However your last paragraph bring up the idea that is still must be possible, and easy for 'power users'. Nobody seems to be able to solve the problem of a gui that is intuitive and simple for the average user, but that will scale up to the needs of a 'power user'.
An added bonus would be a gui that made it easy for people to develop their abillity easily with little effort.
while it was most definatly political and ecomonical, I think the real reason that it happened was that NASA had begun to feel invincible. There was a risk involved, and they knew it, but had they actually thought that it could happen to them, then they would not have done it. They would have know that disaster would set them back 10 years, but like all of us in our youth, we did not think it would happen. As with the first Apollo deaths, this was a time of great maturity for NASA, as they coped with the poor decision that they made.
I think it will be a long time before NASA makes another decision like that, but like all great tragities of history, it is up to us to learn from these mistakes. Like holocaust surivivor elie wiesel has said, you only honour the dead if you help assure it will never happen again.
Real encyclopedias are controlled by editorial boards that provide unbiased, fair and reasonable content. Judging from slashdot, and RMS' personal opinions I would conclude that is encyclodepia would be quite biased. In order to be of any use, it will have to be unbiased. If stallman is any judge of why people write free software, contributors will not want to write for it unless they can influence others opinions. We can see this right on the page with the comment about the "GNU system", sometimes called linux.
Is this really the type of encyclopedia that you would want?
The problem with any public moderation system is that it tends to promote posts that agree with general consensus, and stifle any other opinion. I have seen this time and time again on slashdot, and it leads to a closed minded discussion based on a single idea of what is right and what is wrong.
This is especially apperent on topics based around opinions, such as politics. As someone with a many opinions that do not agree with the far left majority of slashdot, I consistently see perfectly valid points and opinions moderated down, or never moderated up, just because they do not agree.
By only seeing one side of the story it is impossible to get a fair view of the situation, and a now biased personal opinion cannot form. This manifests itself into a closed minded group of people, moving farther and further in one direction, leaving reason and individuality behind.
>this is the same Church that took nearly two
>millenia to finally admit that Galileo was
>correct.
This is just confusing. Galileo lived in the 16th century, i hope that was a poorly done hyperbole.
>Up until the horrible Crusades
You have to understand that the underlying reason for the crusades was to unite Europe. Without them it Europe may still be a land run by thousands of small feudal lords, and the renaissance would not have happened. The problem was that far more people with no millitary training showed up than expected, and mob mentality carried on from there.
Some people spend so much time trying to hurt christianity by twisting everything they hear that they end up being 'fundimentalist atheists'.
You are backwards, that is how the metre is defined. The second is based around the vibration of a cesium atom.
This is the best way to do it, as we are starting at a unit which is useful to people, and then defining it terms of scientific constants.
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Similar reasoning can be given to napster. I personally have little problem with people trading mp3s like it was done 5 years ago, and if i'm not mistaken, this is protected under US law. The problem is when a company tries to make money off of someone elses intellectual property.
Napster tries to make people believe that its survival is the survival of future peer to peer networking, when it is only the future of for profit intellectual property violation. Metallica has never cared about private bootlegging, but if a high profile startup based their business of this it is different.
This is why Napster is bad for freedom. They use individual freedom to try protect illegal corperate action.
If i'm not mistaken, that is how trademarks work. A trademark is registered with the patent office, and is valid for 15 year. After 15 years it can be re-registered. This both protects the valid owner, but allow unused trademarks to fall back into the public domain. If this was applied to software, with say a 5 year period, it would allow maintained software like office to stay, but it would not be practical for companies to re-register unmaintained software.
The drawbacks would be be that it would cost everyone who wanted to register a licence, and it would put a lot of extra strain on the patent office, even with incresed revenue.
The average slashdot reader does not understand how patent applications work. Perhaps they look into http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/doc/general/i ndex.html to see how the system works. While may software patents, perhaps including this one, are bad, not all of them are.
The patent office is not in a position to judge right or wrong, all they can do is assure that patents are filled corrently, and that everything checks out. The court is responsible for making decisions on who is right. This is in the American system for a reason, you wouldn't want the FBI to be able to sentence criminals.
