Windows 95 or Windows 98? And you're evaluating systems almost 20 years later by your limited experience with Sony computers on that?
Seriously, quit trolling.
Zero driver support? What were you running, BeOS?
As I said, if they're not for you, that's cool. If you think HPs are better quality than Sony, just buy HPs. I'm stating what my own experience is without saying things like "there are a million reasons not to buy Sony". Yes, let's all right the circlejerk train and hate Sony.
I've owned Vaios for years, from Z-series to S-series. I never buy entry-range models. They've all had exceptional build quality, zero problems and amazing display panels. Your mileage may vary, but I've never, ever heard Vaios described as "like shit". Their high-end models are considered among the best laptops you can buy, and priced as such.
If they're not good enough for you, just buy a Mac.
I bought a 1900x1200 15inch Vaio with an i7 and a 6 series ATI hybrid card and upgraded it to 8Gb RAM and a 7200rpm hybrid 750GB drive. Excellent construction quality, the screen is simply exceptional, and it looks damn amazing in my opinion. The screen panel is semi-flexible plastic (salesperson says it's to absorb minor shocks, whatever), and the main body is made of magnesium.
It's a very well-built laptop and runs Linux just fine. It cost me 1500eur, so it's by no means cheap.
Right.
Fedora 16 (and 17 so far) was a bug in iwlwifi where 801.11n connections drop down to 1Mbit. There is no solution other than deactivate 801.11n and hope that solves it for you, and that seems to be the accepted solution so far. Other distros don't have this problem, but Fedora does, and I'd like to know how it's a keyboard-chair interface problem.
And I'm not even going to go into the whole graphics drivers thing. Unless you run Ubuntu, getting the binary drivers to work means, without any exception, chasing documentation that may or may not be out of date, that may or may not require you to add a couple of repositories, or may or may not require you to compile a kernel module and parse the errors (again, fglrx on Fedora fails and you need to edit the kernel headers to have it compile at all).
I've used Linux for a damn long time, and I've gotten to accept things like that, but saying everything works out of the box with "Linux" (ie every distro)? Please, that's just plain wrong. It may work fine for your own usage scenario, I may be perfectly fine with doing what I listed above but "EVERYTHING works out of the box"? Err no. It really does not unless you're lucky, or you're running Ubuntu.
What are you talking about? I have an N9 right here and I love it. The OS is responsive, the messaging is well-integrated and damn fast, it is the PERFECT phone os and trust me I've seen them all!
I have no idea where this "half broken" comes from unless you care about shit like videocalls or, I don't know, flash on the default browser.
I LOVE the N9 like I've never loved a gadget in my life. I hate Elop with a passion for killing the greatest phone OS ever produced, and for making sure few people will experience something like that.
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Meego is also Debian based. Kind of makes your argument void I guess.
Cool. Not for you, no big deal. Just don't use it.
For people who use 10-20 apps (and errr... know what they're called), it's kind of a good design. I like it, so I use it.
I think everyone can judge the validity of your analysis, as well as your sanity by your saying that Nokia's last sale in "your market" happened 5-6 years ago. I mean, hell, E71 STILL sells and it still is a damn awesome phone!
I am willing to bet a great deal of money that you have NEVER used an N9. Saying it's sluggish can only ever come from someone who's only seen the specs, rather than use the phone.
Your other vague comments "it's incomplete in many places" are equally useless.
It's outselling Nokia's WP7 offerings.
I bought a N9 a week ago. Consciously and at full price (500+ euros). I could have bought ANYTHING at that price but I bought the N9. It is the most beautiful and elegant piece of hardware out there, running an OS that does everything I want, extremely well. Messaging is integrated, EVERYTHING from sms to msn is handled the same way. Making phonecalls through mobile carrier, SIP and Skype is equally well handled.
Will it have new software a year or two down the line? Nope, but I don't care. I own an amazing phone and one that is now part of mobile phone history. The last truly great Nokia Smartphone, on a long line of amazing Nokia products.
I honestly don't get it. I work on a 24'' 1900x1200 monitor, my laptop is a 15 inch 1080p and I have zero problems with Unity.
I sincerely doubt that people who are so critical of Unity have given time to get used to its quirks, but to each their own. Linux is Linux, we can each have a different WM and all be happy.
