And there are lots of small old-fashioned butcheries. Mine can still tell me what farmer raised that cow and on what it was fed. And that is in one of the larger cities around here, not exactly a smalltown butchery in the countryside. You are missing out on something there, sorry. No offense intended, but losing that would feel like a loss of a bit of culture to me.
I agree...wish I had that type of access to good meat around here....
4-6 bags, doing what?! I do 1 bag every 2 weeks, and it's not always full. They do recycling and trash pickups on alternating weeks here.
Hmm...well, of course, none of mine is recycling I just throw everything away.
And after thinking about it, this WAS a heavy week...I had forgotten to put the trash out last Sunday..so, I had a big bag and some pizza boxes in there...plus ALL the trash that thanksgiving generated ( food packages, wine, beer, liquor bottles, general trash, etc)...and no trash pickup on T-Day..so, by the next Sunday, I did have a stack of boxes and 2 trash cans full...total of about 5-6 LARGE bags.
Again, this was a special case now that I think on it.
But on normal weeks, my trash runs Monday and Thu (both at crack of dawn, so put out trash night before)..and I generally have 1-2 bags to pick up on Thur...and about 3 maybe 4 on Sunday pickup...due to having the weekend for partying, and I do all my cooking for the week on Sundays...
One thing to ask...do you eat out often? Do you entertain at home very much? I like to have friends over whenever possible. I cook most all of my meals and rarely eat out..therefore, most all food related garbage is generated at home, and not out at an eating establishment where other people deal with it.
If insurance covered catastrophic illness only, people would have the incentive to shop around for general care and find the best value for their money. Doctors would have the incentive to compete among each other for price and value.
I get ya..and I agree!!
Yep, back in the day they called it "major medical" and it was to only be used for catastrophic events. Routine thing were saved for and paid out of pocket, and prices were cheaper...people would Dr. shop.
I wish we could do more like this. I wish it was easier to set up a HSA (Health Savings Acct)...the NON-use it or lose it (vs FSA)...and let us sock back as much money as possible pre-tax, and use that to pay routine bills.
I mean, we save to pay for maintenance on our cars and homes, why not on ourselves?
It seems it should be obvious to the Feds to make this type program EASIER to get into and use...but no.....they want to complicate and bloat it all...and make it even more $$ and inefficient than it is now...
I have 4 bins here instead of one. Rubbish, glass (all types), paper (all types) and metal (all types). It's hardly rocket science. If you are going to complain about the smell of your trash, try rinsing it.
Ok...I'm having to laugh now.
You're actually insinuating that I WASH my trash, before disposing of it??
It would be comical if I didn't guess you were actually serious about it.
It reminds me of that old Phil Hartman skit on SNL, the "Anal Retentive Chef"...where he'd get nothing actually cooked due to having to do things like wash his trash, dry it, then triple wrap it in plastic, and staple in two paper bags one inside the other.
See? Thinking like this USED to actually be a joke...
That's why you put your recycle bins in the garage or out back and have one for each type for the entire house.
Err...I have trash cans at least in:
Kitchen (heavy garbage generation)
2x Bathrooms
Office
So, now I need to have a bin for each type of garbage in each room..or are you saying that no matter where I am in the house..when I want to throw something away, I have to stop and run to whatever room as the bin for that particular bit of trash?
Sorry, way too big a PITA factor. There is no compelling reason for me to put myself out like that.
I also don't want to take up my yard space with 3+ of each type of trash can...I have 2 large one now...just for all garbage, so now...I need 6 of them..2 for each of 3+ types of garbage??
Pain, you say? OK then, just quit eating food that comes in packages. Eat nothing but fresh fruits and vegetables, and remember that meat products do NOT get composted but eggshells do. Then all you have left are milk containers (I don't expect you to raise your own dairy cows) and that's only one thing so therefore doesn't need to be "sorted", technically. Problem solved.:-D
You know...life is short, and I'd much rather spend my time and effort on something that either earns me money or is fun to do.
I see no compelling reason to put myself out to go to the effort do to this, when it does not benefit me directly whatsoever.
Much easier to just toss everything out into the can and twice a week, pull it to the curb to have someone haul it off early, early the next morning.
So, you're not too busy to cook entire meals from scratch--which involves choosing quality ingredients and carefully monitoring the cooking process--but you're way too busy to pause for a couple seconds and decide which bin your refuse goes in?
Yep...I spend my daily limited time, shopping, cooking, working out, washing clothes, dishes, house, floors...yard..etc.
One less trivial thing to think about like sorting out garbage that can just be thrown out easily, is a no-brainer to me. Its worked perfectly in the past for me since being a kid, I see no compelling reason to think or act otherwise.
And if you cook everything from scratch, then what is so hard to separate? What raw ingredients come in so many different kinds of glass?
