Ofcourse it would be cool, but. It could be too expensive to make computer like that after there was no new Amiga models in ten years.
Current AmigaOne, Amigaone Lite and Pegasos too, are meant to be new start for the current active Amigans. That's the main goal, to have something which can allow you to start again. The aim is not to do everything asap. it's more important to stop Amiga community going smaller.
So this new hardware needs to be powerful enough so that it is atractive enough for the current Amigans. Hardware needs to be cheap enough, because othervise it would be difficult to sell it. They don't have huge amunts of money which they can spend on hardware development.
In older AmigaOS versions (1.3 etc) there was one single file DEVS:mountlist which contained all information nesessary to mount devices. In newer AmigaOS, like 3.1, there is folder Devs:DosDrivers which contains many mount files, every device has it's own file. All devices in Devs:DosDrivers are mounted automatically when Amiga is booted, you don't need any mount command in S:startup-sequence. If you want to disable device you just drag it's icon from devs:DosDrivers to Storage:DosDrivers. Name of Harddisk partitions, like DH0:, is set in HDToolBox partitioningtool.
Check eg. http://www.ann.lu.
If you don't follow what happens in the Amiga community you can't really say what the situation is. There is still software and harware development. If they would not then there sure would not be any Amigaone lite, right ?
Yep here is again my Amiga hardware:
I do have Amiga like this: Amiga 1200T, Mediator PCI-busboard, Voodoo 3 3000 PCI, 10Mbit PCI NIC,
Hercules SmartTV PCI TV-card, Soundblaster 128 PCI, LG 52x24x52 IDE CDRW, 10GB IBM, 64MB Ram, CPU 68060 50Mhz, AmigaOS 3.9, Canon BJC-210.
Yep here is again my Amiga harwdare:
I do have Amiga like this: Amiga 1200T, Mediator PCI-busboard, Voodoo 3 3000 PCI, 10Mbit PCI NIC,
Hercules SmartTV PCI TV-card, Soundblaster 128 PCI, LG 52x24x52 IDE CDRW, 10GB IBM, 64MB Ram, AmigaOS 3.9, Canon BJC-210.
Do remember that when OS4 was demoed in Pianeta it wa not ready yet. graphics.library and Picasso96 RTG-graphicslayer was still in m68k code. Those were emulated under NON-JIT emulation and debug level was wery high.
So you can't really say anything about it how fast the OS4 is.
Do remember that when OS4 was demoed in Pianeta it wa not ready yet. graphics.library and Picasso96 RTG-graphicslayer was still in m68k code. Those were emulated under NON-JIT emulation and debug level was wery high. So you can't really say anything about it how fast the OS4 is.
The biggest problem in AROS is that it does not have software. AROS does not have m68k emulation, it can't run PPC software and there is just couple of AROS native tools. So AROS can't run, whitout recompilitaion, any of the current Amiga software, not new or old.
So what you really can do in AROS ?
(former hardcore Amiga fanatic)
Yes that tells it all. I don't understand those people who DID USE A500 about ten years ago, then they come to say that they know everything and that they know that Amiga is dead and so on.
It is maybe dead for you, but it does not men it really was dead. It's just your opinion.
But i have noticed that it is pointless to try to explain anything to ex-A500 users who always think they know everything about Amigas situation.
Even if they have not touched it in ten years:P
If you look at MAC motherboard it looks more or less PC motherboard, if you lok at any other modern standard motherboard it looks more or less PC motherboard. That's why ALL computers use more or less same technigues these days.
I don't really understand you people why you expect that Amiga should not be allowed to use modern standard hardware ? Why should Amiga motherboard look like A1000 motherboard ?
I really don't get it why people think like that. MACs are not like original MAC's PC's are not like original IBM PC, so WHY SHOULD AMIGA BE LIKE A1000 ?
"I'm pretty sure that PPC is better than any x86 architecture but to me it just seems like a mac without MacOS, it's no Amiga."
I really can't understand your logic.
So you know that MAC's were first based on m68k series CPU ? MACs used m68k now those use PPC. Amiga used m68k now it use PPC. Were is the difference ? I really can't understand you.
Are you saying that MACs are not MAC's beacuse they are so differnt to original MAC computers ?
Or are you saying that current PC is not PC because it's hardware is not like orihinal IBM PC ?
So why AmigaOne could not be Amiga ? I think there is no good reason why it could not be.
