I should like to point out that I have been quite polite and respectful this entire time. YOU are the one who is being hateful and intolerant. Yet I am sure that you consider yourself quite tolerant -- to everybody who agrees with you.
If I were actually using just the parts that I like, we would not be having this discussion since I have no personal problems with homosexuality.
Please, if you are here simply to troll, I would ask that you keep it to yourself.
I have posted enough. Google is your friend (or DuckDuckGo, or IxQuick). I just got a box of shiny new Arduino boards. Time to have some fun! Have a great evening!
The mixed fabrics was also near the part about not mixing different types of herd animals to pull a plow. It was a metaphor. Those laws were to point to the need for Jesus to come. Once he came, those laws were, in essence, fulfilled. The dietary restrictions were even explicitly removed.
Those laws were for the Old Testament period. The New Testament did away with those regulations. Also, anything really important is repeated several times.
I believe one of the main characters in the bible has something to say about casting stones that might be apropos though.
Really? Do I have a stone? I am not judging anybody! I honestly don't care what your lifestyle is, as long as it does not affect me. I am just telling you what the Bible says. Judging is not my job, and it not even a job that I would want. Jesus did say that I am to go and make disciples of all men. My job is to simply speak the truth in love. That's it, bro! Nothing more.
Really? "Do not cook a young goat in its motherâ(TM)s milk."
Sorry, cheeseburgers are not generally made from goat. Even if they were, burgers are fried, and not boiled. And even if you DID boil your goat burger in goat milk, the odds of the meat being cooked in the milk from the same mother is astronomically small.
There is certainly some truth in what you say. There are a lot of people to whom Christianity is a mere religion - a list of "dos and don'ts" and nothing more. It is sad.
Honestly, there are a lot of Christians out there that seriously piss me off. There are web sites like THIS that make me ashamed to be called a Christian in this culture. That is not the sort of behavior that Jesus expects of us.
Wow. They had spandex 2000 years ago?! I had no idea that polymers were explored so thoroughly in Biblical times.
By the way, where do "rights" come from? Seriously? Who decides what is a right and what isn't? Here is what is says in the Declaration of Independence:
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
If there is no creator, then how can he grand unalienable rights? Without God, what is a right is determined entirely by what the government says is a right.
You are really going there? Fine. How about Vladimir Lenin and Mao Tse-tung as great examples of atheists. They are proof that any random atheist is willing to kill MILLIONS in order to obtain power. This argument is patently absurd.
Sorry, but turning your back on your nature is what we ALL do. When my kids were young, they were quite happy to take the toys from their siblings and hit them over the head with it, yelling "mine!" Even today, I see some cars driving down the street and feel jealousy because I drive and older piece of junk. Part of growing up in a civilized society is learning how to get along with others: dont' steal, dont't hit, don't lie.
A view, might I add, that is interpreted based on a book supposedly written thousands of years ago that has been translated and rewritten dozens, even hundreds of times.
Well, sorry to burst your bubble, but all modern translations are based on what most scholars agree were the ORIGINAL writings. The Old Testament was copied very rigorously with numerous checks to make sure that they were copied perfectly. Imperfect copies were destroyed. Even if you accept the fact that the occasional error MIGHT creep in, the facts that we have hundreds of manuscripts mean that they can be checked against each other. There are manuscripts which are almost 2000 years old.
As far as the New Testament, we only have over 20,000 manuscripts, with over 5000 in the original Greek, and over 10,000 that were translated to Latin.
As to modern translations, modern translations are from the original Hebrew and Greek. Sorry to tell you this, but almost everything you said was a lie.
Also, it's patently offensive that you believe that someone needs "saving" from their own nature - we're not talking about psychopaths or serial killers here, we're talking about people who cannot find themselves attracted to the opposite gender.
Sorry if it is offensive. I did not write the Bible. I am not God. If there is no God, then I am wasting my time and you can get a good laugh at my expense. If there is a God, and he is indeed responsible for the Bible, then I had better not pick and choose which sections I choose to believe.
Well, since you brought it up, I am a follower of Jesus. And I take a very pragmatic approach to homosexuality.
The Bible says that homosexuality is a sin... period... However, as an American, it is not the job of the government to legislate morality. Women are not killed for adultery these days. Drunks are not thrown in prison (as long as they don't drive). It is not the job of the government to make sure that everybody lives a clean wholesome life.
I can honestly say that if you are gay, I really don't care one bit. Really! You just have to understand that, if the Bible is right, that you will not be able to get into Heaven leading a lifestyle of sin. That includes not only homosexuality, but adultery, drunkenness, lying, anger, etc. If you choose to accept the eternal consequences, do whatever makes you happy. It is really none of my business.
I do love the stereotyping where you say:
My religion teaches that you are subhuman scum.
