If I am confusing them, I'm certainly not the only one. Note the title of this discussion:
Apple To Issue a 'Fix' For iPhone 4 Reception Perception
If you are reading my comment and are assuming that I, BobMcD, was the only reader on the planet to assume that these issues are intertwined, then I apologize. From my reality, this doesn't seem to be the case, so I understand the source of the disconnect.
...but lower reported bars does not automatically equal "dropped call,"
This was actually intrinsic to my point. Lower bars doesn't drop the call, holding it the 'wrong way' does. At least assuming the youtube videos and coverage online aren't all part of a giant conspiracy.
and many of the loudest and most vocal critics of the iPhone 4 issues have not been actual iPhone 4 owners.
This is always the case due to simple psychology. 'Actual iPhone 4 owners' are looking for reasons to keep the device because of reinforcement dynamics. The same would apply for any decision. People always, always weight the facts in support of their positions greater than those opposed to it. Because we all want to be thought of as 'smart', don't we?
If you scare a man into fearing consequences until he will no longer stand for good, you only degrade society a little bit....but if you teach everyone on Slashdot to think of themselves, and never stand for good, you harm society for many lifetimes.
My caveat was subtle, but I'll underscore it.
Stand for good at home. Be a good guest when you're visiting. If you come across something completely abhorrent to your system of values, come home ASAP.
Again, when at home, fight like hell and give no quarter.
You are aware that even mail.google.com gets blocked once in a while?
Risk/reward would still apply. All you're doing with this use-case is increasing the value of the website. The calculation still needs to happen in your head.
Yes, but it won't work that way. They'll be in a call, change the way their phone is held, and the call will drop. They'll know about the issue, and will be pissed off.
Because, again, the call was working until they held it the 'wrong way'.
I don't understand the logic behind this suggestion. Could you explain it to me?
Slashdot contains, as one of its greatest features, a meta-moderation system. With a run-of-the-mill, provide-an-email sign up system, you too can log into the site and participate. Your comments will be tied to that account, and the moderators can judge the relative worth of your contributions. Further their efforts are judged by the meta system, which determines which moderators get which points.
Another facet of this service is identity, friend/foe, and post history. All of these things can be used to help sort out a poster's relative worth to you, the reader.
The Anonymous Coward circumvents this system in multiple ways. Presumably they do so in order to get their comment across without participating in the system.
'Coward' is implicit. You're afraid to be identified, for one reason or another. Should you work for Apple, please do participate on slashdot under an anonymized user name. This way I can foe you and move on...
While not necessarily the best tone in the world, I actually agree with DJ Jones here.
Here's your decision tree:
1) Is the website you want to see worth defying the laws of your hosting nation?
2) Is absolutely no way you can do without it until you come home?
3) Do you have some kind of diplomatic immunity, wealthy connections, etc that can extract you from a sticky situation?
You get the picture.
Imagine this post on the Arabian Slashdot:
I am getting ready to travel to the United States and don't want it to interrupt my terrorist training. Can you guys recommend a way around the DHS's websniffing protocols, eavesdropping, cellular tracking, etc?
And what would your advice be??
Opportunistically, if you gave advice about methods, would you feel bad if he landed in Gitmo?
Think about the implications. After all, it is only the internet and you don't live there. Think deeply.
This doesn't change the fact that the signal strength changes with how you hold the phone. If the change manifests itself only in fewer bars, everything will be alright. If actual call quality or reliability is affected, this change won't do anything for that
THIS!
Dear Apple, please note that shifting the blame to your crappy, and exclusive, network partner won't work. You can't mitigate the act of holding the phone in a natural way via software update. The end result is still a dropped call, and with the thing up to your face you're not going to notice what the bars say anyway.
Idiots.
Even if this were a true fix, and I don't believe for a second that it is mind you, but if it were you'd want to sneak it in via security update and THEN start laying blame on AT&T. Not preemptively!
Except, that from a societal point of view, homosexuality provides nothing of value outside of that relationship. Heterosexual pairings frequently provide additional taxpayers.
Since 10+% unemployment seems to be a permanent feature of modern capitalism, I'd say that it's not a matter of providing taxpayers, but of not creating social security -getters.
Okay, but that's sort of a non-point as well. As evidenced by the desire to give citizenship to illegals it should be clear that the present government wants to add to the census numbers. For better or worse, this certainly seems clear.
The more I look into the relationship between Lamo and Wired, the bogus Auspergers story, etc, the more I am coming to believe that this entire affair is a PR snowjob. WikiLeaks has bloodied the nose of the American Military War Machine, and they have used their leverage over ex-con-hacker-types to smear the organization. They appear to be trying to kill the credibility of WikiLeaks before the release of any further material, and might possibly be interfering with them in a technical manner as well.
The whole thing stinks to high heaven, and we can only hope and pray that everything works out. This is a situation where 'the Man' needs to lose. Go go 'little guy'!
Meanwhile we need a real reporter with actual sources to dig deep and blow the lid off of this poorly disguised farce.