The best thing that could be done would be to shorten the terms for which software patants are valid. This would allow for protection of design, without hurting innovation.
Join the EFF is you want, but please look further into the issue than slashdot.
And moderators, just because you don't agree, doesn't mean that you should moderate this down.
It was corrupt and
ignored human rights (though there is nothing communist about that: by far most dictatorships are right-wing)...
You are mistaking the idea of political system with the idea of what you believe is right and wrong. In theory both systems benifit all people, but in practices they must be dictatorships.
The idea that there is hatred in the right wing is because of the holocaust. The holocaust a way for the nazis to maintain power. By creating a common enemy, the government can maintain control. This also happened in the USSR.
There has never been a communist regime that has not involved a dictatorship. Everything positive about a communist system is in theory, but none of it translates into reallity. The Soviets had a consitution that argueably gave more rights to it's citizens, but that didn't stop the government from ignoring them.
The Americans could have started their space program far earlier than they did, but there was no motivation to until the soviets started. It is also far cheaper to start a nuclear energy program when you didn't have to develop the technology from scrap. Considering the amount of effort the soviets put into agraculture, and the results that they got, I think it can be said that the soviet union was quite unproductive.
I do not like everything that the Americans do, but this is simple social science, and you should have paid more attention in that class.
In summery.
Neither left of right implies dictatorship, it is how the country is governed, and most extreams, both left and right, will be dictorships.
It seems that every time a report come out on 'censorware', jamie posts it on the front page of slashdot. They all say the exact same thing, and every time jamie has the same commentary. I do not like them any more than the average slashdot user, but I really think jamie is trying to push an agenda, and I think he should post it in a more approprate place, like the yro section.
To keep this on topic, an effective system to provide both the freedom to those that want it, and to protect the children would be to have a system where a child would use his card to use the library computers, and the parent would have control over the content catagories.
You may be right, as I do know that my local phone company, telus has to rent space for dsl service, and has had disputes with local providers.
They are still somewhat regulated. They have to apply with the government to increase rates, and rental costs are also regulated.
Infrastructure is the largest problem with deregulation, the best experience that I have had is with the motor vehicle brances being deregulated in Alberta. I remember standing in line for at least and hour to renew my licence plate, and now I can go on a sunday afternoon.
My worst experience was getting a minor clain with ICBC (the BC public insurance) when I was living there.
I honestly have faith in deregulation, although I am not happy with my future Alberta power bill, but this is the best time for it to happen, when the government can affored to give each resident a kickback... er, rebate.
Would you rather we assure healthy competition and high quality service or extreme cometition and no quality?
When you put it like that it sounds great, unfortuanatly that is the paranoid extream left view and does not reflect reality. The truth is that there is not such thing as healthy competition with regulated industries. The overall cost is the same, if not higher, and the quality of service tends to be far lower. When a company has no control over what it can charge, it will reduce its quality of service. Have you ever waited in line to renew your licence plate, or waited three hours on hold to a phone monopoly? The idea of industry consolidation is just a scare tactic that has not happened.
And if you live in BC have you ever dealt with ICBC? That is an another excellent example of low quality of service.
My local rates have gone up, but but it is small compared to the savings on long distance. The reason that local rates have gone up however is that local calling is still a regulated monopoly. The local phone companies use reduced long distance revenues as an excuse to raise the local rates.
We have several companies providing it under regulation. Rogers, shaw, bell and telus all provide broadband. However it is overly regulated, and keeps out other companies.
Since degregulation of the telephone industry the cost of telephone service has decreased dramaticly, mostly because I use long distance a lot. The dregulation of broadband might bother some people for a bit, but would eventually be far better.
One of the most important things to look at in a situation like this is how others will react. People will realize that they can do better in other countries, and will leave. The skilled people, doctors, lawyers, business people and science/engineering people will leave, causing a huge econimic collapse. Businesses would leave the country, unemployment would rise, and the standard of living would plummit. The $100,000 was picked because it is the most that a unionized person can make, and does not refect the current state of the country. If income was capped at $100,000, nobody would be making $75,000 because the taxes would be high even below $100,000.
