I've never heard of homeopaths committing violence, banding together in huge groups, or any of the other things large, organized religions are famous for.
How about the homeopathic plan to pollute the water supply by adding microscopic amounts of toxic substances to huge reservoirs?
If release-critical bugs in one or two of the dozen or so architectures supported by Debian didn't result in failure to release for *all* other architectures, Debian might be able to actually release in less than geological timescales.:)
And if they allowed for bug-fix updates for stable instead of only security patches... I remember reading about problems with Amanda and the version of tar which was going to be in Etch.
I realised that if there was a bug which was not a security hole yet resulted in Amanda being rendered pretty well useless, it might not even get fixed once Etch got released... Thats pretty scary.
Well, they would not have been able to hold back Etch unless they were the critical-path people for getting Etch done, would they?
*Everyone* on the Debian 'team' is a critical-path person for getting Etch done; thats part of the problem.:)
It means that there is a huge number of people capable of sabotaging a Debian release if they feel slighted, insulted or otherwise disgruntled, immature, flakey or goofy.
I've said that I think Vista will be Microsofts last desktop OS. Perhaps Etch will be Debians last release.
apt-get source phpXX should get you the build script to do your own package.
I've found that when a package is not in stable backports, trying to build it from the source packages for testing ended in 'dependency hell' where in order to build it I needed to build dozens of other packages, usually things like debhelper for example, which would not be built without building dpkg etc as well.
In many cases the build process was circular and I could not work out how to straighten it out. I am sole system administrator here, I don't have time to work through things like this.
Instead we are going Ubuntu for sites which require keeping up with the state of play for PHP.
If they had a decent backport of a *recent* php4 and if they kept it recent then debian stable + backports might be an option. But they don't and it isn't. Not when you have to support 3rd party php applications and keep them up to date.
I don't think the full fury of their immature response was, however. I don't think they believed that people would put their effort into making a project succeed, then turn around and put it into making it fail by deliberately holding it back.
Theres only one word for what happened; sabotage.
Those developers sabotaged Etch by holding back their work in retaliation for their perceived slight.
This wasn't just immature tantrum-throwing -- this was deliberate and calculated sabotage.
They should be ashamed of themselves but they are too self-opinionated and self-important for that.
I know nothing of green skies, however the 'beginning' in the verse you mention, "Brashith alhim" or "In the beginning, the gods" , may well be relative to the perspecitve of God (or gods) rather than to the creations perspective, ie from the perspective of the timeless, spaceless God, there was a beginning (or initiation) of a universe.
And when I referred to 'irrelevent bible verses' I meant that literaly, ie the verbalisations of said Christians made no sense whatsoever in the context of the conversation. Thats what you get for embracing cognitive dissonance as a philosophy of life.
Something I suggest to Christians to try to fathom their beliefs is that perhaps God exists outside of time and space and that God could have created the universe with an infinitely deep past; ie there is no reason for a Christian to believe that the universe is any specific age or that 'creation' happened at a specific time.
Some Christians readily soak this up while others just stare blankly before quoting some irrelevent bible verse. Its a useful calibration.
I've just started to get into the mac and reading your post (and the others which followed) I installed quicksilver.
Yes, it looks useful and interesting... however their website does not help much. I've been trying to follow their docco but its slow going. Its an incredibly inefficient site, its laggy (have to wait for it to catch up when using mouse wheel) and consumes vast amounts of CPU just to scroll down the page. Not such great web design/coding. (This is on an AMD64+1G RAM + Debian Sarge + Firefox. So its no slouch when it comes to browsing web pages).
Does this reflect on Quicksilver itself?
Has anyone found the quicksilver app itself to have any bad memory leaks etc?
On the weekend I wanted to use the mac for watching some arbitrary downloaded avi movies.
Unfortunately they would not play on the mac because I didn't have the codec installed (I had divx though and quicktime *pro*).
The movies played perfectly well in windows media player in coherence mode even in full screen.
