The map was hard enough with full power transmitters - adding 2x more low powers to fill in holes will be nuts to coordinate. Plus, with ATSC TV you can't just put up 'repeaters' on the same frequency - neither will be receivable at the overlap. At that point the 'fill in the bad spots' transmitters need to be on a separate channel, which means you'd have to scan your TV for new sources and could end up with 3-4 copies of the same station in your lineup. Full power DTV transmitters are in the $400-750k range, low powers in the $50-125k range. Double that to run line up a tower, assuming you don't have to build a tower itself.
Agreed. In fact, 99% of the people who fly drones don't fly them near airports. Doing so is criminally frigging stupid. But before I believe "Of course, a Phantom 3 will bring down an airliner" I want to see some testing - ANY testing.
LiPo's don't explode, they burn. They get very hot, smoke and the vapors ignite. Seeing as how they're built like a film capacitor, except without a metal shell they're less rigid than the plastic shell of a consumer drone.
Ooo - I wanna play this game too!
There are 3 categories of people who have the need to be armed wherever they go:
1) in need of a Penis Substitute
2) Rambo Fantasy
3) Criminals
Which are you?
And I will do the same as the child in the above story did : point to the asshat with the gun, loudly, and then get my family and myself out of the vicinity of said asshat who is playing Renegade. I have no right or desire to take your guns away from you Son - I just want to be the f*ck away from you while you play Dirty Harry.
"They were out looking for trouble". Thank goodness there was a Police officer there to provide it for them, and to execute them before that 'trouble' became even more 'troublesome'.
Thanks for the distortion of what I said.
The people who are proclaiming loudly that a hobby drone can bring down a plane are fabricating 'evidence'. Telling people 'drones can be a hazard' is accurate and prudent caution. HOWEVER, the Phantom series is 3+ years old now (my Phantom V2+ is almost 2 years old now) and yet no one has bothered to actually *test* one. I did some checking a few months ago at FAA bird strike data and found the bird vs plane tables showed it took a bird of almost 8-10 pounds to show any appreciable chance of aircraft damage. The DJI Phantom V2+ that I have is 2.2 pounds. Birds of *twice* that size showed, according to FAA data, to have a chance to do damage to aircraft of 0>10% when encountered. Polystyrene plastic and aluminum and a LiPo battery (that doesn't EXPLODE btw, but burn when shorted) is not the equivalent to Depleted Uranium slugs.
I'm all for proper rules and separation of real planes and models. But I won't stand still for manufactured bullshyt, and the assertion that it seems like every single goddamn 'pilot' makes that a toy drone *will* take down a plane is false until *some* kind of testing is done.
Anyone who actually uses a drone for any sort of photography (instead of "Here's how fast I can lose my $800 toy by standing on the UP button") knows the only decent pictures are taken from 200 feet. We have GoogleMaps to look at our neighborhoods with - but most of the interesting views are barely over the treetops or the power lines.
There seems to be a thriving industry in scaring the feces out of people (for profit, I assume). Drones are what we are supposed to worry about in the daytime, after worrying about ISIS coming after us in our beds at night.
The *moment* someone finally nuts up at a testing center and throws a Phantom 3 into a commercial jetliner engine, and it does *any* noticeable damage, then we can talk about how easily they will bring down a plane. At this point, with *NO* testing, these assertions come directly from the anal region.
Sensible rules, away from approach paths of airports, and limited to 500 ft outside of those areas, unless licensed to do so. If you can't manage to lift your plane above 500 feet away from the airport, you have problems that 'drones' have no effect over. Christ, planes buzz the 400' tower attached to my work - and the damn thing is painted red and white and blinks, FFS.
Perhaps he's one of the people that have tried Linux, and wasn't impressed. It *is* possible to decide that, and despite what the neckbeards of Slashdot proclaim it's a perfectly permissible personal decision. Either way, I suspect you'll be okay. If not, that's okay as well.
The only way to change anything, Oh Jaded One, is to not put up with the assholes. Let those managers constantly have to replace their staff until only the truly desperate and un-hireable elsewhere will work for them. Or you can just kick the dog everyday when you get home - it's your choice.
