You're perfectly within your rights to think the current implementation of the copyright law is stupid, but that doesn't make it right to break it
Rules are made by fools to be interpreted by wise men. I will not willingly follow my government into 1984.
I'd like to see these people admitting that not only are they breaking the law, but that they are also deliberately ignoring the wishes of the rightful copyright holder.
I most certainly am breaking the law. Fuck it, it's a bad law that needs to change. But I don't honestly know if I'm ignoring the wishes of the copyright holder because the artists whom I download from haven't said shit on the matter. Unless, of course, the copyright holder is the Music Industry conglomerates, and not the artists themselves. If that's the case, than not only am I deliberately ignoring the wishes of the rightful copyright holder, but I'm doing it with GLEE!
There's a difference between an insult and an ad hominem argument. I'm not degrading my opponents in an attempt to disprove their point of view; I don't like them, based on what they have said, and I'm letting them know it. If I had said 'You are a noob and therefore you are wrong,' I would be guilty of ad hominem reasoning. However, you will note that my comments are backed by firm and supported reasoning, although if you find it misled I invite you to prove me wrong.
According to dictionary.com, a pinko is a person who holds moderately leftist political views. I suppose that could be insulting if there was outstanding evidence that left of center is wrong, but as it stands, I think 'commie' is a better choice for your purposes.
Libertarianism is a naive philosophy? Well, I do not want to be a victim of naivete, could you explain to me why Libertarianism is so naive?
If you would care for me to prepare a paper for you detailing all the places where RMS and I disagree, I would be more than willing. The reasons I previously mentioned were chosen because of his notorious stance on them. I didn't want to discuss, say, my preference of monolithic kernels versus microkernels without knowing that you both understood the difference and were aware of RMS' point of view.
I didn't provide sufficient reasoning of the logical fallacy as a form of IQ test.
That form of IQ test could only stand up if you know beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are right, and those who disagree with you are stupid. If you are of such a frame of mind, than I bid you good day, as this quarrel will progress no further.
And on top of it all, you're still an Anonymous Coward. Although you did motivate me to choose a new signature. I certainly don't want anybody to consider me a mindless drone of RMS, nor anyone for that matter. BTW, I didn't change my signature because I thought you were guilty of ad hominem/non sequitur reasoning.
Funny, I'm a college dropout as well. I'm not sure what a pinko is, but I'm familiar with the term "commie," and no, I'm not one; I'm a libertarian.
As for being a Stallman lover, you are quite off fbase. I find that I agree with most of what he says, but I disagree with a lot of it also. Specifically, the importance of saying "Free Softare" and "GNU/Linux."
The "formal logic" you exemplified is underwhelming, to say the least. Then again, you are an Anonymous Coward.
Next time you sense a "logical fallacy," provide sufficient reasoning, lest you inculpate yourself as being a nincompoop again.
No you don't have a moral justification either, if you're doing it against the copyright owner's wishes.
Well, Section 1, Article 8 of the US Constitution makes me think otherwise:
"To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;"
So what do you do when Copyright Law, an implementation of this design, fails to promote the the progress of science and the useful arts? Why, you change the law, you silly noob. And if the law doesn't wanna change, you pretend like you have a pair and disobey.
Then again, I refuse to consider rap as music (unless its backed by some brilliant playing like the Roots) so I might be an old fart after all...
The turntables don't move themselves, ya'know. Unfortunately, you've probably never heard a contemporary rap BAND, with real DJs. I can't blame you for not liking rap because everything you'll hear through the usual channels is Grade A Hackneyed SHIT! Check out Jurassic 5 and Black Eyed Peas. There are also some standalone DJs that kick ass, DJ-Qbert being exceptionally prominent in my mind. And don't forget about Grandmaster Flash!
Young people who are quite happy being "just plain cool" will listen to Limp Bizkit and love it, and in five years they'll be complaining no music has come out in the last five years that was any good - that Limp Bizkit was The End Of Metal.
Ok, so what about the young person who thought that 'Rearranged' was an awesome, fresh, ass kicking song; one that will stand the test of time just like 'Photograph' by 'Def Leppard'. But, conversely, they thought that 'Rollin' was a pile of horse shit, just like the dirty-old-lecher-anthem stinkbomb 'Pour Some Sugar on Me' by 'Def Leppard?'
To me, this is a wonderful nod in the direction of musicians and particularly A&R people, who are able to stay with the trends and keep giving the teenagers what they want.
What the majority of these fucktard teenagers want (yes, I'm implicating you, fucktard) is whatever is trendy. They don't know what they like, they are predominantly told what they want by mass media and their fucktard friends; they're too damn cognitively vacant to really decide what they like and dislike on their own.
And don't accuse me of elitism, I believe the fact that most people base their opinions on what their culture feeds them is bullshit in its purest form; I will rail against it until the universe implodes or, whatever it's supposed to do.
