then go move to china, north korea, russia, or an EU member.. There are plenty of countries run by those with your mindset. I don't want it deciding what's right for america.
What do you propose? that I lie on the floor like a coward and hope he doesn't shoot me in the back out of contempt after he's done robbing me? Who are you to state the value of my 'stuff'? My family? my rights? my dignity? Look at it another way, don't invade peoples' homes if you value your life. That makes a lot more pragmatic sense than some kind of neo-hippie stockholm syndrome attitude towards violence.
People that reason like you make me wonder what passes for common sense taught in public school, and what passes for critical thinking skills at university these days. Ideology seems to matter a lot more than reality, and that scares me more than any NRA gun nut.
Why do people get modded up as insightful for spouting the same old NRA propaganda?
The same reason people get modded up for spouting the same old fallacy ridden anti-gun left-wing propaganda? Fanboi moderators.
And what's with this view that being able to shoot someone who wrongs you is better than the tiny risk of being robbed? Seriously? People with that view are exactly who I don't want having weapons anywhere near me.
Protip. Everything around you is a potential weapon. Maybe you should remove the knives from your kitchen, shut off your electricity, remove all glass, tools, power equipment, cars, and chop off your hands and feet.
There's a reason 'feeling safe' is not a right or entitlement, nor should it be either. It's impractical and nonsensical.
You might consider also taking your own advice about NPR, CNN, ABC, NBC, and the NYT. Along with fox, none of these are real news sources anymore. They're propagandists that tow the party line of their financial backers.
The gp should not have been labeled troll. Moderators need to learn what 'troll' actually means. It does not meant to be a label for statements that piss you off.
Fine, I'll support more gun control, when washington shows a significant track record of restraint and respect when it comes to civil liberties..for at least half a century. Their activities to date have been anything but. Of course, the parties pushing for more control are the same ones that want more control everywhere else too...and this comes from someone who doesn't own firearms.
So? he would've used an improvised bomb or some other method if he couldn't get access to firearms. People intent on things like this have crazy amounts of focus and motivation. The guns were just the easiest available method. Make them not the easiest available method and something else (possibly more deadly) becomes the easiest.
The only way to have stopped this nutcase was to put him in prison (or confinement) at the first sign he might be "unstable". Now, you might be imprisoning a lot of people who don't fit YOUR definition of stable, and who wouldn't ever kill anyone, but if you can stop the death of 20 schoolchildren by putting a million oddballs into prison, isn't it worth it?
Uh no. this will just build up hysteria driven witch hunts based on all kinds of fallacies. The result would be catastrophic to any last semblances of freedom/liberty we have right now. The fact is, thousands of children die every day. While sad, turning our 'house' inside out over it won't solve anything. It'll just make our lives miserable. In fact, I'll bet the reason for lanza's behavior has more to do with passive aggressive social dynamics (and the resultant new laws/restrictions) and economic stress (working more hours to compensate for a falling dollar/increased taxation), than it does with access to firearms or insufficient mass profiling. In fact, the latter is an example of a stressor for those who are informed about it.
If he was a minor, yes.. He was 20+. There is no one to blame but him, no matter what the knee-jerkers around here say. This blame-chaining just creates witch hunts that solve nothing and prolong mass hysteria.
How is gambling sociopathic? It's stupid, I'll agree with you there, but sociopathic? I think that word's thrown around too much these days as sophistic ad hom at specific behaviors/activities.
maybe..but that might suggest that modern day 'business sense' is part of the reason why the economy is tanking. I've seen countless examples of technology companies using the sell-a-turd-as-a-diamond marketing for new products, then, when they don't sell, killing their existing successful products which compete with them, then posting butthurt blogs whining about their lost 'vision' 12 months later as they circle the drain.
It seems most of the effort today is poured into marketing service constrained 'property' instead of selling quality goods that allow customers to own the intrinsic value. So the only way they can compete is to turn up the marketing rhetoric knob to 11 and hope they can grab the largest group of mouth breathers who don't realize what they're (not) getting.. This dynamic range has largely been filled and we're leveling out at +0db with tons of clipping. The exquisite layering of fallacy and appeals to social insecurity in modern advertising has reached mind numbing levels. It seriously can't get much worse than it is now.. It's whitenoise.
