I hate to be the one to break it to you, but this whole story is about your home state doing (more) stupid things.
And again, you don't know anything about my situation. If I could leave for anything less than $100k loss I would be gone in a heartbeat from this shit hole in the earth. Outside of Memphis and Nashville, you could nuc the state and no one would care, if they even noticed.
You want respect? Start talking like you don't have a moutful of marbles, that would be a good start. Nothing personal - you may be an exception to the norm for all I know - I'm talking about the population in general.
It doesn't prove anything. It sets the picture of the mentality of Tennessee residents, including its politicians and public servants, for the people who don't live here, in addition to the prolific drug problem mentioned by the parent. Had I known before I moved here, you are absolutely right, I would have moved somewhere else.
How does my story prove my interest in 15 YO hookers?
I moved here (TN) about a year ago after spending 25 years in the Washington DC area. Let's just say these Tennessee folks aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer. Actually, I think it would be fair to say they are not even butter knives in the knife drawer. Cut scene to a technology luncheon a month ago with the Govoner (a no show) and his chief of technology in Tennessee. Very scary speech. Obviously does not understand technology or business. Activity in said technology committe has since completed stopped. Cut scene to nearby county. Cocke County Tennessee, a dry (no liquor allowed county) where the alcohol is being served, by the sheriif's department at the local whore house that features 15 year old hookers. The entire county was arrested for cock fighting - technically illegal, but supported by the govenor. He is upset that the FBI waists it's time on such a harmless activity, entire county was released, whorehouse(s) resume. Yep, this is just the mentaility I would expect to propose taxing software.
Just wanted to second your comments. I used to watch the cartoon series a lot.
When I thought about going to the movie all the negative reviews had me expecting a really bad film.
What I saw was almost perfect as far as I as concerned. Yes, it differed from the cartoon some, but so what?
One thing that really pisses me off is all the negative comments about the dialogue. One earlier poster mentioned the exchange between Aeon and her sister as being poor acting. As someone who watched the original cartoons I found I was amazed at how the dialog duplicated the original cartoon and that fact sucked me into the movie even more. The reviewers apparently never watched the cartoon and do not understand that the dialogue is being delivered intentionally as it is. Like Dr. Smith in the Lost in Space movie, it took a lot of talent to duplicate the original character dialogue so well and I applaud the actors and director for doing so. It is a point not missed by everyone.
I can't wait for the DVD to be out (probably real soon and real cheap) so I can buy and watch it again.
It seems like most everyone is missing the point of the product(s).
I worked on a dot.com product that was part of the magical push technology that never happened. We had had an office full of developers, and half an office full of artists/designers. There was quite a bit of work needed to take the artwork and designs, done in Photoshop, illustrator etc, and cut them up, slice them, and hand code ways to interface with the images etc, while providing an environment with motion that we wanted to present to the users. I'd say at least %25 of the work, maybe more was dedicated to making the design work in the program.
That is the market being addressed here. It is not to make a developer into a designer, or a designer into a developer, it is to give the designer a new set of tools that is more closely tied to the end product AND to make it so the developer does not have to convert the design work into something useable in code.
If you have ever taken an application web site designed in Photoshop all the way through to a running deployed application used by hundreds of users you know what I mean. Yes, it is doable today, but a significant portion of the time is spent making the design work with the code, and still layout and look good. These products eliminate the middle work. I'm all for it.
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That is interesting.
It reminds me of my days working for MS as a sales support engineer. All the customers we visited hated Windows too. All of them, every single one, said Word Perfect would be their only choice for a word processor forever and none of them would ever buy Windows.
WTF happened? Not trolling here, this is true real life. How can everyone hate something so much and yet, when the decision time comes there is not statistically one single competing product? Just to be different than your current customers, I watched the Sparkle video and I can tell you I am excited about application development for the first time since the apps in HTML crap phase we've been in for 5 years. The only hate I have is the fact that it is at least a year away.
At the ripe old age of 35 I was making 6 figure salary for the first time at a dotcom. I managed to grow it to $135k a year as a manager of development. Left that and ended up at $175 an hour doing pure development work - life was good.
Now I'm struggling to find 20 hours a week at $40 (Less than $40k yr) - life sucks.
