Apple is not overpriced. You get what you pay for. It's pretty expensive, but if you can pay the initial price, it should turn out to be less expensive over the years. This does put a brake to most people's way of buying a computer - going for the lowest price and then upgrading it gradually - but there are excellent loan conditions.
If - and that's the only way of looking at it - if you want to buy a mac, you'll find there are ways, and in the end you'll be saving both money and time.
You might even come to like it. It's not for nothing that people so enthousiastically defend their macs, and no, it's not because of Jobs, I mean, look at the guy... (ohmygodwhatdidIsay-gottaconfessnow!)
You are seriously mental if your choice to purchase an Apple over a PC considers percentages in processor performance.
True, but who said that when Apple was sloooooow?
The main reasons for buying Apple are imo ease of use, stability, good software (even games, but not always the coolest - think Keeper 2), speed (measured in what you get done in real work instead of coaxing your computer) and maybe even coolness if I am honest.
And now raw processor speed - if not ever a real argument - at least isn't a deterrent anymore.
I don't know, some people enjoy goofing around, installing this and that, soldering their computer to pieces, attaching freezers to dangerously overclocked processors...
If you fall into that category, nothing you - aptly - stated applies.
And then getting OS X to run on a slow, non-babtized-build-your-own-and-run-whatever-you-l ike-as-long-as-it's-obscure machine suddenly makes sense, kind of, erm...
Know a guy who's always tinkering with everything, his macs and pc's are always in a state of undress, very erotic.
The flamebait we're talking about is a complete hoax. It's sent every time an Apple topic is posted on \.
What it describes is plainly not possible, his post is full of inconsistencies. This mail is posted in exact same form about a 100 times. Do you really think it's True then? Even if what he's trying to sell here is not possible?
the only thing he changes once in a while is the type of machine he's supposedly using. Now it's a Dual G5 1.6 Mhz.
Problem is: there is no such thing as a DUAL G5 1.6. I repeat: not only is he describing stuff that's impossible, he's also doing it on a NON EXISTING machine.
Every time this gets posted, it's followed by a very *funny* mail from a catholic priest saying how glad he is that he's bought a mac and is now officially a member of the gay brotherhood. He's very glad he can use his mac to "convert" little boys. That very funny mail is then "answered" by a mail from Apple encouraging the priest. This is soooo very funny and colorful, especially after the 40th time.
You see? It's flamebait, lies, stupidity squared. It's not even remotely funny, given the fact that people like you are totally convinced after seeing us flame that guy for the 100th time that those mac guys/grrls are just a bunch of touchy daffodils.
There's some really really weird mindsets in the anti-mac camp.
I like reading the funnies when browsing \. but this kind of crap forces you to read with rating 3+
I'd rather they'd put their time in writing a nice mac virus and be done with it. Would give us about 6 months respite of the gay mail and no more inconvenience than installing a patch once they're done.
There's Apple the legend and there's Apple the reality.
In reality afaic it's the better computer. In legend it never crashes, is 100% secure, has all the games and compatibility is never an issue.
To be frank, it comes close to it's legendary status: it *almost* never crashes, and I think I've only seen that cool translucent crash-screen once. I haven't had one single virus in two or three years, don't really remember, I play QuakeIII TA and RTCWolfenstein, and compatibility is close to no issue. If only I could play Keeper2...
IMO you've pretty much answered your own question.
My guess is that Apple and MS don't want just anybody to change the trashcan into a goldfish... they've got enough trouble keeping the learning curve low without their helpdesks trying to second-guess the shape of your trashcan.
True story: my father in law frequently calls me for "tech support". I've been trying to get him to call a window a window for two years now, instead of "this square"...
Anybody who falls into your "the rest of us" category can change whatever they like. You can make your windows machine look like OS X if you like and *urghnnn* your mac look like windows (have to shower now, have to shower now)
If you have distributed a piece of code under the GPL that's currently distributed by SCO:
- write a letter asking SCO if they respect the GPL re the use of your code.
- organize a press conference for the occasion.
It's as simple as that. Is this grown up behaviour? No, but it
1) is completely legal;
2) doesn't have any consequenses for you;
3) is a nice public display of the strength of GPL'd code;
4) could seriously embarras SCO even before they go to court;
5) doesn't weaken the position of the GPL in the least.
I presume there are ways to limit the use of said code if they publicly state they don't respect the license it's distributed under.
And if SCO willingly disregards those limitations, it consequently could be taken up by interested parties with deeper pockets... but that's not the issue.
It is not about starting another lawsuit, but about making it public knowledge that Very Powerful Software(tm) is being produced under the GPL and that the same idiots who refute the GPL
can't possibly do what they do without it.
This advice is akin to: "want to know what a bacon sandwich tastes like? Take some cheese, put it on a sandwich and sort of erm that's it. You'll love it."
I imagine you can't get a taste of linux by installing Windows and changing the theme...
