Ok, this is good news, but -- no offense -- I'll believe it when I actually push the start button with a mouse on a commercial release and see a usable start menu. We've been told before that "the start button is back" and it was a horrible joke.
I also want to see automatic boot into desktop on machines without a touchscreen, and a way to LOCK it into desktop, with none of that random switching-to-metro carp. These are not negotiable.
Even if this patch came out today, there'd still most likely be a coverage gap as Microsoft delivered something that's not quite what the users wanted, ate additional crow, and released a second patch that asymptotically approached something actually usable. My advice: Go with Windows 7. It's perfectly useable, and gives you a migration path to whatever next version of Windows actually works properly.
I live on the edge of the urban growth boundary in my area, and have fiber to the house, so internet access is just fine, thanks. And we have a total lack of polar bears here. Health care sucks, but we can do our own medical research on the net and order medical supplies from Amazon, so I guess it's not all bad.
I think you're right. So it seems that the job for those of us in the know is to spread the word as much as possible. The first vendor that implements this should immediately get a bunch of free advertisement. Not the good kind.
I'm actually considering going back to a flip phone or a burner if this is implemented.
I suspect that we are hearing a little bit of frustration. And surely this is a low hanging fruit -- a lot of positive karma could be had for what sounds like a reasonable amount of programming.
I think it's reasonable to believe that an Accessibility feature continue to work. And I think it's in the best interests of the Linux community for that to happen.
I'll give you that this bug carries a tad more weight due to what I would think is a large impact, but the usual "no one is fixing this bug" answers apply:
- do it yourself (I get that this is often not an option, but including for completeness) - convince someone else to do it - pay someone to do it - find some workaround
I think OP is trying to do the second one with this article. Perhaps someone will read this and be embarrassed enough to fix it.
> I can certainly believe 1-in-4 if you include passengers in the not-at-fault car on the phone as "phone related"
Indeed. It all depends on how you count the incidents.
Once upon a time, someone staggered into the street as I was making a right turn out of a parking lot, put his hands on my fender, did a pirouette in front of my car and collapsed. I didn't actually touch his body with the car. He started to get up, someone screamed "oh my god, is he alive??" and he made a conscious decision (in my opinion) to lay back down.
Awhile later, cops and an ambulance arrived. The EMTs knew him by name. "Hi, Fred. What are you doing out here again?"
The cop and I had a polite conversation. He looked at the greasy handprints on the car, had a word with the EMTs and told me that in his estimation the pedestrian was staggering drunk, and he intended to cite the man for (something like) being drunk in public and behaving in an unsafe manner, gave me his card and said I was free to go. His parting comment was that because of the way the statistics were collected, this would almost certainly go down as an alcohol related accident even though the driver (me) was not intoxicated.
It's like taking antidepressants. The world just feels too comfortable.'"
Spoken like a person who has never used antidepressants or understands or how they work, or just buys into the nonsensical Scientologist bullshit.
Antidepressants aren't magic happy pills and they aren't some sort of metaphorical rose coloured glasses.
They take the edge off. That's it. They give you the chance to back away from the emotional precipice that you would otherwise jump from. Some are better than others (Paxil sucks for many many people, for example) but properly used, they help people restore their lives from what was a bottomless pit.
Depression is the third leading cause of death. Probably the main cause of preventable death since if you don't kill yourself yourself outright, you tend to not give a shit about "healthy living" and shave 20 years off your lifespan with heart disease and other crap.
This article and summary is crap.
-- BMO
Having a wife with this condition, I'd like to add that antidepressants take the edge off enough that therapy can work, and perhaps coping skills can be learned.
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And government is different how?
Exactly. Microsoft can be depended upon to create periodic opportunities for Linux. :-)
Ok, this is good news, but -- no offense -- I'll believe it when I actually push the start button with a mouse on a commercial release and see a usable start menu. We've been told before that "the start button is back" and it was a horrible joke.
I also want to see automatic boot into desktop on machines without a touchscreen, and a way to LOCK it into desktop, with none of that random switching-to-metro carp. These are not negotiable.
Even if this patch came out today, there'd still most likely be a coverage gap as Microsoft delivered something that's not quite what the users wanted, ate additional crow, and released a second patch that asymptotically approached something actually usable. My advice: Go with Windows 7. It's perfectly useable, and gives you a migration path to whatever next version of Windows actually works properly.
