Computer science is a big field, although a lot of different areas involve some programming. In the business world programming is probably one of the widest used skills. Network and System administrators often automate common task st hrough programming as well.
That said, a lot of developers I have met have degrees in other things like Music, Mathematics, Physics, or even something completely unrelated like art (or even no degree). Though the more unrelated a degree is the harder it is to get your foot in the door. You have a degree in computer science, that degree involved a lot of math and problem solving. Other fields with strong math and a large amount of problem solving would also be a good fit.
In particular you could teach yourself accounting and get a job in the corporate accounting department. You could work as some type of analyst (not just business, but analyzing numbers). You may be able to get your door in at an insurance company or something and eventually after acquiring some business knowledge go for actuarial training. Basically it really depends what you like.
A lot of research papers in computer science involve very formal math and no programming at all. Others do possess programming behind them. But to get into the more theoretical aspects of computer science and research you really need a PhD. The typical CS jobs are those that have been enumerated already by others and they do tend to involve programming because automating things is where companies find a lot of value.
The thing to think about is how much you dislike programming. If you hate it, think about a PhD and going for a more theoretical side of computer science. Or think about getting into some other job. A Masters degree can often be used to change careers. And because computer science involves a lot of math, you can often change to a lot of the quantitative disciplines relatively easily because you have the background. So it may be something to think about. Also, often if you program well for a few years, you can get yourself into a non programming role (like management...MBA wouldn't hurt either).
Basically you got a degree in computer science, the think to do is ask yourself what you like and then try to use that to shape your career. If you are really excited by the theoretical stuff maybe you will want a PhD (although some research is pretty practical and contains quite a bit of programming, so you may have to forge your own path here too rather than getting thrown any which way). If you just like the math, maybe you want to do something non CS related or even data analysis (just analyzing a bunch of data from a SQL database in spreadsheets and stuff). Based on what you say about helping people, I'd say look into IT Support, higher level help desk people often make a decent salaries (the help desk manager at one of my employers seemed rather well off and she wasn't married).
I have seen jobs asking for image recognition software, neural networks, and data mining which to me all require pretty custom highly valued knowledge with similar bids.
Anyway I suspect the only way it becomes profitable for a US based developer is if you get clients to sign away a full featured license to anything you write to yourself, in addition to your own license. Then you can slowly build some type of software framework, and even though you are bidding $200 or $100 or $10 (I have seen $10 for a full featured J2EE website) by selling it to a bunch of people you make your money back with the work saved in working on the bid.
But I can't seem to find anything anywhere near realistic enough to try it!! Once I whipped up a Perl script for $25 to load a CSV file. Aside from that, most things are the full fledged websites or clones just like the bid you showed...super cheap.
You my friend are an absolute idiot. If every teacher assigned 1-2 hours of homework and a student has say 6 academic classes per day that comes to 12 hours of homework. Now if you are like me and had a bad time at say 11 PM and school is 7-2:15 and with bus ride and stuff you get home for say 2:45 that leaves only 7 hours awake. With 12 hours of homework per night there just isn't enough time. With 6 hours of homework per night, that gives me 1 hour to eat oh gee thank you. So I say you are an idiot. And your attitude that they are all wannabe texters is utterly disgraceful. Maybe they just want to live a life. They are kids and should be enjoying life. I'm not saying don't give them homework, but I'm saying your demands are unrealistic. Plus the school encourages extra curricular activities which even at 6 hours they would only have 1 hour for.
It is your job to teach kids. With 2 or even 1 hours of homework per night you are not teaching kids, you are making them detest your subject because you are a sadistic bastard. I mean what the heck. In college I probably had an hour of math homework per credit per week if even that, granted I did it faster than the average student...but in theory your AP students are faster than the average student as well. So that is only 3 hours of homework per week. If you have two hours of homework per night that is 10 hours of homework per week. Even one hour per night is 5 hours of homework per week. Something is severely wrong. The rough rule of thumb for the standard undergraduate student is two hours of work for each our in class, but I'm afraid that still comes to 6 hours per week for a 3 credit college class. So I think you should be fired and have absolutely no business teaching to kids. Your job is to teach, not overload them with homework. Some have jobs as well or participate in sports or other activities. So like I said you are an idiot and deserve people dropping like flies from your class.
