There are no Ximian setup tools anymore, Ximian dropped them and they were renamed to Gnome System Tools. And there is no support for current Debian and Fedora releases.
> They are not the ones being sponsored by SUN, GNOME is. Their annual budget for the year 2002 was a little over $1800, and for 2003 a little over $7600
December brought a little more for this year, but from the signature of a known KDE developer: "We're not a company, we just produce better code at less costs."
It has to do with Qt3 introducing a new style system (which allows Qt application like Opera to use "KDE styles"). KDE2's "legacy style" was simply never ported.
Seems like you will be able to choose for the next major OpenOffice version whether you want a Gtk2 or a Qt/KDE version. And guess which will have the higher integration into its desktop.:-)
> While KDE isn't technically closed, it seems to me that they still hold themselves more financially accountable to the closed software model of doing business.
Any examples to help me understand what you mean please?
> GNOME is generally quite good about keeping their release schedules.
And bad at delivering promised features within. "New fileselector in GNOME 2.0. Sorry, will be in 2.2. Again sorry, perhaps 2.4. Damn, but 2.6 finally!"
> You'll also cut out the massive number of Qt-based commercial apps that already exist from companies like Adobe, Opera, Samsung and lots of others listed in this comment.
This is not entirely true, you will see the shipping start of big static Qt linked packages like Opera is available today as static version. Let's not talk about load times, memory usage, etc.;-(
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Eh - forget about the year figure match. It's 2004 of course.
Good news two days before 03.02.2003 - the release day of KDE 3.2.0 :-)
TurboLinux contains GNOME. And the K in Knoppix stands for Knopper.
http://kde.ground.cz/tiki-index.php?page=Screensho ts
See "the status of KDE mirrors" to find a fresh one.
Perhaps Photoshop Album was ported internally, but was it ever available for purchase?
There are no Ximian setup tools anymore, Ximian dropped them and they were renamed to Gnome System Tools. And there is no support for current Debian and Fedora releases.
But GNOME doesn't run native on OSX, read it needs an X-Server.
KDE falling behind? KDE abusing GNOME? Are you on crack?
And about lies, there are more about KDE even requiring an own site to disprove them.
How do you want to change a closed sourced GTK app? :-)
> 1) KDE Libs are gpl
Wrong, they are LGPL.
> They are not the ones being sponsored by SUN, GNOME is. Their annual budget for the year 2002 was a little over $1800, and for 2003 a little over $7600
December brought a little more for this year, but from the signature of a known KDE developer: "We're not a company, we just produce better code at less costs."
And Apple is a Microsoft company. Learn something about research, share amounts and who controls a company.
It has to do with Qt3 introducing a new style system (which allows Qt application like Opera to use "KDE styles"). KDE2's "legacy style" was simply never ported.
Seems like you will be able to choose for the next major OpenOffice version whether you want a Gtk2 or a Qt/KDE version. And guess which will have the higher integration into its desktop. :-)
> the GNOME framework on the other hand, is the perfect manifestation of good, clean
Good and clean as in "three different HTML rendering engines" starting with GNOME 2.6?
> Not to mention that GNOME is GNU and therefore free, which QT is a propertiary licence.
Since when is the GPL propretiary?
> While KDE isn't technically closed, it seems to me that they still hold themselves more financially accountable to the closed software model of doing business.
Any examples to help me understand what you mean please?
You don't understand the difference between a style engine and a default style.
You would be surprised if you knew how few commercial sponsoring KDE actually gets.
> many people find it hard to take seriously a desktop environment with a default girly pastel-colored look
And I have thought with an one million dollar budget there would be some dollars included to switch the widget style.
> GNOME is generally quite good about keeping their release schedules.
And bad at delivering promised features within. "New fileselector in GNOME 2.0. Sorry, will be in 2.2. Again sorry, perhaps 2.4. Damn, but 2.6 finally!"
> You'll also cut out the massive number of Qt-based commercial apps that already exist from companies like Adobe, Opera, Samsung and lots of others listed in this comment.
;-(
This is not entirely true, you will see the shipping start of big static Qt linked packages like Opera is available today as static version. Let's not talk about load times, memory usage, etc.
3) is wrong, KDE has no real support for tear off menus.
> Remember that there are people in this world who refuse to use 'make xconfig' in kernel 2.6 because it's Qt-based
Funny. "No, I want to configure my GPL kernel with a LGPL based tool!" Sad.
> Yeah, Gconf is *so* superior. I always miss the registry when I'm away from Windows, too.
At least the Windows registry editor has a search function.