But if you put up a noose, you're threatening to lynch someone. Moreover, it is obviously racially motivated.
Why? In the old west, white men were typically hanged quite often. Perhaps it is Halloween... The point is that YOU choose to see the noose as racial, regardless of what I am thinking if I put one up. In this case, it is less the action of the speaker than the interpretation of the listener.
Which is the same thing as if I choose to take your statement as a hatred of all white men, and you as attacking my rights to free speech.
People still get lynched, though it is becoming rarer.
And does killing hurt more if it is racially motivated? Lynching is illegal. Lets focus on evil actions, because there are plenty of those.
Yeah, because conservatives have done nothing to increase the power of government. Come on, if you're going to criticize the left, use a criticism that cant be turned around and work just as well against the right.
Even if I have been? Am I only aloud to criticize current mistakes if I quote my criticism of prior mistakes as well? Damn! This could take a while...
What ever happened to "Sticks and stones can break my bones, but words will never hurt me?"
It is now "Sticks and stones can be forgiven as a condition of growing up in a fatherless home in urban America. But words will land your but in court for both civil and criminal sanctions..."
I guess we have different definitions of small. If half the Linux users would all send me a buck, I think you might consider that to be a bit of cash.
Unfortunately, it's not your definition of small that matters here - it's Bethesda, id, and EA's definition.
To put this in perspective, remember that there's 30 million Xbox 360 owners out there. If 1 in 20 Xbox owners buy Rage, that'll be ~60,000 copies sold. Show me an existing Linux game that's sold more than 30,000 copies, and you might have an argument. Linux is also a giant pain in the ass to support, and that's undoubtedly factored into their cost/benefit analysis too.
First, there is a license fee to release software for Xbox, and it is a large portion of the game cost.
Second, the Id support in the past was a website and blog. Not exactly costly...
Third, it is all about profit. If you have better margins, you don't need to seel as much for the same profit.
Fourth, you act like it is a choice... They don't need to give up an Xbox version to release for Linux. If they cover the development costs, it is a win, just from the press.
And BTW, based on the forum responses in the slashdot-linked article, it reminded me why Linux is not (and probably never will be) widespread on the desktop: just to get the damn OS (of whatever distro you chose) running, you have to go to a forum filled with people like them and beg for help only to get a bunch of asstard responses, and then come back again whenever you're trying to find/learn another new program.
No thanks.
Perhaps including the word "asstard" in your request dictates the type of response you get...
Nope. I didn't buy all those iD games the day the Linux port came out. Never happened.
The problem is that this never happens often enough.
This may be true. But the way id sells games there is no way to tell. You "buy" the windows version, and torrent the linux port. Watching Quake Live will actually be a very good metric.
I agree. If you're willing to use the proprietary drivers, just log back into win-does. If you're not willing to use the proprietary driver, then you probably aren't willing to use windows anyways, so ID isn't exactly losing your purchase.
Depends on why you use Linux. If it is some religious reason, you have a point. If it is because it is more stable, and just a better tool for the job, then you don't I just like to pick the best tool. For me that is Linux with the 180 nVidia blob drivers.
Me too... I will buy it if the port it. I won't if they don't. But they have made noises like this before... And always managed a port eventually.
Still would not hurt to fire up Quake Live, and pass it around. It is still free right now. http://www.quakelive.com/
But it is a market with very little piracy of native games. Also, very little competition, so you have a better penetration rate. Not sure if it is enough, but it is substantial.
100% of "very small" is still "very small"...
I guess we have different definitions of small. If half the Linux users would all send me a buck, I think you might consider that to be a bit of cash.
But it is a market with very little piracy of native games. Also, very little competition, so you have a better penetration rate. Not sure if it is enough, but it is substantial.
There were several cases in the past where I tried this. I cannot recall a single time where offering money brought back from the dead an otherwise MIA maintainer.
The theory is solid, but I have never managed to see it work in practice. Perhaps their spam filter ate my "I WANT TO PAY YOU MONEY" email.....