If you are the only AP Calculus teacher then I am truly sorry for all the would be math students who thought they were interested in math but then had your class that killed their interest.
On the reverse no one should be doing all the homework for kids or assigning extra credit like candy. Tests should not necessarily be open book, although in a math class even open book doesn't help that much. If you can't do the problem then a text isn't going to help you. Generally you don't have enough time to learn to do the problems from scratch and to still finish the test. Generally time is tight on a math test and even if you know how to do all the problems you barely have time to double check everything. So open book doesn't help. I am divided on open book because the real world is open book. Scientists doing research, people at work, they all have books they refer to. The meta skill is the ability to read, understand what you read, and apply it. Just memorizing heaps of information is not of huge value. But on the other hand they do need to take away a general overview of the subjects. But generally when I had open book tests in the past, they were hard enough to compensate for the open book part, hard enough that I prefer closed book tests 10/10 times...
The reality is that there is a balance. You should teach to the average kid in your class. Those below the average fail out. Those above the average find themselves with "easy" A's. Presumably AP calculus is equivalent to either a 1st semester Calculus course in college or 1st and 2nd semester college Calculus course. Integration and Differentiation should not take 12 hours per week of homework.
High school teachers used to whine over and over about how college is hard work and you will be doing hundreds of hours of homework per night. But the reality is that in college you don't get that much homework. The only real difference is that unlike high school you are more in charge of your learning.
I have been using Python for about 2 years now and the space think still bothers me. It did not stop me from learning the language, and I still like the fact that it is much easier to read than Perl. However the white space thing bothers me. Many editors default to using either spaces or tabs for indentation. With Python I need to worry what the autoindent is doing. If I chose to indent with tabs, I have to make sure all my editors are using tabs, if I choose to indent with spaces, I have to make su re that all my editors are using spaces and the same number of spaces. It makes the code more consistent but it is a pain, especially when getting someone else's file. Then I need to worry whether they used spaces or tabs...it's a big mess. I like { and }.
Seriously there are a ton of books out there on memory training and it works. Back in college I read quite a few of them and tried out some of the mnemonic techniques and they worked wonders, I can still recall some of the nonsense lists almost 10 years later. Ultimately to get really good requires a lot of time an effort which I was not willing to put into it.
Some Books
Your Memory. How it works and how to improve it. -- Kenneth L Higbee -- One of the best books available on how the memory works as well as the mnemonic techniques
The Memory Book -- Harry Lorayne and Jerry Lucas -- pretty good book with a bunch of different techniques
Master Your Memory with Dr. Amazing: How not to Forget -- M Teitelbaum -- great book with many techniques not discussed in typical intro books on memory techniques
But as far as forgetting stuff, I noticed that I was forgetting left and right when I turned 23. The difference is that instead of just focusing on college or something else, I had a lot of shit going on in my life and was constantly distracted and that hurt my memory. Now it is even worse. I think as you get older and you have more of a life, you just are more distracted and a lot of stuff you just won't pay as much attention to to remember as much. I'll bet if you throw in kids forget it....
IF I don't want a Cap, what can I do? When the 1-3 service providers in each area provide caps, where can I go to get an uncapped connection? Isn't this cap and premium a sort of trust? If all the ISPs are agreeing to this (and obviously they are looking to each other as an example) and setting the same (or similar) caps, isn't this what a trust is under the laws, they are all fixing the price to ensure no matter where you go that you get a cap?
I particularly like "caps ranging from 20 to 150 gigabytes per month, depending on which service speed tier a customer signs up for (AT&T offers DSL tiers ranging from 768kbps to 6Mbps)."
If they were really doing caps to keep the internet faster for everyone because they cannot handle the traffic they would cap everyone at 150 GB. But no, they are shrinking the cap based on your connection. They want more people to hit to hit the cap so they can charge a premium. Otherwise people might just buy the less expensive connections so that they never hit their cap. I mean if they are capping me at 150 then I don't need 6 Mbps per month, I'm more likely to hit the cap, I would buy a slower link. But to stop me from doing that they are nice enough to lower the cap on slower connections to make sure I hit it. This is hardly fair.
Hey dear friend, read the fscking summary at least.... "The 1,400-pound object was deliberately jettisoned â" by hand â" from the ISS's robot arm in July 2007. " This item was deliberately jettisoned, not accidentally dropped like everything else....
