GNU is NOT a part of the OS whatsoever. the OS is Linux. It's composed of a group of components that form an OS/Kernel. GNU software is neither essential, nor part of the OS.
The only relation GNU has with linux is that Linus choose to use their license (with modification) and there is GNU software commonly bundled with it.
And that somehow entitles the FSF to usurp the work of another project? One of the reasons for not counting application programs as part of the OS but rather as part of the distribution is that you can replace them.
As I said elsewhere if the FSF wants credit they need to try to get it from those who are bundling their tools along with the Linux OS rather than trying to change the name of the OS.
"It's only with copyrights where 'poisoning' may (or might not) apply (thus clean room implementations of software)."
This is false. The danger is the same with patents that it is with copyrights. The reason for a cleanroom implementation isn't that I might directly copy something of yours into my own, it's that without realizing I might prejudice my own thinking toward your implementation.
In the case of a patent the problem is the same. If you've never seen sun's solution to file locking and are unaware of how it works, you're probably going to come up with a solution which is more distinct from it when you solve that problem in a clean room and therefore more likely to avoid the patent.
If you use an open source encoder the license is NOT being passed on. Open source encoders are there for individuals who have paid the license fee (if you've ever bought an encoder, your good) or who live in a country that doesn't have software patents.
Re:Sounds like a piracy crackdown, not a ban.
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I don't know about FIFA but the Sims is a simulation of life in a properous society. It's modeled after life in the US. If you start showing people in China these things, they might start to want them and that could ultimately lead to demanding them.
Small to mid-sized companies may or may not even have ONE inhouse Technician. They often hire 3rd party tech consultants only, or perhaps in combination with one inhouse administrator. This gives them the price of one set of hands onsite and the expertise of a whole team of techs.
This is false, read the GPL, it requires only that the rights granted under the GPL be made available when you redistribute. The GPL allows for redistributing under a less restrictive license.
Umm GPL code requires it to remain copyrighted in any form thereafter as well. If the code were not copyrighted you'd lose your right to enforce the GPL!
The problem isn't the license, the license would allow you to incorporate the code in a GPL project (the GPL wouldn't allow you to incorporate GPL code into a CDDL project though), the problem is the patents. Sun has only opened them to CDDL licensed projects.
"but in the sense it's now being opened, it has never really been open"
The point is that if you look at it your poisoned. there is then a chance of incorporating something you've seen in another project and violating Sun's patents (they've only opened them to CDDL projects).
The license isn't GPL incompatible, the problem is the patents.
Technically the license is GPL incompatible but not the direction that matters. You can't incorporate GPL'd code into a CDDL project, but you could certainly go the other way. The problem comes in with the patents which Sun has only guaranteed won't be leveraged against projects using the CDDL license.
P.S. The philosophy is more important than law. Open source does not count as free software.
"But not for anyone that needs reliability and support."
Small to mid-sized business needs reliability and support and for them a $10k price gap on every piece of hardware is a VERY significant issue.
It seems like that is the problem sometimes, everyone seems to be marketing to fortune 500's or to home users. They ignore the fact that 90% of those purchasing hardware fall somewhere inbetween.
If Sun reserves the right to enforce the patents against users of licenses other than the CDDL you'd better not fork it under a better license or use it in another project under a compatible license.
It's encumbered with Patents and a license which makes it non-free software.
Re:What the parent said, without the flying spittl
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I would agree that any monoculture is bad. The thing you and those who share your view are missing is that of all those in your list, linux is the only one which is NOT a monoculture.
Just because it's all labeled linux doesn't mean it's all the same. If there are two opposing camps who disagree on how a component is best designed BOTH will be written and available for compilation. There isn't one linux, there are hundreds of linuxes. It may have the same name, but the linux you run on a wristwatch is NOT the same linux you run on an IBM mainframe.
I'm not even talking about miscarriages. I'm talking about menstration. Simply because the egg is fertilized doesn't mean menstration never happens. Most fertilized eggs land on a tampon. And yes, the body does intend to expel them (which you call killing).
Even with miscarriages if we follow your definition we should be charging women with 2nd degree murder.
"And this is about human life - trying to equate human life with any plant or animal life is utterly ridiculous."
And your basis for this claim is? Let me guess, it is either "it just is, if you can't see that your blind" or "I believe in a special magic part of me that makes me unique and magical called a soul". Please, shock me, come up with something that is backed by fact or evidence that humans are something more than ONE of the more intelligent creatures on the planet who also happen to be manually capable.
"And last time I mowed, the grass stayed alive and grew back..."
Did the part you cut off survive? And are you confident each blade survived? What about the last time you swatted a fly, did it live? Ever wash your hands with anti-bacterial soap?
I bet the part of the grass you cut off didn't make it, instead it broke down and helped the rest of the grass (or any other nearby plants) survive and live longer and healthier. The part of the mother they cut off when they perform an abortion does the same.