I have done this, and it has worked exactly 50% of the time. OK, I did it twice, and it worked once.:) But it really worked well that once!
Normally Apple is on a totally different playing field from any competition... Not here, and it will be interesting to see how they deal with this.:) I am betting lawyers and politicians.
Internet in barrack, apartments, and base housing is normal ISP provided Internet with no funky DoD stuff involved. That is not blocked in any way (unless, you know, your ISP is blocking p2p or something). We even had satellite service set up in our housing in Baghdad to give us unfettered civilian access to the 'Net during downtime. We paid for it from a local company and split it among enough people to make it reasonable. I would not have wanted to play WoW across it, but it did fine for IM, web browsing, and e-mail.
Thanks for that. I have a friend that may go back overseas, and his most used point of contact with friends is facebook. I was wondering if this could eventually effect him. He is Air Force, but I am betting the other branches will follow suit if this works well.
Time management. If you have a good process, a reinstall should take very little time. You could just use dpkg to reset all the configuration files as well, and that might work too. It is just which is easier. I usually just install each version fresh on my laptops. Less leftover cruft that way, and only slightly more time investment. However, my desktop has been upgraded for several versions.
When you upgrade major systems, there is a risk. At least with the breaks at distribution levels, you have some warning. And with a good system, a reinstall doesn't take much more time than an upgrade.
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But if you put up a noose, you're threatening to lynch someone. Moreover, it is obviously racially motivated.
Why? In the old west, white men were typically hanged quite often. Perhaps it is Halloween... The point is that YOU choose to see the noose as racial, regardless of what I am thinking if I put one up. In this case, it is less the action of the speaker than the interpretation of the listener.
Which is the same thing as if I choose to take your statement as a hatred of all white men, and you as attacking my rights to free speech.
People still get lynched, though it is becoming rarer.
And does killing hurt more if it is racially motivated? Lynching is illegal. Lets focus on evil actions, because there are plenty of those.
Yeah, because conservatives have done nothing to increase the power of government. Come on, if you're going to criticize the left, use a criticism that cant be turned around and work just as well against the right.
Even if I have been? Am I only aloud to criticize current mistakes if I quote my criticism of prior mistakes as well? Damn! This could take a while...
What ever happened to "Sticks and stones can break my bones, but words will never hurt me?"
It is now "Sticks and stones can be forgiven as a condition of growing up in a fatherless home in urban America. But words will land your but in court for both civil and criminal sanctions..."
Zero gravity probably makes the actual copulation bit kinda tricky too.
I would love to see the NASA training budget for this one!
cleaning up afterward might also be a bitch
But no worries about who sleeps in the wet spot...
Thank you for that... I will now have one more not-work thing to do at work tomorrow. :)
All the ones hitting it now... You have to wonder if this was a ploy by Carmak to get Linux numbers up to justify the port...
I guess we have different definitions of small. If half the Linux users would all send me a buck, I think you might consider that to be a bit of cash.
Unfortunately, it's not your definition of small that matters here - it's Bethesda, id, and EA's definition. To put this in perspective, remember that there's 30 million Xbox 360 owners out there. If 1 in 20 Xbox owners buy Rage, that'll be ~60,000 copies sold. Show me an existing Linux game that's sold more than 30,000 copies, and you might have an argument. Linux is also a giant pain in the ass to support, and that's undoubtedly factored into their cost/benefit analysis too.
First, there is a license fee to release software for Xbox, and it is a large portion of the game cost.
Second, the Id support in the past was a website and blog. Not exactly costly...
Third, it is all about profit. If you have better margins, you don't need to seel as much for the same profit.
Fourth, you act like it is a choice... They don't need to give up an Xbox version to release for Linux. If they cover the development costs, it is a win, just from the press.
Point: Loki Games no longer exists.
I think that proves the point.
And BTW, based on the forum responses in the slashdot-linked article, it reminded me why Linux is not (and probably never will be) widespread on the desktop: just to get the damn OS (of whatever distro you chose) running, you have to go to a forum filled with people like them and beg for help only to get a bunch of asstard responses, and then come back again whenever you're trying to find/learn another new program.
