How pray tell will that happen? (Throw away progress) Methane is cheap and getting cheaper. Solar is just about there and getting cheaper. Electric cars are expanding at a healthy rate. Even if he let's coal do what ever they want tomorrow, it's not going to come all the way back to its former glory.
Most hated country? It won't be because we elected a populist leader, it'll be because we are about to shit can every crappy trade deal and treaty we've ever signed up for. The easy money from the US is about to dry up.
Here let me fix that for you. On one side you have scientists who are completely dependent on government and private grants for their paychecks. If they study global warming and come to the right conclusions they get cash rained on them. If not they get black listed and driven out of their field.
On the other side you have people who work for a living and are being taxed to pay for the global warming or just simply being regulated out of business. Currently they are being fucked over and no one is listening to them and their concerns at all.
We are about to see is that completely reversed. Is that good? Is that bad? We will see.
The only reason black and brown is going up fast are immigrants. That door looks like it is about to close. After that the groups are not that far apart. Hispanics have the fastest native growth rate, but it is slowing just like everyone else's.
If the current race groups don't drop their race identity politics (supremacy/victimhood racism) by the time whites are minority, this country will be in a major civil war. White people are not going to put up with it. They are traditional gun owners, typically educated, and make up the bulk of the military and the farmers in this country. It will not end well for the urban populations that will seek to repress them.
We are the most altruistic country on the planet, but that doesn't mean we are less great because we decide to not be the stupidest one too by blindly letting everyone take advantage of our generosity and kindness.
We owe people no more kindness/accommodation than they offer us in return. Lately I'm beginning to feel like the World's door mat/toilet as a US citizen, even in my own Country of all places. Like a great many of my fellow countryman, I am fucking sick of it.
Yes Islam has many parallels with the rise of Nazism.
In speeches, Hitler made apparently warm references towards Muslim culture such as: "The peoples of Islam will always be closer to us than, for example, France".
Hitler's apocalypse: Jews and the Nazi legacy, Robert S. Wistrich, Weidenfeld & Nicolson, 17 Oct 1985, page 59
Define your terms please. A minority in many places in the US these days is defined as white, male, and employed. In much of California being white of any gender meets the traditional definition of a minority.
Now I get what you are insinuating:
It's not going to be very fun being an illegal criminal from south of the border since they will be sent home in larger numbers. (Deported or jailed and then deported)
It's not going to be very fun being a non-criminal illegal from south of the border, since they too will be sent home in larger numbers. (Deported)
Being an American hating foreigner with ties to violent overseas groups, that for some odd reason rather live in the US than their own country of origin. Will be less than easy from now on. (Deported or never allowed to visit the US in the first place)
Being a Black Lives Matter rioter/looter will no longer be a free pass. Not talking about the people with the protest signs but the jackasses burning down everything and looting stores. (Jail or stand your ground CCP holders, also know as being gunned down in the street)
Being an unemployed social program free rider. (get a job or get kicked off)
Being a government bureaucrat used to big pay, big benefits, and lots of power. Pretty sure there is going to be a big surge in people from the FBI and Justice Dept.updating their Linkedin accounts here in a month or two.
The problem is those groups of people are no longer a small "minority" anymore. We are pretty close to parity, if we haven't already pushed passed it, on those that make verse those that take, and people are sick of it. Plenty of white people fall into those categories too, so save your non-arguments of racism for someone who believes that non-sense.
Your Medicare and Social Security are ripped from you? You do realize both were supposed to be a "lifeline" a "helping hand" during your old age, not the foundation upon which you base your retirement on, much less the utilities, healthcare, food, transportation, and rent home you were going to need for your golden years. Should have been a firefighter/police/DMV supervisor if you wanted a double dipped fat retirement check.
All that deficit spending that we've been seeing more less continuously (that brief blip during B. Clintons term was hardly a positive trend) since WW 2 (http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/debt_deficit_history) that was how your social security and Medicare money was ripped away from you. You weren't complaining that they government was spending said money on you then and now you are upset? That is very dishonest.