"At conception, a new living organism is created that has a DNA sequence different from either parent"
So does every sperm and every egg. Really we should outlaw premature ejaculation, masterbation, and menstration. Technically eggs and sperm are living human organisms you know.
"Sorry - all of your points are invalid (like the rest of liberalism and secular humanism is...)."
Welcome to the real world. And please, if you respond at least attempt to up with at least one example of valid logic or something more substantial than "nuh uh".
You need to look at how much Firefox usage has grown since the first of the recent recommendations by US Cert to switch browsers compared to the last several years. And last I checked 3% of the browser market IS droves by any standard, it's also the lowest number I've seen. When your talking about a crowd the size of the browser market 1% is a HUGE variation.
"which kind of contradicts itself."
In what manner? Exactly what in my post actually contradicts myself.
"your patronizing attitude ("ignorant masses"?)"
I fail to see anything patronizing about refering to the ignorant masses. When it comes to neuro-surgery most are ignorant, I don't find that there is anything offensive about being included as part of the "ignorant masses" when a neuro-surgeon refers to them in relation to their knowledge of brain surgery. I am quite frankly ignorant of that subject, I've studied very little on the topic.
Ignorance and stupidity are two entirely different things, but we should never forget the primary reason for prolonged ignorance of known subject matter that is a part of your daily life is stupidity.
Perhaps they realized that at this point everyone knows they are slime it hasn't hurt their profit margins a bit. Spending money on lawyers to defend percieved honor that they don't have would hurt their profit margins however.
Life is not the issue. When you mow your lawn your mass murdering if you believe it's about life. It's about when it becomes human, specifically when it becomes an individual human.
If you believe that fertilized eggs are human individuals then you believe that the body itself is the biggest murderer since it aborts far more fertizilized eggs than it lets be born. The number of abortions performed by womens bodies dwarfs what the clinics do.
It's simple, once born we are human beings and a sack of cells can be called a baby. Inside the womb we call it a sack of cells.
If you want to know the real truth the only reason we are willing to acknowledge the term baby after birth is due to bleeding hearts who believe that *gasp* their own species is special and unique when the truth is that at no age does it become more than a sack of genetic material. Slugs are sacks of genetic material, Dolphins are sacks of genetic material, and humans are sacks of genetic material.
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GNU is NOT a part of the OS whatsoever. the OS is Linux. It's composed of a group of components that form an OS/Kernel. GNU software is neither essential, nor part of the OS.
The only relation GNU has with linux is that Linus choose to use their license (with modification) and there is GNU software commonly bundled with it.
And that somehow entitles the FSF to usurp the work of another project? One of the reasons for not counting application programs as part of the OS but rather as part of the distribution is that you can replace them.
As I said elsewhere if the FSF wants credit they need to try to get it from those who are bundling their tools along with the Linux OS rather than trying to change the name of the OS.
"It's only with copyrights where 'poisoning' may (or might not) apply (thus clean room implementations of software)."
This is false. The danger is the same with patents that it is with copyrights. The reason for a cleanroom implementation isn't that I might directly copy something of yours into my own, it's that without realizing I might prejudice my own thinking toward your implementation.
In the case of a patent the problem is the same. If you've never seen sun's solution to file locking and are unaware of how it works, you're probably going to come up with a solution which is more distinct from it when you solve that problem in a clean room and therefore more likely to avoid the patent.
If you use an open source encoder the license is NOT being passed on. Open source encoders are there for individuals who have paid the license fee (if you've ever bought an encoder, your good) or who live in a country that doesn't have software patents.
I don't know about FIFA but the Sims is a simulation of life in a properous society. It's modeled after life in the US. If you start showing people in China these things, they might start to want them and that could ultimately lead to demanding them.
They are paid for their work, in various ways, not the least of which is free code from their fellow developers.
With luck Speakeasy will pay them with some free code as well.
The GPL can be used under a compatible license. The CDDL allows this as well, but Sun's patents do not.
Small to mid-sized companies may or may not even have ONE inhouse Technician. They often hire 3rd party tech consultants only, or perhaps in combination with one inhouse administrator. This gives them the price of one set of hands onsite and the expertise of a whole team of techs.
This is false, read the GPL, it requires only that the rights granted under the GPL be made available when you redistribute. The GPL allows for redistributing under a less restrictive license.
Umm GPL code requires it to remain copyrighted in any form thereafter as well. If the code were not copyrighted you'd lose your right to enforce the GPL!
The problem isn't the license, the license would allow you to incorporate the code in a GPL project (the GPL wouldn't allow you to incorporate GPL code into a CDDL project though), the problem is the patents. Sun has only opened them to CDDL licensed projects.
"but in the sense it's now being opened, it has never really been open"
The point is that if you look at it your poisoned. there is then a chance of incorporating something you've seen in another project and violating Sun's patents (they've only opened them to CDDL projects).
The license isn't GPL incompatible, the problem is the patents.
