And along with that, fix whatever causes the steam apps folder to be marked as "all changed" from Time Machine's perspective every time you open Steam on OS X, causing unnecessary multi-gig backups. I had to exclude the steam apps folder for this reason. It can't be subtly changing every file?
What makes you so sure it can't be? Part of Steam's copy protection is encrypted executables, so what makes you certain that it isn't encrypting them with a different key each time the app starts, or decrypting them again or something?
I suppose it might be, which would explain the behaviour. It's the only app where this happens so it's clearly something unique to Steam. As someone else already mentioned, if I lose that folder in a hard drive failure I can just pull the data back off the Steam cloud, so it's not the end of the world. It would be a pain for someone with limited internet bandwidth though.
If your argument has merit you will stand behind it.
If you won't even put your slashdot user account behind it then it's not worth reading except in very special circumstances where the anonymity of the poster is necessary.
Bonus points for AC trolls who question your credibility by going over your posting history while having none of their own.
AC trolling from the sidelines really kills slashdot.
You can just pull everything back via Steam anyway.
I'm not 100% positive about this, but I'm pretty sure that some games store saved games in the Steam folder.
(That said, I'm nitpicking here; it's not like most people consider saved games to be high-value documents.)
Okay except that save files are not "multi-gig" files. No modern backup program should be making "multi-gig backups" because a few small save files are changed.
I was considering Time Machine and now I severely question the competency of its developers. I mean, rsync is more advanced than this (using proper deltas) and has been around a lot longer.
It's something to do with the way Steam "touches" the files when it launches that marks them as changed.
Steam is the only thing that causes this issue with Time Machine.
And along with that, fix whatever causes the steam apps folder to be marked as "all changed" from Time Machine's perspective every time you open Steam on OS X, causing unnecessary multi-gig backups. I had to exclude the steam apps folder for this reason. It can't be subtly changing every file?
"Apple Dick-tators". My goodness, your professionalism is showing!
I don't think the App Store is really missing much due to your boycott over the yearly fee.
I'd tell you that you're cutting your nose off to spite your face, given the customer base and money-making potential of iOS (a serious developer targets at least the top two major platforms), but you're probably too busy complaining to your mom that your brother got a bigger piece of cake for pudding.
Google allows you to install stuff from other sources. Developers are more than welcome to sell their files directly to customers if they find it expensive. Bet you didn't factor that little nugget of info into your argument did you?
I didn't need to - it's not relevant.
If you think, as a small developer, you can get better rates on microtransactions with all the major payment methods and still come out ahead after doing all the legwork for it yourself (maintaining the servers that handle it, processing returns, handling support calls etc) then fair play to you.
For those developers who just want to develop apps and not have to deal with all that, a 30% cut on an app that sells for less than $5 is a fantastic, hassle free deal. The argument was about whether Apple's fee was excessive, and it's the same as Google's fee. If you want to do it yourself on Android, feel free; the "big player" provided services are the same cut percentage.
It really is an absolute steal at 30%, given that the bulk of the software pricing on the app store and on the iTunes music and movie stores are low value amounts.
30% cut to handle payment services for your customers, including card processing and verification, refunds, fees to banks and credit card companies, gift cards, customer service, helpdesk etc? Yes please.
That alone is worth the 30% cut; the hosting and distribution is just a free bonus.
I assume that the 30% that Google charges on their store is also "insane"? Or is that perfectly fine because it's not Apple?
Exactly, but the poster above me was attempting to claim that the OP's anecdotal machine that overheats 3 times per class period as more valid than my suggestion that he had a duff one (assuming the original report is accurate - if it was overheating and shutting down that frequently you'd simply stop using it).
My point was that comparing it to the space shuttle is not valid, since one of those is a custom built, 5-of-a-kind limited production run item that performed a very dangerous task compared to a mass market consumer device made by the million. One broken one is not representative of the experience of the vast majority. Without polling a statistically significant population of iMac owners then both anecdotes don't really say much, but given that the internet is not aflame with stories about iMacs shutting down "an average of 3 times per class period" I'm going to go out on a limb and say that's an atypical user experience.
There are (were) five space shuttles, involved in the very dangerous business of launching into space. The comparison to a mass market consumer product manufactured on the million unit plus scale is simply not applicable.
