Wel, their brains were bigger than ours(altho in this instance size doesn't matter that much) and their sceletons give us a pretty good idea about muscle distribution and facial expression.
Surprisingly Hollywood depictions turn out to be unscientific.
When the "specimen" is a sentient being then suddenly "ethics" enter the equation. We'd need to resolve those first.
Since the definition of "ethics" is basically "something that can't be resolved or defined" I think we bought us another 30k years.
If this actually happens, I hope that the kid beats the living shit out of the asshole who wanted him for a lab animal.
-jcr
This usually involves burning windmills and crowds who can get their hands on pitchforks and torches.
But from a scientific point of view it would be a TRIUMPH!
Does the article say if he also plans to clone a bride for him?
Actually if you put a Neanderthal into a suit(or better tshirt and jeans) he wouldn't stand out too much in a crowd.
Unless of course you overdo it with the novelty hats...
They also make great submarines. They have a snorkel.
But mammoths would be better. Their fur is bound to be messing with SONAR.
We could station THOUSANDS of submerged mammoths in the Baltic Sea as nuclear launchpads!
...or they were actually decent and genuinely nice people.
Let me be the first to introduce a new concept into the theory of evolution: the survival of the utter bastards.
Well, now that Morgan Freeman explained to me why it is a bad idea I do COMPLETELY understand what's going on.
But isn't it already too late when he shows up? Are we already doomed? Morgan? Could you please explain?
Also, mammoths and neanderthals cloning filling in the gaps with frog DNA are bound to be a bit....off.
I don't want no big woolly elephants jumping around underneath my window. Also their snatching up Neanderthals using their long tongues could become an issue. Neanderthals sitting on lillypads on the other hands would be a great attraction for public parks.
We also have pockets of Neanderthals in the south.
Reports of their extinction are wildly exaggerated.
Couldn' we just clone something that is ACTUALLY extinct? Just the other day I read the common pubic louse is about to go extinct. Something to do with Brazilian landing strips. I knew they shouldn't have cut down the rain forest.
Couldn't we just clone Brigitte Bardot? Our current supply is running out.
And they are easier ont the tarmac(and the eyes) than a mammoth.
Also, don't moths eat socks? I don't want woolly elephants sitting in my closet munching on my socks.
...besides, what's the scientific value of such an undertaking?
If somebody ACTUALLY wanted to study Neanderthals he'd just have to go to a television network. They have loads of them and plenty to spare.
And since that also tends to be the typical hangout of Sir Richard Attenborough you wouldn't need to bring your own. Instant Neanderthal research and documentary.
I agree on AJAX. If you want to use AJAX and do everything from scratch and you don't use a framework that already supports it then you are facing much more effort than doing the whole thing as a proper fat client/server solution. If you need a lot of AJAX then you should take a long hard look if your thing really should be a browser based application. It definitely is an indicator for such considerations.
Now we have a few sane JavaScript libraries and most MVC web frameworks support AJAX. It's not as big a hassle as it used to be. It's moving out of the "dirty hack" phase into "we have a couple of standards and tools".
The problem I have with relying on any browser plugins are these:
-another piece of framework needed which increases architectural complexety(another thing I need to deal with and another thing to break)
-availability on the client machines
-reduces the ability to run scripted tests against the whole system(as opposed to unit tests)
These past few years I have been reducing the number of dependencies on 3rd party libraries and frameworks. Architectural complexity went down. Testability went up. Code quality went up. Productivity went up. Overtime is very close to zero.
I can't comment on JavaFX 2 since it's been a while since I last had the opportunity to take a look at it. ATM I'm rather looking into(read: got my company to buy me the latest shiniest toys) App development for tablets since our customers are asking for it. That's gonna be a whole new beast(unrelyabe network connection; deployment difficulties...). Also there is some HTML5 looming in the near future. But our clients just migrated away from IE6 to IE8 so...not that urgent.
The dot.com bubble called. They want their Applets back.
Whoever still uses Java Applets in 2013 should have a very good explanation for his doings. We stopped using them 10 years ago.
I also fail to see how Java applets running in a web browser in any way relate to server-side code?