The slashdot nerd archetype isn't necessarily not business savvy because he's wrong.. He isn't considered business savvy because he's actually more closely tied to reality than today's average marketing department, corporate officer, or consumer. Now THAT should scare us all.
1. passive dedup could be done in userland using a script. big deal..
2. fs level crc/hashing already exists in ext4, but it is a recent feature. It's recent in windows too, so I don't see how either should be considered stable or reliable.
3. There are hardware crypto chips available which have drivers in linux, but I wouldn't trust them any more than TPM. If you're going to use crypto at the enterprise level, at least use something that you can have verified.
4. define 'joke'. what is lacking with linux lvm2? Most raid solutions in enterprise servers are hardware anyway.
5. logging is one of the most confusing messes ever on windows. this has been true since NT4 at least.. most of it is meaningless boilerplate that doesn't really tell you anything. If you're lucky, you get a hex string to shove into a search engine so you can join discussions on forums of people guessing at the problem just like you. Like managing the registry (vs text in/etc), it's mostly unsearchable without 3rd party tools and offers no more resistance to tampering than any other OS, but if you just mean the auditors give windows a free pass because it's the entrenched standard, you're right. --
linux/bsd positives non all inclusive list.
1. sensible, flexible, searchable logging system that can be as verbose or as cryptic/dense as desired. 2. self contained services, each with manageable configurations.. easy to backup/propagate to many machines. 3. flexible thinclient configurability, from netboot disk images of standard distros to complete custom builds for each netboot device type. windows' botches this with remote desktop and licensing nonsense. Its nonsensical directory structure doesn't help either. the default windows installer ties the install to the specific machine and is not easily imageable without use of microsoft-designed hackneyed tools. 4. sensible install/uninstall tracking. windows has always been terrible at this. 5. No licensing auditors! 6. for intractable problems, having the sourcecode helps immensely. of course, this requires admins who actually know something about what they're administrating. with windows, unless you're a fortune 100 or better, you don't get that kind of attention from microsoft or any of its 3rd party 'solution providers', which do little more than patch serious functionality lapses in the base microsoft products, for exorbitant fees of course. 7. open source crypto engine with a variety of ciphers and hashing algos. Take your pick.. The admin can crypt a single directory, partition, or whole disk. the open part is key here since who the hell knows if there are backdoors in bitlocker or the TPM. It would not surprise me if there were. By using crypto, you admit you're paranoid, so why not go all the way and have the source verified by an entity you trust (or have it done in house)? 8. no upgrade treadmill.. upgrade as quickly or as slowly as you like. no pressure.
A bit fallacious no? Corporate officers are hardly objective when it comes to choosing IT infrastructure, esp when they have no knowledge of it beyond advertising, slick presentations, and from watching hollywood movies as children.
Anyway, windows' ubiquity might also be a factor in why remote intrusions are so commonplace.
no it wouldn't be the trigger...by itself.. but you have lots of these little actions justifying each other with precedence and then you do have totalitarianism.
the problem with that is 'hate speech' is a subjective term. The 'victims' can (and do) claim pretty much anything the assumed 'oppressor' class says about them is 'hate' in order to silence them. This results in massive across-the-board censorship along with toxic levels of passive aggressive behavior as the involved factions struggle around the now made-illegal blunt, objective expression. This is a net negative for society and is why speech should not be a crime, period.
Societies that consider certain speech as a crime are really just waaay too sensitive. We don't need laws to protect each other from ad hom attacks and other fallacies. They only serve to keep us lazy instead of looking at things logically and objectively. A society that does that would be immune to 'hate speech.' I do not advocate a utopia, but any rules we do set up should encourage this default.
That's unlikely. They will be kept off private grounds. Compassion is nice, but it doesn't justify trashing liberties for heat-of-the-moment emotional satisfaction.