There will *always* be lemons in mass market products - no production line or assembly process is perfect. The original poster is claiming that the design of the iMac is the reason it "overheated and average of 3 times per class period". I'm simply saying if they had an iMac that did that, then it was clearly faulty or installed in a place where airflow to the vents was restricted. His user experience of the iMac is atypical (but note this does not mean the iMac never fails or never ships from the factory broken).
One anecdotal working machine "doesn't really say anything" in the same way that one broken machine "doesn't really say anything". I only talked about my own personal machine though. If we include other machines that I have helped to set up then it's more like 10 or 15 working ones to his one bad one, plus one bad one of mine that shipped with a faulty fan speed sensor causing one of the three internal fans to run at high speed so it was slightly noisier than the other 10 in the room. Apple fixed it quickly and easily. It never overheated.
It's not if it stops you from taking part in discussions. If you get too many downvotes (deserved or not) you end up with a posting cap per 24 hour period.
Ok, so his Mac didn't fail due to overheating, but for any of the numerous reasons you listed. You've just multiplied the number of issues Macs have. With all of those problems, they're dying left and right. Unreliable piles of shit, just like everything made by Apple.
So other brands of computers don't have LCD displays, power supplies or SATA power cables? Good to know! How do non-Apple laptops display the UI without a display though?
In the years of iMac use I have had, even taxing the thing a high CPU load for long periods during the summer (and I have no AC) the fans have barely ever ramped up enough to hear them.
If he had an iMac that was overheating "an average of 3 times per class period" then it was either faulty or installed inside an oven, or inside a case that restricted airflow to the heatsinks (not a problem unique to the iMac).
Because he is an Apple fan-boy and turned off any and all technology knowledge of his decision process because of the emotional assurance he got from the Apple brand?
So by your logic, all Windows and Linux users keep backups then? That will really help me next time my parents' computer messes up, now that I know that they definitely keep backups because they don't have a Mac.
I fail to see how Apple's remote wipe capability, designed to ensure that your data doesn't fall into the wrong hands rather than the "safety" of data on the device (ie, ease of deletion) is a problem.
If you accidentally remote wipe, or your friend pranks you because you were logged in and went to get a soda and he's a dick, or someone hacks your account and wipes your phone and computer, then you should just restore from backup.
No need to design the remote wipe system to be reversible to solve a problem that already has a solution.
There are two types of data: backed up data and lost data.
The difference is this: providing for the national defense of the United States is the constitutional duty of the federal government, funding for science and space projects is not.
BOOM.
Not sure how the Iraq war is really "providing for the national defense of the US" though.
Maybe stop the war 2 weeks early and we could fund another couple of these amazing missions to Mars and beyond.
"Overrated" does not mean "I disagree". My post addresses the point in question in a manner suitable for a debate. If it's repeating a previous point, then perhaps "redundant"; if it's inflammatory or trolling then "troll" or flamebait"; if it's amusing then "funny". But overrated as a moderation on a comment that has not yet received any moderation? Come on guys, at least give a token nod to impartiality in moderation.
I'd be curious to know exactly what about my comment earned it a score of "overrated" with a starting score of 1.
So you're saying that they're blocking the web app/direct access to youtube via the browser? The way everyone accesses youtube on iOS now, since the app that is being removed is old, obsolete and inferior?
Interesting how you get "removing competition" and "add in watered down version Apple controls" from "Google is making their own app" and "Apple removes its own obsolete app" and "web app access directly to youtube via Safari is the best experience that is not affected in any way by this change".
If you can clue me in on your exact thought pattern to reach the conclusion you did I'd be most grateful. I just can't quite connect the dots.
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And along with that, fix whatever causes the steam apps folder to be marked as "all changed" from Time Machine's perspective every time you open Steam on OS X, causing unnecessary multi-gig backups. I had to exclude the steam apps folder for this reason. It can't be subtly changing every file?
What makes you so sure it can't be? Part of Steam's copy protection is encrypted executables, so what makes you certain that it isn't encrypting them with a different key each time the app starts, or decrypting them again or something?
I suppose it might be, which would explain the behaviour. It's the only app where this happens so it's clearly something unique to Steam. As someone else already mentioned, if I lose that folder in a hard drive failure I can just pull the data back off the Steam cloud, so it's not the end of the world. It would be a pain for someone with limited internet bandwidth though.