Technically the license is GPL incompatible but not the direction that matters. You can't incorporate GPL'd code into a CDDL project, but you could certainly go the other way. The problem comes in with the patents which Sun has only guaranteed won't be leveraged against projects using the CDDL license.
P.S. The philosophy is more important than law. Open source does not count as free software.
You can agrue semantics, the point is that this code cannot be used in a free software project.
"But not for anyone that needs reliability and support."
Small to mid-sized business needs reliability and support and for them a $10k price gap on every piece of hardware is a VERY significant issue.
It seems like that is the problem sometimes, everyone seems to be marketing to fortune 500's or to home users. They ignore the fact that 90% of those purchasing hardware fall somewhere inbetween.
Sun reserves the right to enforce the patents if you use code under a different license.
Although the terms of the license would allow you to fork under the gpl or contribute to a gpl'd project sun could still nail you with the patents.
If Sun reserves the right to enforce the patents against users of licenses other than the CDDL you'd better not fork it under a better license or use it in another project under a compatible license.
It's encumbered with Patents and a license which makes it non-free software.
I would agree that any monoculture is bad. The thing you and those who share your view are missing is that of all those in your list, linux is the only one which is NOT a monoculture.
Just because it's all labeled linux doesn't mean it's all the same. If there are two opposing camps who disagree on how a component is best designed BOTH will be written and available for compilation. There isn't one linux, there are hundreds of linuxes. It may have the same name, but the linux you run on a wristwatch is NOT the same linux you run on an IBM mainframe.
"I recently went overboard on securing my information"
"as secure as Windows XP can be"
These are mutually exclusive.
I'm not even talking about miscarriages. I'm talking about menstration. Simply because the egg is fertilized doesn't mean menstration never happens. Most fertilized eggs land on a tampon. And yes, the body does intend to expel them (which you call killing).
Even with miscarriages if we follow your definition we should be charging women with 2nd degree murder.
"And this is about human life - trying to equate human life with any plant or animal life is utterly ridiculous."
And your basis for this claim is? Let me guess, it is either "it just is, if you can't see that your blind" or "I believe in a special magic part of me that makes me unique and magical called a soul". Please, shock me, come up with something that is backed by fact or evidence that humans are something more than ONE of the more intelligent creatures on the planet who also happen to be manually capable.
"And last time I mowed, the grass stayed alive and grew back..."
Did the part you cut off survive? And are you confident each blade survived? What about the last time you swatted a fly, did it live? Ever wash your hands with anti-bacterial soap?
I bet the part of the grass you cut off didn't make it, instead it broke down and helped the rest of the grass (or any other nearby plants) survive and live longer and healthier. The part of the mother they cut off when they perform an abortion does the same.
"At conception, a new living organism is created that has a DNA sequence different from either parent"
So does every sperm and every egg. Really we should outlaw premature ejaculation, masterbation, and menstration. Technically eggs and sperm are living human organisms you know.
"Sorry - all of your points are invalid (like the rest of liberalism and secular humanism is...)."
Welcome to the real world. And please, if you respond at least attempt to up with at least one example of valid logic or something more substantial than "nuh uh".
You need to look at how much Firefox usage has grown since the first of the recent recommendations by US Cert to switch browsers compared to the last several years. And last I checked 3% of the browser market IS droves by any standard, it's also the lowest number I've seen. When your talking about a crowd the size of the browser market 1% is a HUGE variation.
"which kind of contradicts itself."
In what manner? Exactly what in my post actually contradicts myself.
"your patronizing attitude ("ignorant masses"?)"
I fail to see anything patronizing about refering to the ignorant masses. When it comes to neuro-surgery most are ignorant, I don't find that there is anything offensive about being included as part of the "ignorant masses" when a neuro-surgeon refers to them in relation to their knowledge of brain surgery. I am quite frankly ignorant of that subject, I've studied very little on the topic.
Ignorance and stupidity are two entirely different things, but we should never forget the primary reason for prolonged ignorance of known subject matter that is a part of your daily life is stupidity.
Perhaps they realized that at this point everyone knows they are slime it hasn't hurt their profit margins a bit. Spending money on lawyers to defend percieved honor that they don't have would hurt their profit margins however.
At least 5 others had posted this before this comment. 4 of those should have been modded redundant as well.
Life is not the issue. When you mow your lawn your mass murdering if you believe it's about life. It's about when it becomes human, specifically when it becomes an individual human.
If you believe that fertilized eggs are human individuals then you believe that the body itself is the biggest murderer since it aborts far more fertizilized eggs than it lets be born. The number of abortions performed by womens bodies dwarfs what the clinics do.
It's simple, once born we are human beings and a sack of cells can be called a baby. Inside the womb we call it a sack of cells.
If you want to know the real truth the only reason we are willing to acknowledge the term baby after birth is due to bleeding hearts who believe that *gasp* their own species is special and unique when the truth is that at no age does it become more than a sack of genetic material. Slugs are sacks of genetic material, Dolphins are sacks of genetic material, and humans are sacks of genetic material.