Care to point out how Microsoft have any part in this, other than releasing an operating system that Creative makes drivers for?
The OS they released broke existing drivers in order to provide a protected data path for media companies' products. Computer users don't want DRM and shouldn't have to pay for it.
What's being said now is that this will be a pyrrhic victory [wikipedia.org] for Microsoft. Many will discredit this standard (even with the ISO stamp on it)
That is the goal.
Microsoft does not like being held to standards. The devaluation of ISO is as big a win for them as the acceptance of MSOOXML.
Your company has just subverted one of the most valuable standards organisations humanity has ever had. They're gypping computer users for billions of dollars with their monopoly rents, have sent dozens of legitimate businesses to the wall just for daring to compete with them, and you're getting all weepy and whiny because some guy has a few extra blog logins?
And you're being modded up?
Talk about Apple having a reality distortion field...
It seems this has little to do with the USA though.
This has a LOT to do with the USA.
Microsoft has been indulging in clearly uncompetitive practices for decades with no more than a slap on the wrist from US regulators. The EU has achieved more real change in the past three years than the US did in that whole time.
In fact the EU isinvestigating the irregularites in the OOXML debacle.
Microsoft probably bought a few persuasive people to argue the point until they're blue in the face.
That's pretty much what happened in Australia.
Over here, Rick Jelliffe was touted as an open standards advocate and given an extraordinary amount of influence in the MSOOXML deliberations despite being employed by MS as a consultant and being paid by Microsoft to help edit the draft of Microsoft's OOXML standards proposal..
Most attempts to communicate with Standards Australia were ignored or responded to with a form letter, and there was only one public forum in Sydney with little prior notice.
People who root boxes want upstream, so they can scan for more boxes to hack, ddos things or distribute malware. They typically have very little need for downstream bandwidth
There's a lot of home users out there running non-admined MS boxes.
never underestimate the bandwidth of a truckload of pipes...
I always install KDE, Gnome and XFCE. If I'm doing office/business stuff, I'll use KDE, games or graphics Gnome while admin or development is done in XFCE. I can't really justify those choices, but they work for me.
But it's probably worth remembering you're not Robinson Crusoe on that. There are a lot of silent (for some values of silent) supporters you can tap if you need to. In fact, if you need help from over in Australia, give me a yell.
The last time I asked Mike Tiemann, the closest definition I got of when the election is was "before the April board meeting", which I think is April 2.
April 1 then.
Is there something you'd like to confess now, Bruce?
You're not very smart if your entire opinion on any Microsoft product is based on what Slashdot puts in front of you.
You're not very smart if you can't see the poor reviews elsewhere.
After more than five years of development, there's a definite "Is that all?" feeling about Windows Vista. Like cramming an info-dump into a book report the night before it's due, there certainly are a lot of individual features within the operating system, but the real value lies in their execution--how the user experiences (or doesn't experience) these--and like the info-dump, we came away shaking our heads, disappointed. http://reviews.cnet.com/windows/windows-vista-ultimate/4505-3672_7-32013603.html
I had trouble getting my Microsoft mouse to work properly, the unintuitive and strangely rearranged interface drove me crazy, and the system's poor performance was intolerable. I have several pages of notes on Vista; this review would double in size if I were to list every issue I found with this operating system, so I'll cut it short and say that I was extremely disappointed. When you peel away the fancy graphical interface enhancements, you're left with an operating environment that performs poorly, is difficult to use, has inadequate desktop hardware and software support, and annoys its users with unending security messages. http://www.softwareinreview.com/windows/windows_vista_review.html Do you want more?
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The OS they released broke existing drivers in order to provide a protected data path for media companies' products. Computer users don't want DRM and shouldn't have to pay for it.
That is the goal.
Microsoft does not like being held to standards. The devaluation of ISO is as big a win for them as the acceptance of MSOOXML.
Oh crap.
Does this mean you're stalking me as well now?
Let me get this straight.
