Contrary to the opinion popularly held among misguided Linux users, most *BSD developers don't dislike each other. Would there be as much cross-development if this were the case? I run FreeBSD on my i386 and axp boxes, and NetBSD on my sparc and m68k boxes.
Uhh.. half the time, I had a devil of a time getting perfectly "normal" source (meaning, it would compile fine under Solaris, FreeBSD, NetBSD) to compile correctly under RedHat or Debian. The opposite is the same; people who code using those damned Linux-specific header files irk me. Couldn't you just stick to POSIX please?
Uhh.. Lucent's software supports nearly any OS. It's all in Java. Linux is not a special case.
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No, "classful" thinking isn't used anymore. Nobody cares about the old classful boundries anymore. The seperation between the network bits and host bits in a 32-bit IP address can be shifted up and down, between the first and last bits.
If somebody writes some code themselves, what right do YOU have to it? The BSD-style license gives the code away for free, no strings attached, no morality or ethics imposed.
Hi, how is this any different from how FreeBSD works? If you can directly commit, go ahead. If you can't, use send-pr. If you're unwilling to do so, then put out a patch. Nobody will tell you to stop. You can even go one step farther; make your own version of BSD based on FreeBSD's code! Nobody will stop you there, either.
Nice, resorting to childish architecture attacks? BSD orginially ran on the PDP and VAX series computers, yes, but now it runs on more different types of computers than Linux does, and does a good job of it.
Wow, I see that the old "Linux or nothing" attitude is still rampant in the community. Some of us just don't like the Linux development model. Some of us think that *BSD just has it right in the first place. Why don't you Linux users get off your high horses and bring your talent and expertise to *BSD? Just leave your rabid GPL cheerleaders behind, thank you.:)
NetBSD's kernel isn't split along port lines, only architecture specific code. NetBSD/sparc and NetBSD/mac68k, for instance, both are built from the same source tree.
Ah, more FUD. Perhaps the patch was sloppy or wasn't well bug-tested? Ever think of that? Grow up. The core developers are there to prevent sloppy crap coding from getting into the FreeBSD kernel, and I'm glad they are there.
Like I've said a dozen times before, BSD-style licensed code is NOT "ripped off". You can't rip off something that is given away free to be used however the user sees fit. Why do you GPL advocates insist on twisting reality like that?
You can't steal what somebody gives away for free. The UCB/BSD-style license gives the code away for use in whatever way you feel like. Please tell me how this is less free than GPL.
Wow, you're badly informed. FreeBSD certainly has plenty of hardware support. I have an SB AWE64 which works fine with a joystick connected (I don't use it for anything, but is there as/dev/joy0). Quickcam has been supported for quite some time (qcam driver). I have a Hauppauge WinTV card that is very well supported; even made some MPEG movies using it. As for companies "stealing" code, what business is it of yours? How do you know companies aren't swiping GPL'd code and not telling anyone? Several companies have used FreeBSD code in their products and have even given back code to the project (Whistle, for one). I know rabid GNU cheerleaders tend to pretend that this doesn't happy, but sorry folks, it does. You don't need a license to force people to dump code back into a project.
The joystick programming is up to the end program to poke at/dev/joy0. As for TV tuners, anything with the bt848 or bt878 chip is supported. I use my Hauppauge WinTVpci card all the time to watch TV!
MiniDiscs are certainly made by other companies, and the ATRAC encoding method isn't hidden from review either. Or would you call VHS "proprietary" as well because you can't duplicate it in your garage?
Ummm.. IPv6 has nothing to do with DNS, just like IPv4 has nothing to do with DNS. The domain name system is just a nice way of assigning names to hard to remember IP addresses, whether or not they are 32 bits long or 128 bits long.
Who gives a damn about DECnet? Most people don't. Show me a major internetwork routing DECnet over itself and then you'll have a reason to yack about nonsense like that.
Wow.. surprising this piece of non-information wasn't moderated out of existance. BSD is far from dead. If it were, why would so many GNU tools as well as the Linux kernel itself contain BSD code? Not just old code, new code as well from both FreeBSD and NetBSD? Wow. Looks like another rabid Linux cheerleader spewing more "Linux only" crap and FUD. I shouldn't be surprised..
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Contrary to the opinion popularly held among misguided Linux users, most *BSD developers don't dislike each other. Would there be as much cross-development if this were the case? I run FreeBSD on my i386 and axp boxes, and NetBSD on my sparc and m68k boxes.