Hope it doesn't fall on me! I mean this seems like a dangerous experiment, I hope NASA will pay if any property is damaged by this experiment since it is deliberate. I would think they are legally responsible if anyone dies or any property is damaged. Any lawyers in the thread?:)
True but you had to search for it. And there are all these different sites. And what are the chances of government agencies taking action based on reports on some or all of the sites? How do you know which ones the law enforcement will use and which they don't?
Why isn't there one site to report all child porn for the world (then you can have all the statistics in one place) and why isn't it advertised as much as the various laws relating to child porn? I mean why did you have to go searching? Why aren't there TV ads with one of these site addresses saying what to do if you stop it and to help stomp it out?
I'm not imposing morality just the laws. I don't want to go to jail:) Whether I agree with the laws or not is another issue. But as long as the laws are the law I have to be in compliance with them as much as possible unless I want to go to jail. The same applies to Marijuana/etc... In reality alcohol is probably more dangeorus than marijuana but unfortunately alcohol is legal and marijuana isn't. It doesn't matter what I agree with. If I am caught with marijuana I will go to jail.
NO, you're not thinking like a politician. If the government pays it is still taxpayer money. And if he pays a big ISP then the isp can contribute to his political platforms. For the little guys yeah the government could care less....but for the big guys it is advantageous to posture to them and get them on your side.
By the way here is the link http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/10/08/teen_charged_for_cell_phone_pics/ it seems that a naked human body under 18 IS child porn. At least in the US. So I guess that makes you guilty of looking at child porn if you look at those images. When I say I came across child porn by mistake I mean those images. I don't think I have ever come across children having sex (or if I have maybe they were close enough to 18 that they looked 18). But I don't think they need to be having sex for it to be child porn.
As far as I know if they are under 18 in the photo it is illegal. And in newsgroups it is a bigger issue. At least I think. I have been using the internet for about 15 years as well. And especially in the mid to late 1990s it was much easier to find unintended things on searches about completely unrelated things.
Enough that my high school had a policy where if you found such things you had to call a computer lab aid over who would check out what you were searching for. And then clear it. Otherwise you would be locked out if they found it by reading the logs.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/10/08/teen_charged_for_cell_phone_pics/ there is no mention of sex there. So I guess naked pictures are illegal at least in the US. So like I said, I would not want to be caught with any women under 18. I guess this also means under the laws you are illegally watching child porn.
I think child porn read naked picture without sex is shady enough that I would not want to have even that. Plus if there is any question as to if someone is 16 or 18 I would not want to have that either. There are 16 year olds who look 20. Just like there are 25 year olds who look 15. And quite frankly unless you can prove that 25 year old is really 25 I would not want to be caught with any of it. Not even nudist pictures at the beach. Not with the US government anyway (I think nude pictures of people under 18 are illegal. I seem to remember a case of a high school guy being arrested because his girlfriend sent him naked pictures on his cell phone).
Also in the mid and late 1990's it was a lot easier to websearch for one thing and come up with all sorts of nasty things. I remember in high school that if you ended up with a porn website you had to call the computer lab guys who would come to the computer and inspect and see what you were searching for. Otherwise it would hit their legs and when they found out they would lock you out (I'm not sure how they found out all, obviously some websites have obvious domain names but others do not. www.thisnormalwebsite.com/images/1.jpg is not super obvious.
Now this is way out of control. I mean I thought the whole thing about a backlash at Child Porn was to protect the children. By censoring the websites you are stopping the consumption of child porn. But how are you protecting the exploited children?
Instead of censoring the whole internet (which must be for some other agenda using Child Porn as an excuse to push censoring) why not focus more resources on finding and arresting the people who create child porn.
I don't mean the people who view it. Because honestly I have had child porn come up on the internet while searching for other things. I immediately close the site, but if you look at the logs I accessed the site. Also in some newsgroups there are tons of child porn pictures. If you say download all messages, even though you open a child porn and are like no and close it right away, it still says you downloaded it. Or even browsing, sometimes a message will have one title but in the end it shows someone young that maybe is 18 but maybe is not you just don't know. So anyway I close that message but I still accessed it. Should I be arrested? Probably not because I am not interested in child porn at all and I certainly don't want to go out and do anything with a child (as far as the difference between 17 and 364 days and 18 that is tougher call if you were looking at women in a bar, but if I knew they were 17 and 364 days I would wait the one day not to worry about some FBI raid:)).
