The West has been doing it for at least 50yrs, the Chinese have only just started. The US has only just conceded this fact, their previous refusal to acknowledge pre-1990 emmissions has been a stumbling block to an international treaty since before Kyoto. However now China is trying to avoid direct physical targets and is instead arguing for something called "carbon intensity", basically it's a system whereby the higher the GDP the more you can pollute.
Pity you didn't follow your own advise. Here is an incomplete list of the factual faults with your "informative" post.
1. The emails were NOT stolen from RC they were stolen from a server at the University of East Anglia's Climate Research Unit (CRU).
2.RC's blog is hosted in the US by a company called "webfaction", it has nothing to do with the UAE. Last time I checked the UAE and the US were sperarated by a large body of water.
3.Here is the list of contributing scientists, you will note all but one of these internationally recognised scientists work for US institutions, none are employed at UAE.
4. Their love of open data sources is hardly "newfound", they put up the list as a reaction to morons who can't use google to find existing data.
"I just can't find the reference just now."
Yes just like you couldn't find existing data without someone compiling a list for you, suspiciously convienient if you ask me...
Indeed, it's called the Westminster system. That and the French system are to a large extent the roots of modern democracy.
One minor clarrification to your post is that you don't vote for a party, it only seems that way because the parties hand out "how to vote" leaflets and most people simply copy thier favorite party's recommendations.
Also the official head of state is the govenor general not the PM (at least here in Oz), the GG is a proxy for the Queen. The only real power they have is they can sack the government and call an election if the government of the day cannot resolve a double dissolution. This solves the situation where a budget cannot be passed (re: california).
Sounds similar to the political theater here in Australia. I predicted the internet filter thing would never happen, so far I have been correct. The reason a "trial" was conducted was to placate an independent senator, the bill itself was still born because "everyone" knew it would not pass the senate.
Politicians are not above making themselves look foolish to bring about the outcome they want (in our case an independent senators vote on other matters). The opposition did exactly the same thing when in government, basically the two major parties collude on this subject at the expense of the nut job independents who sometimes hold the balance of power.
Conroy (the telecoms minister) has never publiclly backed a compulsory filter, rather he has backed (and conducted) the trial. The independent senator in question has now STFU since the proposed list from the trial would have banned his own anti-abortion sponsers.
I communicate with Japanese developers via email, the english auto-translation of their project managers title is... "Director lord, software thing number four".
Personally I don't give a rat's arse what 'HR' calls me since it's probably much more polite than what I call them.
I haven't used Qt creator but I've heard good things. I used to be a big fan of Borland's Turbo IDE's back in the late 80's early 90's and I think that is where much of the initial inspiration for MSVC came from. It's the only example I can think of where MS beat a strong competitor the old fashioned way (ie: with a better product).
"And the fifty developers he already has hired aren't going to gainsay him and say "hey, boss man, perhaps it isn't a good idea to..."
They're not developers they're "yes men" and only a PHB would hire them, I've worked for some brilliant PM's over the last 20yrs, every one of them had the good sense to pretend he knew nothing about technical matters. I've also worked for some PHB's who didn't have to pretend, but only for as long as it took to find another contract.
"Using a duck typed object oriented and multi-abstracted environment to create something low level is as wrong..."
Be honest, have you ever tried to write, complie and debug x86 assembly with the MSVC IDE? - If so what is it that you found difficult/wrong about it?
A decade ago when I was employed at Big Blue it's then CEO Lou Gerstner said "All code has been written, it just needs to be managed". We all laughed so hard it hurt, however the way things are going Lou may get to have the last laugh after all.
I've been making a good living from MSVC since v1.5 arrived on win3.1. My current place of employment uses it to write a single code base that is later compiled in 32/64 bit versions for Win, Linux, Solaris, HPUX and Aix. IMHO MSVC's edit, search and (win) debug features are second to none. Not only that but as the GP implies, creating a large project that builds multiple sub-projects is a snap when compared to writing make files. Some of our build scripts create dozens of binaries, the MSVC command to kick it all off is a single line in a batch file.
