You said you were marketing coordinator, not customer service. Regardless what else you are, you are in marketing. (why am I bothering to try and argue with you given this fact is beyond me....)
As I mentioned in another post:
Just because you farm out a portion of your work to a (expensive) third party, does not mean that all your responsibility vanishes magically. TicketMonopoly was acting on your behalf - you can say what you like, but you will not change this fact.
TicketMonopoly is ENTITLED to charge fees for distributing YOUR tickets. However the CUSTOMER, who has had nothing to do with any of this, should not be made to pay for your inability to run a show.
I would say that you, Britney Spears and the rest of you should pay in this instance. (even though I personally feel that Britney fans deserve all they get) Why should the customer/fan/supporter be the one who gets to make no decisions and be the only one to get screwed?
Just because "it is the way it works" does not make it right. That is possibly the most insidious of all defences and completely falicious.
But feel free to believe whatever you like if it helps you sleep at night...
It does not matter which company keeps the money. Who cares??!
The fact is that the customer was right royally screwed over when YOU cancelled the show. Why the hell is the only person who has NOTHING to do with this have to pay for all of it???
Just because you use an (expensive) third party, does not mean you get to (morally) wash your hands of the whole thing. It is not someone else's problem, it is YOUR problem.
I beg to differ and you current don't actually have any theories or counter-evidence. (marketing-speak does not count)
If you run a show then YOU are responsible. It is very simple. If Ticketmonopoly wants to keep a service fee then YOU should pay for it. The poor customer has NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS. Why the hell are THEY paying?!?
By you I do not mean you personally. Obviously since you are one of the marketing drones, you are restricted to simply repeating the company line.
And no I will not hold while you put me through to customer service....
"My personal impression is that while perhaps a limited number of the farming operations Ive learned about may, in some regards, impose sweatshop conditions on their employees, many, perhaps most, dontespecially when local norms are taken into account."
He leads onto this from saying that working conditions in 3rd world countries are not like ours, then goes on to say that he heard about bosses who keep raising levels of work.
Sick leave whenever you want it in Indonesia...yeah right...
He admits that he KNOWS they exist and then says IN HIS OPINION that they are not the majority.
Why? because it makes him feel better? He polled a sample of them?
Or he met a few and they told him that?
Did you know that indonesian/malay workers in nike/puma factories SAID EXACTLY THE SAME THING when the inspectors come. Guess what happens if they whistle bow?
Chat log anyone??
Come on people, I thought slashdot was better than this...
My point really is that this is not slashdotworthy. I am not rating this article in competition to other articles on the net, only to slashdot articles.
I don't come here to read articles on conjecture and opinion...
What I meant, in my "short of time" reply, was that the quality of the research he has undergone is substandard, non-representative and quite obvioiusly biased by his own personal connections/experiences.
Anyone, such as myself, can be a researcher (or investigative jouirnalist) of something, but this person seems to fall far short of this particular role.
In other words: This article is little more than someone's annecdotal experiences. The same can be found on thousands, if not millions, of blogs.
Is this slashdotworthy?? I would have thought not.
I have the distinct feeling that this person has ended up on slashdot because the article has the appearance, to some, of having some sort of well-researched/authoritative viewpoint.
It quite obviously, even admitted to by you, is not.
He is NOT a proper researcher or journalist and almost ALL his "facts" are his own estimates of what goes on and a few annecdotes from people he met online.
I love his take on sweat shops. Seems if you live in a thrid world country than 18 hours a day. seven days a week is perfectly ok from his point of view. (hence buying their stuff is morally ok)
That is not "deciding stuff", that is "letting stuff happen". There is a VERY BIG difference between that and what the previous posters were talking about.
Obviously society influences the laws, the polys are members of society for a start, but it is far less than previous posters were pretending occurs.
Who decides what "the community" wants/is/thinks?? The government.
Or do you actually think pollers go from house to house showing people pictures of woman doing things with goats and asking them if they find that offensive???
You give someone a weapon and tell them "you may need this one day".
Some people will put the weapon in the closet, clean it once in a while, and carrying on with their lives. They will use it only when they really have to.
Others will go find something to shoot.
