The difference is when you have insurance the hospital gets paid and can charge everyone fairly. Rather than making me pay for the bills of others with $15 aspirin.
Yeah, I saw that too. The thing is people would pay far out the behind for that. You put one in each population center and you collect the money from them while living on the space station.
I have seen the same thing here. Hell, I was pretty angsty as I waited for the CAT scan when they thought I might be bleeding into my brain. Turns out the hospital only had one and it was in use.
Yeah, if you could make such a machine they would be on street corners. People would be lined up around the block and willing to feed it any money they had.
There is a natural limit to this sort of thing. Once it gets too bad and people find themselves with nothing to lose they tend to murder some rich folks.
I have only seen the trailers of Elysium but it looks like he works making the robots the rich use to oppress the poor. At some point people would stop doing those jobs and start actively sabotaging things like resupply ships to the space station.
The only article that even seems to come close is one from the Daily Mail. As usual they do not cite their sources nor do they get commentary from anyone but an alarmist charity.
How about some actual citations?
The Daily Mail has had people make up stories to fit their viewpoint.
What will happen next is you will end up in the ER for a real medical condition, the hospital will write it off and I and other taxpayers will be stuck paying. If you are very lucky someone like my mother will get the hospital to transfer you from the ER to a regular bed and they will pay for your treatment as an act of charity. Then the hospital will have even more cost to write off and for the rest of us to pay. If you are less lucky you will be treated only in the ER and released to die at home. Cheaper for the taxpayer, but clearly not the superior choice.
Where did you get these numbers? Their are low cost plans for those who cannot pay.
The pre-Obamacare was better how? You liked them retroactively canceling coverage? Maybe you thought it fun that many folks could not get coverage at all or not at a price lower than their income?
Reducing what is covered by minimal health insurance? Are you high? They had to increase it since many of those plans took your money and gave you nearly nothing. How would you like to hit a ceiling on lifetime costs when you get cancer?
Campus health care is often a scam. The University is getting a kickback for signing you up. They want the cheapest plans for the employees they care about, not some grad students.
$340 is not a BMW payment, more like a normal car payment for a normal term loan. A cheaper BMW like the base 3 series sedan goes for $32550, a 60 month term at 1% interest would result in a $556.40 monthly payment.
Minimum coverage costs have gone up now that minimum coverage actually has to cover something. Some of those very cheap plans had low lifetime cost ceilings. Meaning when you needed it most, like you had a major medical problem, you would run out of insurance coverage.
Those kinds of cover ups exist here too. Private doctors working for a private hospital killed my grandfather. They misdiagnosed him repeatedly and failed to properly treat him even for what they misdiagnosed him with.
The likely difference here is that you will never hear of that case due to NDAs and settlements. The NHS can't do that, so you eventually hear about it.
Interstate commerce is something the feds are supposed to regulate. If a state has a health care code being used to prevent Interstate commerce make them fix it.
Why can't I at least opt for it if I have a "good plan". I have had this "good plan" and actual socialised medicine. I would love to go back to that system. Instead of finding out if my treatment will be covered or not only after it has happened.
Heart surgery was first done in the 50s. Organ transplants started in the 1900s, but major organs like kidneys in the 1950s. Joint replacement was a little earlier in the we were replacing hips by 1948.
They were less common, but by 1974 all those were happening.
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I totally agree, I was just pointing out that treatment of the water is not always needed.
The difference is when you have insurance the hospital gets paid and can charge everyone fairly. Rather than making me pay for the bills of others with $15 aspirin.
Yeah, I saw that too.
The thing is people would pay far out the behind for that. You put one in each population center and you collect the money from them while living on the space station.
I agree, so saying that only Marxists recognize that fact is pretty stupid.
No, it is illegal to perform it in public.
Water is clean in the ground. Well water is often not treated at all before consumption. Go out to the country and talk to people who have wells.
There are many OS that are FREE.
You appear to need a new keyboard, your shift key is broken.
I have seen the same thing here. Hell, I was pretty angsty as I waited for the CAT scan when they thought I might be bleeding into my brain. Turns out the hospital only had one and it was in use.
Supply is not unlimited anywhere.
Yeah, if you could make such a machine they would be on street corners. People would be lined up around the block and willing to feed it any money they had.
