You didn't even understand what I'm talking about ! It's not about genetics it's about philosophy (you know the oldest science) ! You have to think before acting ! But, I see you won't understand my profound thought. Well it's a pity.
Ah yes, the fundamentalist charge, "you're trying to play god". This charge has been leveled at surgeons, doctors and scientists for centuries. Do you believe heart transplants are playing god? How about flu shots? As an aside, if we are created in god's image as many believe then isn't it our duty to play god?
I'm not including doctors, surgeons, etc. in the scientists group, they are more like engineers.
I'm neither talking about "playing" god, but about "becoming god", which means that it's not only for fun, but for real. Playing god is not the problem, we did before and will do in the future. It's afterwards, when the politicians, or people which doesn't understand a *shit* about it, decide on using that knowledge, then we have a problem !
What's a pity is that most people have a tremendously poor understanding of science and the scientific method. You have no idea if this research will be useful or not, yet you judge it to be a waste. Often a discovery by a researcher in one field is picked up on by a researcher in another field and the findings are used in ways never thought of before(this fact spawned a few books [roycecarlton.com] and a TV series [earthlink.net] by James Burke [smithsonia...ciates.org] which are well worth reading/watching). There is always value in scientific research because it advances our knowledge. More knowledge means we are better able to survive as a species.
Well, sorry about that but I'm not part of that "most people" your talking about, I'm a scientist too. Science is great, it's the use (abuse) of science which sucks ! (cf Einstein's theory and Hiroshima !).
I have some questions for those who freak out about the prospect of human reproductive cloning. What's wrong with human reproductive cloning? I always hear about the nebulous heavy ethical problems but the problems are never articulated or discussed. I do understand that 95% of the people in the US say they wouldn never use reproductive cloning. If that is so, then what do they have to fear from the 5% who would? It reminds me very much of the controversy surrounding in vitro fertilization. Most people were freaking out about "test tube babies!". Funny how reality is much less sensational than the fears of the uneducated masses. Human reproductive cloning can be a valuable, helpful procedure for some people, just as in vitro fertilization is.
What do we need cloning for ? To overpopulate the globe even more ! The thing is that there is so many more useful stuff to research for (preventing global warming, preventing petrol catastrophes, etc.), than for cloning, but cloning, that's cool, that's new, that's the hype of the third millenium, cloning hits the news ! Our discussion is the proof !
... is it real that there's this Microsoft advertising ? Always got his nose in it (our friend Bill), when it's someting weird !
just kidding.
This cloning stuff, well, it's a really tricky and complex stuff ! But it's always the same, through all history the human has tried to become god, so now it's hte turn of the scientists, they didn't get their try, yet ! It's a pitty, they sould use their brains and concentrate on more useful things, like finding methods to better preserve the nature and to the other way round, trying to control it.
We're not going to manage this cloning stuff, it's only accelerating our path to an even darker future.
It's the site of http://www.usaondca.com which was probably "hacked" (well meaning cracked of course) and redirected to http://internetcam.net/.
Always the same thing, the white ones are persuing the black ones.
Yeah in fact, you're true. But I think your conclusion (== Money) is little bit to fast. Changing a whole IT infrastructure from Windows to Linux is not simple, as any other migration, but ther can be a TCO reduction I think. Though it won't be fast, it's a long term saving and the visible money saving may come up only after a few years I think. When you realize that there isn't anymore licence upgrading.
Another important thing that I would like to add, is that you will need a lot human resources and knowledge, at least for the start.
Hope I could help and keep me up to date about the evolution, 'cause I'm also planning a similar migration.
Best Regards
NeoEinstein/*** Got the name, waiting for the brain ***/
The most trendy stuff to learn, is defintely Java (all of them, applets, servlets, EJB,...) and XML. Everything that as to do with Linux is also very "à la mode". Think this is already enough learning for a few decacdes, so have fun.
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You didn't even understand what I'm talking about ! It's not about genetics it's about philosophy (you know the oldest science) ! You have to think before acting ! But, I see you won't understand my profound thought. Well it's a pity.
... we, the Linux freaks, gonna be able to do all the nasty stuff, we are trying to avoid for years ! kidding It's a nice piece of soft !
... is it real that there's this Microsoft advertising ? Always got his nose in it (our friend Bill), when it's someting weird ! just kidding. This cloning stuff, well, it's a really tricky and complex stuff ! But it's always the same, through all history the human has tried to become god, so now it's hte turn of the scientists, they didn't get their try, yet ! It's a pitty, they sould use their brains and concentrate on more useful things, like finding methods to better preserve the nature and to the other way round, trying to control it. We're not going to manage this cloning stuff, it's only accelerating our path to an even darker future.
It's the site of http://www.usaondca.com which was probably "hacked" (well meaning cracked of course) and redirected to http://internetcam.net/. Always the same thing, the white ones are persuing the black ones.
... one will be occupied all the time giving and revoking permissions to send mail or phone.
Yeah in fact, you're true. But I think your conclusion (== Money) is little bit to fast.
/*** Got the name, waiting for the brain ***/
Changing a whole IT infrastructure from Windows to Linux is not simple, as any other migration, but ther can be a TCO reduction I think. Though it won't be fast, it's a long term saving and the visible money saving may come up only after a few years I think. When you realize that there isn't anymore licence upgrading.
Another important thing that I would like to add, is that you will need a lot human resources and knowledge, at least for the start.
Hope I could help and keep me up to date about the evolution, 'cause I'm also planning a similar migration.
Best Regards
NeoEinstein
The most trendy stuff to learn, is defintely Java (all of them, applets, servlets, EJB, ...) and XML.
Everything that as to do with Linux is also very "à la mode". Think this is already enough learning for a few decacdes, so have fun.