Well, not EVERY ingredient is from scratch....I do buy things like capers, olives, etc..they come in glass jars. I do enjoy softdrinks from time to time, and I try to buy in glass bottles rather than plastic when I can...and while I like to make pickles, I do often buy those too in the glass jar.
Even cooking meals from veggies/meats etc...you can generate plenty of garbage....enough for me not to want to have to sort through it all.
OH..not to mention the obvious thing for glass....BOOZE....I only buy my beer in glass (even when I homebrew, I bottle or keg)...and good single malt scotch doesn't come in plastic or a wine skin my friend.
If you tell a provider up front that you're not insured and you'll be paying in cash, they'll give you the same rate they give to insurance companies. But you do need to tell them up front.
I actually found that when I did this...the Dr or service (had an MRI) would automatically LOWER the price for me, to be less than what they'd charge someone with insurance.
I got a DISCOUNT for not having insurance, but paying in cash.
In the early 80's, my brother cut his knee quite badly. Mom took him to the family doctor office where they numbed him up, stitched the cut closed, and sent him home. Probably a $200 event in today's dollars.
Today? That would be an ambulance ride ($1000) to the hospital Emergency room ($3000), where an anesthesiologist ($2500) would administer the sedative ($500) while the surgeon on call ($2000) would stitch the cut with a couple of nurses ($1500) attending. Then they'd keep him overnight ($5000) for observation.
Err..I don't get it...why would not today do the same thing as in yesteryear. The mom take him to the family dr. and he'd do some stitches in office.
Where does the ambulance, ER, and hospital come into it and why?
Capitalism sucks. Communism sucks. That is why much of the world worked out long ago that you can pick bits from each, and combine them into something better than either.
I guess that's also the reason that much of EU like Greece is in the current fiscal shit hole too....
All those free entitlements, but finally, no one to actually work to pay for them...?
Hey, once they haul it away from my house they can pick through it and recycle whatever they want, but I'm not going to sort out my trash for this that and the other.
When I'm done with it...it is trash and I pay to have it hauled away. Once they have it...feel free to do with it as you please, but I don't have room around my place for sorting the shit out nor for creating and maintaining a compost heap for organic stuff.
Wow...got some tree huggers going out here, eh?
Seriously...not that many people CARE about all this stuff...yet, a few from the vocal minority try forcing these views on the majority.
When we talk about "mandatory" recycling or composting we are talking about one more bin to throw things in that the trash people will pick up. Is it really such and incredible #$%&ing inconvenience for you to throw plastic bottles into one container and food waste into another?
The trouble is...it ISN'T just an extra bin. They often want you to have a can for paper, one for glass, one for cans, one for plastic (hell, maybe two for clear vs colored)...and now, composte?
Screw it...I don't want multple smelly trash cans in every room of my house AND yard, that I have to take out on different days of the week for the different pickups.
Hey, if you want it in your city..fine...glad I don't have to put up with it in mine.
I know some places limit you to 1 bag of trash per week.
Geez, I"m single and I generate easily 4-6 bags of trash for pickup. Thankfully, they pick it up here twice a week.
Hell, for thanksgiving alone, I had nearly 8-10 large bags of trash I threw out...took two full cans easily....plus boxes from Xmas decorations sitting next to them on the curb.
Actually I"m saying that putting all my trash into one can in the house............then into one in the yard that gets dragged out twice weekly to be picked up with no more effort on my own...has worked for decades just fine.
No real motivating need to change that and put extra onus onto the general public.
IF volunteers wanna go through all that shit and sort and cycle through it...let them do it. It is a minority of people that give a crap about all this...so, let them pay for it and put in the effort.
Its trash...throw it out...like we always have done.
wow you're an asshole. You are basically saying "Fuck you" to the planet. You can't spend an extra 20 seconds throwing your banana peel into a composting bin instead of the garbage can?
Well, on that level...what the fuck do I care about the planet?
By the time it heats up and explodes or overruns with trash...I'll be long gone and dead. It isn't like anyone 100+ years from now will know it was me and curse my name.
. I mean my god.. when you eat a banana, you toss the peel into a different bin.
I dunno..I just don't want to have to take up valuabe space in my kitchen (and bathrooms) to have 3-5 different fucking smelly trash cans for every type of garbage...what are they...organic, glass, colored plastic, clear plastic...etc?
I mean...I open a package of meat...and trim it for cooking. And before I can even put meat to the heat, I have to separate the plastic wrap off the meat package in one can...meat trimmings in another and I dunno where the fuck I'd be putting the styrofoam type tray the meat was on...
Yes..PITA....and like I mentioned before...not only having multiple cans in my kitchen and other rooms..but also big ones in the yard, and having to haul them all out different days of the week?