The notion that hard work will not guarantee you become rich is Marxist?
You really want to go with that answer?
There is a natural limit to this sort of thing. Once it gets too bad and people find themselves with nothing to lose they tend to murder some rich folks.
I have only seen the trailers of Elysium but it looks like he works making the robots the rich use to oppress the poor. At some point people would stop doing those jobs and start actively sabotaging things like resupply ships to the space station.
I would assume this fellow is, since he stated he would have to stop eating to pay that.
Then he could also pay the fine. Why there is no public option I still do not understand.
Sucks to be me you mean. For you will still get care at least ER care, and I will have to pay for it.
The Supremes did not find it unconstitutional. Where did you practice law if you think you know better than them?
The English do not tout the NHS as the pinnacle of Socialism. Most of them rather not use that last word at all.
I think your image of this is warped by your sources of information. I suggest you try visiting England.
In the USA you will never hear about it.
The relatives will all be under NDAs and the hospital will simply move the doctors around.
So I fail to see the difference. The only one I do notice is that their is a federal cover up organization rather than each hospital having their own.
The other option of course being what we have in the USA that people simply die from lack of treatment.
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/insurance-24-year-dies-toothache/story?id=14438171
Before you claim that man was stupid try to remember the pain he was in. No one makes good decisions in that kind of state.
The only article that even seems to come close is one from the Daily Mail. As usual they do not cite their sources nor do they get commentary from anyone but an alarmist charity.
How about some actual citations?
The Daily Mail has had people make up stories to fit their viewpoint.
http://www.poynter.org/latest-news/regret-the-error/173261/daily-mail-reporter-cant-explain-how-false-report-got-published/
What will happen next is you will end up in the ER for a real medical condition, the hospital will write it off and I and other taxpayers will be stuck paying. If you are very lucky someone like my mother will get the hospital to transfer you from the ER to a regular bed and they will pay for your treatment as an act of charity. Then the hospital will have even more cost to write off and for the rest of us to pay.
If you are less lucky you will be treated only in the ER and released to die at home. Cheaper for the taxpayer, but clearly not the superior choice.
Where did you get these numbers? Their are low cost plans for those who cannot pay.
Because no one donates stuff to American hospitals?
That seems to contradict reality. Hospitals often get donations of money or equipment here in the USA.
The pre-Obamacare was better how?
You liked them retroactively canceling coverage? Maybe you thought it fun that many folks could not get coverage at all or not at a price lower than their income?
Reducing what is covered by minimal health insurance?
Are you high? They had to increase it since many of those plans took your money and gave you nearly nothing. How would you like to hit a ceiling on lifetime costs when you get cancer?
Campus health care is often a scam. The University is getting a kickback for signing you up. They want the cheapest plans for the employees they care about, not some grad students.
$340 is not a BMW payment, more like a normal car payment for a normal term loan. A cheaper BMW like the base 3 series sedan goes for $32550, a 60 month term at 1% interest would result in a $556.40 monthly payment.
Minimum coverage costs have gone up now that minimum coverage actually has to cover something. Some of those very cheap plans had low lifetime cost ceilings. Meaning when you needed it most, like you had a major medical problem, you would run out of insurance coverage.
Those kinds of cover ups exist here too. Private doctors working for a private hospital killed my grandfather. They misdiagnosed him repeatedly and failed to properly treat him even for what they misdiagnosed him with.
The likely difference here is that you will never hear of that case due to NDAs and settlements. The NHS can't do that, so you eventually hear about it.
Why voluntary?
Interstate commerce is something the feds are supposed to regulate. If a state has a health care code being used to prevent Interstate commerce make them fix it.
Where did that money go?
What are the odds that 26 year olds were the cause?
Someone is pocketing it and telling you that Obamacare is the reason instead of a good excuse.
Why can't I at least opt for it if I have a "good plan". I have had this "good plan" and actual socialised medicine. I would love to go back to that system. Instead of finding out if my treatment will be covered or not only after it has happened.
A public option should have been made available.
Heart surgery was first done in the 50s.
Organ transplants started in the 1900s, but major organs like kidneys in the 1950s.
Joint replacement was a little earlier in the we were replacing hips by 1948.
They were less common, but by 1974 all those were happening.
Lighter is good, means flatter shooting.
It has been well proven, by many shooters including me.