No it doesn't. 'misuse' gets defined by those hating the message who manage to garner 'authority'. This authority is then what ruins it for everyone. Be careful. Authority figures use 'blame chain' unlogic whenever they want to dictate badly thought out, yet emotionally satisfying policy.
If you demand censure of someone's speech, you allow him a loophole to demand the censure of yours. Westboro baptist' right to free speech is the same right we all share. Attack theirs and you attack everyone elses, including your own. This right is far more important than the melodrama they cause..
I think westboro baptist is a joke. They should not be taken seriously. 90% of the 'bandwidth' given to their message comes from the overly sensitive sorts when they demand legal protections for their butthurt feelings on national tv. Just ignore them.. They're morons who are not worth losing liberties over.
so, because the power balance is lopsided, your solution is to make it more lopsided? What the fuck kind of reasoning is that?
Passive resistance doesn't work when your enemy doesn't respect the rules. I think western culture has become too soft and gynocentric to remember or accept this fact, and is why it is unable to deal with problems like the middle east.
It's theoretically possible to do this, but then your precious children would grow up to live in a police state culture, rife with passive aggression and general misery/paranoia. there's a reason soviet era russians were stereotyped as paranoid.
In fact, I'd say you're already getting your wish.
great, so when the USA finishes collapsing in on itself and explodes outward, you'll won't be ready to defend your country from desperate US citizens nor from federal government policy. Your regulations make your gun useless.
He's offering a counter example. It's the same argument the anti-gun hippies apply to guns, just applied to computers. It's an attempt to get you to understand. I don't think he actually agrees with it.
He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent which will reach to himself. - Thomas Paine
Basically, once a hole is punched and a precedent is set, it snowballs from there into an avalanche that attacks ever bigger chunks of freedom for ever smaller returns on 'safety.' I think this is a big part of why society is so stressed. Too many senseless rules passed by the timid and the opportunistic.
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then go move to china, north korea, russia, or an EU member.. There are plenty of countries run by those with your mindset. I don't want it deciding what's right for america.
What do you propose? that I lie on the floor like a coward and hope he doesn't shoot me in the back out of contempt after he's done robbing me? Who are you to state the value of my 'stuff'? My family? my rights? my dignity? Look at it another way, don't invade peoples' homes if you value your life. That makes a lot more pragmatic sense than some kind of neo-hippie stockholm syndrome attitude towards violence.
People that reason like you make me wonder what passes for common sense taught in public school, and what passes for critical thinking skills at university these days. Ideology seems to matter a lot more than reality, and that scares me more than any NRA gun nut.
Why do people get modded up as insightful for spouting the same old NRA propaganda?
The same reason people get modded up for spouting the same old fallacy ridden anti-gun left-wing propaganda? Fanboi moderators.
And what's with this view that being able to shoot someone who wrongs you is better than the tiny risk of being robbed? Seriously? People with that view are exactly who I don't want having weapons anywhere near me.
Protip. Everything around you is a potential weapon. Maybe you should remove the knives from your kitchen, shut off your electricity, remove all glass, tools, power equipment, cars, and chop off your hands and feet.
There's a reason 'feeling safe' is not a right or entitlement, nor should it be either. It's impractical and nonsensical.
You might consider also taking your own advice about NPR, CNN, ABC, NBC, and the NYT. Along with fox, none of these are real news sources anymore. They're propagandists that tow the party line of their financial backers.
The gp should not have been labeled troll. Moderators need to learn what 'troll' actually means. It does not meant to be a label for statements that piss you off.
Fine, I'll support more gun control, when washington shows a significant track record of restraint and respect when it comes to civil liberties..for at least half a century. Their activities to date have been anything but. Of course, the parties pushing for more control are the same ones that want more control everywhere else too. ..and this comes from someone who doesn't own firearms.
So? he would've used an improvised bomb or some other method if he couldn't get access to firearms. People intent on things like this have crazy amounts of focus and motivation. The guns were just the easiest available method. Make them not the easiest available method and something else (possibly more deadly) becomes the easiest.
