Capitalism most certainly does have to do with Lords. It didn't spring out of a vacuum. It came from the conflict between feudal lords and kings. And no, the Fed doesn't own the businesses. The fed is giving money from the general population to the businesses, it isn't taking ownership.
Capitalism is about owning the mechanisms of production. It's when you extend private property beyond personal possessions into the realm of land, factories, mines, farms, etc, and you exercise control over those resources without regard for the interests of your fellow man. Just like the feudal lords used to do, except with more freedom of mobility.
try opening your eyes instead of stupifying yourself listening to cnn, fox, nbc etc
china is more capitalist than america
america is increasingly socialist but the public has been brainwashed into thinking that government control is capitalism and free markets aren't (they are the new enemy). is there any wonder why a lot of americans (occupy wall street as example) hate capitalism? the don't; they hate how corporations are allowed to bribe goverment officials to get huge bailouts, but thats not capitalism! thats the antithesis of capitalism; its more socialist than capitalist if government officials didn't have the power to sell and the government just got out of the way and let the free market work (let big banks that make stupid risky investments pay for them instead of bailing them out) you would have capitalism, and capitalism does work. socialism involving big government has been shown to not work very well (for average citizens anyway).
If America were socialist, the government would own those corporations. The fact that they are privately owned is a major factor in Capitalism. Capitalism is about individuals owning factories and mines, and having a default right to do anything with those factories and mines that isn't explicitly outlawed.
Consider a bunch of feudal lords, sitting around being well off with serfs to serve and men at arms to protect. Life's pretty good, except you can't go on vacation, and you can't move to a nicer part of the world when you get bored. If you do, some other lord(s) will come along and seize your estate while you're not paying attention.
So, you make an arrangement with the other feudal lords that recognizes each others right to be lords of their domain, you centralize the men at arms and put them in the service of protecting this arrangement, and you disenfranchise the serfs further by setting them "free", absolving yourselves of the responsibility to provide for the serfs while leaving them without the resources they need to be independently productive.
That's a fairly good description of Capitalism. The "freedom" of Capitalism is about freeing the Lords to enjoy life, not about freeing everyone.
Well, as far as stealing Wi-Fi? Nah... as far as that problem is concerned, I'd leave a throttled open access point, label it "guest" and call it a day.
The Evil Twin... that could be a lot more sinister. If he's engaging in identity theft against your family, then yeah, but break his fingers, not his legs. Still use social engineering on him first and learn, though.
I was thinking a similar thought. I never wear gloves. Gloves suck. I knew of a person that wondered why it burned a while every time they put their gloves on, turns out they contaminated the inside and were particularly sensitive to the stuff. Habaneros I handle with care and don't devein or remove seeds and I don't leave with stinging fingers. At most I'll hold the pepper down with a fork and cut through the tines if i want a really fine/messy cut.
The instructions don't tell you to take off the gloves either. Hope the person removes them before peeing or picking their nose. At some point you have to assume a level of knowledge from the reader, so either place an about page in the front of the book about every ingredient and warnings about it so that people can look up unfamiliar ingredients or leave that to the reader to look up. For the most part people will just want to reference the recipes in a cookbook and will not have to re-learn how to chop hot peppers every single time they make salsa. For that there should be a separate basic kitchen skills book. Heck I've seen some good cooks with bad habits that could use that (myself included).
The original point might be good, but I think they could have found a better example.
On the other hand, picking your nose after handling Habaneros is a painfully effective way to clear the sinuses...
I thought the place was a shithole, myself. I only stayed to break up the 20+ hr flight across the Pacific. The jarring clash between crass American culture and the beautiful landscape was painful to be around, frankly.
"Developers will be able to ship a single application binary which itself can respond to the different form factors," Shuttleworth said. "You will be able to write a single application binary that can run on a phone, or a tablet, a PC, or a TV, and it will declare to the system which of those form factors it can support and we will present the appropriate interface for that application on each of those form factors."
The reason people are skeptical about that, is that Ubuntu's default packaging suggests that Canonical thinks Unity might be "an appropriate interface" for the desktop.
Perhaps a good test of Canonical's brand new magic tech, will be to see if they can ship a certain application which does what they describe. The application I have in mind is.. oh.. let's say.. application launcher. Can a version of, or an alternative to, Unity be made, which uses this new toolkit?
And not suck?:-)
Shuttleworth, please don't say that one kind of application is a special case, somehow outside the scope of your toolkit. We're just talking about an interface where users somehow pick something out of a potentially long list of things. Lots of apps are variations of that theme, not just program launchers.