I never said I haven't worked for assholes. I said I'd rather not work for assholes, and I have left jobs for a lower paying one to get away from abusive assholes. Life's too short. And Linux coding is an unpaid job, is it not? Even less reason to put up with assholes.
To each his own, but all in all I'd rather not work for a douchebag. Even if he's a really talented douchebag, he's still a douchebag. Real managers supervise without being an asshole.
There's an easy solution to this problem. Enforce 1 mile out from approach and landing areas of all runways, otherwise your goddamn airplane should be minimum 1000 feet AGL at all other times. Set max altitude on RC aircraft to 500 feet unless licensed/prior approval/notification to FAA. Everyone has their own chunk of the sky. The days of private aircraft pilots owning the airspace from 1 foot to the troposphere are over. Share, ladies.
Look at how much easier it is to 'get home to your family' if you just shoot the other person if they so much as fart in your direction. Especially since you will not be punished for killing that person. Seriously, if you are that goddamn scared of everyone you encounter, and are that unable to even investigate before discharging your weapon, you have chosen the wrong line of work.
Absolute Bullshit. You have tested your helicopter with a 2 1/2 lb Phantom for damage? Post the results, or stop pulling 'facts' out of your nether regions.
I am all for reasonable regulations for drones, and I fly mine under 400 ft, away from crowded areas and far away from airport approach zones. By the same token, I expect private and commercial aircraft to stay the *F%$* above 500 feet unless taking off or landing. The road isn't just yours.
Buy a drone, fly it, *learn how it works*, then you can contribute seriously to this discussion.
No one is saying mistakes aren't being made by asshats flying drones. What is *being said is*, all drone fliers are asshats.
The outrage machine and paranoia industry are running at full throttle here, and I want to know exactly who stands to profit from all drones being grounded.
Slashdot Mirror
The Donald Trump of software developers.
The map was hard enough with full power transmitters - adding 2x more low powers to fill in holes will be nuts to coordinate. Plus, with ATSC TV you can't just put up 'repeaters' on the same frequency - neither will be receivable at the overlap. At that point the 'fill in the bad spots' transmitters need to be on a separate channel, which means you'd have to scan your TV for new sources and could end up with 3-4 copies of the same station in your lineup. Full power DTV transmitters are in the $400-750k range, low powers in the $50-125k range. Double that to run line up a tower, assuming you don't have to build a tower itself.
Agreed. In fact, 99% of the people who fly drones don't fly them near airports. Doing so is criminally frigging stupid. But before I believe "Of course, a Phantom 3 will bring down an airliner" I want to see some testing - ANY testing.
LiPo's don't explode, they burn. They get very hot, smoke and the vapors ignite. Seeing as how they're built like a film capacitor, except without a metal shell they're less rigid than the plastic shell of a consumer drone.
Ooo - I wanna play this game too! There are 3 categories of people who have the need to be armed wherever they go: 1) in need of a Penis Substitute 2) Rambo Fantasy 3) Criminals Which are you?
Speaking of people out looking for trouble
And I will do the same as the child in the above story did : point to the asshat with the gun, loudly, and then get my family and myself out of the vicinity of said asshat who is playing Renegade. I have no right or desire to take your guns away from you Son - I just want to be the f*ck away from you while you play Dirty Harry.
"They were out looking for trouble". Thank goodness there was a Police officer there to provide it for them, and to execute them before that 'trouble' became even more 'troublesome'.
If she hadn't worn that damn short skirt
Thanks for the distortion of what I said. The people who are proclaiming loudly that a hobby drone can bring down a plane are fabricating 'evidence'. Telling people 'drones can be a hazard' is accurate and prudent caution. HOWEVER, the Phantom series is 3+ years old now (my Phantom V2+ is almost 2 years old now) and yet no one has bothered to actually *test* one. I did some checking a few months ago at FAA bird strike data and found the bird vs plane tables showed it took a bird of almost 8-10 pounds to show any appreciable chance of aircraft damage. The DJI Phantom V2+ that I have is 2.2 pounds. Birds of *twice* that size showed, according to FAA data, to have a chance to do damage to aircraft of 0>10% when encountered. Polystyrene plastic and aluminum and a LiPo battery (that doesn't EXPLODE btw, but burn when shorted) is not the equivalent to Depleted Uranium slugs. I'm all for proper rules and separation of real planes and models. But I won't stand still for manufactured bullshyt, and the assertion that it seems like every single goddamn 'pilot' makes that a toy drone *will* take down a plane is false until *some* kind of testing is done.
