what does legality have to do with anything? seriously, who cares if its legal?
My idea of legitimate is delivering the product I purchased in accord with the description and without tricks or low quality.
Any of the first ten results on google fit that bill. Hell of them are in US. Yes they require you to have a script, says so right on the page. But they don't require you prove it via contact info or fax, the only 'proof' required is to input it.
Those cheap medical devices are cheap because they are old designs or because they are a slightly new spin on the old design so cheap to approve and can be sold in massive quantities.
I doubt it. Opticians are using equipment right out of the 50's and the accuracy is based on your subjective feedback.
There is automated equipment that shines light into the eye and measures its response while flipping lenses (they use this for prescriptions in the military). This works but it is arguably less accurate than the manual system.
delicate equipment? You mean that big heavy metal contraption built on 1950s precision technology that has levers and lets a doctor manually flip lenses while he repeatedly asks "better or worse" and then "better or just smaller" ones he homes in?
They can do the same thing with a box full of lenses at different strengths.
A doctor with a lasik machine and the app could fix the eyes of a lot more people.
Makes you wonder, if an open non-fda approved lasik system/laser flap cutter were built with easy to use software how much would it really need to cost?
These days the doctor doesn't really need to do much the software/hardware does the actual correction.
"It was all part of the ActiveContent/ActiveDesktop idea that Microsoft was working with at the time. "
An idea thats only purpose was to tie the browser to the desktop. The IE 5 Active desktop was horrible in 95b as well.
"But to claim that they *only* worked on it so that, years in the future, they could have some critical piece of testimony to use in a trial that hadn't even started yet?"
Years in the future? With the release of 98 they were already making the claim. Not for the sake of courts... yet. But to justify the forced integration to the technically inclined consumers.
This went hand in hand with other claims aimed at this group, like that windows was now a "true" gui without DOS. Amusingly this is a claim they made for 95, 98, and ME.
Additionally, the beginnings of the messy and humiliating trial you refer to began with a lawsuit that wasn't far behind the release of win98. It just took years before it culminated.
"It was true when they said it, about Windows 98. Windows 98 couldn't (for all practical purposes) be run without IE-- even drawing the desktop depended on it."
That argument would be more convincing if Windows 98 hadn't been made that way for the purpose of making the argument in the first place.
If you had dated any real women you'd realize that they are all psychotic bitches. If they aren't psychotic bitches then the only explanation is that they are sucking your buddy tom's dick every weekend.
The problem isn't that he is im'ing an ex, or even that you assume that means hes cheating. The issue that she considers him having sex with other girls a problem.
"As for the moral issue, it's far more ethical to experiment on adults that have given informed consent than on children who are too young to give meaningful consent."
I can not grant this point. There are children who are better decision makers than many adults.
I wasn't really responding to your post content so much as the general 'save the children' hyperbole being attached to this story. The implication is that this is issue is more important than others because it could harm children vs harm adults.
"Ok, it's poor design- but there is no alternatives to date that would allow a better design."
Yes there is. Competition is a better design. Smaller organizations without employee or investor indemnification and that are not treated as if they are human beings.
Yes, there is a certain scale required to produce something like an automobile but that scale is far below the scale of the major manufacturers we have now. There is easily enough demand for there to be a smaller organization being supported on two or three vehicles in every state.
"Take the Toyota accelerator problems, the decision to use those and not replace them wasn't made by one person, it was made by hundreds of people on separate occasions after the opinions from hundreds of others conducting tests influenced them."
This is false. As a supervisor I have about 12 employees under me. They in turn make decisions that ultimate branch out to impact thousands of users across hundreds of organizations and those are almost all fortune 1000 organizations.
If I give my employees a directive they don't have a choice about it. The don't have the opportunity to employee the reasoning, ideals, and morals of a human being. They are functioning as a company x machine following the instructions I have programmed.
I in turn do not have the luxury of employing my values when making those decisions. I have to follow the directives of my superiors and company policy. At the end of the day if there is a mistake we are required to hide that mistake to increase profits. The only time it would be otherwise were if it were my company and I were personally liable for my actions... like I would be anywhere other than work.