The city I live in started recycling pickup a month or so ago, I just put the recyclables list up on the fridge. Problem fucking solved.
Yes, it is a pain in the ass.
I don't have room in my kitchen to keep 3-5 different garbage cans sitting there to keep everything separated. I have ONE can, when it gets full, I tie up the bag, and throw it into my outdoor can. Again..I don't really have room outside to keep multiple smelly garbage cans full of my discarded crap.
And no...I don't want to have to stop and think about what goes into what can when I'm busy cooking multiple things in the kitchen...I have limited time and I don't want to have to pause whenever I'm moving fast and think "which fucking can does this go into"?
If others want to take up valuable space inside and outside their house and put forth all this effort, fine...but don't require me to.
Hey, once they haul it away from my house they can pick through it and recycle whatever they want, but I'm not going to sort out my trash for this that and the other.
When I'm done with it...it is trash and I pay to have it hauled away. Once they have it...feel free to do with it as you please, but I don't have room around my place for sorting the shit out nor for creating and maintaining a compost heap for organic stuff.
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Actually, I *do* play by the rules. I've never lived anywhere that mandates recycling. I would fight if my living areas tried to mandate it.
Thankfully, in the US, we have different states and cities...so, we can live like we want to live.
I've also never lived where I have to have a *sniff* test on my car..so, I'm also free to mod my car pretty much any way I like....also unlike CA.
I agree...wish I had that type of access to good meat around here....
Hmm...well, of course, none of mine is recycling I just throw everything away.
And after thinking about it, this WAS a heavy week...I had forgotten to put the trash out last Sunday..so, I had a big bag and some pizza boxes in there...plus ALL the trash that thanksgiving generated ( food packages, wine, beer, liquor bottles, general trash, etc)...and no trash pickup on T-Day..so, by the next Sunday, I did have a stack of boxes and 2 trash cans full...total of about 5-6 LARGE bags.
Again, this was a special case now that I think on it.
But on normal weeks, my trash runs Monday and Thu (both at crack of dawn, so put out trash night before)..and I generally have 1-2 bags to pick up on Thur...and about 3 maybe 4 on Sunday pickup...due to having the weekend for partying, and I do all my cooking for the week on Sundays...
One thing to ask...do you eat out often? Do you entertain at home very much? I like to have friends over whenever possible. I cook most all of my meals and rarely eat out..therefore, most all food related garbage is generated at home, and not out at an eating establishment where other people deal with it.
I have no idea, I've never recycled anything. To me, it is all garbage and goes in one can.
I get ya..and I agree!!
Yep, back in the day they called it "major medical" and it was to only be used for catastrophic events. Routine thing were saved for and paid out of pocket, and prices were cheaper...people would Dr. shop.
I wish we could do more like this. I wish it was easier to set up a HSA (Health Savings Acct)...the NON-use it or lose it (vs FSA)...and let us sock back as much money as possible pre-tax, and use that to pay routine bills.
I mean, we save to pay for maintenance on our cars and homes, why not on ourselves?
It seems it should be obvious to the Feds to make this type program EASIER to get into and use...but no.....they want to complicate and bloat it all...and make it even more $$ and inefficient than it is now...
Why?
Ok...I'm having to laugh now.
You're actually insinuating that I WASH my trash, before disposing of it??
It would be comical if I didn't guess you were actually serious about it.
It reminds me of that old Phil Hartman skit on SNL, the "Anal Retentive Chef"...where he'd get nothing actually cooked due to having to do things like wash his trash, dry it, then triple wrap it in plastic, and staple in two paper bags one inside the other.
See? Thinking like this USED to actually be a joke...
Err...pretty much any normal US grocery store?
I dunno where you live where they actually have a butcher store in the old fashioned classic sense...but must be nice.
I've not see that type of butcher set up in well....decades.
Err...I have trash cans at least in:
Kitchen (heavy garbage generation)
2x Bathrooms
Office
So, now I need to have a bin for each type of garbage in each room..or are you saying that no matter where I am in the house..when I want to throw something away, I have to stop and run to whatever room as the bin for that particular bit of trash?
Sorry, way too big a PITA factor. There is no compelling reason for me to put myself out like that.
I also don't want to take up my yard space with 3+ of each type of trash can...I have 2 large one now...just for all garbage, so now...I need 6 of them..2 for each of 3+ types of garbage??
Screw it....again, why should I bother?
You know...life is short, and I'd much rather spend my time and effort on something that either earns me money or is fun to do.
I see no compelling reason to put myself out to go to the effort do to this, when it does not benefit me directly whatsoever.
Much easier to just toss everything out into the can and twice a week, pull it to the curb to have someone haul it off early, early the next morning.