Cars are the fastest and most efficent way to get around in may cities. Even if public transport was quadrupled people would end up walking long distances and waiting for excessive times at bus stops. If you want to take a bus, then do. Your arguments against vehicals seem to be the exact ones against the drug war, protecting people from themselves, and Nader seems to have no problem with drugs. I have known more people killed from drug use than I have from car accidents.
Idealism is nice to dream about, but when it comes to reality, you probably just got Bush elected. I don't have a problem with this, do you?
I am actually a Canadian citizen, and i apologize for insulting your country. With that out of the way I will explain my post. The overall tone of the original post seemed to convey the overused, stereotypical idea that Americans are lazy, stupid, uninformed and empty. In Canada we enjoy making fun of Americans and their culture, however the majority of us understand that while there are many problems, they are no worse than other countries, only nore visible. What seems to be happening here on slashdot, and in the related sub-cultures, is people taking this far to seriously. Many of these people seem to see Americans other than themselves as sheep, however this is exactly what they are.
There is no way to quantitivly measure these things, however my opinion after living in the US, UK and Germany is that there is a problem in all of them, and that each country has problems that are worse than others. Using your cigarette example, it would be like me using a players as an example that marlboro is no worse than the brands.
And i would appeal to all slashdoters(?), to make their own judgements on what is right. This is not highschool. Just by the pure number of Nader supporters on this site it is obvious that most people did not look deeply at the platform of him or the party under which he ran.
Ninty percent of what you said is utter crap.
I was born and raised in Canada, lived both in Germany and the UK for a year, and then lived for two years in the US. Dispite living in both dc and near San Diego, I saw that most Americans are far smarter and more aware of what is around them than most people are aware of. The British were worse in several ways. Making fun of Americans can make for a good joke, but it seems that many people around here missed the joke and took it a little to seriously. This reminds me of some people in highschool.
Yes it is better to spend more time with your children, but you are ignorent if you think this is only an American problem
Please don't moderate me down because you do not agree with what i say.
I really see no need for this to be posted on the slashdot main page. Yes 'censorware' is something that most of us dislike, but it seems that every time a few hundred words are put together about the 'evils' or it, jamie posts it to the main page of slashdot. I honestly believe that it would be far more fitting to just put this into yro.
To keep this post on topic, i think that the major backlash against content filtering will actually come from the teachers in the schools who actually do the overriding. They are the ones who constantly see the failing, and will eventually make it known.
Anyways please don't moderate me down or 'censor' me just because you don't agree with me.
-The number of g's that a plane can pull is not just limited by the pilot. At 9g the power needed to maintain a turn is extrodinary. Even the f-16 whose thrust is greater than its weight can only maintain this for short periods. After this the speed and thus energy, have dropped to a point where the plane has lost any advantage it may have gained while turning.
-PIO was a problem on early designs of unstable aircraft. The newer revisions are much better at corrections than the older ones, most of the resistance to this was by pilots who got used to the lag. Try flying any plane at a low speed, and lag become a huge problem.
-These new systems will be far heavier them current systems, and still require armor and such.
You comment on human percetion however is the best agrument against this, and in the end will be the failing of unmanned aircraft.
That was exactly what I wanted to say. In the end the bombings most likely saved lives in Japan, prevented even more problems in the cold war, and helped Japan's post war economic boom. The same horror that the Japanese cabinet felt; which allowed them the 2/3 majority to end the war, is the same horror that we still fell. 80,000 in one instant seems far worse than 200,000 in a month.
That was the basis of it, but the situtation was more complex. The Russians were willing to move troops into Japan, and this scared the Americans. The alternitive to a landing was several more months of intense bombings that would have killed far more people, and left Japan far worse off.
In a democratic system voter accessibility is essential to preserve freedom and equality. In acient greece, the origional democracies went through spells of democracy and oligarchy. This happened by the powerful calling meetings of the people at inconvinet times, and deciding with only a few people. Obviously it would be difficult to do, but over time it would be possible to wear down the abillity of certain groups to vote. Any major changes will have to take into account future patterns, and make sure that voter accessibility is universal.