What would be better would be if there is a way for me to report these things to the government authorities easily. In the end I'm sure a lot of people come across Child Porn searching for completely unrelated things, or even searching for adult porn. It seems a waste to not have a way to report these things for investigation. The problem with that is if they just look at every ip in the logs that accessed the site and go arrest everyone, they will arrest a lot of people who came to the website by mistake or who downloaded a newsgroup message by mistake. But if there was a way to report it and they closed down the makers that would be great. At some point there would be so little child porn that people would stop coming across it by accident (mostly). Because the makers of it would take steps to make it harder to find. And the good thing is that people actively looking for it would have a harder time as well....
Also from the way this guy seems so child porn phobic you would thing he was looking at child porn and because he feels guilty he decided he should help filter the internet so he doesn't have the temptation anymore. Usually the most vocal opponents against something actually do it. I remember quite a few Republicans who were very anti Clinton for his affair who ended up having affairs of their own.....And I don't even need to mention the various ministers in the church. Maybe someone needs to investigate this government minster. He sounds awfully anti-child porn, as if he is overly familiar with the problem.
Not just pr0n websites but gaming websites as well. My brother would get these horrendous spyware infections and it was all from various gaming websites he looked at with Internet Exploiter.
And actually some pr0n websites are clean it depends if you are going to the free info sites or subscription based sites. Not saying how I know that:)
Wow can you hire me. It took a year of complaining about a monitor that was blurry and flickery before I ended up with a 17 inch LCD display. And I didn't get the display because of complaining, I got it because the company got a good deal on displays for everyone.....
Even now I can't convince the manager to get me the tools I need to actually do the job (it is a MS shop and they are too cheap to even get proper licenses for SQL Server 2005 Developer edition [ultra cheap] so we have to dev for SQL Server 2000 and deploy on 2005 or use express where possible).
Your developers all have 20 inch displays and you are looking into X Box's. I'm sure they definitely have the tools they need to do their job. Sign me up!!!!!
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Computer science is a big field, although a lot of different areas involve some programming. In the business world programming is probably one of the widest used skills. Network and System administrators often automate common task st hrough programming as well.
That said, a lot of developers I have met have degrees in other things like Music, Mathematics, Physics, or even something completely unrelated like art (or even no degree). Though the more unrelated a degree is the harder it is to get your foot in the door. You have a degree in computer science, that degree involved a lot of math and problem solving. Other fields with strong math and a large amount of problem solving would also be a good fit.
In particular you could teach yourself accounting and get a job in the corporate accounting department. You could work as some type of analyst (not just business, but analyzing numbers). You may be able to get your door in at an insurance company or something and eventually after acquiring some business knowledge go for actuarial training. Basically it really depends what you like.
A lot of research papers in computer science involve very formal math and no programming at all. Others do possess programming behind them. But to get into the more theoretical aspects of computer science and research you really need a PhD. The typical CS jobs are those that have been enumerated already by others and they do tend to involve programming because automating things is where companies find a lot of value.
The thing to think about is how much you dislike programming. If you hate it, think about a PhD and going for a more theoretical side of computer science. Or think about getting into some other job. A Masters degree can often be used to change careers. And because computer science involves a lot of math, you can often change to a lot of the quantitative disciplines relatively easily because you have the background. So it may be something to think about. Also, often if you program well for a few years, you can get yourself into a non programming role (like management...MBA wouldn't hurt either).
Basically you got a degree in computer science, the think to do is ask yourself what you like and then try to use that to shape your career. If you are really excited by the theoretical stuff maybe you will want a PhD (although some research is pretty practical and contains quite a bit of programming, so you may have to forge your own path here too rather than getting thrown any which way). If you just like the math, maybe you want to do something non CS related or even data analysis (just analyzing a bunch of data from a SQL database in spreadsheets and stuff). Based on what you say about helping people, I'd say look into IT Support, higher level help desk people often make a decent salaries (the help desk manager at one of my employers seemed rather well off and she wasn't married).
I have seen jobs asking for image recognition software, neural networks, and data mining which to me all require pretty custom highly valued knowledge with similar bids.