The only difference now is it looks like we might have a person in office who will be willing to speak plainly and tell you that there is not only any money left, but there hasn't been any for nearly 40 years.
Thanks AC for the correct term. Original Classification Authority. Couldn't remember it off the top of my head. You are absolutely correct including your observations about other agencies coming along later and classifying the info.
Take a look at my response above to quantaman for a more detailed answer.
The short story is that classifying material is not a one time deal. You have to go through the mental process every time information is sent or received or store it/handle it. Also 3/4 of anything she had to say to anyone else as acting SoS would be required to have a classification of some sort on it just because. She didn't do any of those things. So yes if she received classified material that wasn't properly marked she is still responsible for said material. That goes double if she forwards it on.
"Wouldn't the person who wrote down the classified information into an email (instead of the special system for transmitting classified information) be the one who was "criminal, lazy, or stupid"?
Yes but that only means they should be in the cell next to hers. As the Boss she would have been expected to get off her fat ass, go down the hall and kick the shit out of who ever was sending her emails improperly. She didn't do that.
Basic State Dept email, if it is at all similar to our military email. You could send and receive confidential email all day long as long as you encrypted it before you sent it. I'm sure she had access to the higher level systems as well, but they are a pain in the ass to set up and have to be physically secured (locked doors, safes,etc) which probably didn't jive with her "I'm Hillary hear me roar attitude", which is why we have this mess in the first place.
My time in the Air Force this was hammered home over and over again to all levels. Her claiming she didn't know is very difficult to believe since training is required every year and mandatory briefings on security procedure every quarter with monthly updates and reminders as well. If she pencil whipped her training and briefing requirements that is entirely on her and her Boss (The President) no one else can be blamed for this. Over the course of my career I held everything from a secret (run of the mill security clearance all military get), secret SAR (special access request for my time working on the B2 Bomber, more than a Secret less than a Top Secret), and Top Secret (Russian crypto-linguist which I didn't stay in because I sucked at learning Russian but still ended up with the clearance anyway since they took so long to do.)
I watched dozens of officers and enlisted loose their jobs of much more benign violations of security protocols than the stunts she pulled.
Let's define terms to start off with.
CONFIDENTIAL – Will be applied to information in which the unauthorized disclosure could reasonably be expected to cause damage to the national security.
SECRET – Will be applied to information in which the unauthorized disclosure could reasonably be expected to cause serious damage to the national security.
TOP SECRET – Will be applied to information in which the unauthorized disclosure could reasonably be expected to cause exceptionally grave damage to the national security.
Here are some examples to understand the different types of messages: "Hey Joe call work, pack a bag, you are probably going TDY tomorrow" not a problem by any method. "Hey Joe call work, pack a bag, we are sending you tonight TDY." Starting to edge into Confidential territory. "Hey Joe call work, pack a bag, we are sending you tonight to Krap-ic-stan" (we don't normally go there for any reason.) This is definitely confidential and maybe even higher. You can't talk about this stuff outside on non-gov't un-encrypted systems. "Hey Joe call work, pack your bag for a 6 month deployment to Krap-ic-stan. We are sending you and 30 other guys to an airfield to support 5 aircraft that are being sent there. This is most definitely Secret or higher now. You are not allowed to talk about this with anyone outside of work. You are not allowed to talk about this over unsecured networks. Email traffic has to be encrypted and only sent over the SIPR network (isolated secured network for Secret/Top Secret traffic) Anything higher level than that was way about my pay grade so if it exists I never saw it. "Hey Joe call work, pack your bag for a 6 month deployment to Krap-ic-stan. We are sending you and 30 other guys to an airfield to support 5 aircraft. There are 200 other people being sent from the squadrons A, B, and C along with the Spec-Op guys who will be supporting the Army who will in turn will be supporting the rebels in Krap-ic-stan to take down their dictator." This is most definitely now Secret (we've been doing this
They only were "retroactively" classified because she hadn't bothered at the time. She was a classifying agent as SoS. If she didn't know she was supposed to do that she was either criminal, lazy, or stupid. Pick one or more for the correct answer.