> This should have been part of 8.1 from the beginning. I just got used to the start screen and now it's going back?
I suspect you will be able to ignore the start menu and continue to use the start screen if you wish.
> This should be 8.2 or 9.0 instead of a patch against 8.1.
It should have been a patch against 8.0. Hell, it should have been a patch against 8.0 Beta 1.
Oh, wait until Windows 9. They'll screw it up royally and Ubuntu will get interesting again.
Ballmer is gone.
Wait, we already knew that.
Well, anyway, his lack of presence is already starting to be felt.
I live on the edge of the urban growth boundary in my area, and have fiber to the house, so internet access is just fine, thanks. And we have a total lack of polar bears here. Health care sucks, but we can do our own medical research on the net and order medical supplies from Amazon, so I guess it's not all bad.
I think you're right. So it seems that the job for those of us in the know is to spread the word as much as possible. The first vendor that implements this should immediately get a bunch of free advertisement. Not the good kind.
I'm actually considering going back to a flip phone or a burner if this is implemented.
Is anyone falling for this?
I agree. Last I heard, we *wanted* people to use Linux on the desktop.
I suspect that we are hearing a little bit of frustration. And surely this is a low hanging fruit -- a lot of positive karma could be had for what sounds like a reasonable amount of programming.
I think it's reasonable to believe that an Accessibility feature continue to work. And I think it's in the best interests of the Linux community for that to happen.
I'll give you that this bug carries a tad more weight due to what I would think is a large impact, but the usual "no one is fixing this bug" answers apply:
- do it yourself (I get that this is often not an option, but including for completeness)
- convince someone else to do it
- pay someone to do it
- find some workaround
I think OP is trying to do the second one with this article. Perhaps someone will read this and be embarrassed enough to fix it.
Microsoft != Facebook
Ok...
Right! That's right! Facebook is a software giant that snoops through your stuff. Microsoft is... is...
Waaaait a minute...
And PlaysForSure?
A promise from Microsoft is worth two ounces of fairy dust. That's something.
I exchanged a handful of magic beans for an ounce of fairy dust. Barely got me a foot off the ground.
But now we pay them more. It's for the children.
'S what I was thinking. In at least some cases, it's because they took part in the crime.
> I can certainly believe 1-in-4 if you include passengers in the not-at-fault car on the phone as "phone related"
Indeed. It all depends on how you count the incidents.
Once upon a time, someone staggered into the street as I was making a right turn out of a parking lot, put his hands on my fender, did a pirouette in front of my car and collapsed. I didn't actually touch his body with the car. He started to get up, someone screamed "oh my god, is he alive??" and he made a conscious decision (in my opinion) to lay back down.
Awhile later, cops and an ambulance arrived. The EMTs knew him by name. "Hi, Fred. What are you doing out here again?"
The cop and I had a polite conversation. He looked at the greasy handprints on the car, had a word with the EMTs and told me that in his estimation the pedestrian was staggering drunk, and he intended to cite the man for (something like) being drunk in public and behaving in an unsafe manner, gave me his card and said I was free to go. His parting comment was that because of the way the statistics were collected, this would almost certainly go down as an alcohol related accident even though the driver (me) was not intoxicated.
I just sold my 1971 Pinto to Hiroto Takahashi for 25,532,500 yen! Plus shipping!
He shoots, he scores.
It's like taking antidepressants. The world just feels too comfortable.'"
Spoken like a person who has never used antidepressants or understands or how they work, or just buys into the nonsensical Scientologist bullshit.
Antidepressants aren't magic happy pills and they aren't some sort of metaphorical rose coloured glasses.
They take the edge off. That's it. They give you the chance to back away from the emotional precipice that you would otherwise jump from. Some are better than others (Paxil sucks for many many people, for example) but properly used, they help people restore their lives from what was a bottomless pit.
Depression is the third leading cause of death. Probably the main cause of preventable death since if you don't kill yourself yourself outright, you tend to not give a shit about "healthy living" and shave 20 years off your lifespan with heart disease and other crap.
This article and summary is crap.
--
BMO
Having a wife with this condition, I'd like to add that antidepressants take the edge off enough that therapy can work, and perhaps coping skills can be learned.
Right. For instance, what if you don't have reliable internet access? (If traveling, for instance.)