What does that have to do with applications?
If I design a tool to, say, track what you eat and how much exercise you do and give you information, and I'm able to design a user interface for my application that is appropriate for desktop, tablet and phone, and the right one shows up at the right time, the issue of how appropriate Unity is as a desktop application launcher is totally irrelevant.
Don't get me wrong... I miss Gnome2, but these are two different issues.
When I sit down at my PC, I want an interface that is designed for use on a PC, using a mouse and keyboard, and a large display.
When I pick up my phone or tablet, I want an interface that is designed for use on a phone or tablet, using finger swipes, taps, and gestures, and a small display.
THESE ARE TWO COMPLETELY FUCKING DIFFERENT THINGS.
Stop trying to make them the same.
Read page two, doofus:
"Developers will be able to ship a single application binary which itself can respond to the different form factors," Shuttleworth said. "You will be able to write a single application binary that can run on a phone, or a tablet, a PC, or a TV, and it will declare to the system which of those form factors it can support and we will present the appropriate interface for that application on each of those form factors."
Without this, I can't see much adoption. Who wants to buy a tablet if it has no apps? Linux has plenty, sure, but are they optimized for a tablet interface? Given that it's already a linux kernel, wouldn't it be possible to add the dalvik VM and run android apps? So far as I undrestand, this was the case with the previous Nexus 7 iteration of Ubuntu. Why was this changed? If they release this for Nexus 7, i'll probably run it off a USB stick if possible, but I won't flash it over android unless there is some compatibility there. Simply put, I've purchased Android apps, and I don't want to lose those.
Debian had a boatload of apps available via apt-get before Ubuntu existed. It will run all of them. And all the apps that were added to the Ubuntu ecosystem since then should also run.
Being that all the "legacy" apps are open source, they should be relatively easily ported across architectures, as opposed to Win8 which won't run legacy code on ARM.
Ubuntu is far better poised than you give them credit for
No, I believe that rule by popular opinion is the definition of a democracy, and anyone who claims they believe we should govern ourselves democratically but don't believe in the rule of popular opinion is talking out of both corners of their mouth.
Personally, I believe in an absolute democracy, but that the right to vote should go hand in hand with civil service... not unlike what Heinlein proposed in Starship Troopers (the novel, not the movie), except that civil service should be more well rounded, and not simply a matter of being a member of the warrior class.
I believe you should have to get your hands dirty in each sector of civil life, so even if you're dealing with things you're not strong at, you are at least well enough informed to tell the difference between someone who knows better than you do and someone who is taking you for a ride. I am anti-specialist. No one should be able to vote if they do not participate, but no one who wishes to participate should be barred from doing so, to the best of their capacities.
This would let the young able bodied reclaim control of society from the elderly, and prevent rich DINKs from using their dominance in both demographics and economics to run us into the ground as they attempt to cling to the lifestyle they were "promised". This, I feel, is in the best interests of humanity.
That would be the 9 people raping the 10th person.
See, the thing is, there is an absolute sovereign here. Each individual is absolute sovereign of their own body. You don't get to democratically decide what I do with my body because you have no legitimate claim to it.
Oh right. So, there aren't actually any people you can point at. You're just talking out of your ass, about things that aren't real.
Conspiracies are NOT secret by definition. Conspiracies are a group who meet behind closed doors to act in their own self interest without regard for the welfare of people outside their group.
EVERY corporation is a conspiracy. Conspiracy is the natural organizational structure of our civilization.
I do agree with you in almost everything you wrote, but what is questionable is if any democracy as they are implemented in the real world is really the rule of the majority. It is more like the apathy of the majority and the rule of money.
Libya came pretty close. That's why we bombed them.
That's what we call Tyranny of the Majority. It might be legal, but it's never acceptable. It's nothing more than sheer thuggery.
If there is no absolute sovereign, there is no tyranny. The word comes from antiquity, it is derived from the greek word Tyrannos, and it refers specifically to consolidation of power into the hands of a single individual who rules capriciously and without codified laws. "Tyranny of the Majority" is a nonsense phrase used by people who do not wish to be bound by democracy, but to bind it so it doesn't interfere with their selfish choices.
Also, thuggery refers to violence outside the bounds of law. When the people democratically create a law, and only then use violence after people have been made aware of the law, that is the diametric opposite of thuggery.
You believe there are conditions where the minority should rule over the majority? Then you don't believe in democracy. End of story.
Just another idiotic moral panic. Where's the actual evidence of harm to either porn consumers or producers?
