Yes, anyone working in a Stock Exchange is a valid military target. So are manufacturing and power generation infrastructure. So are pipelines and oil reserves.
But the WTC, it was also a morally justifiable target. You don't attract billions of protesters around the world to your back room dealings when you're doing the right thing by people. Those people in those planes, they were heros.
I know I've thought about it. They really seem to be a more morally upstanding culture, all in all. Our culture, on the other hand, is due for a collapse. Although, I'm kind of looking forward to that... I'm going to hang lawyers and accountants in trees for fun.
You're forgetting something yourself. When the US was attacked, the attacks were confined to
1) The home of the commander 2) The office of the commander 3) The central offices where the military organize their extensive aggressive operations in foreign nations 4) The central offices where the economists organize the exploitation of the foreign nations that they are dominating
These are all valid military targets, under any circumstances.
When the US last engaged in unprovoked aggressive warfare, that being Iraq, they carpet bombed the nation with radioactive waste.
The US was attacked by courageous freedom fighters. Because they are war criminals and terrorists. Spin it to your hearts content, it's still the truth.
When social power comes from any source other than the peoples trust, it is tyranny. Therefore, power accumulated over other people through legal loopholes and the exploitation of economic leverage is also tyranny. People who actively maintain this sort of tyranny are the enemies of freedom. Every individual and group who makes the decision to support Microsoft in the presence of viable alternatives meets this definition, and therefore, every individual and group who purchases Vista is an enemy of freedom.
Was that relatively straightforward and clear, or are you still confused?
I'm not interested in winning support on the basis of my friendly demeanor. I don't have one. I'm interested in supporting individuals by providing them practical infrastructures that allow them to walk away from their feudal masters, and I'm good at it. Personally, I think capitalists should be executed for crimes against humanity, but I'm pragmatic enough to recognize that to truly win, the social organization they provide must be replaced. Once that's done, they'll be rendered irrelevant.
Yes, I'm participating in all the ugly shit in the world, because I'm trapped like everyone else. But there's a difference between making compromises and actively enriching myself on the backs of billions by removing their choices. It's hard to live by ideals in a world so corrupt, but you do what you can.
So you're claiming the "Wont someone please think of the children" defense? If they don't want to use Vista or any other piece of software, that's their choice, but to think that somehow they are doing this to protect me by making me see the "error of my ways", well that's a giant bag of crap. They are called PERSONAL choices for a freaking reason.
Who said anything about protecting your freedom? If you're a Vista user, they're more likely interested in punishing you for what you've done with your freedom. Come to think of it, so am I. Freedom doesn't liberate you from accountability to the other free people you share this rock with, and if you think it does, you're in for a hard time.
I'm you are so fucking smart why don't you invest your life savings in an industry-specific open source app? No, I didn't think so either.
I don't have a life savings. I don't trust economies or currencies and I don't like participating in modern capitalism, so I don't keep large amounts of liquidity or financial investments. But I have been investing years of my effort and surplus income into creating an industry specific infrastructure to support artists who release Creative Commons so there will be alternatives to copyright available for people to turn to. And of course, once it's ready and live, I'll release the technological advances I've made to the community. If you want more details, you'll have to wait till I'm ready to handle the load of a slashdotting. But I put my time and money where my mouth is, and I always have. So, fuck off.
Too bad it doesn't explain what they actually did and just says "ooo, this is really bad"
In the days of the Web there is a rule that if someone tells the press before they publish the paper, they are full of it. They haven't told Microsoft, so they can't even claim that they are not releasing the details to allow for a fix.
They're presenting their findings at a black hat conference this week. What makes you think they have any motivation to help MS fix it beforehand? Did it ever occur to you, as people who break security systems they think impede their own and other peoples freedom, they might, just might, have a strong motive to punish anyone who installed it and drive them off Vista?
It's not a major problem. Businesses can make sweeping statements about how they don't wish to deal with license proliferation. But they have been riding all this time on the tail of an install base that was funded by a lot of consumers, and reducing their costs because someone else has been footing the bill. That isn't going to last. When these closed source companies are maintaining an increasingly complex codebase for a shrinking segment of the market, the cost to the shrunken segment is going to increase until there is no longer a business case for using it. When that point is reached, businesses that refuse to get with the program will go out of business.
