...if all government agencies adopted this policy. After all, what good is using standards if they aren't used across the board? Plus, there are so many "open standards" in many cases that it kind of defeats it's own purpose.
That the people most at risk (infants) happen to use them in the worst possible way (heated). Now it will be interesting (and scary) to see some studies on the long term effects of the exposure to the population. No wonder this generation will die younger than their parents!
That doesn't work. How would you be able to tell if it really had "consciousness" or was just telling you that based on what it was programmed with or what it had "learned" that it was supposed to experience? It's a difficult problem, I agree, but I was merely suggesting the closest approximation that we have of ascertaining if a being is "conscious". You can ask a person how they are feeling and you have to accept what they say as true, although, granted, these days we have MRIs and can tell by looking what they are feeling. But in an artificial brain, that would be much different than a human anyway. And besides, if part of the human brain dies, other parts have been shown to be able to pick up the load and adapt so even that doesn't hold up.
Again, it is definitely a complex problem, I agree.:P
Indeed. I think as we progress toward closer artificial replication of the human brain, we will learn more and more about how our brains actually work; i.e. what's required for different functionality. At this point, we just don't know enough. Kinda like in genetic study, how they though RNA was useless for 30 or 40 years and DNA was where all the useful information was stored but then it turned out that RNA is as important, if not more important than DNA.
And they only need to increase that by 100,000 times to get to about the same number of neurons as a human brain, let alone the synaptic connections (which would be somewhere on the order of 2,000,000 times what they've done). Nonetheless, progress!
Such as age, funding, skill, etc. The kids in a university/school setting are most likely younger than employees who work in an industrial setting. Schools don't have a lot of funding so that leads to trying to cut corners. Also, It's a school, a place where they are still trying to learn. In an industrial setting [hopefully] the company understands what it is dealing with and takes appropriate precautions. As mentioned in the first comment, schools do consider safety as an afterthought, but that IS in part due to lack of OSHA oversight since there is nothing forcing the safety issue like in a business setting.
NASA has had the same problem for a long time. Cutting corners due to lack of funding/trying to save money and that compromises the safety of everyone involved.
That seems very non sequitur. The kid killed himself because of the actions of his father, not the actions of the websites. Sounds like he needed better parenting, let alone the fact that a child who commits suicide over something like that obviously had some other issues. Go Thailand!
The only reason it's always that way is due to the fact it would be almost useless for an attacker to target linux because of the ratio of linux to Windows machines out there. If/When more people start using it, there will be plenty of attacks for it, especially at first, because it hasn't had all the focus of the virii/trojar/rootkit/evil motherfuckers yet.
(Disclaimer: I haven't had a Windows machine around me for years and I strongly support the use of a real OS.)
I'd really love to try this hyped up browser but I don't seem to have a Windows machine at my disposal. Throw us (linux/Mac people) a fricken bone, Google.
I've been glued to NASA TV since this began and I just have to say, the Atlantis crew kicked some serious ass! They hit some hurdles but overcame everything and went beyond everyone's expectations. Here's a summary of what got added/repaired:
Wide Field Camera 3
New gyros
New batterys
Repaired the Advanced Camera for Surveys (this is the camera responsible for the pretty photos), they got the wide-field channel working, but not the high-res channel. This was expected. Now, they have redundant communication with the ground again. (First instrument repair in space)
Installed the Cosmic Origins Spectrograph
Repaired the Space Telescope Imaging Spectrograph
Installed the Space Telescope Imaging Spectrograph #3
Replaced three sections of bad insulation with New Outer Blanket Layer
I can't wait to see the new discoveries!
That's why filtering the noise (aka Google) has become such an important business. If realtime services, such as Twitter, can figure out how to get relevant and useful information to the top of search results, this is how news will spread.
Slashdot Mirror
Maybe so, but parents do it anyway for comfort of the child.
