Rubber bats? You're so jaded. I declare you idiot-of-the-day. Stop off at the service desk on your way out to pick up your prizes; a solar powered flashlight and a DVD rewinder. Enjoy! You've earned them.
It's a 128MB card.
Oh well. Maybe I'll pop a fresh harddrive in there and load winderz 98se and the gfx and sound card drivers and try again just for giggles.
My score seems a bit low. These benchmarks are smoke and mirrors anyway. I don't really care b/c all I play is RTCW at 1152x864x32 with most options at high and get frame rates of 50 to 110+.
But that Proxycon test really hammers my graphics card. Pushes the framerates down to 5 fps. I guess I really need to read the 3Dmark documentation thoroughly. I may have missed something important.
blah...blah...blahhh. Am I suppose to assume that you have any better of a grip on the number of terrorist attacks or incidents that were prevented based on national security methods and sources? Well, I won't take your word because I don't know you from Adam. And if you think I take for granted the invaluable service that agencies such as NSA provide to our country you have missed the whole point of my message.
Don't patronize me by trying to make me feel like I have some personal intelligence detail watching 'my back' because I don't. Spy agencies exist to protect the interest of NATIONAL security. There actions protect ALL of us not just me and not just you so don't try to guilt trip me, chief. I know that the NSA spies. Hell, that's the only constant in this whole goddamn thread. It is no secret and common sense should tell you that the primary objective of a spy agency is to.....you guessed it, spy. I just think that the philosophy of 'these people are the good guys' is a bit naive.
And yes, I do believe there was a contingency to act on the 'wargames' (your characterization, not mine) if diplomacy failed between Cuba and the United States. So I guess we can agree to disagree on that one.
1. Isn't the NSA the worlds largest employer of mathmaticians. (They use to brag abou that on there web site.) I imagine Google has a lot of use for mathmaticians.
Not sure it's the world's largest but crytography (codemakers, codebreakers) would be NSA's main interest in mathematicians. I'm not sure they would be of much use at Google.
2. The NSA I imagine is a fairly picky employer. Not just for the background checks either.
Picky is an understatement.
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Should you Fear Google?
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"5. Google hires spooks"
I'm sure lots of companies hire ex-NSA engineers. Perhaps they hired him because he is a competent engineer? I hope you realise that this point makes you sound like someone with a paranoia disorder of some sort.
I agree completely. People love a good conspiracy. Problem is people let it take them over, [dramatic pause] way over the boundry of sensible thought and they find themselves suspecting them and they and those people of anything and everything.
The NSA hires thousands of people that may find themselves working in a lot of other industries. It's a government agency, not a cult. Employees don't necessarily need a top secret or even secret clearance to work at the NSA although it is commonplace that employees obtain them. There is a background check but it is unlikely an engineer would find himself analyzing signals intelligence. The NSA is very compartmentalized.
This type of toothless claim is just a tactic to try to manipulate your opinion. It has no merit and offers no proof that it is significant at all. The writer let's your mind do most of the work for him.
Funny you should mention that they are one of the good guys. In the sixties, the NSA developed a program whose objective was to create scenarios of terrorist events around the U.S (that's right, America) which could be traced back to the Communists and eventually directly to Fidel Castro. These events would lead to a declaration of war against Cuba and eventually its liberation.
That is how far the government was willing to go to get Castro.
When I say, terrorist events, I'm not talking about vandalizing a courthouse or cutting the break lines on a government vehicle. I mean driving a bus packed with explosives into a crowded elementary school or setting off explosives in the middle of a crowded public place or blowing up a bridge. Serious stuff. This project was eventually exposed by a congressional investigation and heads did roll.
These are two perfect examples why the NSA retains the authority to keep its secrets; it's none of your business that a spook (or ex-spook) works for Google and I can assume with certainty that you knew nothing of tax dollars being used to plan terrorist activities within the US in the sixties. Most people aren't responsible enough to use information such as this correctly. NSA's business is really none of our business. It's not that someone shouldn't be watching the watchers, because the long arm of congress is doing just that. But the business of NSA, taken out of context, can seem to be very sinister.
I'm with you, the NSA is the the single most important asset of national security but keep these things in mind when calling them 'the good guys'.
No you shouldn't fear Google. The (N)o (S)uch (A)gency doesn't need Google to be accomplish their objectives. This information about a for NSA employee, if it's true, is just cannon fodder. Google is the target of this kind of criticism because they provide the same services through their website that they provide to other (read competing) sites as a billable service. Plain and simple. Ever since they started expanding the services on their website, all of this negative criticism about them has been swelling. You people are all paranoid (which don't mean they aren't out to get you).
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Yes. As a matter of fact you are the only one.
Do you Yahoo!? Google isn't alone in recognizing phrases using their trademark in association with use of their website.