Your company has just subverted one of the most valuable standards organisations humanity has ever had. They're gypping computer users for billions of dollars with their monopoly rents, have sent dozens of legitimate businesses to the wall just for daring to compete with them, and you're getting all weepy and whiny because some guy has a few extra blog logins?
And you're being modded up?
Talk about Apple having a reality distortion field...
This has a LOT to do with the USA.
Microsoft has been indulging in clearly uncompetitive practices for decades with no more than a slap on the wrist from US regulators. The EU has achieved more real change in the past three years than the US did in that whole time.
In fact the EU is investigating the irregularites in the OOXML debacle.
That's pretty much what happened in Australia.
Over here, Rick Jelliffe was touted as an open standards advocate and given an extraordinary amount of influence in the MSOOXML deliberations despite being employed by MS as a consultant and being paid by Microsoft to help edit the draft of Microsoft's OOXML standards proposal..
Most attempts to communicate with Standards Australia were ignored or responded to with a form letter, and there was only one public forum in Sydney with little prior notice.
You:No, most designs specify a thin ribbon.
You're a politician, right?
There's a lot of home users out there running non-admined MS boxes.
never underestimate the bandwidth of a truckload of pipes...
That's not why we blame Microsoft.
We blame Microsoft for making it irritating, DRM infested and slow when they fixed the security issues.
KDE can be as anything you want it to be.
The distros are responsible for the clutter. Choose one which suits your level of organisation.
How 'bout you reformat and reinstall so the rest of us don't pay for your "everything appears fine." system?
Choice, yes.
I always install KDE, Gnome and XFCE. If I'm doing office/business stuff, I'll use KDE, games or graphics Gnome while admin or development is done in XFCE. I can't really justify those choices, but they work for me.
Why is this modded insightful? MS marketing got mod points again?
When has any Linux vendor blamed their users for a failed upgrade?
Most often when an error occurs, there's a mea culpa from those responsible and the community collectively learns from it.
Can you give an example of where they have failed on this scale?
I'm glad you do.
But it's probably worth remembering you're not Robinson Crusoe on that. There are a lot of silent (for some values of silent) supporters you can tap if you need to. In fact, if you need help from over in Australia, give me a yell.
Why not just try it for yourself? You can get it from the /developer/DEV300_*/ directory of any of the mirrors.
I've used it, and continue to use it on client supplied machines.
I agree with the reviews above.
Self-fulfilling prophecy, I suspect.
April 1 then.
Is there something you'd like to confess now, Bruce?
Why?
They're not remotely similar, or did you just want to pick the low-hanging fruit?
You're not very smart if you can't see the poor reviews elsewhere.
After more than five years of development, there's a definite "Is that all?" feeling about Windows Vista. Like cramming an info-dump into a book report the night before it's due, there certainly are a lot of individual features within the operating system, but the real value lies in their execution--how the user experiences (or doesn't experience) these--and like the info-dump, we came away shaking our heads, disappointed.http://reviews.cnet.com/windows/windows-vista-ultimate/4505-3672_7-32013603.html I had trouble getting my Microsoft mouse to work properly, the unintuitive and strangely rearranged interface drove me crazy, and the system's poor performance was intolerable. I have several pages of notes on Vista; this review would double in size if I were to list every issue I found with this operating system, so I'll cut it short and say that I was extremely disappointed. When you peel away the fancy graphical interface enhancements, you're left with an operating environment that performs poorly, is difficult to use, has inadequate desktop hardware and software support, and annoys its users with unending security messages.
http://www.softwareinreview.com/windows/windows_vista_review.html Do you want more?
Look, we know there are people out there who like Vista, but it doesn't mean anything.
When I dumped my ex, she found herself another bloke easily, and she's an irritating, fat, resource-hogging beast of a thing as well.
And unlike the MS boosters, at least her new bf has the grace not to go around bragging about how much he likes being screwed by her.
They uninstalled IE?
Well, at least with Longhorn there's no way it's going to be premature.
It's getting to be a close call though.