7% you are suggesting we should be worried about.
You suggest that replacing a 'true' 80GB disk would be difficult. I suggest that you wil not find a 'true' 80G disk in existence right now -- perhaps in the future you would if this lawsuit succedes, but then the disks you bought in the future would be bigger than the ones you get now, so there would be no problem.
This is why you should always make your logical raid volumes 1% smaller (approximately) than the max disk size. So that when you replace the disk and get short-changed by the manufacturer, you can still get by.
Yes this is easier with software-based RAID, but can be done with better hardware raid controllers.
According to the lincense, you can only exchange it with other non-commercial users that have also agreed to be bound by the lincense too.
At least read the license if you're going to suggest pseudo-legal interpretations of it.
I disagree with you. I'm writing this reply from a laptop running FreeBSD.
For MY use, for my job, this is the ideal desktop.
I'm not the typical office-computer user, and I admit that this isn't the optimal setup for many people. But, for me, for my job, this is a great platform.
(I do FreeBSD software development for a living, along with light project management, and a lot of web-surfing.)
She told him he'd be 'the one' in another life - so right at that moment, he wasn't the one. He gets shot by smith and 'dies' and 72 seconds (yeah 72 hours is 3 days - christ resurected on the 3rd day...) later comes back to life - and in this NEW life he is 'the one'.
See? No lie. At least if you get all pretentious and analytical you can dream up apologist explanations that leave the oracale telling the truth.
More importantly, why didn't they just use some other big mamal? I mean, come on - cows would probably be much more efficient 'batteries' than people, and they are a lot easier to mentally stimulate -- simulate one big meadow with a lot of grass...
:)
Oh, and call it the Mootrix
It doesn't matter where they got the rom from, or what they found out with this emulator.
The real point is that to be legal, the machines have to comply with laws relating to them. Aparently, there is no law in the UK that states that customer skill has to be taken in to account at all.
It might be that the company has problems with false advertising, if the pay-out rate isn't met, but that is about it legally.
I would guess that they deliberately show many 'near-win' configurations to increase the probability that a customer will dump some more money in the machine.
In fact, were I programming it, and I had already pre-determined that the player was going to loose, I'd make the player loose in a way that made him feel like playing more - wouldn't you?
I dont know about the original poster's education, but most of the people I work with know that gambling is a great way to loose money. Now, suddenly, the person who wrote the article has come to this same conclusion and he is shocked. _YAWN_.
You actually think that 10 Million would make any difference to the US government? Small governmental agencies probably pay more than that for toilet-paper per year. 10 million is chump-change.
Now, it would be nice if the organization made enough to cover the costs of running itself. I wouldn't have a problem with that.
Incidentally I think the number of works being renewed would be much higher than 10k.
Your more verbose explanation makes quite a bit more sense. Thanks.
Uh, that is the sound of the gears in your brain being stripped.
Phone books are printed on recycled paper...
Do you really think future tunnel digging enterprises will used satelite-based location devices - underground and perhaps even underwater, where the radio-waves are unlikley to penetrate?
Because code sizes are much larger on the alpha architecture, boot-floppy support was dropped a while back - at least I think this was the conclusion of the long thread. It is less of an issue than I thought it would be for me as my miata boots just fine off of an ide cdrom drive...
Actually, I object to your poor grammer. Learn how to use an apostrophe properly. Of course you might have been referring to same-sex polygamy.
If your parents want you to install it and you are a legal adult, stop freeloading off your parents and get your own damn apartment and isp.
If they pay for the internet access, and pay for house you are using it in, they can say how it is used, you slacker.
"x-ray goggles" based on REAL SCIENCE!!!!!
....
See what is going on at your neighbors house!
Protect yourself from armed muggers!
Matrix inversion comes to mind -- it is very difficult to parallelize.
s /s dsc.pdf
I found a nice little read about how to decide if any particular problem you are looking at is easily parallelizable.
It is in pdf (looks like a power point presentation).
http://cs.oregonstate.edu/~pancake/presentation
I liked the first book and got bored/annoyed by the others.
I have almost stopped watching Sci Fi due to the constant barrage of bad horror flicks.