Anyway I suspect the only way it becomes profitable for a US based developer is if you get clients to sign away a full featured license to anything you write to yourself, in addition to your own license. Then you can slowly build some type of software framework, and even though you are bidding $200 or $100 or $10 (I have seen $10 for a full featured J2EE website) by selling it to a bunch of people you make your money back with the work saved in working on the bid.
But I can't seem to find anything anywhere near realistic enough to try it!! Once I whipped up a Perl script for $25 to load a CSV file. Aside from that, most things are the full fledged websites or clones just like the bid you showed...super cheap.
Well I'm an idiot too, the old id-10-t error. I meant "bed time" not "bad time" at 11 PM...DOH
Also 11-3 = 8 hours but the argument still holds except you get 2 hours per night instead of one.
Just goes to show don't post comments late at night.
You my friend are an absolute idiot. If every teacher assigned 1-2 hours of homework and a student has say 6 academic classes per day that comes to 12 hours of homework. Now if you are like me and had a bad time at say 11 PM and school is 7-2:15 and with bus ride and stuff you get home for say 2:45 that leaves only 7 hours awake. With 12 hours of homework per night there just isn't enough time. With 6 hours of homework per night, that gives me 1 hour to eat oh gee thank you. So I say you are an idiot. And your attitude that they are all wannabe texters is utterly disgraceful. Maybe they just want to live a life. They are kids and should be enjoying life. I'm not saying don't give them homework, but I'm saying your demands are unrealistic. Plus the school encourages extra curricular activities which even at 6 hours they would only have 1 hour for.
It is your job to teach kids. With 2 or even 1 hours of homework per night you are not teaching kids, you are making them detest your subject because you are a sadistic bastard. I mean what the heck. In college I probably had an hour of math homework per credit per week if even that, granted I did it faster than the average student...but in theory your AP students are faster than the average student as well. So that is only 3 hours of homework per week. If you have two hours of homework per night that is 10 hours of homework per week. Even one hour per night is 5 hours of homework per week. Something is severely wrong. The rough rule of thumb for the standard undergraduate student is two hours of work for each our in class, but I'm afraid that still comes to 6 hours per week for a 3 credit college class. So I think you should be fired and have absolutely no business teaching to kids. Your job is to teach, not overload them with homework. Some have jobs as well or participate in sports or other activities. So like I said you are an idiot and deserve people dropping like flies from your class.
If you are the only AP Calculus teacher then I am truly sorry for all the would be math students who thought they were interested in math but then had your class that killed their interest.
On the reverse no one should be doing all the homework for kids or assigning extra credit like candy. Tests should not necessarily be open book, although in a math class even open book doesn't help that much. If you can't do the problem then a text isn't going to help you. Generally you don't have enough time to learn to do the problems from scratch and to still finish the test. Generally time is tight on a math test and even if you know how to do all the problems you barely have time to double check everything. So open book doesn't help. I am divided on open book because the real world is open book. Scientists doing research, people at work, they all have books they refer to. The meta skill is the ability to read, understand what you read, and apply it. Just memorizing heaps of information is not of huge value. But on the other hand they do need to take away a general overview of the subjects. But generally when I had open book tests in the past, they were hard enough to compensate for the open book part, hard enough that I prefer closed book tests 10/10 times...
The reality is that there is a balance. You should teach to the average kid in your class. Those below the average fail out. Those above the average find themselves with "easy" A's. Presumably AP calculus is equivalent to either a 1st semester Calculus course in college or 1st and 2nd semester college Calculus course. Integration and Differentiation should not take 12 hours per week of homework.
High school teachers used to whine over and over about how college is hard work and you will be doing hundreds of hours of homework per night. But the reality is that in college you don't get that much homework. The only real difference is that unlike high school you are more in charge of your learning.
Yeah get with the 21st century, nail guns are the way to go. Why smash a finger when you can drive a nail through your entire hand!!!
I have been using Python for about 2 years now and the space think still bothers me. It did not stop me from learning the language, and I still like the fact that it is much easier to read than Perl. However the white space thing bothers me. Many editors default to using either spaces or tabs for indentation. With Python I need to worry what the autoindent is doing. If I chose to indent with tabs, I have to make sure all my editors are using tabs, if I choose to indent with spaces, I have to make su re that all my editors are using spaces and the same number of spaces. It makes the code more consistent but it is a pain, especially when getting someone else's file. Then I need to worry whether they used spaces or tabs...it's a big mess. I like { and }.