"If it feels like an Amiga, if it runs newest AmigaOS, if it runs new and old Amiga software, then it is an Amiga."
A1200 is quite expandable:) My configuration.
A1200T (In fullsize tower) CPU=68060, Memory=64MB, harddrive=IBM 10GB, OS=AmigaOS 3.9, BUS-board=Mediator PCI with 4 PCI-slots, GFX-card=Voodoo 3 3000 PCI, NIC=10Mbit PCI NIC, soundcard=SoundBlaster 128 PCI etc etc. i'm goiung to buy TV-tuner and USB cards in near future too:) So A1200 is not so bad choise these days:)
Sorry, but YOUR desktop looks ugly when compared to my AmigaOS desktop:D And I don't mean any 640x480 AGA-screen:)
If you check those OS4 screenshots then you really can't say anthing about it how beautiful AmigaOS can be.
I have 1024x768x24bit AmigaOS desktop with many nice eyecandy-things you can install for the AmigaOS. I can post a link to my desktop when I have more time.
Yes I myself am one of those Amiga users who will work as a software developer in mainstream IT-business. I have to use PC at work etc. But I would be wery bored if I would not be an Amiga user. I think current mainstream is just boring, IT industry was much more interesting when there sttill was Commodore and many others. Now there is only one OS, only one hardware platform etc. i have to say it is not so interesting anymore.
I think we need platforms like Amiga, MAC and OS like AmigaOS, MacOS, BeOS, Linux etc. I think I would quit IT industry and start pitza-restaurant if only platform on earth would be PC+Windows:P
Amiga is a hobby for me, using it is still fun. i think Amiga is refreshlingluy different, using it is not as boring as using same PC+Windows at work, at school and at home:P
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Ofcourse it would be cool, but. It could be too expensive to make computer like that after there was no new Amiga models in ten years. Current AmigaOne, Amigaone Lite and Pegasos too, are meant to be new start for the current active Amigans. That's the main goal, to have something which can allow you to start again. The aim is not to do everything asap. it's more important to stop Amiga community going smaller. So this new hardware needs to be powerful enough so that it is atractive enough for the current Amigans. Hardware needs to be cheap enough, because othervise it would be difficult to sell it. They don't have huge amunts of money which they can spend on hardware development.
In older AmigaOS versions (1.3 etc) there was one single file DEVS:mountlist which contained all information nesessary to mount devices. In newer AmigaOS, like 3.1, there is folder Devs:DosDrivers which contains many mount files, every device has it's own file. All devices in Devs:DosDrivers are mounted automatically when Amiga is booted, you don't need any mount command in S:startup-sequence. If you want to disable device you just drag it's icon from devs:DosDrivers to Storage:DosDrivers. Name of Harddisk partitions, like DH0:, is set in HDToolBox partitioningtool.
Where is it said that Amigaone lite is teron board ? Original Amigone board was based on Teron boards thats sure, but AFAIK Amigaone lite is not.
in about ten years :) I currently use 1280x1024 32bit screenmode in my Amiga. And I use CDRW more than floppydrive :)
I have not even seen screenmode as that in many years :) I currently use 1280x1024 32bit screenmode in my Amiga. And I use CDRW more than floppydrive :)
Check eg. http://www.ann.lu. If you don't follow what happens in the Amiga community you can't really say what the situation is. There is still software and harware development. If they would not then there sure would not be any Amigaone lite, right ?
And CPU 68060 50Mhz
Yep here is again my Amiga hardware: I do have Amiga like this: Amiga 1200T, Mediator PCI-busboard, Voodoo 3 3000 PCI, 10Mbit PCI NIC, Hercules SmartTV PCI TV-card, Soundblaster 128 PCI, LG 52x24x52 IDE CDRW, 10GB IBM, 64MB Ram, CPU 68060 50Mhz, AmigaOS 3.9, Canon BJC-210.
Yep here is again my Amiga harwdare: I do have Amiga like this: Amiga 1200T, Mediator PCI-busboard, Voodoo 3 3000 PCI, 10Mbit PCI NIC, Hercules SmartTV PCI TV-card, Soundblaster 128 PCI, LG 52x24x52 IDE CDRW, 10GB IBM, 64MB Ram, AmigaOS 3.9, Canon BJC-210.
And ofcource CPU is 68060, which is MUCH faster than 68000 in A500 etc :)
I think you are lying because i know one betatester and your story does not match with his.
AmigaOS 4 is not Linux based. AmigaOS4 is PPC native new version of AmigaOS.