Swing actually has a quite nice API. I've seen worse. Of course it got a bad reputation after legions of hobby-grade developers failed to use threads for heavy lifting and instead did everything in the render thread.
I can write bad code in any language. There are many good reasons -a lot, actually- to not use Java client-side. Swing is not neccessarily one of them.
Oh wow. then he should have used a JSF 2.0 implementation. On top of Tomcat...good luck with that.
Clueless test is clueless. Comparing Apple to Al Quaida to give management advice to system architects..
Technology most commonly is used by what the corporate standard is.
If there isn't one then you choose what your devs are most familiar with.
If you aren't fettered by considerations as these then you choose the plattform with the least cost attached to. Which bloody well isn't anything.NET.
Oracle had the misfortune to acquire Java and all tech attached after the hippies at Sun decided to have an open plattform. It's amazing what you have to pay for when using C# as compared to Java or Perl. The server side open-source community isn't behind.NET. Apache springs to mind.
If performance is your main concern THEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE WHOLE THING and measure where in your application you spend the most time. Do you spend too much time in the database? Do you lose too much time during network connects? Does your streaming performance not live up to scratch? Yep, these are real world issues.
What a waste of everybody's time!
The price difference may be due to VAT which tends to be very high in the EU. Around 20%, actually.
In some countries it may be that iStuff can be sold at reduced VAT but it is highly unlikely.
Of course the petition was a joke.
Build a Death star to blow up planets is hardly money well spent.
They should obviously build Dark Star! Much cheaper and we get to send our morons into space on something similar like the B Ark.
Sorry, Talby, Boiler, Pinback and Doolittle. You guys suck.
When I buy a device that's running Windows I want to be able to run the stuff on it I already own. I'm not interested in repurchasing everything again.
It is a completely separate eco system. And I'm already invested in Android.
Also reviews and product tech specs are often done so lazily you can't even be sure which one of these are running on the device. I predict lots of returns by confused customers.
I'm actually interested in a Tablet PC ecause I'd ike to run windows binaries on that form factor without recompiling myself. Which I can't.
But every tablet device is advertised and reviewed so lazily that it is hard to tell if it is runing Windows 8 or RT. RT is a whole new eco system to invest in. Currently I'm running Android, Windows and Linux. I do not want another OS in my life.
This RT/non RT thing will confuse people for another few years. How would you market a 10" super thin tablet with 8hrs+ battery life and x86 architecture running Windows 8? How would you distinguish it from the hordes of Windows RT devices?
The name "Windows" has become diluted beyond belief. This has to be the most bone-headed marketing move ever.
Why is Chrome on Android so much worse than Opera Mobile.
I'm actually at a point where I would be willing to pay Opera for its browser even though I manage to crash it every once in a while.
How long will it take for Firefox on Android to be worthwhile using? Checked 1.5 years ago. Rechecked a couple of weeks ago. There's been definite progress but it still has a long way ahead.
I've got a PS3 controller connected to my tablet so I never tried that.
I'm personally hoping for Giana Sisters: Twisted Dreams to be ported to Android. Obviously it wouldn't have the DX11 fidelity(which is gorgeous beyond measurement) but I wouldn't care. Some things I am perfectly willing to pay for twice.
Also Grimrock? Pretty please? You mad Finn, stop boozing and port it already! Take my money, PLEASE!
We already have a very competent Bard's Tale port, why not this?
I repeat myself: there has been support for Bluetooth/USB connected gamepads since at least Android 4.0. Possibly honeycomb. If it works under Windows without a driver, it will work on Android. Not sure about the 2.2 batch. But who wants to have that on a tablet anyway.
You pair an Android tablet with a PS3 controller by connecting it via USB once. Paired via Bluetooth forever. Couldn't be simpler. I personally prefer 360 controllers, but a PS3 controller fits better in my geek manbag.
Wel, their brains were bigger than ours(altho in this instance size doesn't matter that much) and their sceletons give us a pretty good idea about muscle distribution and facial expression.
Surprisingly Hollywood depictions turn out to be unscientific.
