If they do earn it, half their misogynist colleagues will still think they didn't deserve it and are diversity or affirmative action hires. On slashdot it seems that even encouraging girls to pursue STEM fields is wrong headed, like we're supposed to stand back and patiently wait for stereotypes and preconcpetions and barriers to dissolve by themselves.
And many of us think there is NO problem really...that this is solution or outrage in search of a problem.
I'm not any more worried about this than I am the shortage of males as nurses, the shortage of white jewish players in the NBA, or the number of Asians as lead NASCAR drivers.
Categories of people naturally migrate to different types of jobs/interests. Big fucking deal....
Diversity for the sake of diversity alone, IMHO is just a waste of time..what does it accomplish really? If it happens it happens, if it does't, well...the world won't end now will it?
Yeah, I'm thinking at this point..."What's the Point?"
Sure, nowadays, you don't buy PB for the 'thrill' of seeing a nekkid women so much...but while you do thumb through it, it *is* nice to see nude , really good looking classy ladies...which you don't generally see on the internet sex sites.
They aren't all tattooed up, etc....pleasant to look at while reading through the magazine. Classy....
But if not with that, well, not sure if the rest of the content is enough to warrant interest really...to me it was the combination of great looking nude ladies and reading material.
Not to mention...you will get some women, famous to pose in Playboy that aren't gonna do it in another lower class magazine that shows primarily gynecologist shots.
Don't be such a douche bag. Getting your car e-tested to prove it's playing environmentally nice is no different then getting a license to prove you know how to drive.
If my state doesn't require it, why should I care or expend the effort (and presumably cost) for doing such a thing on my own?
You do realize that the Texas Board of Education decides what go into the textbooks not only for Texas but pretty much the rest of the country?
And California decides fucking emissions standards often for the rest of the country too..what's your point?
Hey, if a state wants different school books, they can demand them...just will have to pay a bit more but no one holds a gun to their head to by the one true school book.
That's true, BUT isn't in every case. The choice should be up to the states.
You are a citizen of your state first, and a citizen of the United States second. There are often vast differences in states (TX gun laws vs NY gun laws for instance)...so, depending on how you wish to live with respect to those laws...you have full choice of those two or other states with varying differences in-between.
What part of United States don't you understand? Someone has to set the educational standards for the entire country. We can't have 50 states marching to a different drummer
Perhaps you need to bone up on your old civics classes...that is PRECISELY how the US was set up..to have a weak Federal govt. with most of the power residing in the states, which are local and more answerable to the people that live within them. If you don't like how things are in one state, you are then free to move to another state which is more similar to your beliefs and style of living.
Not to mention....the education system should NOT be in the hands of the Feds to dictate what the states teach.
I agree more comp-sci should be taught, but while thumbing through my copy of the constitution, I'm having difficulty finding where amongst the limited, emumerated rights and responsibility of the Feds are suppose to dictate and do education? I'm failing to see how you can even tie that into interstate commerce?
And for Mr. Rahm Emanuel, I might suggest for him to figure out that while Chicago has some of the toughest gun laws in the country, that more people are getting gunned down there than most anywhere else in the US? Why isn't he chanting "black lives matter" there as that blacks are killing each other there at an alarming rate.
I don't think comp-sci teaching will solve that one any time soon....
These people don't care. It's more important to them to be able to have jackrabbit starts when the light turns green than to worry about hypothetical pollution.
Ontario has already announced that you will be unable to register your vehicle next year until you provide documentation showing you've had the work done.
Thankfully, I don't live in Canada.
And, thankfully...I've never lived anywhere where you had to have emissions checked. Some states don't even require car inspections at all...but the ones where I've lived that do, only check to see if your horn beeps, your lights light, turn signals work and windshield wipers run.
So, no problems in many states with such draconian rules as you speak of...
Considering I would expect a lot of people to do that and that only those cars are polluting more than the total of the other cars in circulation in north america, if I was working at any related government agency I would not renew the road worthiness of the cars and requires them to be certified repaired/upgraded before allowing them to be driven again.
Well, the NICE things is....not all states require emissions test, hell, not all states require auto inspections at all.
So, depends on where you live pal....thankfully, I've never lived in a state that requires me to get any emissions testing.
Sucks to live in CA tho...I hear that is hell for auto tuners out there.
If it were my car, I'd certainly NOT take it in for the recall "fixes"....hardware or software.
I'd not want them to reduce my performance or fuel economy just for a tiny pollution number change that isn't gonna make a damned bit of difference to the world in the bigger picture.