Before the TRS-80, the apple II and the Comodore PET there was only the build it yourself Altair and IMSAI computers (sp?)- and only the top of the line versions had more than toggle switches on them (home computers, not business).
I worked at one of the first software stores for home computers (The Program Store, in Washington DC). People came in and asked, "I want visicalc, what computer should I buy?"
This was a year before 5.25" floppies even existed in the consumer world. Yep, it loaded from cassette tape! Or in the soon available Comodore Amiga version, a rom cartridge, making that my recomendation. By this time 5.25" were becoming available, but a rom cartridge was faster, cheaper (didn't need a drive) and much more reliable. Kaypro and Osborne was a bit later than this.
I don't know about now, but at the time Microsofot did the POSIX implementation it wasn't so much that MS version of it was useless, it was more that the spec itself was useless. It did not have things like printing and network access, so in all reality not one single useful application in the world could say it was POSIX compliant.
I know, I worked for Microsoft Federal at the time. The only reason POSIX compliance was ever mentioned by a customer was to keep Microsoft out of a bid. So we put in POSIX. No one ever userd it or intended to use it, but it shut up the excuse to not buy Windows in the federal marketplace.
Maybe POSIX is something more today. If it's not I can certainly see why Microsoft would drop it. Services for Linux on the other hand is useful and used in quite a number of places, and Microsoft might as well throw it in there, if nothing else just to make it easier to install. I can't see where the overhead is significant if it isnt being used.
The notebooks actualy just need to be signed by someone saying the idea was presented on a certain date and the signee understands the invention. I don't know what how that can be proven other than testimony.
There is also a patent called a provisional patent that is filed before a formal patent. So even if Apple shipped an iPod a year before MS patented it, if MS filed a provisional patent earlier then the iPod is NOT prior art.
There seem to be a lot of people on slashdot who think they know a lot about patents, and don't.
I don't follow you? If your crypto cant withstand its source being looked at, it isnt crypto, it's crap. I can show you source for public private key stuff all day long and it doesnt make it any less secure. I'm not sure but I believe the DRM stuff is cryptographically bound - ie, just bypassing a check is not going to get you to what you want. If that is all it takes to get around the DRM then man, I need to go patent something real quick.... brb
The fact is Hollywood and LA are all craving DRM like ice water in hell. Who ever is the first OS to get an un-cracked DRM to market and into the hands of consumers stands a good chance of become Hollywood's and LAs OS of choice. This is a serious threat to Microsoft if they can pull it off before Microsoft does.
Hell, for that matter, if the OSS crowd would stop whining, look at the good reasons for DRM and implement DRM in Linux in a way favorable to Hollywood, then it could quite possibly become a real threat. I guarantee the thought of that has Gates, Ballmer and Jobs shaking.
There doesn't seem to be many comments that are focused on reality (although one about cat herding got moderated to a +4 interesting) but here is some perspective for those who have not lived through it all;
Mainframes where designed when UIs were not an issue, but cost was. In order to process 1000s of payroll checks for the least amount of money, performance was #1 priority and you will find most of the mainframes designs centered around that. For instance, multiple busses - the original IBM mainframes had more parallel IO than today's PCs designed 40 years later (and no, not because today's PCs are faster, its because today's PCs are made cheaper). They increased performance by adding multiple paths to the same devices - sometimes up to 8 physical paths. Today's PCs? They string 8 disks on the same cable. Dumb, slow. The mainframe OS was written with performance in mind. Heck, half of the OS was dedicated to handling print spooling - since there was only one slow printer most of the time. Unfortunately it is some of the most disgusting monolithic designed on the fly code ever created, but it performs well.
Then came the terminal - 2 approaches; The interactive approach (*nix) and the high performance approach (CICS mainframe). Again cost and performance was #1 priority for mainframes and not an issue for *nix. Mainframes terminal 'transactions' are all pre-defined, the files pre-opened and the screen layout pre-written. The results was you could handle a 1000 terminal call center with ease. The most Unix terminals you could run on similar cost hardware with similar transactions was about 16. Again, different purpose, one was for performance, and one was for flexibility.
Then came the PC - The GUI (eventually) became the #1 priority. Prices were cheap, relative speed was fast, so it all gets bloated up without true regard to performance. It sure does look nice, but it is about as efficient as using sand for motor oil.