I have learned of so many GOOD bands that I would never of heard of had I not downloaded music for free. I couldn't even name all of the music I've discovered!
Seriously man, after getting a taste of the net, I will never go back to MTV and the radio. Blind Guardian, Jump Little Children, Guster, Violent Work of Art, Void Main, Magic Mushrooms, Maxwell Straits, Cannibal Corpse, Demon Hunter, Vomitron...
I'm spending more money on artists now than ever before. The only problem with file sharing is how poor it's making me!
A brain. Bush is a 100% Ivy League educated moron. If all that mattered in the real world were diplomas, senior level employment opportunities wouldn't ask for a record of previous employment.
That's just it... it doesn't MATTER what your definition of ANYTHING is. If you're a judge weighing a case related to this issue, then I stand corrected.
The Government gets its authority from the consent of the Governed. If the Governed do not like the way the Government is running the show, they demand (and get) change. Remember prohibition?
I dropped out of my College because of this bullshit. I was under the impression that universities were supposed to be a haven for intellectual development, but they are as vulnerable to the poisonous speech of dollars and litigation as anything else.
Regarding your treatment of the PCI Device list at www.yourvote.com/pci/...
Your efforts to alienate your userbase and eliminate a _free_ and useful service are quite laudable, I must say. This is, perhaps, the most pathetic example of lawyering I have seen in my (limited) time.
It should be noted that since the aforementioned list is _not_ a business function of any sort, their mere use of the name PCI does not constitute infringement. If you truly feel that users may be misled into believing that this is an official list, and that this will somehow damage that _wonderful_ reputation you have, then merely prefixing the word "Unofficial" to the title would ameliorate this problem most excellently.
In the same sense that Prima publishing is legally allowed to release unofficial strategy guides for trademarked entertainment products, so to is an ordinary citizen allowed to maintain a database of useful information regarding the PCI standard.
And by the way, what a useless consortium you are. I've been an enthusiast PC user for half a decade now, and was never aware of your existence; such is your usefulness to the industry. I suppose it is befitting that I learn of your existence through these preposterous actions.
Eric Raymond has gone to the trouble of preparing an entire faq
on Libertarianism. Perhaps you would care to read it before heedlessy dispensing unsupported and belligerent accusations?
I've been thinking about this for a while myself. I have a hard time using Google because it is based on keeping non-free software. Its functionality is derived from the fact that it has roughly 100 top secret algorithms that make it hard for people to boost themselves unduly in page ratings. Its profit model is based on the fact that nobody else has access to this technology.
Personally, that pisses me off. Security through obscurity doesn't work, so I don't have any high hopes here. And I can't agree with forcing the rest of the world to reinvent the wheel if they wanna make a search engine. Non-free software blows.
For a community moderated search engine (really a directory, check it out for more info), visit www.dmoz.org
From dictionary.com: addiction 1a. Compulsive physiological and psychological need for a habit-forming substance: a drug used in the treatment of heroin addiction. 1b. An instance of this: a person with multiple chemical addictions. 2a. The condition of being habitually or compulsively occupied with or or involved in something. 2b. An instance of this: had an addiction for fast cars.
Perhaps this source isn't reputable enough to support my upcoming claim, but I'd like to point out that the preceding definition makes no mention of the impact addiction has on one's social life. I'm pointing this out because the cited article, and public conciousness, tends to append "social desolation" to addiction's list of symptoms.
This bothers me. My roommate has a heavy, self-professed dependency on soda. My parents can't get started in the morning without a cup of coffee. My siblings will fall over dead (I kid you not!) if they miss "awesome tv show X." However, they all have healthy social lives; does this mean they are not addicted? Just because these habits don't separate them from society doesn't mean they aren't addictions, IMHO.
I, on another hand, have no social life; in fact, I'm generally loathe to interact with people. I would rather hack than "hang out" (::shudder::). Does this mean I am addicted to hacking?
I find that I am happiest hacking, that is why I choose to do it. I find that I dislike socializing, and it substracts from the time I have available to my personal pursuits, so I choose not to do it. These are concious decisions; neither compulsive nor habitual. I also vacation from hacking at intervals, and I indulge in many other hobbies and interests in addition to hacking; though it may be my primary occupation, it is not the sole proprietor of my livelihood. Therefore, I would conclude that I am not addicted to it.
On the contrary, it is those individuals who simply _must_ interact with each other in perpetuity that are the addicts;-)
Note: I am aware that this post constitutes a form of human interaction. My aforementioned lack of a social life is in the traditional sense; I do manage to exchange information with other human beings through various mediums from time to time.
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You're perfectly within your rights to think the current implementation of the copyright law is stupid, but that doesn't make it right to break it
Rules are made by fools to be interpreted by wise men. I will not willingly follow my government into 1984.