If your argument has merit you will stand behind it.
If you won't even put your slashdot user account behind it then it's not worth reading except in very special circumstances where the anonymity of the poster is necessary.
Bonus points for AC trolls who question your credibility by going over your posting history while having none of their own.
AC trolling from the sidelines really kills slashdot.
You can just pull everything back via Steam anyway.
I'm not 100% positive about this, but I'm pretty sure that some games store saved games in the Steam folder.
(That said, I'm nitpicking here; it's not like most people consider saved games to be high-value documents.)
Okay except that save files are not "multi-gig" files. No modern backup program should be making "multi-gig backups" because a few small save files are changed.
I was considering Time Machine and now I severely question the competency of its developers. I mean, rsync is more advanced than this (using proper deltas) and has been around a lot longer.
It's something to do with the way Steam "touches" the files when it launches that marks them as changed.
Steam is the only thing that causes this issue with Time Machine.
Don't forget the achievements!
It will be awesome when Photoshop gets achievements.
And along with that, fix whatever causes the steam apps folder to be marked as "all changed" from Time Machine's perspective every time you open Steam on OS X, causing unnecessary multi-gig backups. I had to exclude the steam apps folder for this reason. It can't be subtly changing every file?
"Apple Dick-tators". My goodness, your professionalism is showing!
I don't think the App Store is really missing much due to your boycott over the yearly fee.
I'd tell you that you're cutting your nose off to spite your face, given the customer base and money-making potential of iOS (a serious developer targets at least the top two major platforms), but you're probably too busy complaining to your mom that your brother got a bigger piece of cake for pudding.
You didn't log in, so no you didn't. Your comment has zero credibility.
Pity, that might have been a good counterpoint.
Again, the hosting and bandwidth part of the deal is practically free - it's the fees for small transactions that really add up.
Google allows you to install stuff from other sources. Developers are more than welcome to sell their files directly to customers if they find it expensive. Bet you didn't factor that little nugget of info into your argument did you?
I didn't need to - it's not relevant.
If you think, as a small developer, you can get better rates on microtransactions with all the major payment methods and still come out ahead after doing all the legwork for it yourself (maintaining the servers that handle it, processing returns, handling support calls etc) then fair play to you.
For those developers who just want to develop apps and not have to deal with all that, a 30% cut on an app that sells for less than $5 is a fantastic, hassle free deal. The argument was about whether Apple's fee was excessive, and it's the same as Google's fee. If you want to do it yourself on Android, feel free; the "big player" provided services are the same cut percentage.
If my apps are all cheap? Apple's.
Small value payments are expensive and you lose a lot to the fees.
It really is an absolute steal at 30%, given that the bulk of the software pricing on the app store and on the iTunes music and movie stores are low value amounts.
30% cut to handle payment services for your customers, including card processing and verification, refunds, fees to banks and credit card companies, gift cards, customer service, helpdesk etc? Yes please.
That alone is worth the 30% cut; the hosting and distribution is just a free bonus.
I assume that the 30% that Google charges on their store is also "insane"? Or is that perfectly fine because it's not Apple?
Exactly, but the poster above me was attempting to claim that the OP's anecdotal machine that overheats 3 times per class period as more valid than my suggestion that he had a duff one (assuming the original report is accurate - if it was overheating and shutting down that frequently you'd simply stop using it).
My point was that comparing it to the space shuttle is not valid, since one of those is a custom built, 5-of-a-kind limited production run item that performed a very dangerous task compared to a mass market consumer device made by the million. One broken one is not representative of the experience of the vast majority. Without polling a statistically significant population of iMac owners then both anecdotes don't really say much, but given that the internet is not aflame with stories about iMacs shutting down "an average of 3 times per class period" I'm going to go out on a limb and say that's an atypical user experience.
Nice strawman.
There are (were) five space shuttles, involved in the very dangerous business of launching into space. The comparison to a mass market consumer product manufactured on the million unit plus scale is simply not applicable.
There will *always* be lemons in mass market products - no production line or assembly process is perfect. The original poster is claiming that the design of the iMac is the reason it "overheated and average of 3 times per class period". I'm simply saying if they had an iMac that did that, then it was clearly faulty or installed in a place where airflow to the vents was restricted. His user experience of the iMac is atypical (but note this does not mean the iMac never fails or never ships from the factory broken).