No thanks.
Perhaps including the word "asstard" in your request dictates the type of response you get...
Nope. I didn't buy all those iD games the day the Linux port came out. Never happened.
The problem is that this never happens often enough.
This may be true. But the way id sells games there is no way to tell. You "buy" the windows version, and torrent the linux port. Watching Quake Live will actually be a very good metric.
I agree. If you're willing to use the proprietary drivers, just log back into win-does. If you're not willing to use the proprietary driver, then you probably aren't willing to use windows anyways, so ID isn't exactly losing your purchase.
Depends on why you use Linux. If it is some religious reason, you have a point. If it is because it is more stable, and just a better tool for the job, then you don't I just like to pick the best tool. For me that is Linux with the 180 nVidia blob drivers.
Linux users never pay for anything, so it doesn't even matter.
Nope. I didn't buy all those iD games the day the Linux port came out. Never happened.
;)
And Red Hat and Crosover Office really don't make money at all... It is all a myth.
Me too... I will buy it if the port it. I won't if they don't. But they have made noises like this before... And always managed a port eventually. Still would not hurt to fire up Quake Live, and pass it around. It is still free right now. http://www.quakelive.com/
But it is a market with very little piracy of native games. Also, very little competition, so you have a better penetration rate. Not sure if it is enough, but it is substantial.
100% of "very small" is still "very small"...
I guess we have different definitions of small. If half the Linux users would all send me a buck, I think you might consider that to be a bit of cash.
But it is a market with very little piracy of native games. Also, very little competition, so you have a better penetration rate. Not sure if it is enough, but it is substantial.
sorry, this joke kinda wrote itself.
I wish it was a joke.
There were several cases in the past where I tried this. I cannot recall a single time where offering money brought back from the dead an otherwise MIA maintainer.
The theory is solid, but I have never managed to see it work in practice. Perhaps their spam filter ate my "I WANT TO PAY YOU MONEY" email.....
I have done this, and it has worked exactly 50% of the time. OK, I did it twice, and it worked once. :) But it really worked well that once!
Insightful?!? I never take vacations, and not everybody has family or friends. Seriously, dude, what the fuck?
And you run all the Linux projects? Man! You are a GOD!
An Apple a day keeps allergy doctors busy?
http://www.cbc.ca/health/story/2006/05/03/fruit-allergy060503.html
Normally Apple is on a totally different playing field from any competition... Not here, and it will be interesting to see how they deal with this. :) I am betting lawyers and politicians.
That is, unless they have fixed their battery tech.
My thoughts exactly, first thing that came to my mind!!!
Not mine... I was thinking "How will Sony screw over there own customers this time?" Looks cool, but what nasty DRM lurks underneath?
Internet in barrack, apartments, and base housing is normal ISP provided Internet with no funky DoD stuff involved. That is not blocked in any way (unless, you know, your ISP is blocking p2p or something). We even had satellite service set up in our housing in Baghdad to give us unfettered civilian access to the 'Net during downtime. We paid for it from a local company and split it among enough people to make it reasonable. I would not have wanted to play WoW across it, but it did fine for IM, web browsing, and e-mail.
Thanks for that. I have a friend that may go back overseas, and his most used point of contact with friends is facebook. I was wondering if this could eventually effect him. He is Air Force, but I am betting the other branches will follow suit if this works well.
I guess the real question is who they define "on its network." Major systems, I can see this. A personal laptop? Not so much...
Time management. If you have a good process, a reinstall should take very little time. You could just use dpkg to reset all the configuration files as well, and that might work too. It is just which is easier. I usually just install each version fresh on my laptops. Less leftover cruft that way, and only slightly more time investment. However, my desktop has been upgraded for several versions.
When you upgrade major systems, there is a risk. At least with the breaks at distribution levels, you have some warning. And with a good system, a reinstall doesn't take much more time than an upgrade.