Sounds fishy... Presumably the connectivity cost goes both ways? Meaning the solar panel customer has a cost too, that they would like the electrical company to contribute to?
Reading the article, it struck me as a good explanation of why AI is not getting anywhere.
By the authors criterion the solar system would take a huge number of people to shut down, and thus would be vastly more intelligent than any collection of surviving knives and forks used at AI conferences. I think that answers the other complaint of the author as well,
"There is a lack of scholarship in this area. This is, in large part, because most ideas about intelligence are deeply and fallaciously interconnected with an assumed understanding of human intelligence."
The twitter entry actually talks about mold in the apartment only indirectly. However it talks directly about the Horizon organization, at least according to http://mashable.com/2009/07/28/woman-sued-tweet/
"Who said sleeping in a moldy apartment was bad for you? [h] realty thinks itâ(TM)s okay."
So that would be difficult to prove to be true, or not?
I imagine if you derive approximation formulas to the figures, and publish them packaged as software you would be able to license it whichever way you liked - sounds "transformative" to me. Might even qualify as proper research. Would that work?
I don't think "it's only measurements" is enough to say they have no copyright. On the other hand, if the same numbers appear in different places / articles then if you establish that "these are the numbers", and you make your database in a different format, it would be a different story.
I'm not questioning what happens in the US. I'm questioning the story about "China's internet addicts".
In fact, I have heared of such programs carried out by medical doctors (as you linked to http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2007/08/school-shock), but curiously only in connection with the USA. Do you have references for other countries?
Their language and style sounds rather distinct. If other writings of them are available on the web, they should be easy to identify. There's also quite a lot of text.
If you file, maintain, or voluntarily participate in a patent infringement lawsuit against a Microsoft implementation of any Covered Specification, then this personal promise does not apply with respect to any Covered Implementation made or used by you.
Not sure what that means; it sounds quite complicated to me. In particular, can the list of "Covered Specifications" change later?
This is a personal promise directly from Microsoft to you, and you acknowledge as a condition of benefiting from it that no Microsoft rights are received from suppliers, distributors, or otherwise in connection with this promise.
Using you is suspiscious to me. There are lots of legal entities to which you doesn't apply.
Then there is a huge caveat
If you file, maintain, or voluntarily participate in a patent infringement lawsuit against a Microsoft implementation of any Covered Specification, then this personal promise does not apply with respect to any Covered Implementation made or used by you.
I read this to mean as long as you don't bother us, you can use this-and-that. Notice the word used at the end. The FAQ says
This type of "suspension" clause is common industry practice
However, it never ever appears in "open-source-licenses" that I know of.
I see a lot of cheap anger in the comments here about paying taxes.
I don't think there's much wrong with a government collecting taxes.
What is wrong in the US however, is the insane level of military spending, and recently those insane bail-out amounts. That's what should elicit anger.
Other than that I look at taxes as a pitch-in -- collect money from everyone, and build something that individuals couldn't by themselves. The complaints about paying taxes always strike me as petty.
I see a correlation between the low tax levels in the US (and the above mentioned insane waste of these low taxes), and the low quality of infrastructure in the US: bad roads, bad sidewalks, cheap / non-existent bus service, a completely ridiculous public school system.
I also think this is a cheap trick of Amazon. Businesses in general don't like to pay taxes, but reap all the benefits of the infrastructure that they pay for. They do like the free-ride.
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Sounds fishy ... Presumably the connectivity cost goes both ways? Meaning the solar panel customer has a cost too, that they would like the electrical company to contribute to?
Stephan
I think you're right!
Stephan
Reading the article, it struck me as a good explanation of why AI is not getting anywhere.
By the authors criterion the solar system would take a huge number of people to shut down, and thus would be vastly more intelligent than any collection of surviving knives and forks used at AI conferences. I think that answers the other complaint of the author as well,
"There is a lack of scholarship in this area. This is, in large part, because most ideas about intelligence are deeply and fallaciously interconnected with an assumed understanding of human intelligence."
Oh well,
Stephan
You are talking in two tongues. First you say you're going to click on a link with an IP address; then you say you like the other copy/paste method.
But why would you trust a link with a domain name more??
Just use the previous poster's method!
Stephan
> But sometimes they just act like children.
I wouldn't worry about it too much.
It's remarkable that the incident is so public.
Stephan
"stern criticism" -> link 1
"decided to walk away" -> link 2
"quite clear that he is serious" -> link 3
I think you got it upside-down and inside-out.