I'd like to see these people admitting that not only are they breaking the law, but that they are also deliberately ignoring the wishes of the rightful copyright holder.
I most certainly am breaking the law. Fuck it, it's a bad law that needs to change. But I don't honestly know if I'm ignoring the wishes of the copyright holder because the artists whom I download from haven't said shit on the matter. Unless, of course, the copyright holder is the Music Industry conglomerates, and not the artists themselves. If that's the case, than not only am I deliberately ignoring the wishes of the rightful copyright holder, but I'm doing it with GLEE!
There's a difference between an insult and an ad hominem argument. I'm not degrading my opponents in an attempt to disprove their point of view; I don't like them, based on what they have said, and I'm letting them know it. If I had said 'You are a noob and therefore you are wrong,' I would be guilty of ad hominem reasoning. However, you will note that my comments are backed by firm and supported reasoning, although if you find it misled I invite you to prove me wrong.
According to dictionary.com, a pinko is a person who holds moderately leftist political views. I suppose that could be insulting if there was outstanding evidence that left of center is wrong, but as it stands, I think 'commie' is a better choice for your purposes.
Libertarianism is a naive philosophy? Well, I do not want to be a victim of naivete, could you explain to me why Libertarianism is so naive?
If you would care for me to prepare a paper for you detailing all the places where RMS and I disagree, I would be more than willing. The reasons I previously mentioned were chosen because of his notorious stance on them. I didn't want to discuss, say, my preference of monolithic kernels versus microkernels without knowing that you both understood the difference and were aware of RMS' point of view.
I didn't provide sufficient reasoning of the logical fallacy as a form of IQ test.
That form of IQ test could only stand up if you know beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are right, and those who disagree with you are stupid. If you are of such a frame of mind, than I bid you good day, as this quarrel will progress no further.
And on top of it all, you're still an Anonymous Coward. Although you did motivate me to choose a new signature. I certainly don't want anybody to consider me a mindless drone of RMS, nor anyone for that matter. BTW, I didn't change my signature because I thought you were guilty of ad hominem/non sequitur reasoning.
Funny, I'm a college dropout as well. I'm not sure what a pinko is, but I'm familiar with the term "commie," and no, I'm not one; I'm a libertarian. As for being a Stallman lover, you are quite off fbase. I find that I agree with most of what he says, but I disagree with a lot of it also. Specifically, the importance of saying "Free Softare" and "GNU/Linux."
The "formal logic" you exemplified is underwhelming, to say the least. Then again, you are an Anonymous Coward.
Next time you sense a "logical fallacy," provide sufficient reasoning, lest you inculpate yourself as being a nincompoop again.
Noob. Fear my elite reasoning skills.
No you don't have a moral justification either, if you're doing it against the copyright owner's wishes.
Well, Section 1, Article 8 of the US Constitution makes me think otherwise:
"To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;"
So what do you do when Copyright Law, an implementation of this design, fails to promote the the progress of science and the useful arts? Why, you change the law, you silly noob. And if the law doesn't wanna change, you pretend like you have a pair and disobey.
I smell %100 college educated, formally logical jackass.
But I could be wrong, and am amply willing to be proven so.
Then again, I refuse to consider rap as music (unless its backed by some brilliant playing like the Roots) so I might be an old fart after all...
The turntables don't move themselves, ya'know. Unfortunately, you've probably never heard a contemporary rap BAND, with real DJs. I can't blame you for not liking rap because everything you'll hear through the usual channels is Grade A Hackneyed SHIT! Check out Jurassic 5 and Black Eyed Peas. There are also some standalone DJs that kick ass, DJ-Qbert being exceptionally prominent in my mind. And don't forget about Grandmaster Flash!
Damn you to hell, bitch.
Young people who are quite happy being "just plain cool" will listen to Limp Bizkit and love it, and in five years they'll be complaining no music has come out in the last five years that was any good - that Limp Bizkit was The End Of Metal.
Ok, so what about the young person who thought that 'Rearranged' was an awesome, fresh, ass kicking song; one that will stand the test of time just like 'Photograph' by 'Def Leppard'. But, conversely, they thought that 'Rollin' was a pile of horse shit, just like the dirty-old-lecher-anthem stinkbomb 'Pour Some Sugar on Me' by 'Def Leppard?'
To me, this is a wonderful nod in the direction of musicians and particularly A&R people, who are able to stay with the trends and keep giving the teenagers what they want.
What the majority of these fucktard teenagers want (yes, I'm implicating you, fucktard) is whatever is trendy. They don't know what they like, they are predominantly told what they want by mass media and their fucktard friends; they're too damn cognitively vacant to really decide what they like and dislike on their own.
And don't accuse me of elitism, I believe the fact that most people base their opinions on what their culture feeds them is bullshit in its purest form; I will rail against it until the universe implodes or, whatever it's supposed to do.