One anecdotal working machine "doesn't really say anything" in the same way that one broken machine "doesn't really say anything". I only talked about my own personal machine though. If we include other machines that I have helped to set up then it's more like 10 or 15 working ones to his one bad one, plus one bad one of mine that shipped with a faulty fan speed sensor causing one of the three internal fans to run at high speed so it was slightly noisier than the other 10 in the room. Apple fixed it quickly and easily. It never overheated.
Ahh look. It's the white knight here to defend Apple with his anecdotal evidence.
My anecdotal evidence is just as valid as the OP's anecdotal evidence based on a data set of one alleged machine.
Take that for what it's worth, or is his post "valid data" because it criticises Apple?
Karma is overrated.
It's not if it stops you from taking part in discussions. If you get too many downvotes (deserved or not) you end up with a posting cap per 24 hour period.
Ok, so his Mac didn't fail due to overheating, but for any of the numerous reasons you listed. You've just multiplied the number of issues Macs have. With all of those problems, they're dying left and right. Unreliable piles of shit, just like everything made by Apple.
So other brands of computers don't have LCD displays, power supplies or SATA power cables? Good to know! How do non-Apple laptops display the UI without a display though?
ahh yes - you were holding it wrong!
I know you're trolling, but... umm... yes?
In the years of iMac use I have had, even taxing the thing a high CPU load for long periods during the summer (and I have no AC) the fans have barely ever ramped up enough to hear them.
If he had an iMac that was overheating "an average of 3 times per class period" then it was either faulty or installed inside an oven, or inside a case that restricted airflow to the heatsinks (not a problem unique to the iMac).
Why didn't he keep backups?
Because he is an Apple fan-boy and turned off any and all technology knowledge of his decision process because of the emotional assurance he got from the Apple brand?
So by your logic, all Windows and Linux users keep backups then? That will really help me next time my parents' computer messes up, now that I know that they definitely keep backups because they don't have a Mac.
I'm not sure I trust a guy who doesn't back up. So much for a so-called "tech expert".
His story is also precisely why I don't cross link accounts like that so that if you lose one, you lose them all.
Why didn't he keep backups?
I fail to see how Apple's remote wipe capability, designed to ensure that your data doesn't fall into the wrong hands rather than the "safety" of data on the device (ie, ease of deletion) is a problem.
If you accidentally remote wipe, or your friend pranks you because you were logged in and went to get a soda and he's a dick, or someone hacks your account and wipes your phone and computer, then you should just restore from backup.
No need to design the remote wipe system to be reversible to solve a problem that already has a solution.
There are two types of data: backed up data and lost data.
The difference is this: providing for the national defense of the United States is the constitutional duty of the federal government, funding for science and space projects is not.
BOOM.
Not sure how the Iraq war is really "providing for the national defense of the US" though.
Maybe stop the war 2 weeks early and we could fund another couple of these amazing missions to Mars and beyond.
Come on mods. Offtopic? The point is directly relevant to the OP's query about Youtube working on Safari on iOS, in a story about Youtube on iOS...
I'm not sure how to be more on topic?
"Overrated" does not mean "I disagree". My post addresses the point in question in a manner suitable for a debate. If it's repeating a previous point, then perhaps "redundant"; if it's inflammatory or trolling then "troll" or flamebait"; if it's amusing then "funny". But overrated as a moderation on a comment that has not yet received any moderation? Come on guys, at least give a token nod to impartiality in moderation.
I'd be curious to know exactly what about my comment earned it a score of "overrated" with a starting score of 1.
I don't have flash on my computer and I've yet to come across a youtube video that doesn't work on my computer or my phone.
So you're saying that they're blocking the web app/direct access to youtube via the browser? The way everyone accesses youtube on iOS now, since the app that is being removed is old, obsolete and inferior?
Interesting how you get "removing competition" and "add in watered down version Apple controls" from "Google is making their own app" and "Apple removes its own obsolete app" and "web app access directly to youtube via Safari is the best experience that is not affected in any way by this change".
If you can clue me in on your exact thought pattern to reach the conclusion you did I'd be most grateful. I just can't quite connect the dots.