Toyota may or may not have known about the issue. Likely things at Toyota are setup in such a way that any problem hunting being done is focused on profit affecting problems. If they did know about the problem they weighed the likelihood of anyone catching them vs profit. All of this was done not by weighing against personal values but by weighing against their legal obligations to the shareholders.
If you make that a press release stating a release date in the near future and make it a public statement rather than a private professional courtesy you might be right.
We are talking about their competition. They went a long way down the road with this, they are only breaking even by letting their competitor spend as much going down the wrong path as possible.
Doing otherwise would be like telling a boxing competitor he keeps dropping his left. There may be a moral obligation to release the information before it hits the shelves to prevent people from being harmed but any other damage is to the competitor and it is only good strategy to inflict as much as possible.
There is no what else to do hence the "otherwise you'll end up with a generation of self centered teens with no respect for anyone" he mentioned. This happened in case you didn't notice.
bah your class action will never reach court. It will be settled. They might pay 50 mil (40 mil of that to lawyers the rest divided among the 200 million class members). That is just the cost of doing business. After all they have been selling the product for 5-10yrs they will have raked in billions so the 50 mil is chump change.
Proving that Sega did the right thing. They made their competitors pay for this research themselves. It isn't as if a toy company (including electronic toy) isn't going to pay to test a product before releasing it.
Hurting adults is one thing but good luck getting a jury without any mommies or daddies on it come lawsuit time.
And what is with this insane idea that it is somehow better or worse if the harm happened to adults vs children. People are people no matter what mamma thinks.
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what does legality have to do with anything? seriously, who cares if its legal?
My idea of legitimate is delivering the product I purchased in accord with the description and without tricks or low quality.
Any of the first ten results on google fit that bill. Hell of them are in US. Yes they require you to have a script, says so right on the page. But they don't require you prove it via contact info or fax, the only 'proof' required is to input it.
http://www.justlenses.com/
Seriously, how hard is this? They don't require you to show the prescription you just punch in the numbers.
try buying disposables online or cheap chinese import glasses
Those cheap medical devices are cheap because they are old designs or because they are a slightly new spin on the old design so cheap to approve and can be sold in massive quantities.
and erectile dysfunction. That will guarantee you a successful product.
I doubt it. Opticians are using equipment right out of the 50's and the accuracy is based on your subjective feedback.
There is automated equipment that shines light into the eye and measures its response while flipping lenses (they use this for prescriptions in the military). This works but it is arguably less accurate than the manual system.
delicate equipment? You mean that big heavy metal contraption built on 1950s precision technology that has levers and lets a doctor manually flip lenses while he repeatedly asks "better or worse" and then "better or just smaller" ones he homes in?
They can do the same thing with a box full of lenses at different strengths.
A doctor with a lasik machine and the app could fix the eyes of a lot more people.
Makes you wonder, if an open non-fda approved lasik system/laser flap cutter were built with easy to use software how much would it really need to cost?
These days the doctor doesn't really need to do much the software/hardware does the actual correction.
The game is a great idea. I suggested a similar game concept to someone on Evony maybe a year ago. Props on building it, I look forward to playing.
I think he meant gpu accelerated vs calculating all those lines and changes with the cpu and then sending the commands to draw them.
"It was all part of the ActiveContent/ActiveDesktop idea that Microsoft was working with at the time. "
An idea thats only purpose was to tie the browser to the desktop. The IE 5 Active desktop was horrible in 95b as well.
"But to claim that they *only* worked on it so that, years in the future, they could have some critical piece of testimony to use in a trial that hadn't even started yet?"
Years in the future? With the release of 98 they were already making the claim. Not for the sake of courts... yet. But to justify the forced integration to the technically inclined consumers.
This went hand in hand with other claims aimed at this group, like that windows was now a "true" gui without DOS. Amusingly this is a claim they made for 95, 98, and ME.
Additionally, the beginnings of the messy and humiliating trial you refer to began with a lawsuit that wasn't far behind the release of win98. It just took years before it culminated.
"It was true when they said it, about Windows 98. Windows 98 couldn't (for all practical purposes) be run without IE-- even drawing the desktop depended on it."