The twitter entry actually talks about mold in the apartment only indirectly. However it talks directly about the Horizon organization, at least according to http://mashable.com/2009/07/28/woman-sued-tweet/
"Who said sleeping in a moldy apartment was bad for you? [h] realty thinks itâ(TM)s okay."
So that would be difficult to prove to be true, or not?
Stephan
It looks like they are selling some database
http://www.nist.gov/srd/dblist.htm
And providing others for free,
http://srdata.nist.gov/gateway/gateway?dblist=0
Which one are you after? Something like this?
http://www.metallurgy.nist.gov/phase/solder/solder.tdb
I imagine if you derive approximation formulas to the figures, and publish them packaged as software you
would be able to license it whichever way you liked - sounds "transformative" to me. Might even qualify as proper research.
Would that work?
I don't think "it's only measurements" is enough to say they have no copyright. On the other hand, if the same
numbers appear in different places / articles then if you establish that "these are the numbers", and you make your
database in a different format, it would be a different story.
Stephan
It will take a huge amount of patience to teach such a brain. I think, nobody is ever ever as patient with a computer as with another human being.
So after this new kind of brain works, at least another 10 years of learning / teaching? And then start over again...
Stephan
Not completely different for the victim, who is accused of violating the laws of another country.
For them it's pretty similar.
Stephan
Exactly.
Stephan
I thought it was known for a long time that there is a link between creativity and schizophrenia. Seems perfectly natural to me.
Stephan
I am getting the suspicion that this story pretends this to be a bigger issue because it affects an American company.
However, this kind of "which laws are affecting what I do" has already got individuals. See for example the case of Hew Raymond Griffiths,
* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hew_Raymond_Griffiths
* http://www.ibls.com/internet_law_news_portal_view.aspx?id=1778&s=latestnews
Griffiths was extradited from Australia to the U.S., a country he had never visited, for some "Intellectual Property" crimes.
For a company it is a mere money issue, but when individuals are extradited it becomes extremely problematic.
Stephan
Yes ok, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Wide_Association_of_Specialty_Programs_and_Schools says,
Do you have references for other countries that are not connected to the USA?
Stephan
I'm not questioning what happens in the US. I'm questioning the story about "China's internet addicts".
In fact, I have heared of such programs carried out by medical doctors (as you linked to http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2007/08/school-shock), but curiously only in connection with the USA. Do you have references for other countries?
Stephan
Typo or no typo, edit button or no edit button; if it goes on in the US, the story can certainly also be made up in the US.
Stephan
I don't believe the story. Sounds too silly and arbitrary
Stephan
Their language and style sounds rather distinct. If other writings of them are available on the web, they should be easy to identify.
There's also quite a lot of text.
Stephan
Doesn't that depend on the temparature?
Stephan
Better may not be good. The promise is too complicated for me to think that it is good.
Stephan
I think the patent infringement needs to be related to a "Microsoft implementation of any Covered Specification".
See
http://www.microsoft.com/interop/cp/default.mspx
Not sure what that means; it sounds quite complicated to me. In particular, can the list of "Covered Specifications" change later?
Stephan
I think the language is quite weak, and could be stronger if they wanted. Quoting from http://www.microsoft.com/interop/cp/default.mspx:
Using you is suspiscious to me. There are lots of legal entities to which you doesn't apply.
Then there is a huge caveat
I read this to mean as long as you don't bother us, you can use this-and-that. Notice the word used at the end. The FAQ says
However, it never ever appears in "open-source-licenses" that I know of.
Stephan
Was that recent Seattle train crash also connected to MS ?
Stephan
I see a lot of cheap anger in the comments here about paying taxes.
I don't think there's much wrong with a government collecting taxes.
What is wrong in the US however, is the insane level of military spending, and recently those insane bail-out amounts. That's what should elicit anger.
Other than that I look at taxes as a pitch-in -- collect money from everyone, and build something that individuals couldn't by themselves. The complaints about paying taxes always strike me as petty.
I see a correlation between the low tax levels in the US (and the above mentioned insane waste of these low taxes), and the low quality of infrastructure in the US: bad roads, bad sidewalks, cheap / non-existent bus service, a completely ridiculous public school system.
I also think this is a cheap trick of Amazon. Businesses in general don't like to pay taxes, but reap all the benefits of the infrastructure that they pay for. They do like the free-ride.
Have a nice weekend !
Stephan
'All files were properly detected and treated by the product,'
Aren't there other attacks besides file-based ?? This sounds rather silly!
Stephan