You are reading too deep into it. If you pick up a penny you have a penny. If you never pick up a penny because it is not at least $1000 then you will have gained nothing.
If you convert sewage into energy you'll have a bit more energy than you did before. If you won't do it until it can fully power all our energy needs then you will have gained nothing.
In other words its worth doing if it is profitable, but only if it is worth more than the time and effort to do it.
If that is the case then the whole thing is mostly bullshit. (Literally.) That would be the entire output of the US per day, and as you stated before too much of a pain the ass to do on a local scale. The big cities that have the most crap flowing might be candidates, since they have the quantities and the concentration, but the rest not so much.
The only small scale stuff I've heard of that makes more sense are the dairy ranchers that use the manure pits to generate methane gas which is directly fed into small generators (around 1000 watts) to make use of the gas that comes from the bacteria digesting the manure.
Yes you are technically correct, but it was more about earning the privilege of wielding the power of the collective. In a Fascist(Socialist) country your vote can harm others (you can vote to inflict laws, take away freedom/property, etc) You had to put your ass on the line before you were allowed to do so. Your personal individual danger maybe only symbolic in terms of society, but for you individually it is not.
You are correct about the best thing is to stop them from wanting to shoot at you in the first place. Being a pacifist will never stop evil people from trying to harm you, but the threat of massive violent, deadly retaliation will nearly always work. When it doesn't you do the next best thing and kill every last f-ing one of them....and then they won't try to shoot you anymore.
WWII Both the Nazis and the Japanese entertained ideas of landing forces on both coast to conduct terror attacks and sabotage. The heavily armed population is generally accepted to have had an impact on not putting those ideas into action. That and the hoards of US troops already pushing back in both theaters made it impractical to do so.
Of course we wouldn't have had to fight WW2 if there hadn't been so many damn pacifists in Europe and the US that let the Nazis rise to power and expand their territory. One or two small military smack downs as soon as they tried pushing the boundaries would have ended the whole thing before it got started.
No I don't like Fascism, aka Socialism, which is more or less the system we already have in the US.
Frankly we don't need to vote on much as it is. The basic rights are all taken care of. So not much voting needed there. So what do we vote on? That's right social programs, welfare (corporate/individual), and regulations. Things that are the foundation for Fascism (Socialism). (Social/welfare programs and corporatism)
IF we are stuck with said system then you should have to earn the right to wield such authority (violence) which was a point in both the movie and the book.
So you what you are saying is you like Fascism without responsibility. To each his own...I guess.
Currently there are 80 veterans in the House. 17 are Democrats.
Currently there are 26 veterans in the Senate. 14 are Democrats
Turns out Bush was a RINO (progressive) so we no longer claim him as a Republican. If you really hated his foreign policy you are going to love Hillary's even less. Turns out hers is EXACTLY the same as his only instead of only starting a war in Afghanistan/Iraq, she is going for the whole region (Syria, Libya, Egypt, Iraq, and Afghanistan) and is currently picking a fight with Russia.
Loved the book, and loved the movie, each for different reasons.
Would love to see a movie that was very true to the book, though I think a lot of liberals heads would explode at the concept of service meaning picking up a gun and standing between danger and society. That you can't vote or hold office till you serve and as a "civilian" (non-citizen) are only allowed to have 1 child.
Imagine if that was the world today. Nearly all the Democratic part and most of the Republican party would be fired from office/ineligible to vote.
That is the same argument people use to not pick up a penny. Until you do the math.
To stoop down and pick up a penny takes 1 sec. $.01 for 1 sec is equivalent to $36 per hour pay for 1 second.