However people who drive performance cars often do want to know a lot of information about them including throttle position, coolant temp (everyone should want to know this, but sigh), oil pressure, boost pressure, oil temp, intake pressure and a heap of other stats... Especially if they're a tuner... and what kind of a car buyer buys a Porshce over a Mercedes?
But, what does that have to do with my "entertainment" system? I don't need tuning information to play my mp3's.....
Ok, why do they even need to know if the car is in MOTION at all just to play music??
All of my car stereos so far, have never had to have any connection to car info to play my songs as I barrel down the road. On custom installs, I've never hooked to any of the car data, etc.
Why would an entertainment system need to know any of that information at all?
I know many people who are not known by the name printed in their passport.
Wow, I don't actually know many people that HAVE a passport?!?!?
I know more folks in Europe have them, but most Americans do not own a passport.
I've never been on Facebook, but are they really asking for identification documents like this JUST to have an account on FB?? If so, wow....another good reason to NOT be on Facebook...
Well, again, I just want labels so "I" can make my own decisions. I can't see that it would be the end of the world just to label them.
If I was not a GMO product..then, I'd not be worried about glyphosate levels in my food.
And too...if you want to have a more specific selection of GMO so as not to be as broad as things like selective breeding, or perhaps cross pollinating to select for traits, then maybe just label the ones where they splice in genes from such disparate species as a jellyfish into corn.
I have my doubts on the long term safety of this, as that we don't fully know what problems it may also cause further up and down the dna chain, and other proteins being coded.
This technology just hasn't been tested long enough to know it is safe...we've been guinea pigs for these years, and it often takes a LONG time to see really bad things happen, or have things slowly build up in the environment and in peoples' bodies.
Much of the problem GMO things I've been discussing have to do with the same companies that brought us Agent Orange, and DDT...which were perfectly safe*.......till decades later when we found out they weren't safe at all.
All I"m asking for is a label so I can make my own decisions on what I'm buying at the store and putting into my body. That should be a basic piece of information for anyone....
I can't see your objections to just adding a simple label? I'll pay the extra $0.01 it may take to change the labelling.
Why is it so bad to just let folks know? No one is advocating for anyone to hold a gun to the consumer's head to force them to buy or not buy the foodstuffs.
And, at the very least...if there is a consumer push towards more non-GMO's, it might push the industry to have more food diversity, which cannot possibly be a bad thing. Right now, the monoculture of many of our foods, could potentially be a problem. What if a new bug or bacteria comes and wipes out all of one strain of wheat/corn/tomato/ and it is all gone because we don't have other strains of the foods that might be resistant....
If nothing else, if it did have this effect on food growers, that alone would be a good side effect of this.
So you're telling me that SEVENTEEN restaurants didn't follow basic food safety? This is your ideology speaking again: If the food is tainted badly enough, then short of scrubbing each leaf with antibiotics, you aren't going to remove the parasites.
Yes, easily....IF they were using pre-bagged and supposedly pre-washed lettuce...then whomever they bought it from, did not clean it properly.
You see this all the time with other products, like ground meat. If produced in a large food factory and is infected, then loads of it go out to many different restaurants, etc and can cause sickness in many different stores and homes all over the US.
Keep in mind that this comes after Chipotle just switched from their previous supplier that provided GMO food to one that is all organic. Smart choice, wasn't it?
Anyways let's hear it, tell me the process you use to remove the lettuce from the burrito to then wash it.
Strawman argument.
One can get food poisoning from ANY restaurant that does not follow basic food safety and preparation standards (like washing produce, etc).
As for me personally? I rarely eat fast food....I love to cook and do most of my cooking and dining at home. Rather than waste money on crappy fast food....I save my pennies and every couple of weeks go somewhere for some fine dining, with good service and wine selection.
But any time you dine out, if the establishment doesn't clean and properly handle the food, it can be unsafe, this has nothing to do with GMO or non-GMO.
That's what food labels are for. They aren't intended to scare people just to satisfy YOUR anti-science ideology.
What anti-science?
If nothing else, the increase of GMO and the ever altering of them to allow, more and more pesticide use (due to us now selecting for more and more pesticide resistant insects and weeds) which does build up on the foods we eat, and are now ingesting more and more of.....glyphosates are now being shown to definitely be harmful. This is directly linked to more GMO crop usage.
It has less to do with the Science of GMO and potential issue that my come with the new combo of genes. It has more to do with the Patent on a core food and even more to do with pesticides.
GMOs are designed to resist the negative effects from pesticides so more pesticides can be applied. That is great that more bugs are dying and more plants are living. But you can't tell me that spraying our food with not just a little bit of poison but a TON of poison is not absorbed by the food. Then we eat the food that now has absorbed the poison. That must be real healthy.