The fact that it has backfired and show clear minded people what a douche he is and what a scam wikileaks is in general was just a side effect of his greed.
That's a mighty fine axe you're looking to grind there. Are you a spook, or do you run a competing website, or what? What's with the desire to see it go down?
So while the helicopter pilots may well have been callous and uncaring, that doesn't mean their actions were illegal. To judge that, you need to see the situation in full, and also to have a good understanding of the rules of engagement in that situation. As with anything liek that, the question isn't what you feel, the question is a matter of law.
The trick is, though, without the leak of the video the matter would never have been questioned outside of the organization accused. To my knowledge nothing further would have come of this event and none of us would even have been told that it happened.
There's simply no excuse for that being kept secret. The most likely explanation is a cover up, because it is entirely clear that a mistake was made - even though we may disagree as to the severity - and that SOMEONE should have been reprimanded for the unnecessary and non-productive loss of innocent life.
No one came into even double the effective range of that alleged weapon. At no time was it ever pointed at anyone. The rules of engagement were not followed, period. Likewise the video also shows the firing of rockets into a residential area, killing bystanders passing by on the streets. The video itself showed clearly the callus nature of our troops and a blind disregard for the right to inhale oxygen, even for children, when it would be more fun to kill them and score as many points as possible in this the greatest of video games.
This is an old argument, and is getting really tired at this point. You want to blindly believe and conduct ad hominem attacks against those who draw other conclusions, fine. But please go ahead and label them as a 'pinko commie' in the first paragraph so less time is wasted getting to the end of your paragraphs.
What I do have a problem with is their faulty analysis that they attached to it, and the setting up of a flame war by calling the site collateral murder.
They totally should have called it, 'an uneventful day in the desert'.
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We agree on the PR mistake, to be sure.
As for the article, I'm presently pissed at Wired for what I perceive as their unethical role in the Lamo/Manning scenario. Asperger's story, my ass.
That is simply to say I'm probably missing out on a fine article, indeed.
Have any westerners ever actually been punished for circumventing the firewall?
And while that's an excellent point, and certainly part of the risk/reward calculation - would you want to be the first?
If I am confusing them, I'm certainly not the only one. Note the title of this discussion:
Apple To Issue a 'Fix' For iPhone 4 Reception Perception
If you are reading my comment and are assuming that I, BobMcD, was the only reader on the planet to assume that these issues are intertwined, then I apologize. From my reality, this doesn't seem to be the case, so I understand the source of the disconnect.
In my opinion, Apple should give everyone a bumper case to go with their iPhone 4 if they request it. That solves much of the problem.
We agree completely here. This would be similar to what Nintendo did with their Wiimote condoms.
...but lower reported bars does not automatically equal "dropped call,"
This was actually intrinsic to my point. Lower bars doesn't drop the call, holding it the 'wrong way' does. At least assuming the youtube videos and coverage online aren't all part of a giant conspiracy.
and many of the loudest and most vocal critics of the iPhone 4 issues have not been actual iPhone 4 owners.
This is always the case due to simple psychology. 'Actual iPhone 4 owners' are looking for reasons to keep the device because of reinforcement dynamics. The same would apply for any decision. People always, always weight the facts in support of their positions greater than those opposed to it. Because we all want to be thought of as 'smart', don't we?
The iPhone 4 is just a SLIGHTLY more egregious offender than other phones.
This is likely true, so much that I'm taking your word for it without question.
It also isn't nearly as relevant as the unfortunate locality of the problem - how the phone is held.
That subtle issue changes it from SNAFU to FUBAR, and I personally find those situations distinct. I do respect that you may not see any difference.
If you scare a man into fearing consequences until he will no longer stand for good, you only degrade society a little bit. ...but if you teach everyone on Slashdot to think of themselves, and never stand for good, you harm society for many lifetimes.
My caveat was subtle, but I'll underscore it.
Stand for good at home. Be a good guest when you're visiting. If you come across something completely abhorrent to your system of values, come home ASAP.
Again, when at home, fight like hell and give no quarter.
You are aware that even mail.google.com gets blocked once in a while?
Risk/reward would still apply. All you're doing with this use-case is increasing the value of the website. The calculation still needs to happen in your head.
I say... fight!.
And if you live in China, I agree! Not so much if you're just visiting, though.
Yes, but it won't work that way. They'll be in a call, change the way their phone is held, and the call will drop. They'll know about the issue, and will be pissed off.
Because, again, the call was working until they held it the 'wrong way'.
Man up and log in.
I don't understand the logic behind this suggestion. Could you explain it to me?
Slashdot contains, as one of its greatest features, a meta-moderation system. With a run-of-the-mill, provide-an-email sign up system, you too can log into the site and participate. Your comments will be tied to that account, and the moderators can judge the relative worth of your contributions. Further their efforts are judged by the meta system, which determines which moderators get which points.
Another facet of this service is identity, friend/foe, and post history. All of these things can be used to help sort out a poster's relative worth to you, the reader.
The Anonymous Coward circumvents this system in multiple ways. Presumably they do so in order to get their comment across without participating in the system.