DMCA: The weapon of choice for more entertainment companies.
While it might seem you have a point here, it is not actually the same:
1) The Sega CD was an optinal add on rather than a whole new console.
2) Only if you actually wanted CDs did you need to upgrade. You could still do everything with cartridges as per normal - hence no need to upgrade for "normal sega" functionality.
3) There was not a simultaneously released (big player anyway) console that HAD the functionality already.
I am not rich enough to have a HDTV anyway. Poor me.:)
A poor player is gaining reaction time, but they are still in slow mo. They now have to deal with an attacker that can easily lead fire them because of this and worse, remove any chance of escape.
You talk as if dodging in slow mo is somehow "far superior" when the attacker can still move normal speed.
Perhaps you are thinking max payne or matrix? Because this is VERY unlike what happens there.
Ok, I think either you are getting the original concept from the article mixed up with this person's suggestion, or you are just incorrect. The original article is talking about very small bullet time segments fudged through server lag, the idea suggested by the poster is 10 second segments without any time delays.
If viewers inside the bubble see things outside the bubble as slow motion then this is ridiculous. Things outside the bubble are still happening at normal speed. So the guy inside is desparately trying to dodge the first 3 bullets, while the attackers are laughing and pumping in 100 more bullets he wont see for some time. (by then it will be too late) This would make this technique pointless.
I think you are (as the GP post did) mixing up what the avatar sees and the "realtime" that the players are in will be.
If I have got what you are suggesting correct, essentially all you have done to the poor player stupid enough to use this special bubble is put him into slow mo. The bullets close to him WILL be slow mo also, but the attackers attacking him will not, so there will be many times more bullets. Also the attackers will not have a hard time leading their fire when you move 1/10th the speed relative to them!?
The attack is still moving at normal speed and he can fire bullets in massive radius - certainly NOT all in a straight line.
Sure they slow down on entering the bubble, but since the person in the bubble is in slow mo he gets nailed anyway by lead/swarm fire.
I think you are visualising "the matrix" when in fact this is NOT what the reality of this concept would be. The person in slow mo is going to be at a disadvantage because the attacker can lace the air with lead while he is still dodging the first 3 bullets. Sure they will take 2-3 seconds to get to him, but since he will be moving slowly, it wont matter.
What you seem to be missing that if time slows down for 10 seconds, then what are the "attackers" doing for that 10 seconds outside the bubble??
Are they contiuing to fire? Are they prevented from doing so? etc.
You miss the fact that even though the slow-mo player is dodging slow-mo bullets, the attackers are not just waiting there for 10 seconds. (otherwise they are slow-mo'ed also)
Hence, as I stated, you fall into the two fudges to get around that and they both suck.
I am not explaining it properly because I have not the time to give this a proper treatment, but hopefully I make some sense.
Well you are correct as far as I can tell in what YOU say. However, how crap would it be if the LPBs that everyone used to complain of in CS are now given yet another boost?? Seems that your
However, this has little to do with the technique described here which was apparently suppose to be mutual based on the "loose" time that the server introduces to make up for general latency.
What you are talking about it the lag that the individual has, rather than the "fudge time" that the server introduces to hide the lag as much as possible.
It is possible that I am off base here...its all very confusing.
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Well at least they asked us this time before mining data for commercial purposes.
No one here actually thought this was an aid for gamers did they???
You said you were marketing coordinator, not customer service. Regardless what else you are, you are in marketing. (why am I bothering to try and argue with you given this fact is beyond me....)
As I mentioned in another post:
Just because you farm out a portion of your work to a (expensive) third party, does not mean that all your responsibility vanishes magically. TicketMonopoly was acting on your behalf - you can say what you like, but you will not change this fact.
TicketMonopoly is ENTITLED to charge fees for distributing YOUR tickets. However the CUSTOMER, who has had nothing to do with any of this, should not be made to pay for your inability to run a show.
I would say that you, Britney Spears and the rest of you should pay in this instance. (even though I personally feel that Britney fans deserve all they get)
Why should the customer/fan/supporter be the one who gets to make no decisions and be the only one to get screwed?