Anyone who actually uses a drone for any sort of photography (instead of "Here's how fast I can lose my $800 toy by standing on the UP button") knows the only decent pictures are taken from 200 feet. We have GoogleMaps to look at our neighborhoods with - but most of the interesting views are barely over the treetops or the power lines.
There seems to be a thriving industry in scaring the feces out of people (for profit, I assume). Drones are what we are supposed to worry about in the daytime, after worrying about ISIS coming after us in our beds at night.
The *moment* someone finally nuts up at a testing center and throws a Phantom 3 into a commercial jetliner engine, and it does *any* noticeable damage, then we can talk about how easily they will bring down a plane. At this point, with *NO* testing, these assertions come directly from the anal region. Sensible rules, away from approach paths of airports, and limited to 500 ft outside of those areas, unless licensed to do so. If you can't manage to lift your plane above 500 feet away from the airport, you have problems that 'drones' have no effect over. Christ, planes buzz the 400' tower attached to my work - and the damn thing is painted red and white and blinks, FFS.
LBJ wouldn't have had this trouble because LBJ wasn't guilty of Leading While Black.
Perhaps he's one of the people that have tried Linux, and wasn't impressed. It *is* possible to decide that, and despite what the neckbeards of Slashdot proclaim it's a perfectly permissible personal decision. Either way, I suspect you'll be okay. If not, that's okay as well.
The only way to change anything, Oh Jaded One, is to not put up with the assholes. Let those managers constantly have to replace their staff until only the truly desperate and un-hireable elsewhere will work for them. Or you can just kick the dog everyday when you get home - it's your choice.
Then you haven't worked long.
I never said I haven't worked for assholes. I said I'd rather not work for assholes, and I have left jobs for a lower paying one to get away from abusive assholes. Life's too short. And Linux coding is an unpaid job, is it not? Even less reason to put up with assholes.
Don't forget he's also an abusive asshole. So much talent there.
To each his own, but all in all I'd rather not work for a douchebag. Even if he's a really talented douchebag, he's still a douchebag. Real managers supervise without being an asshole.
I love rectally based logic.
There's an easy solution to this problem. Enforce 1 mile out from approach and landing areas of all runways, otherwise your goddamn airplane should be minimum 1000 feet AGL at all other times. Set max altitude on RC aircraft to 500 feet unless licensed/prior approval/notification to FAA. Everyone has their own chunk of the sky. The days of private aircraft pilots owning the airspace from 1 foot to the troposphere are over. Share, ladies.
Look at how much easier it is to 'get home to your family' if you just shoot the other person if they so much as fart in your direction. Especially since you will not be punished for killing that person. Seriously, if you are that goddamn scared of everyone you encounter, and are that unable to even investigate before discharging your weapon, you have chosen the wrong line of work.
Absolute Bullshit. You have tested your helicopter with a 2 1/2 lb Phantom for damage? Post the results, or stop pulling 'facts' out of your nether regions. I am all for reasonable regulations for drones, and I fly mine under 400 ft, away from crowded areas and far away from airport approach zones. By the same token, I expect private and commercial aircraft to stay the *F%$* above 500 feet unless taking off or landing. The road isn't just yours. Buy a drone, fly it, *learn how it works*, then you can contribute seriously to this discussion.
No one is saying mistakes aren't being made by asshats flying drones. What is *being said is*, all drone fliers are asshats. The outrage machine and paranoia industry are running at full throttle here, and I want to know exactly who stands to profit from all drones being grounded.
$100 drones won't fly in anything more than a 5mph wind, and not any farther than bluetooth or low power wifi. Try Again.