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OpenBSD 2.5 released
Chris Frost writes "As found on OpenBSD's website today (www.openbsd.org), "The current release of OpenBSD is 2.5 which started shipping May 19, 1999." Not sure what calendering method was used to calculate this and then post, but nonetheless OpenBSD 2.5 has been released. "
The Slashdot "BSD" category uses the FreeBSD logo picture. Given how much the various BSD camps love each other, posting the OpenBSD announcement with the FreeBSD logo is a great way to get yourself smack in the middle of some flame throwing...
Where?
Actually, I think Tux is a lot cooler than the OpenBSD 2.5 police stuff.
The older 3d daemon is cool though.
I've made an OpenBSD (and NetBSD) theme for WindowMaker, available at wm.themes.org. A few ppl have downloaded it, just spreading the word :-)
It's not FUD. It only "somewhat" works on my Alpha.
Hmm, will there be a newer version of Minix too? I use Minix on my old 80286-powered portable Computer.
It's old and slow, but I somehow love this computer and it's Mini-Unix. =:-)
Though many reserach have and will be done with NetBSD, NetBSD is *NOT*!!!!!!!!!!!!!! a resarch platform.
You don't find anything on TNF's homepage that calls NetBSD a "resarch plattform".Please read about the NetBSD Project or it's goals.
If you are to lazy to follow the links, here's the summary:
NetBSD is not a resarch platform, damnit!
***END OF DISCUSSION***
There is no offical page to my knowledge, but the overall scheme of things are: NetBSD focues on compatibility, OpenBSD focuses on security, and FreeBSD focuses on power and more contrib files for it.
It's funny though it assumes kiddy = cracker which is like assuming Linux = hippies. It won't stop this 'kiddy` though. As FreeBSD 3.1 didn't detect my second IDE controller and OpenBSD 2.5 (checked by downloading the install floppy) did. It sure won't be for security reasons though.
I was wondering though, what kind of compiler does it come with? FreeBSD 3.1 came with gcc 2.7.x which is much slower than egcs. Though I was impressed by FreeBSD's speed, some code I built ran much slower than on Linux with egcs.
And: what about NetBSD? if you're not focused on security but more on speed and development, isn't NetBSD a better choice?
gcc 2.8.1 is compiler for OpenBSD 2.5 (and 2.4 I think also)
OpenBSD 2.5 uses gcc 2.8.1 as the standard system compiler. It ships with a fully functional egcs-1.1.2 port, though.
Current egcs snapshots work with OpenBSD as well. I should know -- I'm the one maintaining them.
egcs-1.1.2 was not used for OpenBSD 2.5 for various reasons. We found it lacking on some major platforms (code bloat on i386, for instance), and being actually slower than gcc 2.8.1 in many instances.
A more recent snapshot was not used for OpenBSD 2.5 as egcs was not very stable on some critical platforms at release time.
The next release of OpenBSD is going to use gcc 2.95 or better.
In fact, I'm posting this from my laptop, a box running OpenBSD current with egcs 1990517. Yep, sir, everything's compiled with that compiler.
[sorry for the AC post]
why is slashdot posting all these articles about dists, but has totally ignored the ppc linux developers' release 1.0? it's what ALL new redhat ppc dists are based on. isn't that AT LEAST as news worthy as the new bsd dists?? seems to me that slashdot is very x86 centric and rarely has anything about other archs unless it's stories about their demise, such as the false mklinux death story. note that freshmeat DID carry the news of DRR1.0
LinuxPPC Reference Release 1.0
If you go to each website separately and look under goals or something like that, you'll see what each emphasizes.
Nevertheless, it goes like this:
FreeBSD: concentrates on x86, so it is th fastest on x86, ports to Alpha (somewhat working) and Sparc (not working) underway. has good VM system, good under high load. Easiest to install and use.
NetBSD: Concentrates on being a stable research platform. Their big thing is portability, supports lots and lots of hardware platforms.
OpenBSD: forked from NetBSD, supports lots of hardware platforms. Big emphasis on security, has bunch of integrated encryption. A no brainer if you REALLY NEED security.
Just so that no one thinks I was crazy when pasing the info on to /.: I posted this [late] yesterday, noticing that it "had" been released today. :)
Everyone interested, go by and buy a cd!
Those police "To Serve and Protect" T-Shirts are very nice! Why aren't there T-Shirts that cool for Linux?
:(
Werd.
Don't forget that there are lots of new T-shirts availible as well! There is the new 2.5 graphic, as well as the older OpenBSD daemon shots, as well as the blowfish encryption shirt. They're all availible at http://www.OpenBSD.org/orders.html. Adam
You're right, it is a 1.1.2 product.
And July 1, it will be released as the official GNU compiler.
http://egcs.cygnus.com/gcc-2.95/schedule.html
Don't forget NetBSD with 1.4 released on 12 May.
Okay, I realize this is more of a question than a comment, but I've hunted around the various *bsd sites and can't find the answer.
Can someone either give me the URL which describes the differences between netBSD, freeBSD and openBSD, or summarize the differences for me here?
How should I know which one to experiment with on my one non-linux box?
Many thanks,
---------------------------- DevNull - a discernible void in the province of Saskatchewan
They have all, the UNICIES, come in new "spring" versions: RedHat, FreeBSD and now OpenBSD, unfortunatly they don't support installation with my initio SCSI-controller. I still have to tweak things. I'm tired of that!!!!!
One very important thing to keep in mind is that OpenBSD is a very small operation, especially when compared with some behemoths these days.
:)
So, even though the project is alive and well, it's indeed a good idea to buy the CDs, or T-Shirts (for one thing, the CD artwork is nice, and it comes with mondo-cool stickers).
For one thing, sales are not large enough to warrant a larger format than 2 CDs right now (shipping & handling...), but if sales continue growing, it'll be economically viable to go to 4.
Yep, we do have enough material to fill the space
It's important to try to financially support these projects, especially non-commercial ones like OpenBSD. Of course many people are pretty strapped for cash, but if you can afford it, $30 for a super secure, open source, reliable UNIX-like OS is a real bargain, and it helps make great software possible.
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In a real emergency, we would have all fled in terror, and you would not have been notified.
NetBSD - Portability - Made for a multitude of platforms including things like iMAC and Amiga, and a bunch of things you've probably never heard of before.
OpenBSD - Security - Ultra secure version, less platform support.
FreeBSD - the "original" version, with a variety of support for actual hardware/peripherials, etc. Also has the most options to it (software, libs, etc)
ITS A CONSPIRACY!!! CMDR Taco is being paid under the table by de raadt to post open and flea bsd stories!!!! /. is OBVIOUSLY biased against linux!!!
-- your knees hurt, don't they?
You can find some really nifty OpenBSD images at http://www.monkey.org/~nemickol/openbs d.html
There's some other OpenBSD stuff here
...it isn't a v 1.0 product yet.
If you want it, you can always get the package and install it.
Making it the default compiler would be silly when it is still in development.
This continues to develop as a great OS.
NetBSD, FreeBSD, and now OpenBSD have all had major revs in the last six months - its great to see hardware support, platform support (all BSDs are multiplatform, contrary to linux.com's assessment), and performance enhancement across the line. I fully expect these OSs to flourish intensely as support for free software increases over the next few years.
Viva BSD!