If IBM wants to see more people using open software, they should send their legal guns in and start tearing down the tyrannical legal structure that prompted this license proliferation in the first place. After all is said and done, they helped build those legal structures that created this situation in the first place. If we had a system that enshrined the peoples right to have access to ideas, rather than one that enshrined the right of individuals and corporations to erect barriers, this wouldn't be happening, and people could stop funding the rich lifestyles of jet-setting lawyers and get down to the business of being productive and making the world a better place to live in.
The lawyer bills are, at the end of the day, what they're complaining about.
I remember years ago, being in the position where it was more convenient to rip my rental DVDs to my hard drive and decode than it was to just watch the disc, and thinking "Wow. People actually pay money for this, and they still get pushed around and made to watch corporate propaganda. This can't last long..."
Then I canceled the cable television, gave away my DVDs and DVD player, stopped renting and ripping and started watching nothing but commercial free torrents. Been quite happily living propaganda free for years now.
Seems to me that these days, media companies are all about taking advantage of ignorant boomers who don't know any better. I recon the market will die with them.
I'm saying that before this is finished, it's going to make the Great Depression look like a trip to Disneyland, and regardless of what you do, it's all going to go to shit and your dollars are going to be cheaper to wipe your ass with than toilet paper. But, hold on to your illusions as long as you can anyways...
The US is about to experience total economic meltdown. After the Fannie May and Freddie Mac debacle, loans to the nation will be harder to come by, damn near half the population is about to retire, there are more people in Law, Finance and Advertising than there are in skilled trades, companies are fleeing overseas, etc, etc, etc.
You're going to see little old ladies with wheelbarrows of cash unable to buy bread in short order, just like when the Cold War ended. Who really cares about fixing these financial systems? It's just wasted effort by a nation that has a lifetime of hard work and painful sacrifices ahead of them. Why even bother?
Ahh. So, these Olympic athletes, they dropped out of school young, did they? While everyone else was sitting at a desk for 7 hours a day, they were out training?
Part of this is that athletes get better with each generation.
What do you attribute this to? Is it the crappy food, the sedentary lifestyle they're raised in, or the growth hormones?
Believe what you want. Personally, I think if you were to reach 2000 years into the past and pluck up an Olympic champion to compete in the modern games, then run the games with all athletes naked and armed with the sort of primitive tools that any person with some free time could make for themselves, well, the modern athletes would get their asses handed to them.
Hey, this is important. Imagine if they had an Olympics and no one scored higher than in previous years. Imagine what that would do to Nike's bottom line. No, we have to keep changing the rules around so every years is even better than the last one. If we can't do it with highly specialized equipment that sets the bar far beyond what a human can do naturally, well, changing the scoring system is cheaper anyways.
If you love your parents and want to see the corporations they've invested their retirement money into do well, you'll embrace this change with open arms. You do love your parents, right?
Looks like a tornado touched down and sent all the guys bookmarks spiraling into a huge disorganized mess. Overwhelmingly craptastic is how I would describe it. I really find this push on all sides to transform my computer from a deterministic machine to a non-deterministic one rather disturbing. I think these are the sorts of tools that, used habitually, will make a person intellectually pliable and mentally deficient. Sabotage the persons capacity to organize their shit, teach them to fuzzy search everything and accept what they receive, throw some corporate propaganda in there to make a few bucks on the side. No one really knows what the computer is going to spit out this time, so they'll accept it. Brawndo, it's got what plants crave...
You are right that some drives are no good for ripping discs. But in this case, it was because the CD was truly royally screwed. I bought the drive in question specifically for ripping discs... can't remember the model off the top of my head, but I think it was a LITE-ON drive. It was the best money could buy for the purpose at the time.
You can learn more than you ever wanted to know about ripping discs from the guys at Chris Myden/UberNet. Not that I would ever have anything to do with such a network, that being illegal and such.
I can vouch for EAC. I've had discs that wouldn't play at all, but I got a complete perfect copy off them using EAC. You may need to be patient though... I had one that took almost 22 hours to complete the rip, with the drive ripping 50 minutes out of every hour and a 10 minute cool-down period to prevent overheating. Can't vouch for it working under WINE though, haven't tried...
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Yes, anyone working in a Stock Exchange is a valid military target. So are manufacturing and power generation infrastructure. So are pipelines and oil reserves.
But the WTC, it was also a morally justifiable target. You don't attract billions of protesters around the world to your back room dealings when you're doing the right thing by people. Those people in those planes, they were heros.
you may wish to move across the Pacific...