I personally think that this years problems would look tame next to the first year of computer based voting, but over time would mature greatly and benifit everyone.
Perhaps in Canada where we select our PM indirectly, or in your congressional elections would be the best place it start. I would really have hated to see people complaining that Al Gore lost because of computer voting fraud.
Ok, we also have 2.2 million people, and the two most important cities in Canada outside of Toronto and Vancouver. The primary industries have not been our most important for some time now.
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You couldn't be closer to the truth.
However your last paragraph bring up the idea that is still must be possible, and easy for 'power users'. Nobody seems to be able to solve the problem of a gui that is intuitive and simple for the average user, but that will scale up to the needs of a 'power user'.
An added bonus would be a gui that made it easy for people to develop their abillity easily with little effort.
while it was most definatly political and ecomonical, I think the real reason that it happened was that NASA had begun to feel invincible. There was a risk involved, and they knew it, but had they actually thought that it could happen to them, then they would not have done it. They would have know that disaster would set them back 10 years, but like all of us in our youth, we did not think it would happen. As with the first Apollo deaths, this was a time of great maturity for NASA, as they coped with the poor decision that they made.
I think it will be a long time before NASA makes another decision like that, but like all great tragities of history, it is up to us to learn from these mistakes. Like holocaust surivivor elie wiesel has said, you only honour the dead if you help assure it will never happen again.
Real encyclopedias are controlled by editorial boards that provide unbiased, fair and reasonable content. Judging from slashdot, and RMS' personal opinions I would conclude that is encyclodepia would be quite biased. In order to be of any use, it will have to be unbiased. If stallman is any judge of why people write free software, contributors will not want to write for it unless they can influence others opinions. We can see this right on the page with the comment about the "GNU system", sometimes called linux.
Is this really the type of encyclopedia that you would want?
The problem with any public moderation system is that it tends to promote posts that agree with general consensus, and stifle any other opinion. I have seen this time and time again on slashdot, and it leads to a closed minded discussion based on a single idea of what is right and what is wrong.
This is especially apperent on topics based around opinions, such as politics. As someone with a many opinions that do not agree with the far left majority of slashdot, I consistently see perfectly valid points and opinions moderated down, or never moderated up, just because they do not agree.
By only seeing one side of the story it is impossible to get a fair view of the situation, and a now biased personal opinion cannot form. This manifests itself into a closed minded group of people, moving farther and further in one direction, leaving reason and individuality behind.
>this is the same Church that took nearly two
>millenia to finally admit that Galileo was
>correct.
This is just confusing. Galileo lived in the 16th century, i hope that was a poorly done hyperbole.
>Up until the horrible Crusades
You have to understand that the underlying reason for the crusades was to unite Europe. Without them it Europe may still be a land run by thousands of small feudal lords, and the renaissance would not have happened. The problem was that far more people with no millitary training showed up than expected, and mob mentality carried on from there.
Some people spend so much time trying to hurt christianity by twisting everything they hear that they end up being 'fundimentalist atheists'.
Uhhh, I _think not_.
You are backwards, that is how the metre is defined. The second is based around the vibration of a cesium atom.
This is the best way to do it, as we are starting at a unit which is useful to people, and then defining it terms of scientific constants.
Similar reasoning can be given to napster. I personally have little problem with people trading mp3s like it was done 5 years ago, and if i'm not mistaken, this is protected under US law. The problem is when a company tries to make money off of someone elses intellectual property.
Napster tries to make people believe that its survival is the survival of future peer to peer networking, when it is only the future of for profit intellectual property violation. Metallica has never cared about private bootlegging, but if a high profile startup based their business of this it is different.
This is why Napster is bad for freedom. They use individual freedom to try protect illegal corperate action.
If i'm not mistaken, that is how trademarks work. A trademark is registered with the patent office, and is valid for 15 year. After 15 years it can be re-registered. This both protects the valid owner, but allow unused trademarks to fall back into the public domain. If this was applied to software, with say a 5 year period, it would allow maintained software like office to stay, but it would not be practical for companies to re-register unmaintained software.