I have had many discussions with those who are responsible for Windows and Unix internal OS design as far as performance goes, and it clear that they just don't really get the big picture. Sure they know their little version of it, like LRU paging algorithms - but talk to any one of them about capacity planning and how it relates to resource consumption and resource management and you get blank stares. Talk to them about hierarchical storage management and you get "huh?". When the performance GURU at (insert OS software company here) says "when CPU busy exceeds X then you need a faster processor" you know he hasn't a clue what he is talking about. The definition of performance is that you achieve more than X percent utilitization or you aren't tuning you system correctly. The things that were done on the mainframe 20 years ago to increase performance and lower costs will slowly make its way into the PC environment, as the PC crowd realizes that cost is again an issue.
But for now, it is a different world, one where cost is not the issue (or at least not really taken seriously) ($5m for a mainframe v. $500 for a PC). Why would anyone think that they should "get along"?
Oh really - and how exactly is Outlook any different from any other mail client as far as the problems you describe? You are a clueless moron. And your types presence on the internet is the reason we all get so much spam, as the brain dead are obviously the intended targets.
I know not everyone is in favor of the Microsoft monopoly, but I am so sick of spam and the politically correct solution is/will be held up in committee until after I am dead. This is the one case where the defacto standard defining monopoly can make a positive difference.
Let MS force their answer on us, and everyone will have to comply or die. End result? Maybe not the most perfect solution but a significant reduction in spam. Or we could wait around until the united nations approves a technical solution, but I assuming the earth would have turned into a frozen ball of ice by then.
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I hate to be the one to break it to you, but this whole story is about your home state doing (more) stupid things.
And again, you don't know anything about my situation. If I could leave for anything less than $100k loss I would be gone in a heartbeat from this shit hole in the earth. Outside of Memphis and Nashville, you could nuc the state and no one would care, if they even noticed.
You want respect? Start talking like you don't have a moutful of marbles, that would be a good start. Nothing personal - you may be an exception to the norm for all I know - I'm talking about the population in general.
It doesn't prove anything. It sets the picture of the mentality of Tennessee residents, including its politicians and public servants, for the people who don't live here, in addition to the prolific drug problem mentioned by the parent. Had I known before I moved here, you are absolutely right, I would have moved somewhere else.
How does my story prove my interest in 15 YO hookers?
I moved here (TN) about a year ago after spending 25 years in the Washington DC area.
Let's just say these Tennessee folks aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer. Actually, I think it would be fair to say they are not even butter knives in the knife drawer.
Cut scene to a technology luncheon a month ago with the Govoner (a no show) and his chief of technology in Tennessee. Very scary speech. Obviously does not understand technology or business. Activity in said technology committe has since completed stopped.
Cut scene to nearby county. Cocke County Tennessee, a dry (no liquor allowed county) where the alcohol is being served, by the sheriif's department at the local whore house that features 15 year old hookers. The entire county was arrested for cock fighting - technically illegal, but supported by the govenor. He is upset that the FBI waists it's time on such a harmless activity, entire county was released, whorehouse(s) resume.
Yep, this is just the mentaility I would expect to propose taxing software.
Just wanted to second your comments. I used to watch the cartoon series a lot.
When I thought about going to the movie all the negative reviews had me expecting a really bad film.
What I saw was almost perfect as far as I as concerned. Yes, it differed from the cartoon some, but so what?
One thing that really pisses me off is all the negative comments about the dialogue. One earlier poster mentioned the exchange between Aeon and her sister as being poor acting. As someone who watched the original cartoons I found I was amazed at how the dialog duplicated the original cartoon and that fact sucked me into the movie even more. The reviewers apparently never watched the cartoon and do not understand that the dialogue is being delivered intentionally as it is. Like Dr. Smith in the Lost in Space movie, it took a lot of talent to duplicate the original character dialogue so well and I applaud the actors and director for doing so. It is a point not missed by everyone.
I can't wait for the DVD to be out (probably real soon and real cheap) so I can buy and watch it again.
"it's just the opinion of one idiot. what the hell is it doing on slashdot?"
Man it's hard to resist obvious responses.