Incidentally, the windows install which played these avi movies was totally out of the box -- no extra codecs installed, nothing, just the basic XP Pro windows media player. Seems pretty sad for the Mac not to be able to cope as well by itself and to have to call on XP to play a media file...:(
In case I sound like a left wing nut, I should mention that I view myself as a conservative, who just wants the USA returned to the people.
Much as I genuinely hope that 'The Rapture' really does happen because it would mean that Jesus would be saving the world from the Christians, I genuinely hope that the USA is returned to the people -- to the American people as opposed to the USA over-reaching itself and interfering with virtually every other nation on the planet.
Please, take control of your government and keep them focussed on whats really important for them -- their own nation.
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Yeah it was on the disc, but it wasn't accessible. It's not like you hit a secret code and OMG PORN.
Heres what I think Congress should do.
They should make it illegal to sell or produce things which can be modified in any way so as to display pornography.
Jokes aside, I've loved metal, punk, thrash, etc. since I first heard it. Oddly enough I love classical music too
Motorhead *is* classical music.
Seriously... metal of all types is a natural offshoot of western classical music as punk is of folk music.
Compare Jake Thackray and the Sex Pistols. They even sing about the same things. Almost.
I've never heard of homeopaths committing violence, banding together in huge groups, or any of the other things large, organized religions are famous for.
How about the homeopathic plan to pollute the water supply by adding microscopic amounts of toxic substances to huge reservoirs?
They will be saddled with maintaining old versions of very complex software (like the entire gcc toolchain, plus binutils and the like)
Sounds just like Debian Stable to me...
I don't think Debian is any more open than Ubuntu, so it's not like Debian's openness is 100 percent the cause.
:)
Which leaves 'locked up by process'.
In short, in a totally open system, things might tend to get locked up by process.
Debian.
Thats all, just Debian and their record on timely releases.
and also meant K miles
:-/
Is that engineers or salesmans K?
I'm wondering because I'd like to know if one K miles is 1024 miles or 1000 miles.
Thank you
the end of the world will come
Better yet, the Rapture when Jesus will save the world from the Christians.
Maybe Debian should modularise.
:)
Now theres a thought.
If release-critical bugs in one or two of the dozen or so architectures supported by Debian didn't result in failure to release for *all* other architectures, Debian might be able to actually release in less than geological timescales.
And if they allowed for bug-fix updates for stable instead of only security patches... I remember reading about problems with Amanda and the version of tar which was going to be in Etch.
I realised that if there was a bug which was not a security hole yet resulted in Amanda being rendered pretty well useless, it might not even get fixed once Etch got released... Thats pretty scary.
My opinion is that if I hire someone who really needs to be "managed" I have made a mistake.
Thats what your cattle-prod is for.
but if the queston is can we find someone as driven as Theo de Raadt to lead a project then DBJ is about the only person I could think of.
One would need to find someone who is themselves driven yet does not drive others insane.
Interesting. My only concern would be the release upgrade path; how well does it work with apt-get dist-upgrade from Sarge to Etch?
The semi-unofficial backports are pretty well guaranteed to upgrade to the next release with no problems...
Well, they would not have been able to hold back Etch unless they were the critical-path people for getting Etch done, would they?
:)
*Everyone* on the Debian 'team' is a critical-path person for getting Etch done; thats part of the problem.
It means that there is a huge number of people capable of sabotaging a Debian release if they feel slighted, insulted or otherwise disgruntled, immature, flakey or goofy.
I've said that I think Vista will be Microsofts last desktop OS. Perhaps Etch will be Debians last release.
DJB isn't a big believer in the DFSG that defines Debian... Also he's not primarily famous for his diplomacy skills
:)
I am sorry... I was being extremely sarcastic. I think DJB is a nutcase (I've worked with qmail).
http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/ says it all really...
It is *called* 'weekly' news yet, in most cases, it comes out monthly.
apt-get source phpXX should get you the build script to do your own package.