I here the same argument for nickels ($180 per hour), dimes ($360 per hour), quarters ($900 per hour), dollar bills ($3,600 dollars per hour), 5 dollar bills ($18,000 per hour). People couldn't be bothered unless we were talking about $20 laying on the ground. ($72,000 per hour).
So let's see 32 million barrels of oil of sewage from 34 billion gallons of sewage. So typical smaller city for a year. (New York produces for perspective 474B gallons per year) 32 million times $44 dollar on the barrel. $1.34 BILLION dollars. (New York would net $18.6B per year vs their $78B budget. Doubt they would be interested.) Yeah I can't think of too many cities that would like those kinds of numbers added to their tax base, considering most cities OWN all the sewage by way of public utility and just already happen to be collecting it and oh yeah already fork out truck loads of money to get rid of it.
So what exactly are they doing again involving AIR that is so productive? Global warming studies? Hence my first joke/post. The only thing NASA should be coming up with is new and interesting ways to collect the data and conduct the science in air and space. There are plenty of colleges already getting too much grant money to burn on pointless Global warming studies..
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Most hated country? It won't be because we elected a populist leader, it'll be because we are about to shit can every crappy trade deal and treaty we've ever signed up for. The easy money from the US is about to dry up.
On the other side you have people who work for a living and are being taxed to pay for the global warming or just simply being regulated out of business. Currently they are being fucked over and no one is listening to them and their concerns at all.
We are about to see is that completely reversed. Is that good? Is that bad? We will see.
If the current race groups don't drop their race identity politics (supremacy/victimhood racism) by the time whites are minority, this country will be in a major civil war. White people are not going to put up with it. They are traditional gun owners, typically educated, and make up the bulk of the military and the farmers in this country. It will not end well for the urban populations that will seek to repress them.
Racism is not an argument. Try again.
Her entire foreign and domestic police was pretty much line for line Bush Jr's.
We owe people no more kindness/accommodation than they offer us in return. Lately I'm beginning to feel like the World's door mat/toilet as a US citizen, even in my own Country of all places. Like a great many of my fellow countryman, I am fucking sick of it.
In speeches, Hitler made apparently warm references towards Muslim culture such as: "The peoples of Islam will always be closer to us than, for example, France".
Hitler's apocalypse: Jews and the Nazi legacy, Robert S. Wistrich, Weidenfeld & Nicolson, 17 Oct 1985, page 59
Available: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Now I get what you are insinuating:
It's not going to be very fun being an illegal criminal from south of the border since they will be sent home in larger numbers. (Deported or jailed and then deported)
It's not going to be very fun being a non-criminal illegal from south of the border, since they too will be sent home in larger numbers. (Deported)
Being an American hating foreigner with ties to violent overseas groups, that for some odd reason rather live in the US than their own country of origin. Will be less than easy from now on. (Deported or never allowed to visit the US in the first place)
Being a Black Lives Matter rioter/looter will no longer be a free pass. Not talking about the people with the protest signs but the jackasses burning down everything and looting stores. (Jail or stand your ground CCP holders, also know as being gunned down in the street)
Being an unemployed social program free rider. (get a job or get kicked off)
Being a government bureaucrat used to big pay, big benefits, and lots of power. Pretty sure there is going to be a big surge in people from the FBI and Justice Dept.updating their Linkedin accounts here in a month or two.
The problem is those groups of people are no longer a small "minority" anymore. We are pretty close to parity, if we haven't already pushed passed it, on those that make verse those that take, and people are sick of it. Plenty of white people fall into those categories too, so save your non-arguments of racism for someone who believes that non-sense.
All that deficit spending that we've been seeing more less continuously (that brief blip during B. Clintons term was hardly a positive trend) since WW 2 (http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/debt_deficit_history) that was how your social security and Medicare money was ripped away from you. You weren't complaining that they government was spending said money on you then and now you are upset? That is very dishonest.
The only difference now is it looks like we might have a person in office who will be willing to speak plainly and tell you that there is not only any money left, but there hasn't been any for nearly 40 years.
