CSIRO has maintained for well over a decade that wind alone could power Australia. Pickens interest in wind in the US would seem to indicate oil people are keen to become energy people.
2. They are maintaining their position that they can't keep building renewable infrastructure forever. They, along with many other multi-nationals have asked for and do need certainty about what constitutes a ton of GHG, how many tons are available, and how they can go about buying and selling it.
Well said and it implies the trial was maybe not a complete waste. Think how much funnier it is now the pet senator of one of those groups, having bartered his senate chips for mandatory blacklists, is forced into the position of voting on a blacklist that has the nasty side effect of banning his most ardent supporters....oppps....mind your step on the way out senator...
When I was in HS science teachers took inspiration for demonstrations from this guy. Notice he has a habit of leaving some questions hanging. Also notice he is not the least bit perturbed when his demonstrations don't work. Watch a few clips and pick (think of) some questions, use them to teach your students how to think like a scientist.
If you can teach a kid the skill of skeptical thinking then you have taught them science, the rest is research and explosions.
Speaking of earthquakes, we had a small tremor a week or so ago here in Melbourne, Australia. We just had another one a short while ago. I'm sure there are people on here who live where they get earth tremors all the time but it's unusual to have two in a short space of time down here.
Yes, but do you have any quote from Conroy or KRuddy saying they are personally in favor of a mandatory filter, 'cause if you do it will poke a nasty hole in my "yes minister" theory...
Here's a simpler way to look at it...
Two gorrilas are sharing a bannana when a spider monkey starts to irritate them by bouncing around the trees overhead jabbering about how they share the bannana. The monkey of course hopes to start trouble and maybe grab the bannana when they are busy fighting. Sure enough the gorillas start arguing and the bannana is getting bounced around as they bang their chests and roar at each other. The spider monkey sees his chance and positions himself between the two gorillas ready to catch the bannana. What happens to the monkey? - It varies but the gorillas normally end up continuing to share the bannana in relative harmony.
In this particular case the gorillas have put the monkey in the position of voting on the legislation he wanted. His options are: Vote against the legislation that he bargained his senate chips for, or vote for blacklisting his own supporters. And just to twist the knife, his particular vote won't make any difference to the outcome.
And yeah, the more outrage letters the better, this kind of bullshit is a total fucking waste of time and money.
"I would be interested to see anything from Labor saying definitively that they intend to pass legislation to support this scheme."
So would I, I have looked and asked for it in several of these stories since about last June. Haven't seen any direct quotes supporting the policy only quotes supporting the trial itself. The anti-abortion theme in this story is directly aimed at Fielding and the "Family first" party who have an anti-abortion platform. - I know, I'm shocked too....shocked I tell you!
I agree you have summarised the politics well. However this doesn't mean Labor are immune to the back-handed machevalian bullshit that Liberals did so poorly (I say poorly because they got caught doing it time and again). Labor is playing the same "game" with Fielding as Howard did when he "wanted" to implement mandatory filters (that his party are now blocking in opposition). There were similar circumstances for Howard at the time (ie: a censorship nut holding a deciding vote on more important legislation). Here let me spell it out.
Labour have a full majority in the house that the Lib's can't block, (that's what makes them the government of the day). However they need the support of the all the Green's and the two independents (ie a coalition) to pass legislation through the senate that the Lib's cannot block. The Lib's are in the same position but they only have to find one senator to join their coalition if they want to block the legislation.
Xenophon[sic] and Fielding (the two independents) both wanted a mandatory filter, (Xenophon has an anti-gambling platform). Labor set up a "trial" to keep them onside for as long as possible. Xenophon to his credit has seen the glaring human rights error in his plan to ban offshore gambling sites, Fielding has nowhere to go his vote is no longer of much value since the major reform is out of the way ready for the next election, Fielding has shut the fuck up, the Lib's, Labor and Greens are happy because they have collectively screwed "Mr 2%" for winning on their preference fuckery, Rudd is happy because Conroy is showing loyalty instead of challenging him in the back rooms like Costello did with Howard,....get my theory.....it's a YES MINISTER episode if ever I saw one.