I've found that when a package is not in stable backports, trying to build it from the source packages for testing ended in 'dependency hell' where in order to build it I needed to build dozens of other packages, usually things like debhelper for example, which would not be built without building dpkg etc as well.
In many cases the build process was circular and I could not work out how to straighten it out. I am sole system administrator here, I don't have time to work through things like this.
Instead we are going Ubuntu for sites which require keeping up with the state of play for PHP.
To address the rather immature "needs newer packages" complaints, may I refer you to http://www.backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php
If only that were true.
If they had a decent backport of a *recent* php4 and if they kept it recent then debian stable + backports might be an option. But they don't and it isn't. Not when you have to support 3rd party php applications and keep them up to date.
I don't think the full fury of their immature response was, however. I don't think they believed that people would put their effort into making a project succeed, then turn around and put it into making it fail by deliberately holding it back.
Theres only one word for what happened; sabotage.
Those developers sabotaged Etch by holding back their work in retaliation for their perceived slight.
This wasn't just immature tantrum-throwing -- this was deliberate and calculated sabotage.
They should be ashamed of themselves but they are too self-opinionated and self-important for that.
I am disgusted.
How about D.J.Bernstein for DPL?
Descartes himself all but acknowledges that the cogito is pretty useless... right where he says:
"If it is ever found that the speed of light is anything other than infinite then it may be said that I know nothing in matters of philosophy".
I think thats just about a done deal nowadays, no?
I know nothing of green skies, however the 'beginning' in the verse you mention, "Brashith alhim" or "In the beginning, the gods" , may well be relative to the perspecitve of God (or gods) rather than to the creations perspective, ie from the perspective of the timeless, spaceless God, there was a beginning (or initiation) of a universe.
And when I referred to 'irrelevent bible verses' I meant that literaly, ie the verbalisations of said Christians made no sense whatsoever in the context of the conversation. Thats what you get for embracing cognitive dissonance as a philosophy of life.
Something I suggest to Christians to try to fathom their beliefs is that perhaps God exists outside of time and space and that God could have created the universe with an infinitely deep past; ie there is no reason for a Christian to believe that the universe is any specific age or that 'creation' happened at a specific time.
Some Christians readily soak this up while others just stare blankly before quoting some irrelevent bible verse. Its a useful calibration.
I am completely unsurprised that Windows supports Microsoft proprietary formats out of the box.
avi not wmv
The avi concerned is not encoded in an MS proprietary format.
I've just started to get into the mac and reading your post (and the others which followed) I installed quicksilver.
Yes, it looks useful and interesting... however their website does not help much. I've been trying to follow their docco but its slow going. Its an incredibly inefficient site, its laggy (have to wait for it to catch up when using mouse wheel) and consumes vast amounts of CPU just to scroll down the page. Not such great web design/coding. (This is on an AMD64+1G RAM + Debian Sarge + Firefox. So its no slouch when it comes to browsing web pages).
Does this reflect on Quicksilver itself?
Has anyone found the quicksilver app itself to have any bad memory leaks etc?
Parallels with coherence mode rules.
:(
I'll second that.
On the weekend I wanted to use the mac for watching some arbitrary downloaded avi movies.
Unfortunately they would not play on the mac because I didn't have the codec installed (I had divx though and quicktime *pro*).
The movies played perfectly well in windows media player in coherence mode even in full screen.
Incidentally, the windows install which played these avi movies was totally out of the box -- no extra codecs installed, nothing, just the basic XP Pro windows media player. Seems pretty sad for the Mac not to be able to cope as well by itself and to have to call on XP to play a media file...
In case I sound like a left wing nut, I should mention that I view myself as a conservative, who just wants the USA returned to the people.
Much as I genuinely hope that 'The Rapture' really does happen because it would mean that Jesus would be saving the world from the Christians, I genuinely hope that the USA is returned to the people -- to the American people as opposed to the USA over-reaching itself and interfering with virtually every other nation on the planet.
Please, take control of your government and keep them focussed on whats really important for them -- their own nation.