Not to mention, that we are also now, currently selecting for insects and other critters that are pesticide resistant.
It is analogous to the over use of antibiotics selecting for super "bugs" which we're already starting to see the negative effects of....
In fact one more thing to add: If you're truly concerned about food safety and ethics, then you should be lobbying against organic food, which has on numerous occasions caused death by food poisoning, which stems from the fact that it requires using cow shit and limiting pasteurization.
Err....you don't wash your food before you cook or eat it?
Geez, I'll bet those same people get a bit sick every time they cook chicken, or cross contaminate between raw meats and foods that aren't cooked.
They're banning it for the same reason that requiring labeling for cell phone radiation levels is now banned: It's a pointless indicator designed to create consumer FUD because of somebody's silly religious belief.
I'm of the mind that YOU would NOT have supported the basic food labelling we have now for ingredients....
There should be nothing wrong with putting a label on there and letting the public make their own decisions as to whether they want GMO foods any more than knowing what the salt amounts are or what non-food chemicals and preservatives might be in there...
Why do you HATE free choice?
It seems much of Europe has not problem with letting folks know...why is it a bad thing in the US?
And religion? I've never heard religion thrown in the argument on either side for GMO labelling....talk about you adding FUD to a conversation...
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And many of us think there is NO problem really...that this is solution or outrage in search of a problem.
I'm not any more worried about this than I am the shortage of males as nurses, the shortage of white jewish players in the NBA, or the number of Asians as lead NASCAR drivers.
Categories of people naturally migrate to different types of jobs/interests. Big fucking deal....
Diversity for the sake of diversity alone, IMHO is just a waste of time..what does it accomplish really? If it happens it happens, if it does't, well...the world won't end now will it?
Sure, nowadays, you don't buy PB for the 'thrill' of seeing a nekkid women so much...but while you do thumb through it, it *is* nice to see nude , really good looking classy ladies...which you don't generally see on the internet sex sites.
They aren't all tattooed up, etc....pleasant to look at while reading through the magazine. Classy....
But if not with that, well, not sure if the rest of the content is enough to warrant interest really...to me it was the combination of great looking nude ladies and reading material.
Not to mention...you will get some women, famous to pose in Playboy that aren't gonna do it in another lower class magazine that shows primarily gynecologist shots.
If my state doesn't require it, why should I care or expend the effort (and presumably cost) for doing such a thing on my own?
And California decides fucking emissions standards often for the rest of the country too..what's your point?
Hey, if a state wants different school books, they can demand them...just will have to pay a bit more but no one holds a gun to their head to by the one true school book.
You are a citizen of your state first, and a citizen of the United States second. There are often vast differences in states (TX gun laws vs NY gun laws for instance)...so, depending on how you wish to live with respect to those laws...you have full choice of those two or other states with varying differences in-between.
Perhaps you need to bone up on your old civics classes...that is PRECISELY how the US was set up..to have a weak Federal govt. with most of the power residing in the states, which are local and more answerable to the people that live within them. If you don't like how things are in one state, you are then free to move to another state which is more similar to your beliefs and style of living.
No, they take too much of our tax money and they try to blackmail states into being subservient.
It is OUR money to begin with, and it is better spent in the states where the local people have a much stronger local voice in how things are done.
I agree more comp-sci should be taught, but while thumbing through my copy of the constitution, I'm having difficulty finding where amongst the limited, emumerated rights and responsibility of the Feds are suppose to dictate and do education? I'm failing to see how you can even tie that into interstate commerce?
And for Mr. Rahm Emanuel, I might suggest for him to figure out that while Chicago has some of the toughest gun laws in the country, that more people are getting gunned down there than most anywhere else in the US? Why isn't he chanting "black lives matter" there as that blacks are killing each other there at an alarming rate.
I don't think comp-sci teaching will solve that one any time soon....
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That's me!!
Thankfully, I don't live in Canada.
And, thankfully...I've never lived anywhere where you had to have emissions checked. Some states don't even require car inspections at all...but the ones where I've lived that do, only check to see if your horn beeps, your lights light, turn signals work and windshield wipers run.
So, no problems in many states with such draconian rules as you speak of...
Well, the NICE things is....not all states require emissions test, hell, not all states require auto inspections at all.
So, depends on where you live pal....thankfully, I've never lived in a state that requires me to get any emissions testing.
Sucks to live in CA tho...I hear that is hell for auto tuners out there.
If it were my car, I'd certainly NOT take it in for the recall "fixes"....hardware or software.