Some Books
But as far as forgetting stuff, I noticed that I was forgetting left and right when I turned 23. The difference is that instead of just focusing on college or something else, I had a lot of shit going on in my life and was constantly distracted and that hurt my memory. Now it is even worse. I think as you get older and you have more of a life, you just are more distracted and a lot of stuff you just won't pay as much attention to to remember as much. I'll bet if you throw in kids forget it....
> What is a grue?
IF I don't want a Cap, what can I do? When the 1-3 service providers in each area provide caps, where can I go to get an uncapped connection? Isn't this cap and premium a sort of trust? If all the ISPs are agreeing to this (and obviously they are looking to each other as an example) and setting the same (or similar) caps, isn't this what a trust is under the laws, they are all fixing the price to ensure no matter where you go that you get a cap?
I particularly like "caps ranging from 20 to 150 gigabytes per month, depending on which service speed tier a customer signs up for (AT&T offers DSL tiers ranging from 768kbps to 6Mbps)." If they were really doing caps to keep the internet faster for everyone because they cannot handle the traffic they would cap everyone at 150 GB. But no, they are shrinking the cap based on your connection. They want more people to hit to hit the cap so they can charge a premium. Otherwise people might just buy the less expensive connections so that they never hit their cap. I mean if they are capping me at 150 then I don't need 6 Mbps per month, I'm more likely to hit the cap, I would buy a slower link. But to stop me from doing that they are nice enough to lower the cap on slower connections to make sure I hit it. This is hardly fair.
If the ISPs are going to bill this then they should make a way of viewing it through some web interface or something.
Why don't you bitch like a man and not post as anonymous coward?
Hey dear friend, read the fscking summary at least.... "The 1,400-pound object was deliberately jettisoned â" by hand â" from the ISS's robot arm in July 2007. " This item was deliberately jettisoned, not accidentally dropped like everything else....
Hope it doesn't fall on me! I mean this seems like a dangerous experiment, I hope NASA will pay if any property is damaged by this experiment since it is deliberate. I would think they are legally responsible if anyone dies or any property is damaged. Any lawyers in the thread? :)
True but you had to search for it. And there are all these different sites. And what are the chances of government agencies taking action based on reports on some or all of the sites? How do you know which ones the law enforcement will use and which they don't?
Why isn't there one site to report all child porn for the world (then you can have all the statistics in one place) and why isn't it advertised as much as the various laws relating to child porn? I mean why did you have to go searching? Why aren't there TV ads with one of these site addresses saying what to do if you stop it and to help stomp it out?
I'm not imposing morality just the laws. I don't want to go to jail :) Whether I agree with the laws or not is another issue. But as long as the laws are the law I have to be in compliance with them as much as possible unless I want to go to jail. The same applies to Marijuana/etc... In reality alcohol is probably more dangeorus than marijuana but unfortunately alcohol is legal and marijuana isn't. It doesn't matter what I agree with. If I am caught with marijuana I will go to jail.
NO, you're not thinking like a politician. If the government pays it is still taxpayer money. And if he pays a big ISP then the isp can contribute to his political platforms. For the little guys yeah the government could care less....but for the big guys it is advantageous to posture to them and get them on your side.
By the way here is the link http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/10/08/teen_charged_for_cell_phone_pics/ it seems that a naked human body under 18 IS child porn. At least in the US. So I guess that makes you guilty of looking at child porn if you look at those images. When I say I came across child porn by mistake I mean those images. I don't think I have ever come across children having sex (or if I have maybe they were close enough to 18 that they looked 18). But I don't think they need to be having sex for it to be child porn.
As far as I know if they are under 18 in the photo it is illegal. And in newsgroups it is a bigger issue. At least I think. I have been using the internet for about 15 years as well. And especially in the mid to late 1990s it was much easier to find unintended things on searches about completely unrelated things.
Enough that my high school had a policy where if you found such things you had to call a computer lab aid over who would check out what you were searching for. And then clear it. Otherwise you would be locked out if they found it by reading the logs.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/10/08/teen_charged_for_cell_phone_pics/ there is no mention of sex there. So I guess naked pictures are illegal at least in the US. So like I said, I would not want to be caught with any women under 18. I guess this also means under the laws you are illegally watching child porn.