It seems like most everyone is missing the point of the product(s).
I worked on a dot.com product that was part of the magical push technology that never happened. We had had an office full of developers, and half an office full of artists/designers. There was quite a bit of work needed to take the artwork and designs, done in Photoshop, illustrator etc, and cut them up, slice them, and hand code ways to interface with the images etc, while providing an environment with motion that we wanted to present to the users. I'd say at least %25 of the work, maybe more was dedicated to making the design work in the program.
That is the market being addressed here. It is not to make a developer into a designer, or a designer into a developer, it is to give the designer a new set of tools that is more closely tied to the end product AND to make it so the developer does not have to convert the design work into something useable in code.
If you have ever taken an application web site designed in Photoshop all the way through to a running deployed application used by hundreds of users you know what I mean. Yes, it is doable today, but a significant portion of the time is spent making the design work with the code, and still layout and look good. These products eliminate the middle work. I'm all for it.
That is interesting.
It reminds me of my days working for MS as a sales support engineer.
All the customers we visited hated Windows too. All of them, every single one, said Word Perfect would be their only choice for a word processor forever and none of them would ever buy Windows.
WTF happened?
Not trolling here, this is true real life. How can everyone hate something so much and yet, when the decision time comes there is not statistically one single competing product?
Just to be different than your current customers, I watched the Sparkle video and I can tell you I am excited about application development for the first time since the apps in HTML crap phase we've been in for 5 years. The only hate I have is the fact that it is at least a year away.
At the ripe old age of 35 I was making 6 figure salary for the first time at a dotcom. I managed to grow it to $135k a year as a manager of development. Left that and ended up at $175 an hour doing pure development work - life was good.
Now I'm struggling to find 20 hours a week at $40 (Less than $40k yr) - life sucks.
IT sucks.
LOL - Amiga - wishful thinking, I meant Atari 400 & 800s.
Nope, grand parent has it right to some extent.
Before the TRS-80, the apple II and the Comodore PET there was only the build it yourself Altair and IMSAI computers (sp?)- and only the top of the line versions had more than toggle switches on them (home computers, not business).
I worked at one of the first software stores for home computers (The Program Store, in Washington DC). People came in and asked, "I want visicalc, what computer should I buy?"
This was a year before 5.25" floppies even existed in the consumer world. Yep, it loaded from cassette tape! Or in the soon available Comodore Amiga version, a rom cartridge, making that my recomendation. By this time 5.25" were becoming available, but a rom cartridge was faster, cheaper (didn't need a drive) and much more reliable. Kaypro and Osborne was a bit later than this.
I don't know about now, but at the time Microsofot did the POSIX implementation it wasn't so much that MS version of it was useless, it was more that the spec itself was useless. It did not have things like printing and network access, so in all reality not one single useful application in the world could say it was POSIX compliant.
I know, I worked for Microsoft Federal at the time. The only reason POSIX compliance was ever mentioned by a customer was to keep Microsoft out of a bid. So we put in POSIX. No one ever userd it or intended to use it, but it shut up the excuse to not buy Windows in the federal marketplace.
Maybe POSIX is something more today. If it's not I can certainly see why Microsoft would drop it.
Services for Linux on the other hand is useful and used in quite a number of places, and Microsoft might as well throw it in there, if nothing else just to make it easier to install. I can't see where the overhead is significant if it isnt being used.
The notebooks actualy just need to be signed by someone saying the idea was presented on a certain date and the signee understands the invention. I don't know what how that can be proven other than testimony. There is also a patent called a provisional patent that is filed before a formal patent. So even if Apple shipped an iPod a year before MS patented it, if MS filed a provisional patent earlier then the iPod is NOT prior art. There seem to be a lot of people on slashdot who think they know a lot about patents, and don't.
F'n karma whore.
Says nothing interesting or insightful, but writes well and fools moderators.
WTF is an innocent?
I don't follow you? If your crypto cant withstand its source being looked at, it isnt crypto, it's crap. I can show you source for public private key stuff all day long and it doesnt make it any less secure. .... brb
I'm not sure but I believe the DRM stuff is cryptographically bound - ie, just bypassing a check is not going to get you to what you want. If that is all it takes to get around the DRM then man, I need to go patent something real quick
Definitions eh?