Nope. Wrong. You are a sinner, as am I. The reality is that we are ALL scum, especially me, which is why we all need Jesus. I have simply tried to turn my back on sin as much as I can and I trust Jesus to take care of the rest. There is NO sin so bad that the blood of Jesus cannot cover it -- all you have to do is trust Him. The TRUE followers of Jesus do NOT think that you are scum. They think that you are worth saving and they want you to be in Heaven too. They do it not out of malice, but out of love.
Christians come from a completely different world view. The atheist believes that this life is all that there is, so do whatever you want to to make yourself happy, as long as you do not hurt others. The Christian believes that there IS an afterlife, and our job is to help as many people get there with us as they can by turning from ALL sins, and turning towards God.
The thing that you have to realize is that there are more than a few jerks out there (cough. Westboro Baptist Church. cough. and lots of others. cough.) who have totally forgotten the "love" of Jesus. Those guys are best ignored.
Now, if you really want to be treated as subhuman scum, try Islam, where homosexuality will get you killed immediately.
And I am sure that you spent money supporting gay marriage. Some people disagree. I just don't see why people can't be polite while they disagree, instead of all of this jumping up and down and screaming.
Homosexuality has been taboo for the last few centuries in western culture. Some things take time to change. You cannot be surprised if centuries of social inertia take longer than than a generation or two to turn around.
Here is an idea: try winning people over to your side with NICENESS! Radical thought, I know.
So, apparently you must be in the habit of blindly voting for whichever side spends the most money without actually understanding the issues involved, right?
How is his stance related to the job, other than it is unpopular?
Proposition 8 passed with 52.24% of the voters voting FOR it. Please define "unpopular." Perhaps it is just that the people against Prop 8 were a lot more vocal?
Yellow is not the only choice. Agilent seem to go with orange. But the color IS important. If you are an electrician working at somebody's house, when it is time to go, a bright yellow or orange box is much less likely to be set down and forgotten when it is time to pack up and leave.
Since the Democrats are so big on propping up social security, then why are they trying so hard to ban smoking, trans-fats and large sodas? It seems the more bad habits people get, the easier it is to make sure that social security is around for future generations.
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I should like to point out that I have been quite polite and respectful this entire time. YOU are the one who is being hateful and intolerant. Yet I am sure that you consider yourself quite tolerant -- to everybody who agrees with you.
If I were actually using just the parts that I like, we would not be having this discussion since I have no personal problems with homosexuality.
Please, if you are here simply to troll, I would ask that you keep it to yourself.
Are you trolling me, or are you really so lazy that you can't use Google?
These were not spoken by Jesus, but still in the New Testament.
http://www.biblegateway.com/pa...
http://www.biblegateway.com/pa...
http://www.biblegateway.com/pa...
Ummm. The literal interpretation IS what we are talking about here. Did you even read your post before you hit "submit?"
I have posted enough. Google is your friend (or DuckDuckGo, or IxQuick). I just got a box of shiny new Arduino boards. Time to have some fun! Have a great evening!
Ever heard of Google? Or Wikipedia? I am far from an expert, FYI.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
The mixed fabrics was also near the part about not mixing different types of herd animals to pull a plow. It was a metaphor. Those laws were to point to the need for Jesus to come. Once he came, those laws were, in essence, fulfilled. The dietary restrictions were even explicitly removed.
Those laws were for the Old Testament period. The New Testament did away with those regulations. Also, anything really important is repeated several times.
Really? Do I have a stone? I am not judging anybody! I honestly don't care what your lifestyle is, as long as it does not affect me. I am just telling you what the Bible says. Judging is not my job, and it not even a job that I would want. Jesus did say that I am to go and make disciples of all men. My job is to simply speak the truth in love. That's it, bro! Nothing more.
Really? "Do not cook a young goat in its motherâ(TM)s milk."
Sorry, cheeseburgers are not generally made from goat. Even if they were, burgers are fried, and not boiled. And even if you DID boil your goat burger in goat milk, the odds of the meat being cooked in the milk from the same mother is astronomically small.
True, but I can assure you that those "modifications" are not in the most recent versions.
There is certainly some truth in what you say. There are a lot of people to whom Christianity is a mere religion - a list of "dos and don'ts" and nothing more. It is sad.
Honestly, there are a lot of Christians out there that seriously piss me off. There are web sites like THIS that make me ashamed to be called a Christian in this culture. That is not the sort of behavior that Jesus expects of us.
If this were actually true, then Ghandi would have been forgotten completely by now.
I tried to be as polite as I could, yet I held your attention long enough for you to read my post and for you to respond.
Wow. They had spandex 2000 years ago?! I had no idea that polymers were explored so thoroughly in Biblical times.
By the way, where do "rights" come from? Seriously? Who decides what is a right and what isn't? Here is what is says in the Declaration of Independence:
If there is no creator, then how can he grand unalienable rights? Without God, what is a right is determined entirely by what the government says is a right.
