It appears that these issues are only an issue in the computer biz. Look at cars, electronics etc.. there are always copies of other products.
Um, no. If someone came out with a car that was confusingly similar to a BMW (not just 'looks similar') and the manufacturer had internal memos that said, "make it look more like a BMW," you can bet BMW would sue.
Even if samsung copied some aspects of the design, it is also apparent to Fandroids that they had a better phone than the iPhone.
You do realize that suing over rectangles with rounded corners, grids of icons and "slide to unlock" is fucking, pardon the pun, patently ridiculous right? None of the shit they were suing over was invented by Apple nor was it innovative.
Will BMW now sue Mercs? or will Sony sue LG or a wil samsung sue Apple when it makes its Apple TV w/Sanyo parts?
Will Nikon sue Lumix because, wow your camera uses a damn lens, your camera uses the same knob.
God, get real, every one has a right to copy another product as-is. You cannot (C) or patent a "LOOK", coordinates of buttons, or the fact that buttons are a 4x6 matrix etc...
Oh yeah? Ask Louis Vutton (sp) or Nike why they spend tons trying to stop pirated stuff from entering the states. Yes, you can prevent someone from making something look too much like your product, as decided in this case by a jury, your opinion notwithstanding.
One important aspect of the case you missed: willful copying. There are no "damning" memos where Apple engineers said, "We need this thing to look more like that imaginary thing on Star Trek."
To be honest, Windows 8 does ask if you want SmartScreen enabled on install.
Thanks for the clarification. I assume it also explains what SmartScreen does? It sure seems like the most flame-baiting titles and summaries make it to the front page here.
I'm extremely tempted to write a program called "Fuck you Microsoft, you worthless sacks of shit", which installs itself only long enough to send Microsoft the notification that this program was installed, before formatting the hard drive.
Or maybe I should just make a program that essentially installs with that name, displays some text saying 'notification to Microsoft sent', then uninstalls itself. The user can install this as many times as they want to tell Microsoft they're worthless sacks of shit.
Congratulations on focusing on half the post. The other half is about the "usage and diagnostic data" that Mac OS X sends to Apple - which does contain information about what applications you have installed, and has since whenever they added that feature.
Exactly what data does Apple get? Well, according to Apple themselves, they collect "[u]sage information (for example, data about how you use Apple and third-party software, hardware, and services)." What does that mean? Who knows.
The bottom line is that if you don't want some company to know what third-party software you're using on "their" computer, you don't want to go Apple.
And congratulations to you for ignoring the summary. Windows 8 has this on BY DEFAULT and you have to turn it off. Mac OS asks you if you want usage data sent before it ever does it.
Best rebuttal ever. Reminds me of a movie where some white guy is screaming the lines of some gangsta rap in his car like he's tough, until some black guy walks by the car and the white guy locks the doors in a panic.
And four of the testimonials use the non-standard "learnt" instead of learned. Now, I admit I don't know how often learnt is used in the UK (my spellchecker doesn't like it), but you rarely hear or see it here in the USA.
Hilarious! You call it the Clinton Recession. Wikipedia does not! He presided over gigantic boon times then one stinking year of "mild recession" as wikipedia puts it. And then you blame him for 2001-2002 and use 9/11 to give Bush a free ride. You are too damn partisan!
The iOS App Store is not curated. Apple pretty much allows anything on its platform as long as the developer pays $99 a year and the app doesn't conflict with any products Apple makes. Developers are constantly fighting off horrible cheap emulations of their games as well as games which flat out copy assets byte for byte from other games.
It most certainly is curated. That's what all the fandroids are always screaming about. Apple will reject your app if it seems objectionable, crashes, accesses unpublished APIs, etc. And if a dev can show their app is copied, the copy WILL get pulled.
The developer said on Steam or Apple App store, it wouldn't be an issue and those are walled gardens.
As far as Steam is concerned, I haven't seen them reject many (if any) legitimate games. They've gone the other way, in fact -- you can add games that aren't part of Steam into the Steam interface. As well, Steam doesn't take over the computer; it runs as an application within the Operating System. Even regular applications can be added to it. The Apple App store on the other hand, yes, you do need to get it approved, there sometimes are fees associated with it, and Apple has been aggressively working to make the Apple App store the only way to get applications installed on its hardware.
No, it does not cost anything to patch your apps on the app store. I know. I am a developer and have updated my apps many times. Always free.