I don't understand the hate. It's actually a very usable, very beautiful WM. I didn't use it before 12.04, but on the current Ubuntu it's easily the best desktop experience I've ever had on Linux.
Sound was produced by the Z80 CPU on the Spectrum. That meant that you could not have a soundtrack in games because the processor would have to dedicate 100% of a given cycle to playing a sound. You could have a beep or two as soundeffects, but no soundtrack to speak of, unless the game was either very basic, or the programmer was very, very talented.
For the life of me, I cannot think of another soundtrack except Manic Miner.
Also, I had a ZX. Games on the C64 were much, much better looking than on the Spectrum. there was no comparison. The Spectrum had a near-fatal flow: you could not have a 8x8 square with more than two colours. So that meant that most games were two-coloured affairs - one colour for the background, another for the sprite, and even then you could have the colour clashing that made Spectrum gaming unique. Whatever the Spectrum's faults, this in my opinion was the biggest by far and since it was a hardware limitation, it meant that games simply could never be as nice looking as the competition.
Yes, the P990 was really not good enough. I remember being disappointed by it, and ultimately not buying it. The P800 though was simply amazing for the time.
I strongly disagree. I had a P800 and a P910 later on. They were BY FAR the best phones I've ever owned, considering the expectations of technology at the time. They had working email on a huge screen, an amazing input system (and I'm talking Graffiti here, it was truly amazing and I really miss it), they looked great and the battery lasted for ages. Why Ericsson gave up on UIQ I'll never know, but I'm sure it was the wrong decision. Whatever alternative plan they had, it didn't work out.
Going a bit off topic here but, in my opinion, Nokia's Symbian S60 was also a great OS for people wanting connectivity on the go. Thing is, people didn't know they wanted to be connected until iPhones and, to a much lesser extent, Blackberries. I have great love for e-series Nokias of 3-5 years ago, and I'm sad to see them disappear. Build quality, form factor, yes even software, were excellent for what they were supposed to be.
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I don't think you really understand what "stable" means.
Windows 95 or Windows 98? And you're evaluating systems almost 20 years later by your limited experience with Sony computers on that? Seriously, quit trolling.
Zero driver support? What were you running, BeOS? As I said, if they're not for you, that's cool. If you think HPs are better quality than Sony, just buy HPs. I'm stating what my own experience is without saying things like "there are a million reasons not to buy Sony". Yes, let's all right the circlejerk train and hate Sony.
I've owned Vaios for years, from Z-series to S-series. I never buy entry-range models. They've all had exceptional build quality, zero problems and amazing display panels. Your mileage may vary, but I've never, ever heard Vaios described as "like shit". Their high-end models are considered among the best laptops you can buy, and priced as such. If they're not good enough for you, just buy a Mac.
Was the Dell running Windows XP?
I bought a 1900x1200 15inch Vaio with an i7 and a 6 series ATI hybrid card and upgraded it to 8Gb RAM and a 7200rpm hybrid 750GB drive. Excellent construction quality, the screen is simply exceptional, and it looks damn amazing in my opinion. The screen panel is semi-flexible plastic (salesperson says it's to absorb minor shocks, whatever), and the main body is made of magnesium. It's a very well-built laptop and runs Linux just fine. It cost me 1500eur, so it's by no means cheap.
Right. Fedora 16 (and 17 so far) was a bug in iwlwifi where 801.11n connections drop down to 1Mbit. There is no solution other than deactivate 801.11n and hope that solves it for you, and that seems to be the accepted solution so far. Other distros don't have this problem, but Fedora does, and I'd like to know how it's a keyboard-chair interface problem. And I'm not even going to go into the whole graphics drivers thing. Unless you run Ubuntu, getting the binary drivers to work means, without any exception, chasing documentation that may or may not be out of date, that may or may not require you to add a couple of repositories, or may or may not require you to compile a kernel module and parse the errors (again, fglrx on Fedora fails and you need to edit the kernel headers to have it compile at all). I've used Linux for a damn long time, and I've gotten to accept things like that, but saying everything works out of the box with "Linux" (ie every distro)? Please, that's just plain wrong. It may work fine for your own usage scenario, I may be perfectly fine with doing what I listed above but "EVERYTHING works out of the box"? Err no. It really does not unless you're lucky, or you're running Ubuntu.