Oh and check out the nude pictures of Hanson, unfortunately it's only funny because it's happening to someone I don't like.
18-25yo males are the most likely group of drivers to have a serious accident due to speed, reading the comments here demonstrates the self-delusions they suffer from.
He's not being fined or risking anything until the legislation is passed which it hasn't, if the ISP folded on a "friendly" warning, it did so for a reason that we don't really know. However, the reason the anti-abortion angle? - is because my pet theory says all this is aimed at this guy.
Aussie here, it has always been my contention that Conroy was in charge of the project to drag it out and make sure it DIDN'T happen, I think they are about to sign the death certificate...
Relevent info in amoungst the links...
"The Greens and Opposition also oppose the scheme, meaning any legislation to implement it will be blocked. The Opposition has obtained legal advice that "legislation of some sort will almost certainly be required", but others have said it may be possible to implement the scheme without legislation. Speaking at a telecommunications conference last week, Senator Conroy urged Australians to have faith in MPs to pass the right legislation."
I think what you are trying to say is "the search for how to make a the hypothosised material will give the tech a boost". If so, yeah, it just might.:)
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CSIRO has maintained for well over a decade that wind alone could power Australia. Pickens interest in wind in the US would seem to indicate oil people are keen to become energy people.
touche!
1. They shreaded Lord Oxburgh's employment record.
2. They are maintaining their position that they can't keep building renewable infrastructure forever. They, along with many other multi-nationals have asked for and do need certainty about what constitutes a ton of GHG, how many tons are available, and how they can go about buying and selling it.
Well said and it implies the trial was maybe not a complete waste. Think how much funnier it is now the pet senator of one of those groups, having bartered his senate chips for mandatory blacklists, is forced into the position of voting on a blacklist that has the nasty side effect of banning his most ardent supporters....oppps....mind your step on the way out senator...
Yes, use a machine print the ballots, use people to count them.
The word "kinds" is redundant, unless of course you can find an evil that is not a kind of evil...
When I was in HS science teachers took inspiration for demonstrations from this guy. Notice he has a habit of leaving some questions hanging. Also notice he is not the least bit perturbed when his demonstrations don't work. Watch a few clips and pick (think of) some questions, use them to teach your students how to think like a scientist.
If you can teach a kid the skill of skeptical thinking then you have taught them science, the rest is research and explosions.
Feilding is John Candy driving between the two trucks in "Planes, Trains and Automobiles".
Speaking of earthquakes, we had a small tremor a week or so ago here in Melbourne, Australia. We just had another one a short while ago. I'm sure there are people on here who live where they get earth tremors all the time but it's unusual to have two in a short space of time down here.
Ahhh, I never claimed people aren't out to get you, I'm claiming that paranoia won't help you find out.
Yes, but do you have any quote from Conroy or KRuddy saying they are personally in favor of a mandatory filter, 'cause if you do it will poke a nasty hole in my "yes minister" theory...
Here's a simpler way to look at it...
Two gorrilas are sharing a bannana when a spider monkey starts to irritate them by bouncing around the trees overhead jabbering about how they share the bannana. The monkey of course hopes to start trouble and maybe grab the bannana when they are busy fighting. Sure enough the gorillas start arguing and the bannana is getting bounced around as they bang their chests and roar at each other. The spider monkey sees his chance and positions himself between the two gorillas ready to catch the bannana. What happens to the monkey? - It varies but the gorillas normally end up continuing to share the bannana in relative harmony.
In this particular case the gorillas have put the monkey in the position of voting on the legislation he wanted. His options are: Vote against the legislation that he bargained his senate chips for, or vote for blacklisting his own supporters. And just to twist the knife, his particular vote won't make any difference to the outcome.
And yeah, the more outrage letters the better, this kind of bullshit is a total fucking waste of time and money.