Just because "it is the way it works" does not make it right. That is possibly the most insidious of all defences and completely falicious.
But feel free to believe whatever you like if it helps you sleep at night...
It does not matter which company keeps the money. Who cares??!
The fact is that the customer was right royally screwed over when YOU cancelled the show. Why the hell is the only person who has NOTHING to do with this have to pay for all of it???
Just because you use an (expensive) third party, does not mean you get to (morally) wash your hands of the whole thing. It is not someone else's problem, it is YOUR problem.
I beg to differ and you current don't actually have any theories or counter-evidence. (marketing-speak does not count)
If you run a show then YOU are responsible. It is very simple.
If Ticketmonopoly wants to keep a service fee then YOU should pay for it. The poor customer has NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS. Why the hell are THEY paying?!?
By you I do not mean you personally. Obviously since you are one of the marketing drones, you are restricted to simply repeating the company line.
And no I will not hold while you put me through to customer service....
Maybe you should try reading the article:
"My personal impression is that while perhaps a limited number of the farming operations Ive learned about may, in some regards, impose sweatshop conditions on their employees, many, perhaps most, dontespecially when local norms are taken into account."
He leads onto this from saying that working conditions in 3rd world countries are not like ours, then goes on to say that he heard about bosses who keep raising levels of work.
Sick leave whenever you want it in Indonesia...yeah right...
He admits that he KNOWS they exist and then says IN HIS OPINION that they are not the majority.
Why? because it makes him feel better? He polled a sample of them?
Or he met a few and they told him that?
Did you know that indonesian/malay workers in nike/puma factories SAID EXACTLY THE SAME THING when the inspectors come. Guess what happens if they whistle bow?
Chat log anyone??
Come on people, I thought slashdot was better than this...
I totally agree with you.
My point really is that this is not slashdotworthy. I am not rating this article in competition to other articles on the net, only to slashdot articles.
I don't come here to read articles on conjecture and opinion...
lol.
Troll all you like. Karma is still excellent.
See you on the meta moderators side...
What I meant, in my "short of time" reply, was that the quality of the research he has undergone is substandard, non-representative and quite obvioiusly biased by his own personal connections/experiences.
Anyone, such as myself, can be a researcher (or investigative jouirnalist) of something, but this person seems to fall far short of this particular role.
In other words: This article is little more than someone's annecdotal experiences. The same can be found on thousands, if not millions, of blogs.
Is this slashdotworthy?? I would have thought not.
I have the distinct feeling that this person has ended up on slashdot because the article has the appearance, to some, of having some sort of well-researched/authoritative viewpoint.
It quite obviously, even admitted to by you, is not.
All of this is IMHO anyways...
I did actually.
He is NOT a proper researcher or journalist and almost ALL his "facts" are his own estimates of what goes on and a few annecdotes from people he met online.
Not exactly investigative journalism...
I love his take on sweat shops. Seems if you live in a thrid world country than 18 hours a day. seven days a week is perfectly ok from his point of view. (hence buying their stuff is morally ok)
And they are forced to eat hot gravel....
That is not "deciding stuff", that is "letting stuff happen". There is a VERY BIG difference between that and what the previous posters were talking about.
Obviously society influences the laws, the polys are members of society for a start, but it is far less than previous posters were pretending occurs.
non-conviction in this case would mean that the material is NOT OBSCENE!!
Since only conservative christian types seem to sue people or complain about this stuff, how does this help your case???
You really should try harder...
That is just moronic anonomous coward. The quality of your posts on this forum are numerous and always of low quality...
Grand juries DO NOT MAKE LAW. They decide whether existing laws have been broken.
Paper bag,...yeah good cliche...you are really on to it.
Yeah watever buddy.
Keep your head in the sand, it will make yourself feel better. Govt. makes the rules, you (most obviously) are forced to play by them.
Nice comeback. Using insults always makes you more right.
Juries decide whether laws are broken, not making the laws themselves.
And who makes those??
Wrong.
Juries decide if laws (explained to them by the judge) have been broken.
Who wrote those laws??
naive. plain and simple.
Who decides what "the community" wants/is/thinks?? The government.
Or do you actually think pollers go from house to house showing people pictures of woman doing things with goats and asking them if they find that offensive???