What's annoying about the G5? And come to think of it, what's useless or impractical about it?
I don't get it. So many posters state they hate/dislike/can't buy/won't buy/ apple products.
And then some people wonder why they're modded down? If you can't/won't use an apple or are offended by the G5, fine. I won't use a Linux desktop and get plenty of use out of my Unix desktop (OS X).
You interested in that? No? Thought so.
That's right, all my life, I wanted to "belong" and I need a Mac for that. There, now go out and smell the roses while "we" go on belonging.
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Well, it's like this: the mod system is here to pull interesting posts up and uninteresting ones down. If I go to the BSD section and post stuff like "Can't be bothered", "really don't care" "Interesting, but not for me", I get modded down.
Why? Nobody gives a shit.
If you go to the mac section to just say "bloody hell, that's expensive", then I say "I don't give a shit".
Not that I'm rich, but the times we've been over the high pricetag versus low maintenance issues...
Incidentally this also goes for "You're a faggot", "I hate mac", "Die Jobs, DIE DIE DIE" and the obligatory "verisign is lying", "macs are still slow", "windows/linux rules",
Everybody is entitled to his opinion, but you'll have a hard time making me care for statements like that.
Thus if I have the opportunity, I'll mod that sh*t down, regardless of how nice the guy/grrl is and will mod something enlightning up (even if it incidentally bashes the Mac. If it's interesting, it's interesting).
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If you're into the most popular titles (quake, doom, rtcw, unreal) a G5 is as good a buy as any highly optimized (and prized) gaming machine...
And btw Nvidia Gforce cards are standard on the G51.6 and 1.8Ghz.
Apple is not overpriced. You get what you pay for. It's pretty expensive, but if you can pay the initial price, it should turn out to be less expensive over the years. This does put a brake to most people's way of buying a computer - going for the lowest price and then upgrading it gradually - but there are excellent loan conditions.
If - and that's the only way of looking at it - if you want to buy a mac, you'll find there are ways, and in the end you'll be saving both money and time.
You might even come to like it. It's not for nothing that people so enthousiastically defend their macs, and no, it's not because of Jobs, I mean, look at the guy...
(ohmygodwhatdidIsay-gottaconfessnow!)
You are seriously mental if your choice to purchase an Apple over a PC considers percentages in processor performance.
True, but who said that when Apple was sloooooow?
The main reasons for buying Apple are imo ease of use, stability, good software (even games, but not always the coolest - think Keeper 2), speed (measured in what you get done in real work instead of coaxing your computer) and maybe even coolness if I am honest.
And now raw processor speed - if not ever a real argument - at least isn't a deterrent anymore.
There you go.
I don't know, some people enjoy goofing around, installing this and that, soldering their computer to pieces, attaching freezers to dangerously overclocked processors ...
l ike-as-long-as-it's-obscure machine suddenly makes sense, kind of, erm...
If you fall into that category, nothing you - aptly - stated applies.
And then getting OS X to run on a slow, non-babtized-build-your-own-and-run-whatever-you-
Know a guy who's always tinkering with everything, his macs and pc's are always in a state of undress, very erotic.
Nope, they took away his iPod, and he consequently strangled himself with his firewire cable...
Just in case you *don't* know what's going on ...
The flamebait we're talking about is a complete hoax. It's sent every time an Apple topic is posted on \.
What it describes is plainly not possible, his post is full of inconsistencies.
This mail is posted in exact same form about a 100 times. Do you really think it's True then? Even if what he's trying to sell here is not possible?
the only thing he changes once in a while is the type of machine he's supposedly using. Now it's a Dual G5 1.6 Mhz.
Problem is: there is no such thing as a DUAL G5 1.6.
I repeat: not only is he describing stuff that's impossible, he's also doing it on a NON EXISTING machine.
Every time this gets posted, it's followed by a very *funny* mail from a catholic priest saying how glad he is that he's bought a mac and is now officially a member of the gay brotherhood. He's very glad he can use his mac to "convert" little boys. That very funny mail is then "answered" by a mail from Apple encouraging the priest. This is soooo very funny and colorful, especially after the 40th time.
You see? It's flamebait, lies, stupidity squared. It's not even remotely funny, given the fact that people like you are totally convinced after seeing us flame that guy for the 100th time that those mac guys/grrls are just a bunch of touchy daffodils.
Get it, got it? Good.
Now where are the "Mod Parent Up" requests?
Or hey, what about "Mac zealots modding alert"?
There's some really really weird mindsets in the anti-mac camp.
I like reading the funnies when browsing \. but this kind of crap forces you to read with rating 3+
I'd rather they'd put their time in writing a nice mac virus and be done with it. Would give us about 6 months respite of the gay mail and no more inconvenience than installing a patch once they're done.
Coming next: Father O Day...