I have learned of so many GOOD bands that I would never of heard of had I not downloaded music for free. I couldn't even name all of the music I've discovered!
Seriously man, after getting a taste of the net, I will never go back to MTV and the radio. Blind Guardian, Jump Little Children, Guster, Violent Work of Art, Void Main, Magic Mushrooms, Maxwell Straits, Cannibal Corpse, Demon Hunter, Vomitron...
I'm spending more money on artists now than ever before. The only problem with file sharing is how poor it's making me!
He has an Ivy League MBA, what do you have?
A brain. Bush is a 100% Ivy League educated moron. If all that mattered in the real world were diplomas, senior level employment opportunities wouldn't ask for a record of previous employment.
That's just it... it doesn't MATTER what your definition of ANYTHING is. If you're a judge weighing a case related to this issue, then I stand corrected.
The Government gets its authority from the consent of the Governed. If the Governed do not like the way the Government is running the show, they demand (and get) change. Remember prohibition?
I dropped out of my College because of this bullshit. I was under the impression that universities were supposed to be a haven for intellectual development, but they are as vulnerable to the poisonous speech of dollars and litigation as anything else.
FWIW, I just sent them this letter of praise:
Regarding your treatment of the PCI Device list at www.yourvote.com/pci/...
Your efforts to alienate your userbase and eliminate a _free_ and useful service are quite laudable, I must say. This is, perhaps, the most pathetic example of lawyering I have seen in my (limited) time.
It should be noted that since the aforementioned list is _not_ a business function of any sort, their mere use of the name PCI does not constitute infringement. If you truly feel that users may be misled into believing that this is an official list, and that this will somehow damage that _wonderful_ reputation you have, then merely prefixing the word "Unofficial" to the title would ameliorate this problem most excellently.
In the same sense that Prima publishing is legally allowed to release unofficial strategy guides for trademarked entertainment products, so to is an ordinary citizen allowed to maintain a database of useful information regarding the PCI standard.
And by the way, what a useless consortium you are. I've been an enthusiast PC user for half a decade now, and was never aware of your existence; such is your usefulness to the industry. I suppose it is befitting that I learn of your existence through these preposterous actions.
Lovingly,
Pete Bessman
Eric Raymond has gone to the trouble of preparing an entire faq on Libertarianism. Perhaps you would care to read it before heedlessy dispensing unsupported and belligerent accusations?
I've been thinking about this for a while myself. I have a hard time using Google because it is based on keeping non-free software. Its functionality is derived from the fact that it has roughly 100 top secret algorithms that make it hard for people to boost themselves unduly in page ratings. Its profit model is based on the fact that nobody else has access to this technology.
Personally, that pisses me off. Security through obscurity doesn't work, so I don't have any high hopes here. And I can't agree with forcing the rest of the world to reinvent the wheel if they wanna make a search engine. Non-free software blows.
For a community moderated search engine (really a directory, check it out for more info), visit www.dmoz.org
From dictionary.com:
;-)
addiction
1a. Compulsive physiological and psychological need for a habit-forming substance: a drug used in the treatment of heroin addiction.
1b. An instance of this: a person with multiple chemical addictions.
2a. The condition of being habitually or compulsively occupied with or or involved in something.
2b. An instance of this: had an addiction for fast cars.
Perhaps this source isn't reputable enough to support my upcoming claim, but I'd like to point out that the preceding definition makes no mention of the impact addiction has on one's social life. I'm pointing this out because the cited article, and public conciousness, tends to append "social desolation" to addiction's list of symptoms.
This bothers me. My roommate has a heavy, self-professed dependency on soda. My parents can't get started in the morning without a cup of coffee. My siblings will fall over dead (I kid you not!) if they miss "awesome tv show X." However, they all have healthy social lives; does this mean they are not addicted? Just because these habits don't separate them from society doesn't mean they aren't addictions, IMHO.
I, on another hand, have no social life; in fact, I'm generally loathe to interact with people. I would rather hack than "hang out" (::shudder::). Does this mean I am addicted to hacking?
I find that I am happiest hacking, that is why I choose to do it. I find that I dislike socializing, and it substracts from the time I have available to my personal pursuits, so I choose not to do it. These are concious decisions; neither compulsive nor habitual. I also vacation from hacking at intervals, and I indulge in many other hobbies and interests in addition to hacking; though it may be my primary occupation, it is not the sole proprietor of my livelihood. Therefore, I would conclude that I am not addicted to it.
On the contrary, it is those individuals who simply _must_ interact with each other in perpetuity that are the addicts
Note: I am aware that this post constitutes a form of human interaction. My aforementioned lack of a social life is in the traditional sense; I do manage to exchange information with other human beings through various mediums from time to time.