The drawbacks would be be that it would cost everyone who wanted to register a licence, and it would put a lot of extra strain on the patent office, even with incresed revenue.
The average slashdot reader does not understand how patent applications work. Perhaps they look into http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/doc/general/i ndex.html to see how the system works. While may software patents, perhaps including this one, are bad, not all of them are.
The patent office is not in a position to judge right or wrong, all they can do is assure that patents are filled corrently, and that everything checks out. The court is responsible for making decisions on who is right. This is in the American system for a reason, you wouldn't want the FBI to be able to sentence criminals.
The best thing that could be done would be to shorten the terms for which software patants are valid. This would allow for protection of design, without hurting innovation.
Join the EFF is you want, but please look further into the issue than slashdot.
And moderators, just because you don't agree, doesn't mean that you should moderate this down.
It seems that every time a report come out on 'censorware', jamie posts it on the front page of slashdot. They all say the exact same thing, and every time jamie has the same commentary. I do not like them any more than the average slashdot user, but I really think jamie is trying to push an agenda, and I think he should post it in a more approprate place, like the yro section.
To keep this on topic, an effective system to provide both the freedom to those that want it, and to protect the children would be to have a system where a child would use his card to use the library computers, and the parent would have control over the content catagories.
You may be right, as I do know that my local phone company, telus has to rent space for dsl service, and has had disputes with local providers.
They are still somewhat regulated. They have to apply with the government to increase rates, and rental costs are also regulated.
Infrastructure is the largest problem with deregulation, the best experience that I have had is with the motor vehicle brances being deregulated in Alberta. I remember standing in line for at least and hour to renew my licence plate, and now I can go on a sunday afternoon.
My worst experience was getting a minor clain with ICBC (the BC public insurance) when I was living there.
I honestly have faith in deregulation, although I am not happy with my future Alberta power bill, but this is the best time for it to happen, when the government can affored to give each resident a kickback... er, rebate.
When you put it like that it sounds great, unfortuanatly that is the paranoid extream left view and does not reflect reality. The truth is that there is not such thing as healthy competition with regulated industries. The overall cost is the same, if not higher, and the quality of service tends to be far lower. When a company has no control over what it can charge, it will reduce its quality of service. Have you ever waited in line to renew your licence plate, or waited three hours on hold to a phone monopoly? The idea of industry consolidation is just a scare tactic that has not happened.
And if you live in BC have you ever dealt with ICBC? That is an another excellent example of low quality of service.
My local rates have gone up, but but it is small compared to the savings on long distance. The reason that local rates have gone up however is that local calling is still a regulated monopoly. The local phone companies use reduced long distance revenues as an excuse to raise the local rates.
We have several companies providing it under regulation. Rogers, shaw, bell and telus all provide broadband. However it is overly regulated, and keeps out other companies.
Since degregulation of the telephone industry the cost of telephone service has decreased dramaticly, mostly because I use long distance a lot. The dregulation of broadband might bother some people for a bit, but would eventually be far better.
One of the most important things to look at in a situation like this is how others will react. People will realize that they can do better in other countries, and will leave. The skilled people, doctors, lawyers, business people and science/engineering people will leave, causing a huge econimic collapse. Businesses would leave the country, unemployment would rise, and the standard of living would plummit. The $100,000 was picked because it is the most that a unionized person can make, and does not refect the current state of the country. If income was capped at $100,000, nobody would be making $75,000 because the taxes would be high even below $100,000.
Cars are the fastest and most efficent way to get around in may cities. Even if public transport was quadrupled people would end up walking long distances and waiting for excessive times at bus stops. If you want to take a bus, then do. Your arguments against vehicals seem to be the exact ones against the drug war, protecting people from themselves, and Nader seems to have no problem with drugs. I have known more people killed from drug use than I have from car accidents.
Idealism is nice to dream about, but when it comes to reality, you probably just got Bush elected. I don't have a problem with this, do you?
Finally someone sees the genius in my trolling.