I know I've thought about it. They really seem to be a more morally upstanding culture, all in all. Our culture, on the other hand, is due for a collapse. Although, I'm kind of looking forward to that... I'm going to hang lawyers and accountants in trees for fun.
You're forgetting something yourself. When the US was attacked, the attacks were confined to
1) The home of the commander
2) The office of the commander
3) The central offices where the military organize their extensive aggressive operations in foreign nations
4) The central offices where the economists organize the exploitation of the foreign nations that they are dominating
These are all valid military targets, under any circumstances.
When the US last engaged in unprovoked aggressive warfare, that being Iraq, they carpet bombed the nation with radioactive waste.
The US was attacked by courageous freedom fighters. Because they are war criminals and terrorists. Spin it to your hearts content, it's still the truth.
What kind of an evil coward do you need to be to steer bombs into peoples cities from the other side of the planet?
When social power comes from any source other than the peoples trust, it is tyranny. Therefore, power accumulated over other people through legal loopholes and the exploitation of economic leverage is also tyranny. People who actively maintain this sort of tyranny are the enemies of freedom. Every individual and group who makes the decision to support Microsoft in the presence of viable alternatives meets this definition, and therefore, every individual and group who purchases Vista is an enemy of freedom.
Was that relatively straightforward and clear, or are you still confused?
I'm not interested in winning support on the basis of my friendly demeanor. I don't have one. I'm interested in supporting individuals by providing them practical infrastructures that allow them to walk away from their feudal masters, and I'm good at it. Personally, I think capitalists should be executed for crimes against humanity, but I'm pragmatic enough to recognize that to truly win, the social organization they provide must be replaced. Once that's done, they'll be rendered irrelevant.
Yes, I'm participating in all the ugly shit in the world, because I'm trapped like everyone else. But there's a difference between making compromises and actively enriching myself on the backs of billions by removing their choices. It's hard to live by ideals in a world so corrupt, but you do what you can.
One works for IBM the other VMWare. What makes you think they're out to punish anyone or anything?
They're disclosing the vulnerability at a public black hat conference instead of disclosing it to Microsoft.
So you're claiming the "Wont someone please think of the children" defense? If they don't want to use Vista or any other piece of software, that's their choice, but to think that somehow they are doing this to protect me by making me see the "error of my ways", well that's a giant bag of crap. They are called PERSONAL choices for a freaking reason.
Who said anything about protecting your freedom? If you're a Vista user, they're more likely interested in punishing you for what you've done with your freedom. Come to think of it, so am I. Freedom doesn't liberate you from accountability to the other free people you share this rock with, and if you think it does, you're in for a hard time.
I'm you are so fucking smart why don't you invest your life savings in an industry-specific open source app? No, I didn't think so either.
I don't have a life savings. I don't trust economies or currencies and I don't like participating in modern capitalism, so I don't keep large amounts of liquidity or financial investments. But I have been investing years of my effort and surplus income into creating an industry specific infrastructure to support artists who release Creative Commons so there will be alternatives to copyright available for people to turn to. And of course, once it's ready and live, I'll release the technological advances I've made to the community. If you want more details, you'll have to wait till I'm ready to handle the load of a slashdotting. But I put my time and money where my mouth is, and I always have. So, fuck off.
Too bad it doesn't explain what they actually did and just says "ooo, this is really bad"
In the days of the Web there is a rule that if someone tells the press before they publish the paper, they are full of it. They haven't told Microsoft, so they can't even claim that they are not releasing the details to allow for a fix.
They're presenting their findings at a black hat conference this week. What makes you think they have any motivation to help MS fix it beforehand? Did it ever occur to you, as people who break security systems they think impede their own and other peoples freedom, they might, just might, have a strong motive to punish anyone who installed it and drive them off Vista?
It's not a major problem. Businesses can make sweeping statements about how they don't wish to deal with license proliferation. But they have been riding all this time on the tail of an install base that was funded by a lot of consumers, and reducing their costs because someone else has been footing the bill. That isn't going to last. When these closed source companies are maintaining an increasingly complex codebase for a shrinking segment of the market, the cost to the shrunken segment is going to increase until there is no longer a business case for using it. When that point is reached, businesses that refuse to get with the program will go out of business.