In other words tools do not write "tight code", the programmer does. For example, MSVC is often accused of creating binary bloat. However the IDE does not force the programmer to link in the default libs, ignorance and/or sloth is responsible for that.
"The fact Goldman Sachs is the major architect behind carbon trading"
Citation please.
The waffle about plants can be summed up by this infamous piece of propoganda from the coal industry.
"buy gold now"
Sorry but you missed that boat, it sailed about 5yrs ago when the "Bush doctrine" threw geopolitical stability into doubt. Currently gold is not rising, rather the US dollar is sinking. Buying it only makes sense if you own US dollars.
"uses a model that's not even based on human behaviour"
The laws of physics do not depend on human behaviour. But I agree, I don't see how the heat model gives us any insight into the tradgedy of the commons, others have done a much better job in that department.
"in the end it's a guy doing research outside of his field."
Yes but he deserves credit for "doing research" properly. Unlike the vast majority of psuedo-skeptical climate bloggers and think-tanks this guy has submitted his ideas to peer-review. Is there a better way to get into a new field?
Conservative have also been arguing there is no problem.
This article about the CSU hack "fires a polar bear of truth between the eyes of hysteria and communism".
"How is this legitimatly part of a "free trade" agreement?"
The Aussie sugar growers would agree, they have still not stopped screaming about the government subsides given to corn syrup in the US. However it IS legitimate because the two (right-wing) governments signed it. It could have been worse, this is FTA lite when compared to the IP provisions in the original draft. That version would have seen an end to our prescription benifits scheme that has been operating smoothly since the 50's and ensures no Aussie family ever spends more than (IIRC) $1200/yr for prescribed medicine. Basically it would have banned generic drugs and Aussie taxpayers would now be getting gouged as badly as US patients.
"one business being able force another business to do something which increases the latter's costs"
Happens all the time, it's called "due diligence" and is essential if the rules of the game are to be taken seriously. Wether passing the notices on to customers is due diligence is basically what this case is trying to determine.
Also I think you misinterpret the word "free", when applied to markets or trade it means "free to participate", the words "trade" and "market" refer to a set of rules (the game). Wether you are free NOT to participate in the game is an obvious question that will never be asked by politicians and pundits.
"It is not ISP's responsibility to monitor for such activity, but they should deal with copyright notices when they are send one."
They do deal with the notices, just not the way AFACT thinks they should, iiNet pass all infringment notices on to the WA police (who basically wipe their arse with them).
"Of course, IMO it should be courts decision."
Corporations often try and legislate through the courts. This is a test case of provisions in the AU-US free trade agreement, AFACT are attempting to establish a legal precedent to force ISP's to handle the notices the way AFACT wants them to. If our court agrees with AFACT's interpretation of the treaty then they will use that decision as a political wedge in other countries.
"But, I have yet to see the industrial setting that I experienced in the winter of 1978 in the North Atlantic..."
Early eighties, 60 foot commercial fishing boat in Bass straight Australia, skippered by a large red-bearded terrorist who habitually walked around in nothing but his underpants. Swell was taller than the mast and blocked out the radar when the boat was in a trough, engine strained to climb the swell and raced when coming down the other side. We were fully loaded both below and above deck making the bow look like a surfacing submarine each time we came off one wave and onto the next. No ice on the rigging to contend with but the tidal rips, shallow water and abundance rocks balances that out. - Scary as hell but a great experience.
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The West has been doing it for at least 50yrs, the Chinese have only just started. The US has only just conceded this fact, their previous refusal to acknowledge pre-1990 emmissions has been a stumbling block to an international treaty since before Kyoto. However now China is trying to avoid direct physical targets and is instead arguing for something called "carbon intensity", basically it's a system whereby the higher the GDP the more you can pollute.
And sometimes (as in this case) it means "obvious bullshit".
"It was quite informative for me."
That's just sad, see my reply to the GP's disinformation.