I'd not want them to reduce my performance or fuel economy just for a tiny pollution number change that isn't gonna make a damned bit of difference to the world in the bigger picture.
Hmm....so, again, exactly why did Obama get a Nobel award? What were those achievements over a lifetime again?
But, what does that have to do with my "entertainment" system? I don't need tuning information to play my mp3's.....
All of my car stereos so far, have never had to have any connection to car info to play my songs as I barrel down the road. On custom installs, I've never hooked to any of the car data, etc.
Why would an entertainment system need to know any of that information at all?
WOW, seriously???
Can you name some of these companies? That would be a real eye opener....!!
Wow, I don't actually know many people that HAVE a passport?!?!?
I know more folks in Europe have them, but most Americans do not own a passport.
I've never been on Facebook, but are they really asking for identification documents like this JUST to have an account on FB?? If so, wow....another good reason to NOT be on Facebook...
I have no idea why you keep mentioning religion...it has nothing to do with the GMO labelling arguments....
If I was not a GMO product..then, I'd not be worried about glyphosate levels in my food.
And too...if you want to have a more specific selection of GMO so as not to be as broad as things like selective breeding, or perhaps cross pollinating to select for traits, then maybe just label the ones where they splice in genes from such disparate species as a jellyfish into corn.
I have my doubts on the long term safety of this, as that we don't fully know what problems it may also cause further up and down the dna chain, and other proteins being coded.
This technology just hasn't been tested long enough to know it is safe...we've been guinea pigs for these years, and it often takes a LONG time to see really bad things happen, or have things slowly build up in the environment and in peoples' bodies.
Much of the problem GMO things I've been discussing have to do with the same companies that brought us Agent Orange, and DDT...which were perfectly safe*.......till decades later when we found out they weren't safe at all.
All I"m asking for is a label so I can make my own decisions on what I'm buying at the store and putting into my body. That should be a basic piece of information for anyone....
I can't see your objections to just adding a simple label? I'll pay the extra $0.01 it may take to change the labelling.
Why is it so bad to just let folks know? No one is advocating for anyone to hold a gun to the consumer's head to force them to buy or not buy the foodstuffs.
And, at the very least...if there is a consumer push towards more non-GMO's, it might push the industry to have more food diversity, which cannot possibly be a bad thing. Right now, the monoculture of many of our foods, could potentially be a problem. What if a new bug or bacteria comes and wipes out all of one strain of wheat/corn/tomato/ and it is all gone because we don't have other strains of the foods that might be resistant....
If nothing else, if it did have this effect on food growers, that alone would be a good side effect of this.
Yes, easily....IF they were using pre-bagged and supposedly pre-washed lettuce...then whomever they bought it from, did not clean it properly.
You see this all the time with other products, like ground meat. If produced in a large food factory and is infected, then loads of it go out to many different restaurants, etc and can cause sickness in many different stores and homes all over the US.
Strawman argument.
One can get food poisoning from ANY restaurant that does not follow basic food safety and preparation standards (like washing produce, etc).
As for me personally? I rarely eat fast food....I love to cook and do most of my cooking and dining at home. Rather than waste money on crappy fast food....I save my pennies and every couple of weeks go somewhere for some fine dining, with good service and wine selection.
But any time you dine out, if the establishment doesn't clean and properly handle the food, it can be unsafe, this has nothing to do with GMO or non-GMO.
Next argument please?
What anti-science?
If nothing else, the increase of GMO and the ever altering of them to allow, more and more pesticide use (due to us now selecting for more and more pesticide resistant insects and weeds) which does build up on the foods we eat, and are now ingesting more and more of.....glyphosates are now being shown to definitely be harmful. This is directly linked to more GMO crop usage.
Not to mention, that we are also now, currently selecting for insects and other critters that are pesticide resistant.
It is analogous to the over use of antibiotics selecting for super "bugs" which we're already starting to see the negative effects of....
Err....you don't wash your food before you cook or eat it?
Geez, I'll bet those same people get a bit sick every time they cook chicken, or cross contaminate between raw meats and foods that aren't cooked.
A bit of a straw man there, eh?
I'm of the mind that YOU would NOT have supported the basic food labelling we have now for ingredients....
There should be nothing wrong with putting a label on there and letting the public make their own decisions as to whether they want GMO foods any more than knowing what the salt amounts are or what non-food chemicals and preservatives might be in there...
Why do you HATE free choice?
It seems much of Europe has not problem with letting folks know...why is it a bad thing in the US?
And religion? I've never heard religion thrown in the argument on either side for GMO labelling....talk about you adding FUD to a conversation...