Honestly, your post was exceptionally naive.
Ahhhh, the good ol' DMC of A.
You can blame upper management for that.
You give someone a weapon and tell them "you may need this one day".
Some people will put the weapon in the closet, clean it once in a while, and carrying on with their lives. They will use it only when they really have to.
Others will go find something to shoot.
DMCA: The weapon of choice for more entertainment companies.
While it might seem you have a point here, it is not actually the same:
:)
1) The Sega CD was an optinal add on rather than a whole new console.
2) Only if you actually wanted CDs did you need to upgrade. You could still do everything with cartridges as per normal - hence no need to upgrade for "normal sega" functionality.
3) There was not a simultaneously released (big player anyway) console that HAD the functionality already.
I am not rich enough to have a HDTV anyway. Poor me.
A poor player is gaining reaction time, but they are still in slow mo. They now have to deal with an attacker that can easily lead fire them because of this and worse, remove any chance of escape. You talk as if dodging in slow mo is somehow "far superior" when the attacker can still move normal speed. Perhaps you are thinking max payne or matrix? Because this is VERY unlike what happens there.
Ok, I think either you are getting the original concept from the article mixed up with this person's suggestion, or you are just incorrect.
The original article is talking about very small bullet time segments fudged through server lag, the idea suggested by the poster is 10 second segments without any time delays.
If viewers inside the bubble see things outside the bubble as slow motion then this is ridiculous. Things outside the bubble are still happening at normal speed. So the guy inside is desparately trying to dodge the first 3 bullets, while the attackers are laughing and pumping in 100 more bullets he wont see for some time. (by then it will be too late)
This would make this technique pointless.
I think you are (as the GP post did) mixing up what the avatar sees and the "realtime" that the players are in will be.
If I have got what you are suggesting correct, essentially all you have done to the poor player stupid enough to use this special bubble is put him into slow mo.
The bullets close to him WILL be slow mo also, but the attackers attacking him will not, so there will be many times more bullets. Also the attackers will not have a hard time leading their fire when you move 1/10th the speed relative to them!?
Not at all.
:)
The attack is still moving at normal speed and he can fire bullets in massive radius - certainly NOT all in a straight line.
Sure they slow down on entering the bubble, but since the person in the bubble is in slow mo he gets nailed anyway by lead/swarm fire.
I think you are visualising "the matrix" when in fact this is NOT what the reality of this concept would be.
The person in slow mo is going to be at a disadvantage because the attacker can lace the air with lead while he is still dodging the first 3 bullets. Sure they will take 2-3 seconds to get to him, but since he will be moving slowly, it wont matter.
Perhaps we should just beg to differ??
So what you end up with is the attackers seeing a slow mo'ed player with their bullets slowing down as they enter the bubble.
This is ADVANTAGEOUS for the attackers!?
They now can fill the bubble with 10x the bullets they normally would and the slow moving player will have to deal with them all.
This does not actually help the player in the bubble.
The player in the bubble will also not be able to fight back very effectively because they are slow and their bullets will be slow.
So slow mo in this scenario is not exactly very useful, hence pointless.
I still maintain that my theory is correct.
What you seem to be missing that if time slows down for 10 seconds, then what are the "attackers" doing for that 10 seconds outside the bubble??
Are they contiuing to fire? Are they prevented from doing so? etc.
You miss the fact that even though the slow-mo player is dodging slow-mo bullets, the attackers are not just waiting there for 10 seconds. (otherwise they are slow-mo'ed also)
Hence, as I stated, you fall into the two fudges to get around that and they both suck.
I am not explaining it properly because I have not the time to give this a proper treatment, but hopefully I make some sense.
Well you are correct as far as I can tell in what YOU say.
However, how crap would it be if the LPBs that everyone used to complain of in CS are now given yet another boost?? Seems that your
However, this has little to do with the technique described here which was apparently suppose to be mutual based on the "loose" time that the server introduces to make up for general latency.
What you are talking about it the lag that the individual has, rather than the "fudge time" that the server introduces to hide the lag as much as possible.
It is possible that I am off base here...its all very confusing.