"Read it yourself"
Pity you didn't follow your own advise. Here is an incomplete list of the factual faults with your "informative" post.
1. The emails were NOT stolen from RC they were stolen from a server at the University of East Anglia's Climate Research Unit (CRU).
2.RC's blog is hosted in the US by a company called "webfaction", it has nothing to do with the UAE. Last time I checked the UAE and the US were sperarated by a large body of water.
3.Here is the list of contributing scientists, you will note all but one of these internationally recognised scientists work for US institutions, none are employed at UAE.
4. Their love of open data sources is hardly "newfound", they put up the list as a reaction to morons who can't use google to find existing data.
"I just can't find the reference just now."
Yes just like you couldn't find existing data without someone compiling a list for you, suspiciously convienient if you ask me...
Hippie is a dirty word in the US, apparently there was way too much democracy in the late 60's and it was all their fault!
Daily mash article.
"This is actually quite common in many places"
Indeed, it's called the Westminster system. That and the French system are to a large extent the roots of modern democracy.
One minor clarrification to your post is that you don't vote for a party, it only seems that way because the parties hand out "how to vote" leaflets and most people simply copy thier favorite party's recommendations.
Also the official head of state is the govenor general not the PM (at least here in Oz), the GG is a proxy for the Queen. The only real power they have is they can sack the government and call an election if the government of the day cannot resolve a double dissolution. This solves the situation where a budget cannot be passed (re: california).
Sounds similar to the political theater here in Australia. I predicted the internet filter thing would never happen, so far I have been correct. The reason a "trial" was conducted was to placate an independent senator, the bill itself was still born because "everyone" knew it would not pass the senate.
Politicians are not above making themselves look foolish to bring about the outcome they want (in our case an independent senators vote on other matters). The opposition did exactly the same thing when in government, basically the two major parties collude on this subject at the expense of the nut job independents who sometimes hold the balance of power.
Conroy (the telecoms minister) has never publiclly backed a compulsory filter, rather he has backed (and conducted) the trial. The independent senator in question has now STFU since the proposed list from the trial would have banned his own anti-abortion sponsers.
I communicate with Japanese developers via email, the english auto-translation of their project managers title is... "Director lord, software thing number four".
Personally I don't give a rat's arse what 'HR' calls me since it's probably much more polite than what I call them.
I haven't used Qt creator but I've heard good things. I used to be a big fan of Borland's Turbo IDE's back in the late 80's early 90's and I think that is where much of the initial inspiration for MSVC came from. It's the only example I can think of where MS beat a strong competitor the old fashioned way (ie: with a better product).
Hint: BadAnalogyGuy is slashdot's answer to the onion.
"And the fifty developers he already has hired aren't going to gainsay him and say "hey, boss man, perhaps it isn't a good idea to..."
They're not developers they're "yes men" and only a PHB would hire them, I've worked for some brilliant PM's over the last 20yrs, every one of them had the good sense to pretend he knew nothing about technical matters. I've also worked for some PHB's who didn't have to pretend, but only for as long as it took to find another contract.
"Using a duck typed object oriented and multi-abstracted environment to create something low level is as wrong..."
Be honest, have you ever tried to write, complie and debug x86 assembly with the MSVC IDE? - If so what is it that you found difficult/wrong about it?
A decade ago when I was employed at Big Blue it's then CEO Lou Gerstner said "All code has been written, it just needs to be managed". We all laughed so hard it hurt, however the way things are going Lou may get to have the last laugh after all.
I've been making a good living from MSVC since v1.5 arrived on win3.1. My current place of employment uses it to write a single code base that is later compiled in 32/64 bit versions for Win, Linux, Solaris, HPUX and Aix. IMHO MSVC's edit, search and (win) debug features are second to none. Not only that but as the GP implies, creating a large project that builds multiple sub-projects is a snap when compared to writing make files. Some of our build scripts create dozens of binaries, the MSVC command to kick it all off is a single line in a batch file.
