Re:Put down the crack pipe, moderators...
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"Smoking cocaine combines the efficiency of intravenous administration with the relative ease of consumption or ingestion and insufflation. Facilitated by the large surface area of the lungs' air sacs, cocaine administered by inhalation is absorbed almost immediately into the bloodstream, taking only 19 seconds to reach the brain." Game over. Continue?
Re:Put down the crack pipe, moderators...
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WTF? You are wrong, very wrong. The whole point of crack (small rocks of of Cocaine freed from its hydrochloride) is that it is smoked. Usually with the aid of tin foil. You, sir, are an arse.
Well yes it is, but she would be wasting her time. She might as well cut the cable, it will have the same effect. You can't always guarantee that Alice can transmit her one time pad to Bob, but you can guarantee that Eve can't get hold of it without Alice and Bob finding out. Which is quite handy.
I didn't catch that, but we did get Sir Dystic from the Cult of the Dead Cow on Radio 4's Today program this morning, which I thought was quite significant in its own way... Anyway, can you make it play "Daisy"?
It's on the Y axis of the first graph, entitled "Avoiding a data crunch". It does make perfect sense, it's just kinda funny, especially the way they manage to mix metric and imperial units. It's just excellent. The best thing since square seconds:)
1) What is the largest capacity hard drive money can buy today? 2) Do non-logarithmic graphs that don't start at zero suck, or what? 3) "kilometers per square inch" is a sweet unit.
I think I agree with you on many of your points. I can't see how you can usefully combine Open Source with making money (you know what I mean, I'm not talking about support etc, although that argument has yet to be proven). What I still have a problem with is this: "Money is the root of all evil". It isn't, really. I'm not saying it's the root, but pure jealousy is closer to it than money is. The amount of loot another individual has, or the number of wives he can attract, or whatever, mean nothing unless someone is jealous of that status. Respect is another thing that causes jealousy. You see this all the time in the academic community. Respected professors regularly fall back to childhood name calling when their face is at stake. The same happens with programmers, and this is going to get brutal in the coming years. See if it doesn't.
I was thinking about this sort of thing the other day. It seems to me that the OSM has done nothing except change currency from 'cash' to 'respect'. Now that has its good and bad aspects. One is that programmers get very sad without respect, and another is that programmers have an incredibly hard time giving respect to other programmers. It's a lot easier with cash, because it's a whole lot more tangible than respect. If I have a pound, then I will still have a pound tomorrow (modulo taxes etc). If I have some respect, that's cool but I could get dissed just as quickly. I guess you could stretch the analogy and say that the inflation/depreciation rate for respect is extremely high. Which is not good for your economy, whatever your unit of currency. I rambled a bit there, but to bring it back to what you were saying, "money and/or fame", I guess my point is: Any sort of interaction where money is involved has a parallel with fame/respect. But many programmers I have known, and I think a large percentage of OS programmers, value respect a lot more than money. So it's gonna get ugly out there...
So the distinction is between passive and active? So if you are passive it's OK, but if you perform some act to encourage the bad guy, then that's entrapment. I can see that point of view, but it seems to me that the question then becomes, "how active is this honeypot"? It doesn't seem 100% passive to me. Surely you are by definition inducing them "to perform an illegal action that they would not have otherwise performed." Otherwise, why did you bother with the honeypot? Is it OK to instrument your system so you can watch anyone who turns up, but you're not particularly bothered whether they do or not?
I can say with authority that this was not the case. The art came first. Then followed a number of hired tarts to be the "real" Lara Croft (one of whom [the current one I think] is called Lara Weller [coincidence or whatever, I dunno]). Which is all a bit silly, really. It's "with authority" because I can see Toby Gard, the original designer, from my desk. Well, if I turn 180 degrees, anyway:)
I've got some snake oil for sale, want some? Seriously though, of course that's what we all want. Unfortunately there's this sentiment around here that everyone at Microsoft is such a bonehead that they are completely incapable of coding quality software. That's cute, but so obviously untrue that I don't understand why people think that way. If you think they're idiots, you're gonna be totally fucked when you actually go head to head with them. "Know your enemy".
That is because the "legos" zealots are just plain *wrong*, and we will not stop until they just, like, *die* and go away... Well they can go away before dying if that's more convenient. Hanging, drawing, and quartering is too good for them. How about we tattoo "The plural of Lego is Lego" on their foreheads, and let them live. Heh, I like that. There should probably be a smiley in there somewhere...
Scrabble boards are 13 squares on a side. :)
(Not off-topic
I think you'll find it isn't...
"Smoking cocaine combines the efficiency of intravenous administration with the relative ease of consumption or ingestion and insufflation. Facilitated by the large surface area of the lungs' air sacs, cocaine administered by inhalation is absorbed almost immediately into the bloodstream, taking only 19 seconds to reach the brain."