This was actually really really funny me thinks. Let's promote another modding complaint rant and mod this all the way up ;-)
Unfortunately, none of those naive users browse this site.
Oh yes they do. Who do you think just modded you down?
(joke)
I have here one dollar. This dollar is mine.
Now obviously yours are mine as well.
Now stop bullying me and give me your money.
There's Apple the legend and there's Apple the reality.
In reality afaic it's the better computer. In legend it never crashes, is 100% secure, has all the games and compatibility is never an issue.
To be frank, it comes close to it's legendary status: it *almost* never crashes, and I think I've only seen that cool translucent crash-screen once. I haven't had one single virus in two or three years, don't really remember, I play QuakeIII TA and RTCWolfenstein, and compatibility is close to no issue. If only I could play Keeper2...
IMO you've pretty much answered your own question.
My guess is that Apple and MS don't want just anybody to change the trashcan into a goldfish... they've got enough trouble keeping the learning curve low without their helpdesks trying to second-guess the shape of your trashcan.
True story: my father in law frequently calls me for "tech support". I've been trying to get him to call a window a window for two years now, instead of "this square"...
Anybody who falls into your "the rest of us" category can change whatever they like. You can make your windows machine look like OS X if you like and *urghnnn* your mac look like windows (have to shower now, have to shower now)
Well, maybe they just copied the ease of use of the iSync...
Call me Troll on this one please...
The Translucent Screen of Death in MacOS X.2 is waaay cooler looking than Microsoft's current BSoD
Yeah, too bad I don't see it often...
If you have distributed a piece of code under the GPL that's currently distributed by SCO:
- write a letter asking SCO if they respect the GPL re the use of your code.
- organize a press conference for the occasion.
It's as simple as that. Is this grown up behaviour? No, but it
1) is completely legal;
2) doesn't have any consequenses for you;
3) is a nice public display of the strength of GPL'd code;
4) could seriously embarras SCO even before they go to court;
5) doesn't weaken the position of the GPL in the least.
I presume there are ways to limit the use of said code if they publicly state they don't respect the license it's distributed under.
And if SCO willingly disregards those limitations, it consequently could be taken up by interested parties with deeper pockets... but that's not the issue.
It is not about starting another lawsuit, but about making it public knowledge that Very Powerful Software(tm) is being produced under the GPL and that the same idiots who refute the GPL can't possibly do what they do without it.
That incidentally includes MS.
You've got more than a point here.
... every few posts kind of puts one on the defensive.
I guess getting called a faggot, loser, idiot, retard,
btw I'd not have modded my post up, it's close to redundant.
This advice is akin to: "want to know what a bacon sandwich tastes like? Take some cheese, put it on a sandwich and sort of erm that's it. You'll love it."
I imagine you can't get a taste of linux by installing Windows and changing the theme...
There's some pretty weird people out there. Copy/pasting the same old shit whenever someone uses the word "Mac".
Windows PR guys at least get paid, I wonder what these weirdo's get out of this.
"even the hardcore Windows fanatics I know admit the GUI is a mess."
Until you utter the word "Mac" that is...
How are we to know this is not flamebait?
...
You didn't use the words Steve and Holy in one sentence.
Be very careful
IMO the funniest "anti-mac" movie to date. Don't know anybody who shared his experience, but did make me laugh...
This post is intriguing.
What's annoying about the G5?
And come to think of it, what's useless or impractical about it?
I don't get it. So many posters state they hate/dislike/can't buy/won't buy/ apple products.
And then some people wonder why they're modded down?
If you can't/won't use an apple or are offended by the G5, fine. I won't use a Linux desktop and get plenty of use out of my Unix desktop (OS X).
You interested in that? No? Thought so.
That's right, all my life, I wanted to "belong" and I need a Mac for that. There, now go out and smell the roses while "we" go on belonging.
huh, black box?
Are you looking at a 80's NeXT machine?
It is a big mofo, definitely not your average desktop machine. Wonder how they'll fit those processors and fans in an iMac.
And we're all very happy for you.
Well, it's like this: the mod system is here to pull interesting posts up and uninteresting ones down. If I go to the BSD section and post stuff like "Can't be bothered", "really don't care" "Interesting, but not for me", I get modded down.
...
Why? Nobody gives a shit.
If you go to the mac section to just say "bloody hell, that's expensive", then I say "I don't give a shit".
Not that I'm rich, but the times we've been over the high pricetag versus low maintenance issues
Incidentally this also goes for "You're a faggot", "I hate mac", "Die Jobs, DIE DIE DIE" and the obligatory "verisign is lying", "macs are still slow", "windows/linux rules",
Everybody is entitled to his opinion, but you'll have a hard time making me care for statements like that.
Thus if I have the opportunity, I'll mod that sh*t down, regardless of how nice the guy/grrl is and will mod something enlightning up (even if it incidentally bashes the Mac. If it's interesting, it's interesting).