The only way to have stopped this nutcase was to put him in prison (or confinement) at the first sign he might be "unstable". Now, you might be imprisoning a lot of people who don't fit YOUR definition of stable, and who wouldn't ever kill anyone, but if you can stop the death of 20 schoolchildren by putting a million oddballs into prison, isn't it worth it?
Uh no. this will just build up hysteria driven witch hunts based on all kinds of fallacies. The result would be catastrophic to any last semblances of freedom/liberty we have right now. The fact is, thousands of children die every day. While sad, turning our 'house' inside out over it won't solve anything. It'll just make our lives miserable. In fact, I'll bet the reason for lanza's behavior has more to do with passive aggressive social dynamics (and the resultant new laws/restrictions) and economic stress (working more hours to compensate for a falling dollar/increased taxation), than it does with access to firearms or insufficient mass profiling. In fact, the latter is an example of a stressor for those who are informed about it.
If he was a minor, yes.. He was 20+. There is no one to blame but him, no matter what the knee-jerkers around here say. This blame-chaining just creates witch hunts that solve nothing and prolong mass hysteria.
How is gambling sociopathic? It's stupid, I'll agree with you there, but sociopathic? I think that word's thrown around too much these days as sophistic ad hom at specific behaviors/activities.
Anyway, the rest of your post makes sense to me..
maybe..but that might suggest that modern day 'business sense' is part of the reason why the economy is tanking. I've seen countless examples of technology companies using the sell-a-turd-as-a-diamond marketing for new products, then, when they don't sell, killing their existing successful products which compete with them, then posting butthurt blogs whining about their lost 'vision' 12 months later as they circle the drain.
It seems most of the effort today is poured into marketing service constrained 'property' instead of selling quality goods that allow customers to own the intrinsic value. So the only way they can compete is to turn up the marketing rhetoric knob to 11 and hope they can grab the largest group of mouth breathers who don't realize what they're (not) getting.. This dynamic range has largely been filled and we're leveling out at +0db with tons of clipping. The exquisite layering of fallacy and appeals to social insecurity in modern advertising has reached mind numbing levels. It seriously can't get much worse than it is now.. It's whitenoise.
The slashdot nerd archetype isn't necessarily not business savvy because he's wrong.. He isn't considered business savvy because he's actually more closely tied to reality than today's average marketing department, corporate officer, or consumer. Now THAT should scare us all.
1. passive dedup could be done in userland using a script. big deal..
2. fs level crc/hashing already exists in ext4, but it is a recent feature. It's recent in windows too, so I don't see how either should be considered stable or reliable.
3. There are hardware crypto chips available which have drivers in linux, but I wouldn't trust them any more than TPM. If you're going to use crypto at the enterprise level, at least use something that you can have verified.
4. define 'joke'. what is lacking with linux lvm2? Most raid solutions in enterprise servers are hardware anyway.
5. logging is one of the most confusing messes ever on windows. this has been true since NT4 at least.. most of it is meaningless boilerplate that doesn't really tell you anything. If you're lucky, you get a hex string to shove into a search engine so you can join discussions on forums of people guessing at the problem just like you. Like managing the registry (vs text in /etc), it's mostly unsearchable without 3rd party tools and offers no more resistance to tampering than any other OS, but if you just mean the auditors give windows a free pass because it's the entrenched standard, you're right.
--
linux/bsd positives non all inclusive list.
1. sensible, flexible, searchable logging system that can be as verbose or as cryptic/dense as desired.
2. self contained services, each with manageable configurations.. easy to backup/propagate to many machines.
3. flexible thinclient configurability, from netboot disk images of standard distros to complete custom builds for each netboot device type. windows' botches this with remote desktop and licensing nonsense. Its nonsensical directory structure doesn't help either. the default windows installer ties the install to the specific machine and is not easily imageable without use of microsoft-designed hackneyed tools.
4. sensible install/uninstall tracking. windows has always been terrible at this.