Game over.
Continue?
WTF? You are wrong, very wrong. The whole point of crack (small rocks of of Cocaine freed from its hydrochloride) is that it is smoked. Usually with the aid of tin foil. You, sir, are an arse.
Well yes it is, but she would be wasting her time. She might as well cut the cable, it will have the same effect. You can't always guarantee that Alice can transmit her one time pad to Bob, but you can guarantee that Eve can't get hold of it without Alice and Bob finding out. Which is quite handy.
They are fundamentally not able to.
This is the whole point of this technique.
Oh well, another humourless bastard moderator.
Write it yourself! You lazy Open Source bastard!
I didn't catch that, but we did get Sir Dystic from the Cult of the Dead Cow on Radio 4's Today program this morning, which I thought was quite significant in its own way...
Anyway, can you make it play "Daisy"?
It's on the Y axis of the first graph, entitled "Avoiding a data crunch". :)
It does make perfect sense, it's just kinda funny, especially the way they manage to mix metric and imperial units. It's just excellent. The best thing since square seconds
This is why we need Anonymous Coward!
1) What is the largest capacity hard drive money can buy today?
2) Do non-logarithmic graphs that don't start at zero suck, or what?
3) "kilometers per square inch" is a sweet unit.
I think I agree with you on many of your points. I can't see how you can usefully combine Open Source with making money (you know what I mean, I'm not talking about support etc, although that argument has yet to be proven).
What I still have a problem with is this: "Money is the root of all evil".
It isn't, really.
I'm not saying it's the root, but pure jealousy is closer to it than money is. The amount of loot another individual has, or the number of wives he can attract, or whatever, mean nothing unless someone is jealous of that status.
Respect is another thing that causes jealousy. You see this all the time in the academic community. Respected professors regularly fall back to childhood name calling when their face is at stake. The same happens with programmers, and this is going to get brutal in the coming years. See if it doesn't.
I was thinking about this sort of thing the other day. It seems to me that the OSM has done nothing except change currency from 'cash' to 'respect'. Now that has its good and bad aspects. One is that programmers get very sad without respect, and another is that programmers have an incredibly hard time giving respect to other programmers. It's a lot easier with cash, because it's a whole lot more tangible than respect. If I have a pound, then I will still have a pound tomorrow (modulo taxes etc). If I have some respect, that's cool but I could get dissed just as quickly. I guess you could stretch the analogy and say that the inflation/depreciation rate for respect is extremely high. Which is not good for your economy, whatever your unit of currency.
I rambled a bit there, but to bring it back to what you were saying, "money and/or fame", I guess my point is: Any sort of interaction where money is involved has a parallel with fame/respect.
But many programmers I have known, and I think a large percentage of OS programmers, value respect a lot more than money. So it's gonna get ugly out there...
So the distinction is between passive and active? So if you are passive it's OK, but if you perform some act to encourage the bad guy, then that's entrapment.
I can see that point of view, but it seems to me that the question then becomes, "how active is this honeypot"? It doesn't seem 100% passive to me. Surely you are by definition inducing them "to perform an illegal action that they would not have otherwise performed."
Otherwise, why did you bother with the honeypot?
Is it OK to instrument your system so you can watch anyone who turns up, but you're not particularly bothered whether they do or not?
I can say with authority that this was not the case. The art came first. Then followed a number of hired tarts to be the "real" Lara Croft (one of whom [the current one I think] is called Lara Weller [coincidence or whatever, I dunno]). Which is all a bit silly, really. :)
It's "with authority" because I can see Toby Gard, the original designer, from my desk. Well, if I turn 180 degrees, anyway
Have you ever actually coded using Win32? It doesn't sound like it. What you sound like is a FUD spreader.
No offense...
I've got some snake oil for sale, want some?
Seriously though, of course that's what we all want. Unfortunately there's this sentiment around here that everyone at Microsoft is such a bonehead that they are completely incapable of coding quality software. That's cute, but so obviously untrue that I don't understand why people think that way. If you think they're idiots, you're gonna be totally fucked when you actually go head to head with them. "Know your enemy".
Did he ever get around to writing the driver? Or is he going to do that after all the shit? Nice bit of focus he has there...
So they have Linux on already? Where's the challenge? You should install Windows on them, at least that would be productive...
Die, heretic!
That is because the "legos" zealots are just plain *wrong*, and we will not stop until they just, like, *die* and go away...
Well they can go away before dying if that's more convenient.
Hanging, drawing, and quartering is too good for them. How about we tattoo "The plural of Lego is Lego" on their foreheads, and let them live. Heh, I like that.
There should probably be a smiley in there somewhere...
I thought it was five for birds...
It worked for me.
No, because you only pick six numbers!