What are you talking about? I have an N9 right here and I love it. The OS is responsive, the messaging is well-integrated and damn fast, it is the PERFECT phone os and trust me I've seen them all! I have no idea where this "half broken" comes from unless you care about shit like videocalls or, I don't know, flash on the default browser. I LOVE the N9 like I've never loved a gadget in my life. I hate Elop with a passion for killing the greatest phone OS ever produced, and for making sure few people will experience something like that.
Meego is also Debian based. Kind of makes your argument void I guess.
Cool. Not for you, no big deal. Just don't use it. For people who use 10-20 apps (and errr... know what they're called), it's kind of a good design. I like it, so I use it.
I think everyone can judge the validity of your analysis, as well as your sanity by your saying that Nokia's last sale in "your market" happened 5-6 years ago. I mean, hell, E71 STILL sells and it still is a damn awesome phone!
I am willing to bet a great deal of money that you have NEVER used an N9. Saying it's sluggish can only ever come from someone who's only seen the specs, rather than use the phone. Your other vague comments "it's incomplete in many places" are equally useless.
Nokia negotiated the right to change any part of the WP OS.
This is untrue.
It's outselling Nokia's WP7 offerings. I bought a N9 a week ago. Consciously and at full price (500+ euros). I could have bought ANYTHING at that price but I bought the N9. It is the most beautiful and elegant piece of hardware out there, running an OS that does everything I want, extremely well. Messaging is integrated, EVERYTHING from sms to msn is handled the same way. Making phonecalls through mobile carrier, SIP and Skype is equally well handled. Will it have new software a year or two down the line? Nope, but I don't care. I own an amazing phone and one that is now part of mobile phone history. The last truly great Nokia Smartphone, on a long line of amazing Nokia products.
Yes, you're right, never thought of that.
I honestly don't get it. I work on a 24'' 1900x1200 monitor, my laptop is a 15 inch 1080p and I have zero problems with Unity. I sincerely doubt that people who are so critical of Unity have given time to get used to its quirks, but to each their own. Linux is Linux, we can each have a different WM and all be happy.
What search engine are you using man, Altavista?
Slashdotters applaud Microsoft for something? You must be new here.
I don't understand the hate. It's actually a very usable, very beautiful WM. I didn't use it before 12.04, but on the current Ubuntu it's easily the best desktop experience I've ever had on Linux.
Sound was produced by the Z80 CPU on the Spectrum. That meant that you could not have a soundtrack in games because the processor would have to dedicate 100% of a given cycle to playing a sound. You could have a beep or two as soundeffects, but no soundtrack to speak of, unless the game was either very basic, or the programmer was very, very talented. For the life of me, I cannot think of another soundtrack except Manic Miner. Also, I had a ZX. Games on the C64 were much, much better looking than on the Spectrum. there was no comparison. The Spectrum had a near-fatal flow: you could not have a 8x8 square with more than two colours. So that meant that most games were two-coloured affairs - one colour for the background, another for the sprite, and even then you could have the colour clashing that made Spectrum gaming unique. Whatever the Spectrum's faults, this in my opinion was the biggest by far and since it was a hardware limitation, it meant that games simply could never be as nice looking as the competition.
Yet.
Well on the other hand we clearly have Windows playing follow-up to Gnome in terms of usability! Score one for opensource!
I can pretty much guarantee you it'll be as locked down as possible.
Yes, the P990 was really not good enough. I remember being disappointed by it, and ultimately not buying it. The P800 though was simply amazing for the time.
I strongly disagree. I had a P800 and a P910 later on. They were BY FAR the best phones I've ever owned, considering the expectations of technology at the time. They had working email on a huge screen, an amazing input system (and I'm talking Graffiti here, it was truly amazing and I really miss it), they looked great and the battery lasted for ages. Why Ericsson gave up on UIQ I'll never know, but I'm sure it was the wrong decision. Whatever alternative plan they had, it didn't work out. Going a bit off topic here but, in my opinion, Nokia's Symbian S60 was also a great OS for people wanting connectivity on the go. Thing is, people didn't know they wanted to be connected until iPhones and, to a much lesser extent, Blackberries. I have great love for e-series Nokias of 3-5 years ago, and I'm sad to see them disappear. Build quality, form factor, yes even software, were excellent for what they were supposed to be.