Rubber bats? You're so jaded. I declare you idiot-of-the-day. Stop off at the service desk on your way out to pick up your prizes; a solar powered flashlight and a DVD rewinder. Enjoy! You've earned them.
It's a 128MB card.
Oh well. Maybe I'll pop a fresh harddrive in there and load winderz 98se and the gfx and sound card drivers and try again just for giggles.
Mine was 731 I think.
My score seems a bit low. These benchmarks are smoke and mirrors anyway. I don't really care b/c all I play is RTCW at 1152x864x32 with most options at high and get frame rates of 50 to 110+.
But that Proxycon test really hammers my graphics card. Pushes the framerates down to 5 fps. I guess I really need to read the 3Dmark documentation thoroughly. I may have missed something important.
P4 1.8Ghz (northwood)
TH7II-RAID
512MB ECC RAM
Geforce4 ti4600 / 41.09 Drivers
Winders 98se / DirectX 9
blah...blah...blahhh. Am I suppose to assume that you have any better of a grip on the number of terrorist attacks or incidents that were prevented based on national security methods and sources? Well, I won't take your word because I don't know you from Adam. And if you think I take for granted the invaluable service that agencies such as NSA provide to our country you have missed the whole point of my message.
Don't patronize me by trying to make me feel like I have some personal intelligence detail watching 'my back' because I don't. Spy agencies exist to protect the interest of NATIONAL security. There actions protect ALL of us not just me and not just you so don't try to guilt trip me, chief. I know that the NSA spies. Hell, that's the only constant in this whole goddamn thread. It is no secret and common sense should tell you that the primary objective of a spy agency is to.....you guessed it, spy. I just think that the philosophy of 'these people are the good guys' is a bit naive.
And yes, I do believe there was a contingency to act on the 'wargames' (your characterization, not mine) if diplomacy failed between Cuba and the United States. So I guess we can agree to disagree on that one.
1. Isn't the NSA the worlds largest employer of mathmaticians. (They use to brag abou that on there web site.) I imagine Google has a lot of use for mathmaticians.
Not sure it's the world's largest but crytography (codemakers, codebreakers) would be NSA's main interest in mathematicians. I'm not sure they would be of much use at Google.
2. The NSA I imagine is a fairly picky employer. Not just for the background checks either.
Picky is an understatement.
Body Of Secrets by, James Bamford
"5. Google hires spooks"
I'm sure lots of companies hire ex-NSA engineers. Perhaps they hired him because he is a competent engineer? I hope you realise that this point makes you sound like someone with a paranoia disorder of some sort.
I agree completely. People love a good conspiracy. Problem is people let it take them over, [dramatic pause] way over the boundry of sensible thought and they find themselves suspecting them and they and those people of anything and everything.
The NSA hires thousands of people that may find themselves working in a lot of other industries. It's a government agency, not a cult. Employees don't necessarily need a top secret or even secret clearance to work at the NSA although it is commonplace that employees obtain them. There is a background check but it is unlikely an engineer would find himself analyzing signals intelligence. The NSA is very compartmentalized.
This type of toothless claim is just a tactic to try to manipulate your opinion. It has no merit and offers no proof that it is significant at all. The writer let's your mind do most of the work for him.
Just b/c you're paranoid it doesn't mean they're not out to get you.
This is the ULTIMATE example of irony, my friend...
Funny you should mention that they are one of the good guys. In the sixties, the NSA developed a program whose objective was to create scenarios of terrorist events around the U.S (that's right, America) which could be traced back to the Communists and eventually directly to Fidel Castro. These events would lead to a declaration of war against Cuba and eventually its liberation.
That is how far the government was willing to go to get Castro.
When I say, terrorist events, I'm not talking about vandalizing a courthouse or cutting the break lines on a government vehicle. I mean driving a bus packed with explosives into a crowded elementary school or setting off explosives in the middle of a crowded public place or blowing up a bridge. Serious stuff. This project was eventually exposed by a congressional investigation and heads did roll.
These are two perfect examples why the NSA retains the authority to keep its secrets; it's none of your business that a spook (or ex-spook) works for Google and I can assume with certainty that you knew nothing of tax dollars being used to plan terrorist activities within the US in the sixties. Most people aren't responsible enough to use information such as this correctly. NSA's business is really none of our business. It's not that someone shouldn't be watching the watchers, because the long arm of congress is doing just that. But the business of NSA, taken out of context, can seem to be very sinister.
I'm with you, the NSA is the the single most important asset of national security but keep these things in mind when calling them 'the good guys'.
No you shouldn't fear Google. The (N)o (S)uch (A)gency doesn't need Google to be accomplish their objectives. This information about a for NSA employee, if it's true, is just cannon fodder. Google is the target of this kind of criticism because they provide the same services through their website that they provide to other (read competing) sites as a billable service. Plain and simple. Ever since they started expanding the services on their website, all of this negative criticism about them has been swelling. You people are all paranoid (which don't mean they aren't out to get you).