5. No licensing auditors!
6. for intractable problems, having the sourcecode helps immensely. of course, this requires admins who actually know something about what they're administrating. with windows, unless you're a fortune 100 or better, you don't get that kind of attention from microsoft or any of its 3rd party 'solution providers', which do little more than patch serious functionality lapses in the base microsoft products, for exorbitant fees of course.
7. open source crypto engine with a variety of ciphers and hashing algos. Take your pick.. The admin can crypt a single directory, partition, or whole disk. the open part is key here since who the hell knows if there are backdoors in bitlocker or the TPM. It would not surprise me if there were. By using crypto, you admit you're paranoid, so why not go all the way and have the source verified by an entity you trust (or have it done in house)?
8. no upgrade treadmill.. upgrade as quickly or as slowly as you like. no pressure.
A bit fallacious no? Corporate officers are hardly objective when it comes to choosing IT infrastructure, esp when they have no knowledge of it beyond advertising, slick presentations, and from watching hollywood movies as children.
Anyway, windows' ubiquity might also be a factor in why remote intrusions are so commonplace.
more proof for the Judge Idiocracy Theorem.
one shouldn't harass people at a funeral. that doesn't mean it should be illegal.
no it wouldn't be the trigger...by itself.. but you have lots of these little actions justifying each other with precedence and then you do have totalitarianism.
the problem with that is 'hate speech' is a subjective term. The 'victims' can (and do) claim pretty much anything the assumed 'oppressor' class says about them is 'hate' in order to silence them. This results in massive across-the-board censorship along with toxic levels of passive aggressive behavior as the involved factions struggle around the now made-illegal blunt, objective expression. This is a net negative for society and is why speech should not be a crime, period.
Societies that consider certain speech as a crime are really just waaay too sensitive. We don't need laws to protect each other from ad hom attacks and other fallacies. They only serve to keep us lazy instead of looking at things logically and objectively. A society that does that would be immune to 'hate speech.' I do not advocate a utopia, but any rules we do set up should encourage this default.
That's unlikely. They will be kept off private grounds. Compassion is nice, but it doesn't justify trashing liberties for heat-of-the-moment emotional satisfaction.
No it doesn't. 'misuse' gets defined by those hating the message who manage to garner 'authority'. This authority is then what ruins it for everyone. Be careful. Authority figures use 'blame chain' unlogic whenever they want to dictate badly thought out, yet emotionally satisfying policy.
If you demand censure of someone's speech, you allow him a loophole to demand the censure of yours. Westboro baptist' right to free speech is the same right we all share. Attack theirs and you attack everyone elses, including your own. This right is far more important than the melodrama they cause..
I think westboro baptist is a joke. They should not be taken seriously. 90% of the 'bandwidth' given to their message comes from the overly sensitive sorts when they demand legal protections for their butthurt feelings on national tv. Just ignore them.. They're morons who are not worth losing liberties over.
so, because the power balance is lopsided, your solution is to make it more lopsided? What the fuck kind of reasoning is that?
Passive resistance doesn't work when your enemy doesn't respect the rules. I think western culture has become too soft and gynocentric to remember or accept this fact, and is why it is unable to deal with problems like the middle east.
It's theoretically possible to do this, but then your precious children would grow up to live in a police state culture, rife with passive aggression and general misery/paranoia. there's a reason soviet era russians were stereotyped as paranoid.
In fact, I'd say you're already getting your wish.
great, so when the USA finishes collapsing in on itself and explodes outward, you'll won't be ready to defend your country from desperate US citizens nor from federal government policy. Your regulations make your gun useless.
He's offering a counter example. It's the same argument the anti-gun hippies apply to guns, just applied to computers. It's an attempt to get you to understand. I don't think he actually agrees with it.
Kinda redundant.. Pretty much any firearm is all that's needed, since schools are mandated to be unprotected target rich zones.
He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent which will reach to himself. - Thomas Paine
Basically, once a hole is punched and a precedent is set, it snowballs from there into an avalanche that attacks ever bigger chunks of freedom for ever smaller returns on 'safety.' I think this is a big part of why society is so stressed. Too many senseless rules passed by the timid and the opportunistic.