In a democratic nation, evidence of harm is not necessary. "Because we don't fucking like it, we're the majority, and if you don't stop we'll thump you, that's why" is a perfectly acceptable reason.
A form of balance of power can also mean different groups are watching over each other, regardless of motivation. If they can balance each other, that means no groups gain too much power
Agile is what happens when you take the same lazy, short sighted approach that leads to a clusterfuck and formalize it. It gives reassurances to idiots, but it doesn't lead to success.
We use Agile here for the bigger projects, and there have been so many times that I've thought of moving on purely because of it, it's not even funny. I feel like it makes me stupider each day.
Oh, and fuck you and your "spineless moron" talk. When I'm not working for money, I'm working for free, because I'm an industrious person by nature who takes responsibility for the world he lives in, and there's a lot of shit that needs to be done. Work should be a fierce joy. If it isn't, that's a sign that there's a flaw in your character.
When was the last time someone had an all night coding session for their job?
Been a few years since I did an all night coding session for work... but I did over 160 hours in a two week timeframe back in December to make a deadline.
One of the major reasons the US is rich is because the rest of the world has been using US dollars they receive to buy and sell oil instead of using them to buy US goods and services. It's like if I write a cheque to pay my landlord, who doesn't cash it, but uses it to pay his mortgage, and the bank uses it to pay their employees, and so on, without anyone ever cashing it. The wealth of the US comes at the rest of the worlds expense, for the most part, and they stablize and extend the system with their war machine.
With China now selling oil and natural gas in renminbi and Russia giving China unfettered access to their natural resources, there are going to be some pretty dramatic changes in store for the American people, and most of them don't appear to even have a clue.
They're going to need immigrants desperately, though, because they have a demographic imbalance that's going to leave them with too few young people to maintain things and care for all the retiring boomers.
If they were to close their doors and try to go it on their own, they would be so completely fucked that it's laughable to think about.
And the standard of living of the rest of the world would go up dramatically.
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Capitalism most certainly does have to do with Lords. It didn't spring out of a vacuum. It came from the conflict between feudal lords and kings. And no, the Fed doesn't own the businesses. The fed is giving money from the general population to the businesses, it isn't taking ownership.
Capitalism is about owning the mechanisms of production. It's when you extend private property beyond personal possessions into the realm of land, factories, mines, farms, etc, and you exercise control over those resources without regard for the interests of your fellow man. Just like the feudal lords used to do, except with more freedom of mobility.
try opening your eyes instead of stupifying yourself listening to cnn, fox, nbc etc
china is more capitalist than america
america is increasingly socialist but the public has been brainwashed into thinking that government control is capitalism and free markets aren't (they are the new enemy). is there any wonder why a lot of americans (occupy wall street as example) hate capitalism? the don't; they hate how corporations are allowed to bribe goverment officials to get huge bailouts, but thats not capitalism! thats the antithesis of capitalism; its more socialist than capitalist if government officials didn't have the power to sell and the government just got out of the way and let the free market work (let big banks that make stupid risky investments pay for them instead of bailing them out) you would have capitalism, and capitalism does work. socialism involving big government has been shown to not work very well (for average citizens anyway).
If America were socialist, the government would own those corporations. The fact that they are privately owned is a major factor in Capitalism. Capitalism is about individuals owning factories and mines, and having a default right to do anything with those factories and mines that isn't explicitly outlawed.
Consider a bunch of feudal lords, sitting around being well off with serfs to serve and men at arms to protect. Life's pretty good, except you can't go on vacation, and you can't move to a nicer part of the world when you get bored. If you do, some other lord(s) will come along and seize your estate while you're not paying attention.
So, you make an arrangement with the other feudal lords that recognizes each others right to be lords of their domain, you centralize the men at arms and put them in the service of protecting this arrangement, and you disenfranchise the serfs further by setting them "free", absolving yourselves of the responsibility to provide for the serfs while leaving them without the resources they need to be independently productive.
That's a fairly good description of Capitalism. The "freedom" of Capitalism is about freeing the Lords to enjoy life, not about freeing everyone.
And THEN break his legs.
Right?
Well, as far as stealing Wi-Fi? Nah... as far as that problem is concerned, I'd leave a throttled open access point, label it "guest" and call it a day.
The Evil Twin... that could be a lot more sinister. If he's engaging in identity theft against your family, then yeah, but break his fingers, not his legs. Still use social engineering on him first and learn, though.
If you find him, give him props and buy him a beer and ask him to share how he's doing what he's doing with you. Sounds like some pretty cool shit.