That argument would be more convincing if Windows 98 hadn't been made that way for the purpose of making the argument in the first place.
The people who are most likely to want your password are those who would have opportunity to get physical access to keys/desk/drawers/etc.
The chances of a complete anonymous stranger actually sniffing your encrypted password and brute forcing it are actually pretty slim.
I take it you are single? In what world do any women hit a better than 60% logical statement rate?
If you had dated any real women you'd realize that they are all psychotic bitches. If they aren't psychotic bitches then the only explanation is that they are sucking your buddy tom's dick every weekend.
The problem isn't that he is im'ing an ex, or even that you assume that means hes cheating. The issue that she considers him having sex with other girls a problem.
It's just sex it doesn't imply any attachment.
Unfortunately I know all too well. I have a vps server, in the US, with an unmetered 100Mbps connection that runs me $20 a month.
At home I have a 6Mbps connection comcast (they hype these up to sound like faster links by advertising their 16 or 20Mbps speedbooster feature).
Point granted on children under 7.
"As for the moral issue, it's far more ethical to experiment on adults that have given informed consent than on children who are too young to give meaningful consent."
I can not grant this point. There are children who are better decision makers than many adults.
I wasn't really responding to your post content so much as the general 'save the children' hyperbole being attached to this story. The implication is that this is issue is more important than others because it could harm children vs harm adults.
"Ok, it's poor design- but there is no alternatives to date that would allow a better design."
Yes there is. Competition is a better design. Smaller organizations without employee or investor indemnification and that are not treated as if they are human beings.
Yes, there is a certain scale required to produce something like an automobile but that scale is far below the scale of the major manufacturers we have now. There is easily enough demand for there to be a smaller organization being supported on two or three vehicles in every state.
"Take the Toyota accelerator problems, the decision to use those and not replace them wasn't made by one person, it was made by hundreds of people on separate occasions after the opinions from hundreds of others conducting tests influenced them."
This is false. As a supervisor I have about 12 employees under me. They in turn make decisions that ultimate branch out to impact thousands of users across hundreds of organizations and those are almost all fortune 1000 organizations.
If I give my employees a directive they don't have a choice about it. The don't have the opportunity to employee the reasoning, ideals, and morals of a human being. They are functioning as a company x machine following the instructions I have programmed.
I in turn do not have the luxury of employing my values when making those decisions. I have to follow the directives of my superiors and company policy. At the end of the day if there is a mistake we are required to hide that mistake to increase profits. The only time it would be otherwise were if it were my company and I were personally liable for my actions... like I would be anywhere other than work.
Toyota may or may not have known about the issue. Likely things at Toyota are setup in such a way that any problem hunting being done is focused on profit affecting problems. If they did know about the problem they weighed the likelihood of anyone catching them vs profit. All of this was done not by weighing against personal values but by weighing against their legal obligations to the shareholders.
If you make that a press release stating a release date in the near future and make it a public statement rather than a private professional courtesy you might be right.
We are talking about their competition. They went a long way down the road with this, they are only breaking even by letting their competitor spend as much going down the wrong path as possible.
Doing otherwise would be like telling a boxing competitor he keeps dropping his left. There may be a moral obligation to release the information before it hits the shelves to prevent people from being harmed but any other damage is to the competitor and it is only good strategy to inflict as much as possible.
There is no what else to do hence the "otherwise you'll end up with a generation of self centered teens with no respect for anyone" he mentioned. This happened in case you didn't notice.
bah your class action will never reach court. It will be settled. They might pay 50 mil (40 mil of that to lawyers the rest divided among the 200 million class members). That is just the cost of doing business. After all they have been selling the product for 5-10yrs they will have raked in billions so the 50 mil is chump change.
Proving that Sega did the right thing. They made their competitors pay for this research themselves. It isn't as if a toy company (including electronic toy) isn't going to pay to test a product before releasing it.
Hurting adults is one thing but good luck getting a jury without any mommies or daddies on it come lawsuit time.
And what is with this insane idea that it is somehow better or worse if the harm happened to adults vs children. People are people no matter what mamma thinks.
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