Uhh.. half the time, I had a devil of a time getting perfectly "normal" source (meaning, it would compile fine under Solaris, FreeBSD, NetBSD) to compile correctly under RedHat or Debian. The opposite is the same; people who code using those damned Linux-specific header files irk me. Couldn't you just stick to POSIX please?
Uhh.. Lucent's software supports nearly any OS. It's all in Java. Linux is not a special case.
No, "classful" thinking isn't used anymore. Nobody cares about the old classful boundries anymore. The seperation between the network bits and host bits in a 32-bit IP address can be shifted up and down, between the first and last bits.
If somebody writes some code themselves, what right do YOU have to it? The BSD-style license gives the code away for free, no strings attached, no morality or ethics imposed.
Hi, how is this any different from how FreeBSD works? If you can directly commit, go ahead. If you can't, use send-pr. If you're unwilling to do so, then put out a patch. Nobody will tell you to stop. You can even go one step farther; make your own version of BSD based on FreeBSD's code! Nobody will stop you there, either.
Nice, resorting to childish architecture attacks? BSD orginially ran on the PDP and VAX series computers, yes, but now it runs on more different types of computers than Linux does, and does a good job of it.
Most GNU utilites came about in an attempt to duplicate existing BSD utilities WHICH HAVE EXISTED FOR MUCH LONGER. Who is cloning who?
Wow, I see that the old "Linux or nothing" attitude is still rampant in the community. Some of us just don't like the Linux development model. Some of us think that *BSD just has it right in the first place. Why don't you Linux users get off your high horses and bring your talent and expertise to *BSD? Just leave your rabid GPL cheerleaders behind, thank you. :)
NetBSD's kernel isn't split along port lines, only architecture specific code. NetBSD/sparc and NetBSD/mac68k, for instance, both are built from the same source tree.
Ah, more FUD. Perhaps the patch was sloppy or wasn't well bug-tested? Ever think of that? Grow up. The core developers are there to prevent sloppy crap coding from getting into the FreeBSD kernel, and I'm glad they are there.
Like I've said a dozen times before, BSD-style licensed code is NOT "ripped off". You can't rip off something that is given away free to be used however the user sees fit. Why do you GPL advocates insist on twisting reality like that?
You can't steal what somebody gives away for free. The UCB/BSD-style license gives the code away for use in whatever way you feel like. Please tell me how this is less free than GPL.
Wow, you're badly informed. FreeBSD certainly has plenty of hardware support. I have an SB AWE64 which works fine with a joystick connected (I don't use it for anything, but is there as /dev/joy0). Quickcam has been supported for quite some time (qcam driver). I have a Hauppauge WinTV card that is very well supported; even made some MPEG movies using it. As for companies "stealing" code, what business is it of yours? How do you know companies aren't swiping GPL'd code and not telling anyone? Several companies have used FreeBSD code in their products and have even given back code to the project (Whistle, for one). I know rabid GNU cheerleaders tend to pretend that this doesn't happy, but sorry folks, it does. You don't need a license to force people to dump code back into a project.
The joystick programming is up to the end program to poke at /dev/joy0. As for TV tuners, anything with the bt848 or bt878 chip is supported. I use my Hauppauge WinTVpci card all the time to watch TV!
MPEG-4 is based around Quicktime technology, as a side note.
MiniDiscs are certainly made by other companies, and the ATRAC encoding method isn't hidden from review either. Or would you call VHS "proprietary" as well because you can't duplicate it in your garage?
Ummm.. IPv6 has nothing to do with DNS, just like IPv4 has nothing to do with DNS. The domain name system is just a nice way of assigning names to hard to remember IP addresses, whether or not they are 32 bits long or 128 bits long.
Linux is not an appropriate environment for an embedded system. VxWorks is, QNX is, Linux is not.
Who gives a damn about DECnet? Most people don't. Show me a major internetwork routing DECnet over itself and then you'll have a reason to yack about nonsense like that.
Nice FUD moron. If you're jealous of FreeBSD, don't whine about it.
Wow, seems like you have a lot to learn about companies who wish to protect their investments in research and development.
Wow.. I've never seen so much faulty logic in one place at one time!
Grow up, Linux poster child. Was this an Apple-bashing thread? Stick to the topic.
Wow.. surprising this piece of non-information wasn't moderated out of existance. BSD is far from dead. If it were, why would so many GNU tools as well as the Linux kernel itself contain BSD code? Not just old code, new code as well from both FreeBSD and NetBSD? Wow. Looks like another rabid Linux cheerleader spewing more "Linux only" crap and FUD. I shouldn't be surprised..