Shaded and animated menus are not activated unless you select in KPersonalizer the highest eye-candy level. And neither fish, cpu display, network monitor nor timezone applet are default in KDE, they must be your distribution's defaults.
> In Mozilla, you can middle click to open in a new tab. Is there anyway to do this in Konq?
It's an option unter Web Behavior/Tabbed Browsing "Open links in new tab instead of in new window". Or press Ctrl while left-clicking a link if you want to keep middle mouse button for new window.
> Are thene any good sites on KDE tips?
http://kde.ground.cz has a tip page
> Is there anyway to soften KDE widgets, maybe round off the corners a little, etc?
> Enterprise + support comes to near as dammit $3000,
You are sure everyone needs the Enterprise edition? By taking the most expensive product and obmitting the Professional version you're lying. Also the $1550 (or $2500 for Enterprise edition) includes one year of support and maintainance. So it's $2000 for two years support and maintainance for Professional Edition (or $3270 Enterprise) and not $3000 per annum as you say!
> Random? I think not... now who is telling lies.
I can expose more of your points if it interests anyone. Such as the stupid stuff that China has committed to deploy nearly 200 million GNOME desktops.
> Largo has already dumped KDE. It never made a big effort except to run some trials... no links yet.
You say "costing $3000* for every developer", it's 1550$. You say "10 developers: $30,000", true is $14100. You say "If you want to develop for the Mac, Linux and Windows the amount reaches a staggering $6000 per developer.", true is $3320.
> and every point raised has been addressed.
Let's test it with some random points: Proof for City of Largo switching to (rather than evaluating) GNOME? Or let's pick "Nat Friedman is currently in charge of desktop development at Novell/Ximian/SUSE" - http://dot.kde.org/1076022020/ lists recent SUSE press releases telling the opposite.
> Is QT so much better that all companies are willing to pay for QT for the next decade rather than assist GNU with improving GTK+?
Sure. And additionally you get support. Where do you get commercial support for GTK+?
> Or was Adobe prototyping a new program they needed because every digital camera comes with one and they might lose marketshare, some developer used QT for the prototype
Want to troll? What prototype? And do you think of the second version of Album as prototype too? Maybe they choose Qt because it allows quick development. I fail to see this as point which speaks against Qt.
> Can I sell programs based on QT without giving Trolltech money? Is there a good business justification for giving Trolltech some of my profits?
It's a per developer fee. You can distribute how and how many you want and Trolltech doesn't see a cent of your profits.
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After 14 hours you should have some minutes left for prelinking.
Developers' time is limited. And reports can get lost under a pile of over 5700 other bug reports. That's why there is a need for such a team.
KDE Usability Process Strenghtened
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> among other things like kwifi not even being compilable
Did you complain about it before it was released?
Because Trolltech cooperated with Caldera and Canopy wanted to support/ensure Trolltech to be able to continue the work?
Once KDE 3.1.5 makes it into testing, 3.2 will go into unstable. See KDE 3.1.5/3.2 Status Update - 20040219 and Information about Debian KDE packages
Shaded and animated menus are not activated unless you select in KPersonalizer the highest eye-candy level. And neither fish, cpu display, network monitor nor timezone applet are default in KDE, they must be your distribution's defaults.
Expect KDE 3.2.1 to be released in two weeks, the changelog is still incomplete but growing till then.
The only argument you gave says that GTK was ahead of Qt in internationalization. Anything confirming that it still is ahead?
> There's even a thread by the konq devs talking about how nice the spatial nautilus is and how they want to do something similar.
Can you please provide a link?
Forget GARNOME, there is neither a version for the latest stable nor the latest unstable GNOME release available.
> In Mozilla, you can middle click to open in a new tab. Is there anyway to do this in Konq?
It's an option unter Web Behavior/Tabbed Browsing "Open links in new tab instead of in new window". Or press Ctrl while left-clicking a link if you want to keep middle mouse button for new window.
> Are thene any good sites on KDE tips?
http://kde.ground.cz has a tip page
> Is there anyway to soften KDE widgets, maybe round off the corners a little, etc?
Use another style, http://kde-look.org
Don't forget the hidden hover tab close buttons feature explained at on this KDE Wiki page.
This should read "have been available in earlier versions for KDE as well" to be correct.
You are sure everyone needs the Enterprise edition? By taking the most expensive product and obmitting the Professional version you're lying. Also the $1550 (or $2500 for Enterprise edition) includes one year of support and maintainance. So it's $2000 for two years support and maintainance for Professional Edition (or $3270 Enterprise) and not $3000 per annum as you say!
> Random? I think not... now who is telling lies.
I can expose more of your points if it interests anyone. Such as the stupid stuff that China has committed to deploy nearly 200 million GNOME desktops.
> Largo has already dumped KDE. It never made a big effort except to run some trials... no links yet.
So it's an unproven claim with the project manager telling the opposite on Newsforge.
> Nat Friedman is still in charge of desktop development.
Reference? Something better than an old Slashdot comment of him before SUSE aquisition?
> All desktop development is under the control of Ximian.
Someone then must have forgotten to tell the SUSE employees who're are still working on KDE. ;-)
You say "costing $3000* for every developer", it's 1550$. You say "10 developers: $30,000", true is $14100. You say "If you want to develop for the Mac, Linux and Windows the amount reaches a staggering $6000 per developer.", true is $3320.
> and every point raised has been addressed.
Let's test it with some random points: Proof for City of Largo switching to (rather than evaluating) GNOME? Or let's pick "Nat Friedman is currently in charge of desktop development at Novell/Ximian/SUSE" - http://dot.kde.org/1076022020/ lists recent SUSE press releases telling the opposite.
> $Revision: 1.51 $ $Date: 2004/2/6 14:22:15 $
Don't pretend that this is accurate or up-to-date. You have been pointed several times at wrong facts, like the Qt pricing, and didn't correct it.
Juk was by packager error not included in first Fedora rpms.
http://kde.oregonstate.edu/
http://www.at.kde.org
http://kde.pandmservices.com/
http://kde.typhon.net/
http://www.se.kde.org/
http://kde.fredan.org/
The KDE Wiki links to several screenshot galleries.
> Include KDElibs and Qt, and people can still run their KDE-apps.
And this is prevented by Bruce. Look forward to huge applications coming with static Qt library each.
> 2. Give money to Trolltech for the priviledge of selling software to be used on KDE.
Wrong, you give money to Trolltech for the priviledge of developing close-sourced Qt-based software. It's a per developer license.
> Is QT so much better that all companies are willing to pay for QT for the next decade rather than assist GNU with improving GTK+?
Sure. And additionally you get support. Where do you get commercial support for GTK+?
> Or was Adobe prototyping a new program they needed because every digital camera comes with one and they might lose marketshare, some developer used QT for the prototype
Want to troll? What prototype? And do you think of the second version of Album as prototype too? Maybe they choose Qt because it allows quick development. I fail to see this as point which speaks against Qt.
> Can I sell programs based on QT without giving Trolltech money? Is there a good business justification for giving Trolltech some of my profits?
It's a per developer fee. You can distribute how and how many you want and Trolltech doesn't see a cent of your profits.
> it's progressing more slowly because a lot of things get tweaked and fixed before developers move on to much requested new features.
;-)
That's the funniest argumentation why a new file selector has been delayed for three releases I have read so far.
Adobe would never base a product on Qt? Keep on dreaming.