I am actually a Canadian citizen, and i apologize for insulting your country. With that out of the way I will explain my post. The overall tone of the original post seemed to convey the overused, stereotypical idea that Americans are lazy, stupid, uninformed and empty. In Canada we enjoy making fun of Americans and their culture, however the majority of us understand that while there are many problems, they are no worse than other countries, only nore visible. What seems to be happening here on slashdot, and in the related sub-cultures, is people taking this far to seriously. Many of these people seem to see Americans other than themselves as sheep, however this is exactly what they are.
There is no way to quantitivly measure these things, however my opinion after living in the US, UK and Germany is that there is a problem in all of them, and that each country has problems that are worse than others. Using your cigarette example, it would be like me using a players as an example that marlboro is no worse than the brands.
And i would appeal to all slashdoters(?), to make their own judgements on what is right. This is not highschool. Just by the pure number of Nader supporters on this site it is obvious that most people did not look deeply at the platform of him or the party under which he ran.
You see to be following the slashdot flock.
Ninty percent of what you said is utter crap.
I was born and raised in Canada, lived both in Germany and the UK for a year, and then lived for two years in the US. Dispite living in both dc and near San Diego, I saw that most Americans are far smarter and more aware of what is around them than most people are aware of. The British were worse in several ways. Making fun of Americans can make for a good joke, but it seems that many people around here missed the joke and took it a little to seriously. This reminds me of some people in highschool.
Yes it is better to spend more time with your children, but you are ignorent if you think this is only an American problem
Please don't moderate me down because you do not agree with what i say.
I really see no need for this to be posted on the slashdot main page. Yes 'censorware' is something that most of us dislike, but it seems that every time a few hundred words are put together about the 'evils' or it, jamie posts it to the main page of slashdot. I honestly believe that it would be far more fitting to just put this into yro.
To keep this post on topic, i think that the major backlash against content filtering will actually come from the teachers in the schools who actually do the overriding. They are the ones who constantly see the failing, and will eventually make it known.
Anyways please don't moderate me down or 'censor' me just because you don't agree with me.
-The number of g's that a plane can pull is not just limited by the pilot. At 9g the power needed to maintain a turn is extrodinary. Even the f-16 whose thrust is greater than its weight can only maintain this for short periods. After this the speed and thus energy, have dropped to a point where the plane has lost any advantage it may have gained while turning.
-PIO was a problem on early designs of unstable aircraft. The newer revisions are much better at corrections than the older ones, most of the resistance to this was by pilots who got used to the lag. Try flying any plane at a low speed, and lag become a huge problem.
-These new systems will be far heavier them current systems, and still require armor and such.
You comment on human percetion however is the best agrument against this, and in the end will be the failing of unmanned aircraft.
That was exactly what I wanted to say. In the end the bombings most likely saved lives in Japan, prevented even more problems in the cold war, and helped Japan's post war economic boom. The same horror that the Japanese cabinet felt; which allowed them the 2/3 majority to end the war, is the same horror that we still fell. 80,000 in one instant seems far worse than 200,000 in a month.
That was the basis of it, but the situtation was more complex. The Russians were willing to move troops into Japan, and this scared the Americans. The alternitive to a landing was several more months of intense bombings that would have killed far more people, and left Japan far worse off.
In a democratic system voter accessibility is essential to preserve freedom and equality. In acient greece, the origional democracies went through spells of democracy and oligarchy. This happened by the powerful calling meetings of the people at inconvinet times, and deciding with only a few people. Obviously it would be difficult to do, but over time it would be possible to wear down the abillity of certain groups to vote. Any major changes will have to take into account future patterns, and make sure that voter accessibility is universal.
I personally think that this years problems would look tame next to the first year of computer based voting, but over time would mature greatly and benifit everyone.
Perhaps in Canada where we select our PM indirectly, or in your congressional elections would be the best place it start. I would really have hated to see people complaining that Al Gore lost because of computer voting fraud.
Ok, we also have 2.2 million people, and the two most important cities in Canada outside of Toronto and Vancouver. The primary industries have not been our most important for some time now.
Good look with the t-shirts though
I would recommend using 4.0.1, which is what is in debian.
I find it very good, it even has a smaller footprint.