'Coward' is implicit. You're afraid to be identified, for one reason or another. Should you work for Apple, please do participate on slashdot under an anonymized user name. This way I can foe you and move on...
While not necessarily the best tone in the world, I actually agree with DJ Jones here.
Here's your decision tree:
1) Is the website you want to see worth defying the laws of your hosting nation?
2) Is absolutely no way you can do without it until you come home?
3) Do you have some kind of diplomatic immunity, wealthy connections, etc that can extract you from a sticky situation?
You get the picture.
Imagine this post on the Arabian Slashdot:
I am getting ready to travel to the United States and don't want it to interrupt my terrorist training. Can you guys recommend a way around the DHS's websniffing protocols, eavesdropping, cellular tracking, etc?
And what would your advice be??
Opportunistically, if you gave advice about methods, would you feel bad if he landed in Gitmo?
Think about the implications. After all, it is only the internet and you don't live there. Think deeply.
Actually yes. And if you return it and buy an Android, etc, instead, you'd also be voting with your wallet.
Again about that AC activity that always supports the vendor in question, in any discussion.
Man up and log in. It isn't really all that hard.
This doesn't change the fact that the signal strength changes with how you hold the phone. If the change manifests itself only in fewer bars, everything will be alright. If actual call quality or reliability is affected, this change won't do anything for that
THIS!
Dear Apple, please note that shifting the blame to your crappy, and exclusive, network partner won't work. You can't mitigate the act of holding the phone in a natural way via software update. The end result is still a dropped call, and with the thing up to your face you're not going to notice what the bars say anyway.
Idiots.
Even if this were a true fix, and I don't believe for a second that it is mind you, but if it were you'd want to sneak it in via security update and THEN start laying blame on AT&T. Not preemptively!
Just flat out moronic.
Since 10+% unemployment seems to be a permanent feature of modern capitalism, I'd say that it's not a matter of providing taxpayers, but of not creating social security -getters.
Okay, but that's sort of a non-point as well. As evidenced by the desire to give citizenship to illegals it should be clear that the present government wants to add to the census numbers. For better or worse, this certainly seems clear.
The more I look into the relationship between Lamo and Wired, the bogus Auspergers story, etc, the more I am coming to believe that this entire affair is a PR snowjob. WikiLeaks has bloodied the nose of the American Military War Machine, and they have used their leverage over ex-con-hacker-types to smear the organization. They appear to be trying to kill the credibility of WikiLeaks before the release of any further material, and might possibly be interfering with them in a technical manner as well.
The whole thing stinks to high heaven, and we can only hope and pray that everything works out. This is a situation where 'the Man' needs to lose. Go go 'little guy'!
Meanwhile we need a real reporter with actual sources to dig deep and blow the lid off of this poorly disguised farce.
The fact that it has backfired and show clear minded people what a douche he is and what a scam wikileaks is in general was just a side effect of his greed.
That's a mighty fine axe you're looking to grind there. Are you a spook, or do you run a competing website, or what? What's with the desire to see it go down?
RPG's have a limited range. The rules of engagement weren't followed. Look it up.
So while the helicopter pilots may well have been callous and uncaring, that doesn't mean their actions were illegal. To judge that, you need to see the situation in full, and also to have a good understanding of the rules of engagement in that situation. As with anything liek that, the question isn't what you feel, the question is a matter of law.
The trick is, though, without the leak of the video the matter would never have been questioned outside of the organization accused. To my knowledge nothing further would have come of this event and none of us would even have been told that it happened.
There's simply no excuse for that being kept secret. The most likely explanation is a cover up, because it is entirely clear that a mistake was made - even though we may disagree as to the severity - and that SOMEONE should have been reprimanded for the unnecessary and non-productive loss of innocent life.
While I don't agree with Manning on leaking the cables, the video was a little more understandable.
So you've seen the content of the cables, then?
WikiLeaks is a sideshow for the rubes, much like the conservative republican/liberal democrat smackdown that goes on daily.
Doesn't follow.
If WikiLeaks is just a part of the machine, why is it being targeted and why would it struggle to operate? Just a clever ruse? That's a bit paranoid.
No one came into even double the effective range of that alleged weapon. At no time was it ever pointed at anyone. The rules of engagement were not followed, period. Likewise the video also shows the firing of rockets into a residential area, killing bystanders passing by on the streets. The video itself showed clearly the callus nature of our troops and a blind disregard for the right to inhale oxygen, even for children, when it would be more fun to kill them and score as many points as possible in this the greatest of video games.
This is an old argument, and is getting really tired at this point. You want to blindly believe and conduct ad hominem attacks against those who draw other conclusions, fine. But please go ahead and label them as a 'pinko commie' in the first paragraph so less time is wasted getting to the end of your paragraphs.
What I do have a problem with is their faulty analysis that they attached to it, and the setting up of a flame war by calling the site collateral murder.
They totally should have called it, 'an uneventful day in the desert'.
You don't know what you're talking about.
Citations aside, sticking to the gospels is definitely the way to go.