Yep...I spend my daily limited time, shopping, cooking, working out, washing clothes, dishes, house, floors...yard..etc.
One less trivial thing to think about like sorting out garbage that can just be thrown out easily, is a no-brainer to me. Its worked perfectly in the past for me since being a kid, I see no compelling reason to think or act otherwise.
Well, not EVERY ingredient is from scratch....I do buy things like capers, olives, etc..they come in glass jars. I do enjoy softdrinks from time to time, and I try to buy in glass bottles rather than plastic when I can...and while I like to make pickles, I do often buy those too in the glass jar.
Even cooking meals from veggies/meats etc...you can generate plenty of garbage....enough for me not to want to have to sort through it all.
OH..not to mention the obvious thing for glass....BOOZE....I only buy my beer in glass (even when I homebrew, I bottle or keg)...and good single malt scotch doesn't come in plastic or a wine skin my friend.
I actually found that when I did this...the Dr or service (had an MRI) would automatically LOWER the price for me, to be less than what they'd charge someone with insurance.
I got a DISCOUNT for not having insurance, but paying in cash.
Err..I don't get it...why would not today do the same thing as in yesteryear. The mom take him to the family dr. and he'd do some stitches in office.
Where does the ambulance, ER, and hospital come into it and why?
I guess that's also the reason that much of EU like Greece is in the current fiscal shit hole too....
All those free entitlements, but finally, no one to actually work to pay for them...?
Never had RAmen noodles before...I cook pretty much everything with fresh ingredients from scratch.
Wow...got some tree huggers going out here, eh?
Seriously...not that many people CARE about all this stuff...yet, a few from the vocal minority try forcing these views on the majority.
Why?
I won't be around in 500 years to suffer for it, nor listen to anybody bitch about it if it all goes to hell.
What do I care?
I live for now...have the best time I can while I'm on my short ride in time here.
The trouble is...it ISN'T just an extra bin. They often want you to have a can for paper, one for glass, one for cans, one for plastic (hell, maybe two for clear vs colored)...and now, composte?
Screw it...I don't want multple smelly trash cans in every room of my house AND yard, that I have to take out on different days of the week for the different pickups.
Hey, if you want it in your city..fine...glad I don't have to put up with it in mine.
Geez, I"m single and I generate easily 4-6 bags of trash for pickup. Thankfully, they pick it up here twice a week.
Hell, for thanksgiving alone, I had nearly 8-10 large bags of trash I threw out...took two full cans easily....plus boxes from Xmas decorations sitting next to them on the curb.
No real motivating need to change that and put extra onus onto the general public.
IF volunteers wanna go through all that shit and sort and cycle through it...let them do it. It is a minority of people that give a crap about all this...so, let them pay for it and put in the effort.
Its trash...throw it out...like we always have done.
Well, on that level...what the fuck do I care about the planet?
By the time it heats up and explodes or overruns with trash...I'll be long gone and dead. It isn't like anyone 100+ years from now will know it was me and curse my name.
And even if they did...so what? I'll be dead...
I dunno..I just don't want to have to take up valuabe space in my kitchen (and bathrooms) to have 3-5 different fucking smelly trash cans for every type of garbage ...what are they...organic, glass, colored plastic, clear plastic...etc?
I mean...I open a package of meat...and trim it for cooking. And before I can even put meat to the heat, I have to separate the plastic wrap off the meat package in one can...meat trimmings in another and I dunno where the fuck I'd be putting the styrofoam type tray the meat was on...
Yes..PITA....and like I mentioned before...not only having multiple cans in my kitchen and other rooms..but also big ones in the yard, and having to haul them all out different days of the week?
No...not worth it to me.
Yes, it is a pain in the ass.
I don't have room in my kitchen to keep 3-5 different garbage cans sitting there to keep everything separated. I have ONE can, when it gets full, I tie up the bag, and throw it into my outdoor can. Again..I don't really have room outside to keep multiple smelly garbage cans full of my discarded crap.
And no...I don't want to have to stop and think about what goes into what can when I'm busy cooking multiple things in the kitchen...I have limited time and I don't want to have to pause whenever I'm moving fast and think "which fucking can does this go into"?
If others want to take up valuable space inside and outside their house and put forth all this effort, fine...but don't require me to.
I've never lived anywhere recycling is mandatory. I've never recycled a thing in my entire life.
And as for healthcare, no one goes without treatment, even if they don't pay for it themselves, like myself and most of us do.
Hey, once they haul it away from my house they can pick through it and recycle whatever they want, but I'm not going to sort out my trash for this that and the other.
When I'm done with it...it is trash and I pay to have it hauled away. Once they have it...feel free to do with it as you please, but I don't have room around my place for sorting the shit out nor for creating and maintaining a compost heap for organic stuff.