"You have any data to back that up?"
Call your insurance company and ask for a quote.
"I would be interested to see anything from Labor saying definitively that they intend to pass legislation to support this scheme."
So would I, I have looked and asked for it in several of these stories since about last June. Haven't seen any direct quotes supporting the policy only quotes supporting the trial itself. The anti-abortion theme in this story is directly aimed at Fielding and the "Family first" party who have an anti-abortion platform. - I know, I'm shocked too....shocked I tell you!
I agree you have summarised the politics well. However this doesn't mean Labor are immune to the back-handed machevalian bullshit that Liberals did so poorly (I say poorly because they got caught doing it time and again). Labor is playing the same "game" with Fielding as Howard did when he "wanted" to implement mandatory filters (that his party are now blocking in opposition). There were similar circumstances for Howard at the time (ie: a censorship nut holding a deciding vote on more important legislation). Here let me spell it out.
Labour have a full majority in the house that the Lib's can't block, (that's what makes them the government of the day). However they need the support of the all the Green's and the two independents (ie a coalition) to pass legislation through the senate that the Lib's cannot block. The Lib's are in the same position but they only have to find one senator to join their coalition if they want to block the legislation.
Xenophon[sic] and Fielding (the two independents) both wanted a mandatory filter, (Xenophon has an anti-gambling platform). Labor set up a "trial" to keep them onside for as long as possible. Xenophon to his credit has seen the glaring human rights error in his plan to ban offshore gambling sites, Fielding has nowhere to go his vote is no longer of much value since the major reform is out of the way ready for the next election, Fielding has shut the fuck up, the Lib's, Labor and Greens are happy because they have collectively screwed "Mr 2%" for winning on their preference fuckery, Rudd is happy because Conroy is showing loyalty instead of challenging him in the back rooms like Costello did with Howard,....get my theory.....it's a YES MINISTER episode if ever I saw one.
Oh and check out the nude pictures of Hanson, unfortunately it's only funny because it's happening to someone I don't like.
To summarise your post: Don't try anything because people get the government they deserve.
Concerned mothers and overprotective fathers, have seen it all before.
...oh and warning was in response to an enquiry. The govt did not seek him out, he was seeking "clarification".
"The issue is that the maintainers of the blacklist are issuing fines for people linking to blacklisted sites."
An official warning about the POSSIBLE consequences of a POSSIBLE law is not a fine.
chanting "ignore reality, full steam ahead"
Indeed, but where are you going and who stoked your boiler?
"Healthy paranioa says that there are plenty to people that dissapear even in the United States of Australia."
Parinoa is not healthy, you should try skepticisim instead. eg: I am skeptical of things that you and I have no evidence for.
18-25yo males are the most likely group of drivers to have a serious accident due to speed, reading the comments here demonstrates the self-delusions they suffer from.
I presume that this is due to Australia using proportional representation?
Yes
I'm in the UK
Good you will recognise the Humprey Appleby infuence on my pet theory?
He's not being fined or risking anything until the legislation is passed which it hasn't, if the ISP folded on a "friendly" warning, it did so for a reason that we don't really know. However, the reason the anti-abortion angle? - is because my pet theory says all this is aimed at this guy.
The last political prisoner I saw in this country was David Hicks, maybe I'm not looking hard enough for total parinoia to set in?
Aussie here, it has always been my contention that Conroy was in charge of the project to drag it out and make sure it DIDN'T happen, I think they are about to sign the death certificate...
Relevent info in amoungst the links...
"The Greens and Opposition also oppose the scheme, meaning any legislation to implement it will be blocked. The Opposition has obtained legal advice that "legislation of some sort will almost certainly be required", but others have said it may be possible to implement the scheme without legislation. Speaking at a telecommunications conference last week, Senator Conroy urged Australians to have faith in MPs to pass the right legislation."
I think what you are trying to say is "the search for how to make a the hypothosised material will give the tech a boost". If so, yeah, it just might. :)
Next up - energy policy.