I think child porn read naked picture without sex is shady enough that I would not want to have even that. Plus if there is any question as to if someone is 16 or 18 I would not want to have that either. There are 16 year olds who look 20. Just like there are 25 year olds who look 15. And quite frankly unless you can prove that 25 year old is really 25 I would not want to be caught with any of it. Not even nudist pictures at the beach. Not with the US government anyway (I think nude pictures of people under 18 are illegal. I seem to remember a case of a high school guy being arrested because his girlfriend sent him naked pictures on his cell phone).
Also in the mid and late 1990's it was a lot easier to websearch for one thing and come up with all sorts of nasty things. I remember in high school that if you ended up with a porn website you had to call the computer lab guys who would come to the computer and inspect and see what you were searching for. Otherwise it would hit their legs and when they found out they would lock you out (I'm not sure how they found out all, obviously some websites have obvious domain names but others do not. www.thisnormalwebsite.com/images/1.jpg is not super obvious.
I was thinking the same thing and also something else.
1. He's gonna pay a vendor a fortune to implement the filtering. And that is the motivation.
2. Child porn is phase 1, music and movies are phase 2...you can see where that is going....warez and microsoft windows phase 3......
Now this is way out of control. I mean I thought the whole thing about a backlash at Child Porn was to protect the children. By censoring the websites you are stopping the consumption of child porn. But how are you protecting the exploited children?
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Instead of censoring the whole internet (which must be for some other agenda using Child Porn as an excuse to push censoring) why not focus more resources on finding and arresting the people who create child porn.
I don't mean the people who view it. Because honestly I have had child porn come up on the internet while searching for other things. I immediately close the site, but if you look at the logs I accessed the site. Also in some newsgroups there are tons of child porn pictures. If you say download all messages, even though you open a child porn and are like no and close it right away, it still says you downloaded it. Or even browsing, sometimes a message will have one title but in the end it shows someone young that maybe is 18 but maybe is not you just don't know. So anyway I close that message but I still accessed it. Should I be arrested? Probably not because I am not interested in child porn at all and I certainly don't want to go out and do anything with a child (as far as the difference between 17 and 364 days and 18 that is tougher call if you were looking at women in a bar, but if I knew they were 17 and 364 days I would wait the one day not to worry about some FBI raid
What would be better would be if there is a way for me to report these things to the government authorities easily. In the end I'm sure a lot of people come across Child Porn searching for completely unrelated things, or even searching for adult porn. It seems a waste to not have a way to report these things for investigation. The problem with that is if they just look at every ip in the logs that accessed the site and go arrest everyone, they will arrest a lot of people who came to the website by mistake or who downloaded a newsgroup message by mistake. But if there was a way to report it and they closed down the makers that would be great. At some point there would be so little child porn that people would stop coming across it by accident (mostly). Because the makers of it would take steps to make it harder to find. And the good thing is that people actively looking for it would have a harder time as well....
Also from the way this guy seems so child porn phobic you would thing he was looking at child porn and because he feels guilty he decided he should help filter the internet so he doesn't have the temptation anymore. Usually the most vocal opponents against something actually do it. I remember quite a few Republicans who were very anti Clinton for his affair who ended up having affairs of their own.....And I don't even need to mention the various ministers in the church. Maybe someone needs to investigate this government minster. He sounds awfully anti-child porn, as if he is overly familiar with the problem.
Not just pr0n websites but gaming websites as well. My brother would get these horrendous spyware infections and it was all from various gaming websites he looked at with Internet Exploiter.
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And actually some pr0n websites are clean it depends if you are going to the free info sites or subscription based sites. Not saying how I know that
Wow can you hire me. It took a year of complaining about a monitor that was blurry and flickery before I ended up with a 17 inch LCD display. And I didn't get the display because of complaining, I got it because the company got a good deal on displays for everyone.....
Even now I can't convince the manager to get me the tools I need to actually do the job (it is a MS shop and they are too cheap to even get proper licenses for SQL Server 2005 Developer edition [ultra cheap] so we have to dev for SQL Server 2000 and deploy on 2005 or use express where possible).
Your developers all have 20 inch displays and you are looking into X Box's. I'm sure they definitely have the tools they need to do their job. Sign me up!!!!!
AT&T used to have this policy but after it was bought out by Cingular it went away. Now that AT&T is back together the policy is nowhere to be seen.