Do remember that when OS4 was demoed in Pianeta it wa not ready yet. graphics.library and Picasso96 RTG-graphicslayer was still in m68k code. Those were emulated under NON-JIT emulation and debug level was wery high. So you can't really say anything about it how fast the OS4 is.
Do remember that when OS4 was demoed in Pianeta it wa not ready yet. graphics.library and Picasso96 RTG-graphicslayer was still in m68k code. Those were emulated under NON-JIT emulation and debug level was wery high. So you can't really say anything about it how fast the OS4 is.
The biggest problem in AROS is that it does not have software. AROS does not have m68k emulation, it can't run PPC software and there is just couple of AROS native tools. So AROS can't run, whitout recompilitaion, any of the current Amiga software, not new or old. So what you really can do in AROS ?
(former hardcore Amiga fanatic) Yes that tells it all. I don't understand those people who DID USE A500 about ten years ago, then they come to say that they know everything and that they know that Amiga is dead and so on. It is maybe dead for you, but it does not men it really was dead. It's just your opinion. But i have noticed that it is pointless to try to explain anything to ex-A500 users who always think they know everything about Amigas situation. Even if they have not touched it in ten years :P
If you look at MAC motherboard it looks more or less PC motherboard, if you lok at any other modern standard motherboard it looks more or less PC motherboard. That's why ALL computers use more or less same technigues these days.
I don't really understand you people why you expect that Amiga should not be allowed to use modern standard hardware ? Why should Amiga motherboard look like A1000 motherboard ?
I really don't get it why people think like that. MACs are not like original MAC's PC's are not like original IBM PC, so WHY SHOULD AMIGA BE LIKE A1000 ?
"I'm pretty sure that PPC is better than any x86 architecture but to me it just seems like a mac without MacOS, it's no Amiga." I really can't understand your logic. So you know that MAC's were first based on m68k series CPU ? MACs used m68k now those use PPC. Amiga used m68k now it use PPC. Were is the difference ? I really can't understand you. Are you saying that MACs are not MAC's beacuse they are so differnt to original MAC computers ? Or are you saying that current PC is not PC because it's hardware is not like orihinal IBM PC ? So why AmigaOne could not be Amiga ? I think there is no good reason why it could not be. "If it feels like an Amiga, if it runs newest AmigaOS, if it runs new and old Amiga software, then it is an Amiga."
A1200 is quite expandable :) My configuration.
A1200T (In fullsize tower) CPU=68060, Memory=64MB, harddrive=IBM 10GB, OS=AmigaOS 3.9, BUS-board=Mediator PCI with 4 PCI-slots, GFX-card=Voodoo 3 3000 PCI, NIC=10Mbit PCI NIC, soundcard=SoundBlaster 128 PCI etc etc. i'm goiung to buy TV-tuner and USB cards in near future too :) So A1200 is not so bad choise these days :)
You don't need to use that harddrive :) You can put newest upto 2TB IDE and SCSI hardrives to your A1200 you know.
Sorry, but YOUR desktop looks ugly when compared to my AmigaOS desktop :D And I don't mean any 640x480 AGA-screen :)
If you check those OS4 screenshots then you really can't say anthing about it how beautiful AmigaOS can be.
I have 1024x768x24bit AmigaOS desktop with many nice eyecandy-things you can install for the AmigaOS. I can post a link to my desktop when I have more time.
Yes I myself am one of those Amiga users who will work as a software developer in mainstream IT-business. I have to use PC at work etc. But I would be wery bored if I would not be an Amiga user. I think current mainstream is just boring, IT industry was much more interesting when there sttill was Commodore and many others. Now there is only one OS, only one hardware platform etc. i have to say it is not so interesting anymore. I think we need platforms like Amiga, MAC and OS like AmigaOS, MacOS, BeOS, Linux etc. I think I would quit IT industry and start pitza-restaurant if only platform on earth would be PC+Windows :P
Amiga is a hobby for me, using it is still fun. i think Amiga is refreshlingluy different, using it is not as boring as using same PC+Windows at work, at school and at home :P
No :) OS4 will not work with 680x0 Amigas. It will work if you have PPC accelerator in your Classic Amiga though.
What drugs are you using ? :) Do you know what is an Amiga ? I don't think so because you are talking bullshit :)
Then those guys are stupid or wery young :) Amiga did and still does not have textmode. All text is printed to screen as a bitmap.