Thanks AC for the correct term. Original Classification Authority. Couldn't remember it off the top of my head. You are absolutely correct including your observations about other agencies coming along later and classifying the info.
You are giant poop-poop head.
That wasn't supposed to be an argument, just an observation.
The short story is that classifying material is not a one time deal. You have to go through the mental process every time information is sent or received or store it/handle it. Also 3/4 of anything she had to say to anyone else as acting SoS would be required to have a classification of some sort on it just because. She didn't do any of those things. So yes if she received classified material that wasn't properly marked she is still responsible for said material. That goes double if she forwards it on.
Yes but that only means they should be in the cell next to hers. As the Boss she would have been expected to get off her fat ass, go down the hall and kick the shit out of who ever was sending her emails improperly. She didn't do that.
Basic State Dept email, if it is at all similar to our military email. You could send and receive confidential email all day long as long as you encrypted it before you sent it. I'm sure she had access to the higher level systems as well, but they are a pain in the ass to set up and have to be physically secured (locked doors, safes,etc) which probably didn't jive with her "I'm Hillary hear me roar attitude", which is why we have this mess in the first place.
My time in the Air Force this was hammered home over and over again to all levels. Her claiming she didn't know is very difficult to believe since training is required every year and mandatory briefings on security procedure every quarter with monthly updates and reminders as well. If she pencil whipped her training and briefing requirements that is entirely on her and her Boss (The President) no one else can be blamed for this. Over the course of my career I held everything from a secret (run of the mill security clearance all military get), secret SAR (special access request for my time working on the B2 Bomber, more than a Secret less than a Top Secret), and Top Secret (Russian crypto-linguist which I didn't stay in because I sucked at learning Russian but still ended up with the clearance anyway since they took so long to do.)
I watched dozens of officers and enlisted loose their jobs of much more benign violations of security protocols than the stunts she pulled.
Let's define terms to start off with.
CONFIDENTIAL – Will be applied to information in which the unauthorized disclosure could reasonably be expected to cause damage to the national security.
SECRET – Will be applied to information in which the unauthorized disclosure could reasonably be expected to cause serious damage to the national security.
TOP SECRET – Will be applied to information in which the unauthorized disclosure could reasonably be expected to cause exceptionally grave damage to the national security.
Here are some examples to understand the different types of messages:
"Hey Joe call work, pack a bag, you are probably going TDY tomorrow" not a problem by any method.
"Hey Joe call work, pack a bag, we are sending you tonight TDY." Starting to edge into Confidential territory.
"Hey Joe call work, pack a bag, we are sending you tonight to Krap-ic-stan" (we don't normally go there for any reason.) This is definitely confidential and maybe even higher. You can't talk about this stuff outside on non-gov't un-encrypted systems.
"Hey Joe call work, pack your bag for a 6 month deployment to Krap-ic-stan. We are sending you and 30 other guys to an airfield to support 5 aircraft that are being sent there. This is most definitely Secret or higher now. You are not allowed to talk about this with anyone outside of work. You are not allowed to talk about this over unsecured networks. Email traffic has to be encrypted and only sent over the SIPR network (isolated secured network for Secret/Top Secret traffic) Anything higher level than that was way about my pay grade so if it exists I never saw it.
"Hey Joe call work, pack your bag for a 6 month deployment to Krap-ic-stan. We are sending you and 30 other guys to an airfield to support 5 aircraft. There are 200 other people being sent from the squadrons A, B, and C along with the Spec-Op guys who will be supporting the Army who will in turn will be supporting the rebels in Krap-ic-stan to take down their dictator." This is most definitely now Secret (we've been doing this
They only were "retroactively" classified because she hadn't bothered at the time. She was a classifying agent as SoS. If she didn't know she was supposed to do that she was either criminal, lazy, or stupid. Pick one or more for the correct answer.
If you convert sewage into energy you'll have a bit more energy than you did before. If you won't do it until it can fully power all our energy needs then you will have gained nothing.