I was thinking a similar thought. I never wear gloves. Gloves suck. I knew of a person that wondered why it burned a while every time they put their gloves on, turns out they contaminated the inside and were particularly sensitive to the stuff. Habaneros I handle with care and don't devein or remove seeds and I don't leave with stinging fingers. At most I'll hold the pepper down with a fork and cut through the tines if i want a really fine/messy cut.
The instructions don't tell you to take off the gloves either. Hope the person removes them before peeing or picking their nose. At some point you have to assume a level of knowledge from the reader, so either place an about page in the front of the book about every ingredient and warnings about it so that people can look up unfamiliar ingredients or leave that to the reader to look up. For the most part people will just want to reference the recipes in a cookbook and will not have to re-learn how to chop hot peppers every single time they make salsa. For that there should be a separate basic kitchen skills book. Heck I've seen some good cooks with bad habits that could use that (myself included).
The original point might be good, but I think they could have found a better example.
On the other hand, picking your nose after handling Habaneros is a painfully effective way to clear the sinuses...
The ability to run Windows apps is a selling feature for Win8 tablets, and not a small one.
Ubuntu could run Windows apps in Wine on ARM, where Win8 does not.
And, it can run every single app they inherited from Debian.
I disagree with your assessment.
I thought the place was a shithole, myself. I only stayed to break up the 20+ hr flight across the Pacific. The jarring clash between crass American culture and the beautiful landscape was painful to be around, frankly.
The reason people are skeptical about that, is that Ubuntu's default packaging suggests that Canonical thinks Unity might be "an appropriate interface" for the desktop.
Perhaps a good test of Canonical's brand new magic tech, will be to see if they can ship a certain application which does what they describe. The application I have in mind is .. oh .. let's say .. application launcher. Can a version of, or an alternative to, Unity be made, which uses this new toolkit?
And not suck? :-)
Shuttleworth, please don't say that one kind of application is a special case, somehow outside the scope of your toolkit. We're just talking about an interface where users somehow pick something out of a potentially long list of things. Lots of apps are variations of that theme, not just program launchers.
What does that have to do with applications?
If I design a tool to, say, track what you eat and how much exercise you do and give you information, and I'm able to design a user interface for my application that is appropriate for desktop, tablet and phone, and the right one shows up at the right time, the issue of how appropriate Unity is as a desktop application launcher is totally irrelevant.
Don't get me wrong... I miss Gnome2, but these are two different issues.
When I sit down at my PC, I want an interface that is designed for use on a PC, using a mouse and keyboard, and a large display.
When I pick up my phone or tablet, I want an interface that is designed for use on a phone or tablet, using finger swipes, taps, and gestures, and a small display.
THESE ARE TWO COMPLETELY FUCKING DIFFERENT THINGS.
Stop trying to make them the same.
Read page two, doofus:
"Developers will be able to ship a single application binary which itself can respond to the different form factors," Shuttleworth said. "You will be able to write a single application binary that can run on a phone, or a tablet, a PC, or a TV, and it will declare to the system which of those form factors it can support and we will present the appropriate interface for that application on each of those form factors."
Without this, I can't see much adoption. Who wants to buy a tablet if it has no apps? Linux has plenty, sure, but are they optimized for a tablet interface? Given that it's already a linux kernel, wouldn't it be possible to add the dalvik VM and run android apps? So far as I undrestand, this was the case with the previous Nexus 7 iteration of Ubuntu. Why was this changed? If they release this for Nexus 7, i'll probably run it off a USB stick if possible, but I won't flash it over android unless there is some compatibility there. Simply put, I've purchased Android apps, and I don't want to lose those.
Debian had a boatload of apps available via apt-get before Ubuntu existed. It will run all of them. And all the apps that were added to the Ubuntu ecosystem since then should also run.
Being that all the "legacy" apps are open source, they should be relatively easily ported across architectures, as opposed to Win8 which won't run legacy code on ARM.
Ubuntu is far better poised than you give them credit for
If you're anti-specialist, you're anti-civilization. Heinlein didn't know what he was talking about.
Then I'm anti-civilization. Did you have a larger point?
The U.S. Constitution was written by a minority, and ratified by a minority (who represented the majority).
The US isn't a democracy.
No, I believe that rule by popular opinion is the definition of a democracy, and anyone who claims they believe we should govern ourselves democratically but don't believe in the rule of popular opinion is talking out of both corners of their mouth.
Personally, I believe in an absolute democracy, but that the right to vote should go hand in hand with civil service... not unlike what Heinlein proposed in Starship Troopers (the novel, not the movie), except that civil service should be more well rounded, and not simply a matter of being a member of the warrior class.