Yes, I'm shocked, too.
...they'd need to breed an aweful lot of them to start a Neanderthal Rights Movement.
A crowd of one is bound to be treated badly.
Remember: we are the vicious bastards that didn't go extinct...
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When the "specimen" is a sentient being then suddenly "ethics" enter the equation. We'd need to resolve those first.
Since the definition of "ethics" is basically "something that can't be resolved or defined" I think we bought us another 30k years.
There. Job done. Splendid. Another cup of tea?
If this actually happens, I hope that the kid beats the living shit out of the asshole who wanted him for a lab animal.
-jcr
This usually involves burning windmills and crowds who can get their hands on pitchforks and torches.
But from a scientific point of view it would be a TRIUMPH!
Does the article say if he also plans to clone a bride for him?
Actually if you put a Neanderthal into a suit(or better tshirt and jeans) he wouldn't stand out too much in a crowd.
Unless of course you overdo it with the novelty hats...
They also make great submarines. They have a snorkel.
But mammoths would be better. Their fur is bound to be messing with SONAR.
We could station THOUSANDS of submerged mammoths in the Baltic Sea as nuclear launchpads!
...or they were actually decent and genuinely nice people.
Let me be the first to introduce a new concept into the theory of evolution: the survival of the utter bastards.
Well, now that Morgan Freeman explained to me why it is a bad idea I do COMPLETELY understand what's going on.
But isn't it already too late when he shows up? Are we already doomed? Morgan? Could you please explain?
Also, mammoths and neanderthals cloning filling in the gaps with frog DNA are bound to be a bit....off.
I don't want no big woolly elephants jumping around underneath my window. Also their snatching up Neanderthals using their long tongues could become an issue.
Neanderthals sitting on lillypads on the other hands would be a great attraction for public parks.
We also have pockets of Neanderthals in the south.
Reports of their extinction are wildly exaggerated.
Couldn' we just clone something that is ACTUALLY extinct? Just the other day I read the common pubic louse is about to go extinct. Something to do with Brazilian landing strips. I knew they shouldn't have cut down the rain forest.
Couldn't we just clone Brigitte Bardot? Our current supply is running out.
And they are easier ont the tarmac(and the eyes) than a mammoth.
Also, don't moths eat socks? I don't want woolly elephants sitting in my closet munching on my socks.
...besides, what's the scientific value of such an undertaking?
If somebody ACTUALLY wanted to study Neanderthals he'd just have to go to a television network. They have loads of them and plenty to spare.
And since that also tends to be the typical hangout of Sir Richard Attenborough you wouldn't need to bring your own.
Instant Neanderthal research and documentary.
I agree on AJAX. If you want to use AJAX and do everything from scratch and you don't use a framework that already supports it then you are facing much more effort than doing the whole thing as a proper fat client/server solution. If you need a lot of AJAX then you should take a long hard look if your thing really should be a browser based application. It definitely is an indicator for such considerations.
Now we have a few sane JavaScript libraries and most MVC web frameworks support AJAX. It's not as big a hassle as it used to be. It's moving out of the "dirty hack" phase into "we have a couple of standards and tools".
The problem I have with relying on any browser plugins are these:
-another piece of framework needed which increases architectural complexety(another thing I need to deal with and another thing to break)
-availability on the client machines
-reduces the ability to run scripted tests against the whole system(as opposed to unit tests)
These past few years I have been reducing the number of dependencies on 3rd party libraries and frameworks. Architectural complexity went down. Testability went up. Code quality went up. Productivity went up. Overtime is very close to zero.
I can't comment on JavaFX 2 since it's been a while since I last had the opportunity to take a look at it. ATM I'm rather looking into(read: got my company to buy me the latest shiniest toys) App development for tablets since our customers are asking for it. That's gonna be a whole new beast(unrelyabe network connection; deployment difficulties...). Also there is some HTML5 looming in the near future. But our clients just migrated away from IE6 to IE8 so...not that urgent.
The dot.com bubble called. They want their Applets back.
Whoever still uses Java Applets in 2013 should have a very good explanation for his doings. We stopped using them 10 years ago.