You are really going there? Fine. How about Vladimir Lenin and Mao Tse-tung as great examples of atheists. They are proof that any random atheist is willing to kill MILLIONS in order to obtain power. This argument is patently absurd.
Sorry, but Jesus did not condone murder (Luke 22, verses 49-51)
http://www.biblegateway.com/pa...
Sort of like in the movies when a mafia hit man kills somebody and then goes to confession. He is fooling himself.
Sorry, but turning your back on your nature is what we ALL do. When my kids were young, they were quite happy to take the toys from their siblings and hit them over the head with it, yelling "mine!" Even today, I see some cars driving down the street and feel jealousy because I drive and older piece of junk. Part of growing up in a civilized society is learning how to get along with others: dont' steal, dont't hit, don't lie.
Well, sorry to burst your bubble, but all modern translations are based on what most scholars agree were the ORIGINAL writings. The Old Testament was copied very rigorously with numerous checks to make sure that they were copied perfectly. Imperfect copies were destroyed. Even if you accept the fact that the occasional error MIGHT creep in, the facts that we have hundreds of manuscripts mean that they can be checked against each other. There are manuscripts which are almost 2000 years old.
As far as the New Testament, we only have over 20,000 manuscripts, with over 5000 in the original Greek, and over 10,000 that were translated to Latin.
As to modern translations, modern translations are from the original Hebrew and Greek. Sorry to tell you this, but almost everything you said was a lie.
Sorry if it is offensive. I did not write the Bible. I am not God. If there is no God, then I am wasting my time and you can get a good laugh at my expense. If there is a God, and he is indeed responsible for the Bible, then I had better not pick and choose which sections I choose to believe.
True, but you are not forgiven of sins unless you repent -- which means that you agree that it is wrong and are sorry for doing it.
I apologize. It was not my intention to offend you.
Well, since you brought it up, I am a follower of Jesus. And I take a very pragmatic approach to homosexuality.
The Bible says that homosexuality is a sin... period... However, as an American, it is not the job of the government to legislate morality. Women are not killed for adultery these days. Drunks are not thrown in prison (as long as they don't drive). It is not the job of the government to make sure that everybody lives a clean wholesome life.
I can honestly say that if you are gay, I really don't care one bit. Really! You just have to understand that, if the Bible is right, that you will not be able to get into Heaven leading a lifestyle of sin. That includes not only homosexuality, but adultery, drunkenness, lying, anger, etc. If you choose to accept the eternal consequences, do whatever makes you happy. It is really none of my business.
I do love the stereotyping where you say:
Nope. Wrong. You are a sinner, as am I. The reality is that we are ALL scum, especially me, which is why we all need Jesus. I have simply tried to turn my back on sin as much as I can and I trust Jesus to take care of the rest. There is NO sin so bad that the blood of Jesus cannot cover it -- all you have to do is trust Him. The TRUE followers of Jesus do NOT think that you are scum. They think that you are worth saving and they want you to be in Heaven too. They do it not out of malice, but out of love.
Christians come from a completely different world view. The atheist believes that this life is all that there is, so do whatever you want to to make yourself happy, as long as you do not hurt others. The Christian believes that there IS an afterlife, and our job is to help as many people get there with us as they can by turning from ALL sins, and turning towards God.
The thing that you have to realize is that there are more than a few jerks out there (cough. Westboro Baptist Church. cough. and lots of others. cough.) who have totally forgotten the "love" of Jesus. Those guys are best ignored.
Now, if you really want to be treated as subhuman scum, try Islam, where homosexuality will get you killed immediately.
Well, when you felt "insulted" I just assumed that you were one of those people who were on board with the Firefox boycott.
And I am sure that you spent money supporting gay marriage. Some people disagree. I just don't see why people can't be polite while they disagree, instead of all of this jumping up and down and screaming.
Homosexuality has been taboo for the last few centuries in western culture. Some things take time to change. You cannot be surprised if centuries of social inertia take longer than than a generation or two to turn around.
Here is an idea: try winning people over to your side with NICENESS! Radical thought, I know.
Hmm. I had no idea that California was such a conservative state. Funny.
So, apparently you must be in the habit of blindly voting for whichever side spends the most money without actually understanding the issues involved, right?
Proposition 8 passed with 52.24% of the voters voting FOR it. Please define "unpopular." Perhaps it is just that the people against Prop 8 were a lot more vocal?
So does that mean that Toyota can sue Kia for making cars that look similar from a distance and that can be purchased in similar colors?
Yellow is not the only choice. Agilent seem to go with orange. But the color IS important. If you are an electrician working at somebody's house, when it is time to go, a bright yellow or orange box is much less likely to be set down and forgotten when it is time to pack up and leave.
Since the Democrats are so big on propping up social security, then why are they trying so hard to ban smoking, trans-fats and large sodas? It seems the more bad habits people get, the easier it is to make sure that social security is around for future generations.
I kid...