Clinton recession? What? He presided over one of the biggest economic booms of our times! Yes, 9/11 happened, which makes the Bush-era tax cuts look even stupider! It's not "my graph" - it's from Wikipedia. The point I was making was that Revenues exceeded Outlays until the Bush tax cuts took place. That is true whether it is shown as percent of GDP or not. When Revenues exceed outlays, there is a surplus and the debt can be paid down - or welfare for the rich can be enacted, since "deficits don't matter" when the GOP is in office.
The budget does have something to do with reality (except when Bush kept his war spending "off-budget"), but the timing of borrowing affects the actual debt level at one moment. Saying the budget has nothing to do with reality is just sticking your fingers in your ears and going "nyah, nyah, I can't hear you."
The ones that turned a budget surplus into a deficit?
Whilst we had a "budget surplus", we were, in fact, still running up the debt. The national debt has not decreased since the Eisenhower Administration, back in 1957. So while many decry the whole "deficits don't matter" statement, the fact is actually true - a budget deficit or surplus is immaterial, as you can run a surplus on budget and still have your debt increase.
Hey dumbass did you actually know that 100% of the debt is because congress passes bills and the president signs it (or has their veto overruled) that spend more than the treasury takes in.
All joking aside the problem is really that income to the government isn't matching expenditures and each party seems to have their preferred method of solving that problem but either one will result in some portion of those in congress being voted out so our elected representatives vote in their own enlightened self interests which is to keep doing what we currently do.
No shit, Sherlock. I was responding to the troll. If you look at what happened at the turn of the century, we had a SURPLUS. This was quickly eaten away by the rich-man's welfare known as the Bush-era tax cuts. Then Bush invaded two countries (only one possibly justified) two erode more of this surplus. These were actions of Republicans. The troll was blaming the deficits on liberals, so I pointed out his faulty logic.
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It appears that these issues are only an issue in the computer biz. Look at cars, electronics etc.. there are always copies of other products.
Um, no. If someone came out with a car that was confusingly similar to a BMW (not just 'looks similar') and the manufacturer had internal memos that said, "make it look more like a BMW," you can bet BMW would sue.
Even if samsung copied some aspects of the design, it is also apparent to Fandroids that they had a better phone than the iPhone.
FTFY.
It's quite obvious that Samsung's claims about prior art have merit.
Jury of 12 begs to differ.
You do realize that suing over rectangles with rounded corners, grids of icons and "slide to unlock" is fucking, pardon the pun, patently ridiculous right? None of the shit they were suing over was invented by Apple nor was it innovative.
Jury of 12 begs to disagree.
Will BMW now sue Mercs? or will Sony sue LG or a wil samsung sue Apple when it makes its Apple TV w/Sanyo parts?
Will Nikon sue Lumix because, wow your camera uses a damn lens, your camera uses the same knob.
God, get real, every one has a right to copy another product as-is. You cannot (C) or patent a "LOOK", coordinates of buttons, or the fact that buttons are a 4x6 matrix etc...
Oh yeah? Ask Louis Vutton (sp) or Nike why they spend tons trying to stop pirated stuff from entering the states. Yes, you can prevent someone from making something look too much like your product, as decided in this case by a jury, your opinion notwithstanding.
One important aspect of the case you missed: willful copying. There are no "damning" memos where Apple engineers said, "We need this thing to look more like that imaginary thing on Star Trek."
Whoooosh!
Whooosh!
To be honest, Windows 8 does ask if you want SmartScreen enabled on install.
Thanks for the clarification. I assume it also explains what SmartScreen does? It sure seems like the most flame-baiting titles and summaries make it to the front page here.
I'm extremely tempted to write a program called "Fuck you Microsoft, you worthless sacks of shit", which installs itself only long enough to send Microsoft the notification that this program was installed, before formatting the hard drive.
Or maybe I should just make a program that essentially installs with that name, displays some text saying 'notification to Microsoft sent', then uninstalls itself. The user can install this as many times as they want to tell Microsoft they're worthless sacks of shit.
I'm not volunteering for the beta preview.
Congratulations on focusing on half the post. The other half is about the "usage and diagnostic data" that Mac OS X sends to Apple - which does contain information about what applications you have installed, and has since whenever they added that feature.
Exactly what data does Apple get? Well, according to Apple themselves, they collect "[u]sage information (for example, data about how you use Apple and third-party software, hardware, and services)." What does that mean? Who knows.
The bottom line is that if you don't want some company to know what third-party software you're using on "their" computer, you don't want to go Apple.
And congratulations to you for ignoring the summary. Windows 8 has this on BY DEFAULT and you have to turn it off. Mac OS asks you if you want usage data sent before it ever does it.