In other words its worth doing if it is profitable, but only if it is worth more than the time and effort to do it.
The only small scale stuff I've heard of that makes more sense are the dairy ranchers that use the manure pits to generate methane gas which is directly fed into small generators (around 1000 watts) to make use of the gas that comes from the bacteria digesting the manure.
You are correct about the best thing is to stop them from wanting to shoot at you in the first place. Being a pacifist will never stop evil people from trying to harm you, but the threat of massive violent, deadly retaliation will nearly always work. When it doesn't you do the next best thing and kill every last f-ing one of them....and then they won't try to shoot you anymore.
Johnny Rico was not a white boy in the book. They may have changed it in later editions of the book. I read it back in the 80's.
1898 Spanish American War
WWII Both the Nazis and the Japanese entertained ideas of landing forces on both coast to conduct terror attacks and sabotage. The heavily armed population is generally accepted to have had an impact on not putting those ideas into action. That and the hoards of US troops already pushing back in both theaters made it impractical to do so.
Of course we wouldn't have had to fight WW2 if there hadn't been so many damn pacifists in Europe and the US that let the Nazis rise to power and expand their territory. One or two small military smack downs as soon as they tried pushing the boundaries would have ended the whole thing before it got started.
Frankly we don't need to vote on much as it is. The basic rights are all taken care of. So not much voting needed there. So what do we vote on? That's right social programs, welfare (corporate/individual), and regulations. Things that are the foundation for Fascism (Socialism). (Social/welfare programs and corporatism)
IF we are stuck with said system then you should have to earn the right to wield such authority (violence) which was a point in both the movie and the book.
So you what you are saying is you like Fascism without responsibility. To each his own...I guess.
Currently there are 80 veterans in the House. 17 are Democrats.
Currently there are 26 veterans in the Senate. 14 are Democrats
Turns out Bush was a RINO (progressive) so we no longer claim him as a Republican. If you really hated his foreign policy you are going to love Hillary's even less. Turns out hers is EXACTLY the same as his only instead of only starting a war in Afghanistan/Iraq, she is going for the whole region (Syria, Libya, Egypt, Iraq, and Afghanistan) and is currently picking a fight with Russia.
Would love to see a movie that was very true to the book, though I think a lot of liberals heads would explode at the concept of service meaning picking up a gun and standing between danger and society. That you can't vote or hold office till you serve and as a "civilian" (non-citizen) are only allowed to have 1 child.
Imagine if that was the world today. Nearly all the Democratic part and most of the Republican party would be fired from office/ineligible to vote.
To stoop down and pick up a penny takes 1 sec. $.01 for 1 sec is equivalent to $36 per hour pay for 1 second.
I here the same argument for nickels ($180 per hour), dimes ($360 per hour), quarters ($900 per hour), dollar bills ($3,600 dollars per hour), 5 dollar bills ($18,000 per hour). People couldn't be bothered unless we were talking about $20 laying on the ground. ($72,000 per hour).
So let's see 32 million barrels of oil of sewage from 34 billion gallons of sewage. So typical smaller city for a year. (New York produces for perspective 474B gallons per year) 32 million times $44 dollar on the barrel. $1.34 BILLION dollars. (New York would net $18.6B per year vs their $78B budget. Doubt they would be interested.) Yeah I can't think of too many cities that would like those kinds of numbers added to their tax base, considering most cities OWN all the sewage by way of public utility and just already happen to be collecting it and oh yeah already fork out truck loads of money to get rid of it.
Not worth doing you say? Dumb idea you say?
and I just officially announced I will never, nor will any of the children in my household ever be using said service.
So what exactly are they doing again involving AIR that is so productive? Global warming studies? Hence my first joke/post. The only thing NASA should be coming up with is new and interesting ways to collect the data and conduct the science in air and space. There are plenty of colleges already getting too much grant money to burn on pointless Global warming studies..