I believe you should have to get your hands dirty in each sector of civil life, so even if you're dealing with things you're not strong at, you are at least well enough informed to tell the difference between someone who knows better than you do and someone who is taking you for a ride. I am anti-specialist. No one should be able to vote if they do not participate, but no one who wishes to participate should be barred from doing so, to the best of their capacities.
This would let the young able bodied reclaim control of society from the elderly, and prevent rich DINKs from using their dominance in both demographics and economics to run us into the ground as they attempt to cling to the lifestyle they were "promised". This, I feel, is in the best interests of humanity.
That would be the 9 people raping the 10th person.
See, the thing is, there is an absolute sovereign here. Each individual is absolute sovereign of their own body. You don't get to democratically decide what I do with my body because you have no legitimate claim to it.
Oh right. So, there aren't actually any people you can point at. You're just talking out of your ass, about things that aren't real.
Conspiracies are NOT secret by definition. Conspiracies are a group who meet behind closed doors to act in their own self interest without regard for the welfare of people outside their group.
EVERY corporation is a conspiracy. Conspiracy is the natural organizational structure of our civilization.
I do agree with you in almost everything you wrote, but what is questionable is if any democracy as they are implemented in the real world is really the rule of the majority. It is more like the apathy of the majority and the rule of money.
Libya came pretty close. That's why we bombed them.
You believe there are conditions where the minority should rule over the majority? Then you don't believe in democracy. End of story.
I guess you're right. After all, 9 out of 10 people enjoy gang rape.
Sure they do. Why don't you go ahead and point them out?
That's what we call Tyranny of the Majority. It might be legal, but it's never acceptable. It's nothing more than sheer thuggery.
If there is no absolute sovereign, there is no tyranny. The word comes from antiquity, it is derived from the greek word Tyrannos, and it refers specifically to consolidation of power into the hands of a single individual who rules capriciously and without codified laws. "Tyranny of the Majority" is a nonsense phrase used by people who do not wish to be bound by democracy, but to bind it so it doesn't interfere with their selfish choices.
Also, thuggery refers to violence outside the bounds of law. When the people democratically create a law, and only then use violence after people have been made aware of the law, that is the diametric opposite of thuggery.
You believe there are conditions where the minority should rule over the majority? Then you don't believe in democracy. End of story.
Just another idiotic moral panic. Where's the actual evidence of harm to either porn consumers or producers?
In a democratic nation, evidence of harm is not necessary. "Because we don't fucking like it, we're the majority, and if you don't stop we'll thump you, that's why" is a perfectly acceptable reason.
The best course he could take for computer programming is a touch typing course. And that's by a huge margin.
A form of balance of power can also mean different groups are watching over each other, regardless of motivation. If they can balance each other, that means no groups gain too much power
Feel free to define things however you want.
Sun Tzu would have approved of that definition.
OpenOffice started as StarOffice. Seems pretty viable.
Agile is what happens when you take the same lazy, short sighted approach that leads to a clusterfuck and formalize it. It gives reassurances to idiots, but it doesn't lead to success.
We use Agile here for the bigger projects, and there have been so many times that I've thought of moving on purely because of it, it's not even funny. I feel like it makes me stupider each day.
Oh, and fuck you and your "spineless moron" talk. When I'm not working for money, I'm working for free, because I'm an industrious person by nature who takes responsibility for the world he lives in, and there's a lot of shit that needs to be done. Work should be a fierce joy. If it isn't, that's a sign that there's a flaw in your character.
When was the last time someone had an all night coding session for their job?
Been a few years since I did an all night coding session for work... but I did over 160 hours in a two week timeframe back in December to make a deadline.
One of the major reasons the US is rich is because the rest of the world has been using US dollars they receive to buy and sell oil instead of using them to buy US goods and services. It's like if I write a cheque to pay my landlord, who doesn't cash it, but uses it to pay his mortgage, and the bank uses it to pay their employees, and so on, without anyone ever cashing it. The wealth of the US comes at the rest of the worlds expense, for the most part, and they stablize and extend the system with their war machine.
With China now selling oil and natural gas in renminbi and Russia giving China unfettered access to their natural resources, there are going to be some pretty dramatic changes in store for the American people, and most of them don't appear to even have a clue.
They're going to need immigrants desperately, though, because they have a demographic imbalance that's going to leave them with too few young people to maintain things and care for all the retiring boomers.
If they were to close their doors and try to go it on their own, they would be so completely fucked that it's laughable to think about.
And the standard of living of the rest of the world would go up dramatically.