...if all government agencies adopted this policy. After all, what good is using standards if they aren't used across the board? Plus, there are so many "open standards" in many cases that it kind of defeats it's own purpose.
That the people most at risk (infants) happen to use them in the worst possible way (heated). Now it will be interesting (and scary) to see some studies on the long term effects of the exposure to the population. No wonder this generation will die younger than their parents!
...they were just listening to techno music during the experiments?
Part of the Turing Test should be statistical analysis of the answers to look for typos or mistakes. I wouldn't expect a machine to make any.
That doesn't work. How would you be able to tell if it really had "consciousness" or was just telling you that based on what it was programmed with or what it had "learned" that it was supposed to experience? It's a difficult problem, I agree, but I was merely suggesting the closest approximation that we have of ascertaining if a being is "conscious". You can ask a person how they are feeling and you have to accept what they say as true, although, granted, these days we have MRIs and can tell by looking what they are feeling. But in an artificial brain, that would be much different than a human anyway. And besides, if part of the human brain dies, other parts have been shown to be able to pick up the load and adapt so even that doesn't hold up. Again, it is definitely a complex problem, I agree. :P
Indeed. I think as we progress toward closer artificial replication of the human brain, we will learn more and more about how our brains actually work; i.e. what's required for different functionality. At this point, we just don't know enough. Kinda like in genetic study, how they though RNA was useless for 30 or 40 years and DNA was where all the useful information was stored but then it turned out that RNA is as important, if not more important than DNA.
...invent AI that can invent better AI. Yeah for a positive feedback loop!
You should re-read my comment. I said the "best method" we have. Any other suggestions?
Pain would be good just in case you need to be able to take the thing out or teach it a lesson the hard way! :P
The best method we have at this point is a Turning Test.
And they only need to increase that by 100,000 times to get to about the same number of neurons as a human brain, let alone the synaptic connections (which would be somewhere on the order of 2,000,000 times what they've done). Nonetheless, progress!
Such as age, funding, skill, etc. The kids in a university/school setting are most likely younger than employees who work in an industrial setting. Schools don't have a lot of funding so that leads to trying to cut corners. Also, It's a school, a place where they are still trying to learn. In an industrial setting [hopefully] the company understands what it is dealing with and takes appropriate precautions. As mentioned in the first comment, schools do consider safety as an afterthought, but that IS in part due to lack of OSHA oversight since there is nothing forcing the safety issue like in a business setting. NASA has had the same problem for a long time. Cutting corners due to lack of funding/trying to save money and that compromises the safety of everyone involved.
That seems very non sequitur. The kid killed himself because of the actions of his father, not the actions of the websites. Sounds like he needed better parenting, let alone the fact that a child who commits suicide over something like that obviously had some other issues. Go Thailand!
Yeah! Louis Armstrong could sure play that trumpet!
The only reason it's always that way is due to the fact it would be almost useless for an attacker to target linux because of the ratio of linux to Windows machines out there. If/When more people start using it, there will be plenty of attacks for it, especially at first, because it hasn't had all the focus of the virii/trojar/rootkit/evil motherfuckers yet. (Disclaimer: I haven't had a Windows machine around me for years and I strongly support the use of a real OS.)
Is the data collected going to end up on data.gov?
Version 1 was slow, I haven't tried version 2 under wine. I have no motivation to run Chrome unless I can run it in my native OS.
Indeed. And they have had enough time to develop two versions so far. For Windows.
That's great but I don't want a dev build. They have now reached version 2.0 for Windows but nothing for linux/Mac? C'mon!
If you really wanted to do this, you could find it. But, it's really slow under wine anyway.
I'd really love to try this hyped up browser but I don't seem to have a Windows machine at my disposal. Throw us (linux/Mac people) a fricken bone, Google.
Then you've completely missed the point.
That's why filtering the noise (aka Google) has become such an important business. If realtime services, such as Twitter, can figure out how to get relevant and useful information to the top of search results, this is how news will spread.