If IBM wants to see more people using open software, they should send their legal guns in and start tearing down the tyrannical legal structure that prompted this license proliferation in the first place. After all is said and done, they helped build those legal structures that created this situation in the first place. If we had a system that enshrined the peoples right to have access to ideas, rather than one that enshrined the right of individuals and corporations to erect barriers, this wouldn't be happening, and people could stop funding the rich lifestyles of jet-setting lawyers and get down to the business of being productive and making the world a better place to live in.
The lawyer bills are, at the end of the day, what they're complaining about.
Perhaps. But at least I'm not paying for it.
I'm not a filthy American. You trying to pick a fight or something?
Do they still do that mandatory trailer crap?
I remember years ago, being in the position where it was more convenient to rip my rental DVDs to my hard drive and decode than it was to just watch the disc, and thinking "Wow. People actually pay money for this, and they still get pushed around and made to watch corporate propaganda. This can't last long..."
Then I canceled the cable television, gave away my DVDs and DVD player, stopped renting and ripping and started watching nothing but commercial free torrents. Been quite happily living propaganda free for years now.
Seems to me that these days, media companies are all about taking advantage of ignorant boomers who don't know any better. I recon the market will die with them.
I'm saying that before this is finished, it's going to make the Great Depression look like a trip to Disneyland, and regardless of what you do, it's all going to go to shit and your dollars are going to be cheaper to wipe your ass with than toilet paper. But, hold on to your illusions as long as you can anyways...
The US is about to experience total economic meltdown. After the Fannie May and Freddie Mac debacle, loans to the nation will be harder to come by, damn near half the population is about to retire, there are more people in Law, Finance and Advertising than there are in skilled trades, companies are fleeing overseas, etc, etc, etc.
You're going to see little old ladies with wheelbarrows of cash unable to buy bread in short order, just like when the Cold War ended. Who really cares about fixing these financial systems? It's just wasted effort by a nation that has a lifetime of hard work and painful sacrifices ahead of them. Why even bother?
Ahh. So, these Olympic athletes, they dropped out of school young, did they? While everyone else was sitting at a desk for 7 hours a day, they were out training?
The same reason almost every other human endeavor gets better over time?
False premise.
Part of this is that athletes get better with each generation.
What do you attribute this to? Is it the crappy food, the sedentary lifestyle they're raised in, or the growth hormones?
Believe what you want. Personally, I think if you were to reach 2000 years into the past and pluck up an Olympic champion to compete in the modern games, then run the games with all athletes naked and armed with the sort of primitive tools that any person with some free time could make for themselves, well, the modern athletes would get their asses handed to them.
Hey, this is important. Imagine if they had an Olympics and no one scored higher than in previous years. Imagine what that would do to Nike's bottom line. No, we have to keep changing the rules around so every years is even better than the last one. If we can't do it with highly specialized equipment that sets the bar far beyond what a human can do naturally, well, changing the scoring system is cheaper anyways.
If you love your parents and want to see the corporations they've invested their retirement money into do well, you'll embrace this change with open arms. You do love your parents, right?
Looks like a tornado touched down and sent all the guys bookmarks spiraling into a huge disorganized mess. Overwhelmingly craptastic is how I would describe it. I really find this push on all sides to transform my computer from a deterministic machine to a non-deterministic one rather disturbing. I think these are the sorts of tools that, used habitually, will make a person intellectually pliable and mentally deficient. Sabotage the persons capacity to organize their shit, teach them to fuzzy search everything and accept what they receive, throw some corporate propaganda in there to make a few bucks on the side. No one really knows what the computer is going to spit out this time, so they'll accept it. Brawndo, it's got what plants crave...
You are right that some drives are no good for ripping discs. But in this case, it was because the CD was truly royally screwed. I bought the drive in question specifically for ripping discs... can't remember the model off the top of my head, but I think it was a LITE-ON drive. It was the best money could buy for the purpose at the time.
You can learn more than you ever wanted to know about ripping discs from the guys at Chris Myden/UberNet. Not that I would ever have anything to do with such a network, that being illegal and such.
http://www.chrismyden.com/uber/
I can vouch for EAC. I've had discs that wouldn't play at all, but I got a complete perfect copy off them using EAC. You may need to be patient though... I had one that took almost 22 hours to complete the rip, with the drive ripping 50 minutes out of every hour and a 10 minute cool-down period to prevent overheating. Can't vouch for it working under WINE though, haven't tried...