Here are a couple for you;
Terrorist: Someone who uses illegal acts to scare, kill and otherwise supress opposition.
Soldier: Someone who scares, kills and otherwise supresses opposition.
The only difference is which side you are on, otherwise they are identical.
If you don't think this "war on terror" has led to the death of a lot of innocent people at the hands of the "legal" side, you are clueless.
Pretty insightful and informative, thanks.
The fact is Hollywood and LA are all craving DRM like ice water in hell. Who ever is the first OS to get an un-cracked DRM to market and into the hands of consumers stands a good chance of become Hollywood's and LAs OS of choice. This is a serious threat to Microsoft if they can pull it off before Microsoft does.
Hell, for that matter, if the OSS crowd would stop whining, look at the good reasons for DRM and implement DRM in Linux in a way favorable to Hollywood, then it could quite possibly become a real threat. I guarantee the thought of that has Gates, Ballmer and Jobs shaking.
"win a free story"
Correction: they will probably have the story run 3-4 times, as usual.
There doesn't seem to be many comments that are focused on reality (although one about cat herding got moderated to a +4 interesting) but here is some perspective for those who have not lived through it all;
Mainframes where designed when UIs were not an issue, but cost was. In order to process 1000s of payroll checks for the least amount of money, performance was #1 priority and you will find most of the mainframes designs centered around that. For instance, multiple busses - the original IBM mainframes had more parallel IO than today's PCs designed 40 years later (and no, not because today's PCs are faster, its because today's PCs are made cheaper). They increased performance by adding multiple paths to the same devices - sometimes up to 8 physical paths. Today's PCs? They string 8 disks on the same cable. Dumb, slow. The mainframe OS was written with performance in mind. Heck, half of the OS was dedicated to handling print spooling - since there was only one slow printer most of the time. Unfortunately it is some of the most disgusting monolithic designed on the fly code ever created, but it performs well.
Then came the terminal - 2 approaches; The interactive approach (*nix) and the high performance approach (CICS mainframe). Again cost and performance was #1 priority for mainframes and not an issue for *nix. Mainframes terminal 'transactions' are all pre-defined, the files pre-opened and the screen layout pre-written. The results was you could handle a 1000 terminal call center with ease. The most Unix terminals you could run on similar cost hardware with similar transactions was about 16. Again, different purpose, one was for performance, and one was for flexibility.
Then came the PC - The GUI (eventually) became the #1 priority. Prices were cheap, relative speed was fast, so it all gets bloated up without true regard to performance. It sure does look nice, but it is about as efficient as using sand for motor oil.
I have had many discussions with those who are responsible for Windows and Unix internal OS design as far as performance goes, and it clear that they just don't really get the big picture. Sure they know their little version of it, like LRU paging algorithms - but talk to any one of them about capacity planning and how it relates to resource consumption and resource management and you get blank stares. Talk to them about hierarchical storage management and you get "huh?". When the performance GURU at (insert OS software company here) says "when CPU busy exceeds X then you need a faster processor" you know he hasn't a clue what he is talking about. The definition of performance is that you achieve more than X percent utilitization or you aren't tuning you system correctly. The things that were done on the mainframe 20 years ago to increase performance and lower costs will slowly make its way into the PC environment, as the PC crowd realizes that cost is again an issue.
But for now, it is a different world, one where cost is not the issue (or at least not really taken seriously) ($5m for a mainframe v. $500 for a PC). Why would anyone think that they should "get along"?
Oh really - and how exactly is Outlook any different from any other mail client as far as the problems you describe?
You are a clueless moron. And your types presence on the internet is the reason we all get so much spam, as the brain dead are obviously the intended targets.
I know not everyone is in favor of the Microsoft monopoly, but I am so sick of spam and the politically correct solution is/will be held up in committee until after I am dead.
This is the one case where the defacto standard defining monopoly can make a positive difference.
Let MS force their answer on us, and everyone will have to comply or die. End result? Maybe not the most perfect solution but a significant reduction in spam.
Or we could wait around until the united nations approves a technical solution, but I assuming the earth would have turned into a frozen ball of ice by then.
off topic moderator is a dick. This was clearly funny.
Slashdot articles one sided, predictable and repetitive.