I also fail to see how Java applets running in a web browser in any way relate to server-side code?
Swing actually has a quite nice API. I've seen worse. Of course it got a bad reputation after legions of hobby-grade developers failed to use threads for heavy lifting and instead did everything in the render thread.
I can write bad code in any language. There are many good reasons -a lot, actually- to not use Java client-side. Swing is not neccessarily one of them.
Oh wow. then he should have used a JSF 2.0 implementation. On top of Tomcat...good luck with that.
.NET. .NET. Apache springs to mind.
Clueless test is clueless. Comparing Apple to Al Quaida to give management advice to system architects..
Technology most commonly is used by what the corporate standard is.
If there isn't one then you choose what your devs are most familiar with.
If you aren't fettered by considerations as these then you choose the plattform with the least cost attached to. Which bloody well isn't anything
Oracle had the misfortune to acquire Java and all tech attached after the hippies at Sun decided to have an open plattform. It's amazing what you have to pay for when using C# as compared to Java or Perl. The server side open-source community isn't behind
If performance is your main concern THEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE WHOLE THING and measure where in your application you spend the most time. Do you spend too much time in the database? Do you lose too much time during network connects? Does your streaming performance not live up to scratch? Yep, these are real world issues.
What a waste of everybody's time!
...or the 20% VAT in Europe. That would be the sane explanation...
The price difference may be due to VAT which tends to be very high in the EU. Around 20%, actually.
In some countries it may be that iStuff can be sold at reduced VAT but it is highly unlikely.
Next petition:
I can has Dark Star?
Of course the petition was a joke.
Build a Death star to blow up planets is hardly money well spent.
They should obviously build Dark Star! Much cheaper and we get to send our morons into space on something similar like the B Ark.
Sorry, Talby, Boiler, Pinback and Doolittle. You guys suck.
Yep. This is beyond idiotic.
When I buy a device that's running Windows I want to be able to run the stuff on it I already own. I'm not interested in repurchasing everything again.
It is a completely separate eco system. And I'm already invested in Android.
Also reviews and product tech specs are often done so lazily you can't even be sure which one of these are running on the device. I predict lots of returns by confused customers.
Windows RT is anything but clear
I'm actually interested in a Tablet PC ecause I'd ike to run windows binaries on that form factor without recompiling myself. Which I can't.
But every tablet device is advertised and reviewed so lazily that it is hard to tell if it is runing Windows 8 or RT. RT is a whole new eco system to invest in. Currently I'm running Android, Windows and Linux. I do not want another OS in my life.
This RT/non RT thing will confuse people for another few years. How would you market a 10" super thin tablet with 8hrs+ battery life and x86 architecture running Windows 8? How would you distinguish it from the hordes of Windows RT devices?
The name "Windows" has become diluted beyond belief. This has to be the most bone-headed marketing move ever.
Why is Chrome on Android so much worse than Opera Mobile.
I'm actually at a point where I would be willing to pay Opera for its browser even though I manage to crash it every once in a while.
How long will it take for Firefox on Android to be worthwhile using? Checked 1.5 years ago. Rechecked a couple of weeks ago. There's been definite progress but it still has a long way ahead.
I've got a PS3 controller connected to my tablet so I never tried that.
I'm personally hoping for Giana Sisters: Twisted Dreams to be ported to Android. Obviously it wouldn't have the DX11 fidelity(which is gorgeous beyond measurement) but I wouldn't care. Some things I am perfectly willing to pay for twice.
Also Grimrock? Pretty please? You mad Finn, stop boozing and port it already! Take my money, PLEASE!
We already have a very competent Bard's Tale port, why not this?
I repeat myself: there has been support for Bluetooth/USB connected gamepads since at least Android 4.0. Possibly honeycomb. If it works under Windows without a driver, it will work on Android. Not sure about the 2.2 batch. But who wants to have that on a tablet anyway. You pair an Android tablet with a PS3 controller by connecting it via USB once. Paired via Bluetooth forever. Couldn't be simpler. I personally prefer 360 controllers, but a PS3 controller fits better in my geek manbag.