In other words tools do not write "tight code", the programmer does. For example, MSVC is often accused of creating binary bloat. However the IDE does not force the programmer to link in the default libs, ignorance and/or sloth is responsible for that.
The score on my post has been bouncing around like P. Anderson's breasts. The linked article is parody, learn to laugh at yourselves motherfucker's!
"The fact Goldman Sachs is the major architect behind carbon trading"
Citation please.
The waffle about plants can be summed up by this infamous piece of propoganda from the coal industry.
"buy gold now"
Sorry but you missed that boat, it sailed about 5yrs ago when the "Bush doctrine" threw geopolitical stability into doubt. Currently gold is not rising, rather the US dollar is sinking. Buying it only makes sense if you own US dollars.
"uses a model that's not even based on human behaviour"
The laws of physics do not depend on human behaviour. But I agree, I don't see how the heat model gives us any insight into the tradgedy of the commons, others have done a much better job in that department.
"in the end it's a guy doing research outside of his field."
Yes but he deserves credit for "doing research" properly. Unlike the vast majority of psuedo-skeptical climate bloggers and think-tanks this guy has submitted his ideas to peer-review. Is there a better way to get into a new field?
Disclaimer: IANAE
Yeah, right. 10,000 years ago - give or take - New York City was under the Arctic ice cap.
Remarkably there are exactly the same number of people living under the Artic ice cap today as there was 10ky ago.
Conservative have also been arguing there is no problem. This article about the CSU hack "fires a polar bear of truth between the eyes of hysteria and communism".
"How is this legitimatly part of a "free trade" agreement?"
The Aussie sugar growers would agree, they have still not stopped screaming about the government subsides given to corn syrup in the US. However it IS legitimate because the two (right-wing) governments signed it. It could have been worse, this is FTA lite when compared to the IP provisions in the original draft. That version would have seen an end to our prescription benifits scheme that has been operating smoothly since the 50's and ensures no Aussie family ever spends more than (IIRC) $1200/yr for prescribed medicine. Basically it would have banned generic drugs and Aussie taxpayers would now be getting gouged as badly as US patients.
"one business being able force another business to do something which increases the latter's costs"
Happens all the time, it's called "due diligence" and is essential if the rules of the game are to be taken seriously. Wether passing the notices on to customers is due diligence is basically what this case is trying to determine.
Also I think you misinterpret the word "free", when applied to markets or trade it means "free to participate", the words "trade" and "market" refer to a set of rules (the game). Wether you are free NOT to participate in the game is an obvious question that will never be asked by politicians and pundits.
"It is not ISP's responsibility to monitor for such activity, but they should deal with copyright notices when they are send one."
They do deal with the notices, just not the way AFACT thinks they should, iiNet pass all infringment notices on to the WA police (who basically wipe their arse with them).
"Of course, IMO it should be courts decision."
Corporations often try and legislate through the courts. This is a test case of provisions in the AU-US free trade agreement, AFACT are attempting to establish a legal precedent to force ISP's to handle the notices the way AFACT wants them to. If our court agrees with AFACT's interpretation of the treaty then they will use that decision as a political wedge in other countries.
I don't understand your problem, are they holding a gun to your head?
"And, the way you paint it, it appears much less "bleak" (assuming we all wish for FTL...) than it actually is"
That's because I'm using a "gods eye" view.
"But, I have yet to see the industrial setting that I experienced in the winter of 1978 in the North Atlantic..."
Early eighties, 60 foot commercial fishing boat in Bass straight Australia, skippered by a large red-bearded terrorist who habitually walked around in nothing but his underpants. Swell was taller than the mast and blocked out the radar when the boat was in a trough, engine strained to climb the swell and raced when coming down the other side. We were fully loaded both below and above deck making the bow look like a surfacing submarine each time we came off one wave and onto the next. No ice on the rigging to contend with but the tidal rips, shallow water and abundance rocks balances that out. - Scary as hell but a great experience.
In other words our new vacum overlords are 'armless.