Best rebuttal ever. Reminds me of a movie where some white guy is screaming the lines of some gangsta rap in his car like he's tough, until some black guy walks by the car and the white guy locks the doors in a panic.
No reason to be a dickhead.
+1 you busted that failed comparison but good.
So, can you bring a first amendment case against a corporate entity? It's interesting that airport drama has moved from the fourth to the first.
No. The 1st amendment is about GOVERNMENT suppression of speech. Corporations can do as they well please.
And four of the testimonials use the non-standard "learnt" instead of learned. Now, I admit I don't know how often learnt is used in the UK (my spellchecker doesn't like it), but you rarely hear or see it here in the USA.
I found an elegant solution to the problem, but it doesn't fit in the slashdot comment box.
If Apple only sells iPads to rabid fanboys, the rest of the industry is in trouble. Apple is finding 17 million fanboys a quarter.
Best. Comment. Ever.
Hilarious! You call it the Clinton Recession. Wikipedia does not! He presided over gigantic boon times then one stinking year of "mild recession" as wikipedia puts it. And then you blame him for 2001-2002 and use 9/11 to give Bush a free ride. You are too damn partisan!
The iOS App Store is not curated. Apple pretty much allows anything on its platform as long as the developer pays $99 a year and the app doesn't conflict with any products Apple makes. Developers are constantly fighting off horrible cheap emulations of their games as well as games which flat out copy assets byte for byte from other games.
It most certainly is curated. That's what all the fandroids are always screaming about. Apple will reject your app if it seems objectionable, crashes, accesses unpublished APIs, etc. And if a dev can show their app is copied, the copy WILL get pulled.
The developer said on Steam or Apple App store, it wouldn't be an issue and those are walled gardens.
As far as Steam is concerned, I haven't seen them reject many (if any) legitimate games. They've gone the other way, in fact -- you can add games that aren't part of Steam into the Steam interface. As well, Steam doesn't take over the computer; it runs as an application within the Operating System. Even regular applications can be added to it. The Apple App store on the other hand, yes, you do need to get it approved, there sometimes are fees associated with it, and Apple has been aggressively working to make the Apple App store the only way to get applications installed on its hardware.
No, it does not cost anything to patch your apps on the app store. I know. I am a developer and have updated my apps many times. Always free.
Clinton recession? What? He presided over one of the biggest economic booms of our times! Yes, 9/11 happened, which makes the Bush-era tax cuts look even stupider! It's not "my graph" - it's from Wikipedia. The point I was making was that Revenues exceeded Outlays until the Bush tax cuts took place. That is true whether it is shown as percent of GDP or not. When Revenues exceed outlays, there is a surplus and the debt can be paid down - or welfare for the rich can be enacted, since "deficits don't matter" when the GOP is in office.
You play with semantics all you want, but this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:CBO_-_Revenues_and_Outlays_as_percent_GDP.png picture shows that REVENUE exceeded EXPENDITURE until the Bush-era tax cuts changed the picture.
The budget does have something to do with reality (except when Bush kept his war spending "off-budget"), but the timing of borrowing affects the actual debt level at one moment. Saying the budget has nothing to do with reality is just sticking your fingers in your ears and going "nyah, nyah, I can't hear you."
The ones that turned a budget surplus into a deficit?
Whilst we had a "budget surplus", we were, in fact, still running up the debt. The national debt has not decreased since the Eisenhower Administration, back in 1957. So while many decry the whole "deficits don't matter" statement, the fact is actually true - a budget deficit or surplus is immaterial, as you can run a surplus on budget and still have your debt increase.
Source: National Debt to the Penny
However you want to do the math, the fact is that a budget DEFICIT increases debt faster than a budget SURPLUS.
Hey dumbass did you actually know that 100% of the debt is because congress passes bills and the president signs it (or has their veto overruled) that spend more than the treasury takes in. All joking aside the problem is really that income to the government isn't matching expenditures and each party seems to have their preferred method of solving that problem but either one will result in some portion of those in congress being voted out so our elected representatives vote in their own enlightened self interests which is to keep doing what we currently do.
No shit, Sherlock. I was responding to the troll. If you look at what happened at the turn of the century, we had a SURPLUS. This was quickly eaten away by the rich-man's welfare known as the Bush-era tax cuts. Then Bush invaded two countries (only one possibly justified) two erode more of this surplus. These were actions of Republicans. The troll was blaming the deficits on liberals, so I pointed out his faulty logic.