These things have nothing to do with the OS. The OS consists of the kernel and drivers.
The difference is that these arent new programs being put in and called part of the OS. They are features that fundemental to programs microsoft refuses to remove from the bundled applications it includes with the OS.
There is no such thing as a kernel update, only a new version. In other things there are new versions, and there are updates. They are two seperate things. A new version may have bugs fixed in it, but an update won't have new features (unless they fix the bug).
No, but it DOES make it legal to use the OEM Version because that is what you purchased.
I will try this one more time, and it's certainly not what you'll hear from record or software companies.
Although they have no obligation to replace your media, the media is only part of what you purchased. You purchased the right to one copy. In the case of windows you've purchased a license which has additional restrictions which may or may not actually be valid (it has yet to be tested in a significant court). That license entitles you to an OEM version of windows running on a pc. It does NOT require you to use the original media to install it.
In the case of a song there is no license, copyright law applies, and under copyright law you are explicitly entitled to 2 copies, one of them for backup purposes. You are not neccesarily restricted to two copies. And again, no part of copyright pertains to media, it pertains to the copyrighted work. In fact if you read the copyright law, where it says you are entitled to a backup copy it lists examples of media on which this might be kept which may or may not be identical to the original media.
Media is irrelevant. The one catch is that PERFORMANCE is NOT irrelevant. Even if you consider the DRM to be part of the copyrighted work you obtained there is nothing which requires you to have the COMPLETE copyrighted work. You could have the first 30 seconds of the song and that would be ok, as long as it's the same song, from the same recording (a "live" edition is different, remixed is as well even though the same performance because the remix is a seperate work of art created using the original under it's own copyright) likewise you could have the complete song without the DRM.
If you own one of those old big black cd things, and you later buy the same album on cd (and not remixed, remastered is ok if they merely digitized the original), all you've done is bought the right to another copy that may or may not be needed (since copyright law doesn't specify beyond two copies one way or the other). You could have replaced your record with a burnt cd from a friend , again so long as it was the same recording and not covered under a different copyright.
In short, the nobody had to pay filing fees for another copyright, you don't have to pay for another copy.
P.S. Yes, windows retail and OEM versions are covered under seperate licenses, AND seperate copyrights. They are NOT the same thing. The full retail version of windows has nothing to do with your right to the OEM version which is installed on your computer.
Of course, ALL ports should be closed until explicitly open. And no PROGRAM should be given unrestricted access to communicate regardless. You don't specify that IE is to be allowed, you specify the PORT IE is to be allowed on, and the types of data it may send through that port.
Probably so. When are you planning your next trip to Norway? What on earth makes you think he's any more likely to be coming here?
With the USA being a police state, and him winning in Norway I'd say it's just that much more likely someone would be wanting to go there rather than here anyway.
Yes but you loss quality first when you burn to cd, then you rip, and lose quality YET AGAIN when you convert to mp3. And worse yet, your starting with a lossy format that is already of reduced quality.
In same cases the original file is encoded from the master and in some cases not. In some of the cases where it's taken from the master it could be better quality than the cd version. But even then when you burn it to a cd you have lost quality compared to a cd taken directly from the master.
And even from an original cd you lose quality when encoding to mp3 (or ogg). There is really no way around it, unless you can play the original file the result is something of lower quality.
*Where I've used the term hack, crack really would have been more appropriate in this post.
likely the vast proliferation of exploits that each break down Zone alarm in some fashion. I won't link (not that it's much of a deterrant) to them, but you can find lots and lots of information out there and ready written exploits that will get you past zone alarm.
Your greatest security on windows is still what it has always been. There really isn't much of anything to hack. There is no form of comprehensive remote administration that one can consider likely to be running on the system and therefore nothing to sink a hook into. A Unix system is infinately harder to find a hole in, and then infinately harder to exploit said hole, but it's more worthwhile.
First because there is more likely something worth getting your hands on sitting on a unix system (be it a powerful system, data someone would actually be interested in, etc). And second because there is generally actually something running on the system to hack into that allows remote administration of some type. FTP, SSH, telnet, etc.
Basically, although windows is much easier to get into (despite your consumer or even commercial software based firewalls) it's more a pain in the arse. If you want to do something other than simply DOS it (and no I don't mean DDOS, nothing distributed about Denial of Servicing a windows box) it requires using the ability to insert and excute a bit of code via a hole, the code in question either needs to be a trojan or go fetch one. Then you have something which will give you somekind of hook to get into the system (there are other ways, but this is the most common that is actually a REAL hack OF A WINDOWS DESKTOP OR WORKSTATION). Now another common one starts the same but actually does things the hard way, using the inserted executable code to get or do what you want. That's more tricky because it means having a pretty good idea what exactly it is you want, a trojan is often more flexible and if you write your own code behaves in the fashion of a legimate network application so it won't be picked up by anti-virus.
Zone alarm has a few problems, it has lots of holes for one, as I said before there are plenty of exploits to open ports from the outside. It's vulnerable to most windows communication problems because it's a software based firewall running on top of windows. What that means is that it's still windows you often need to crack, NOT zone alarm. And it typically scans programs on the system coming up with a list that is okay and lets them through. That's means that I can illegitimately exploit pretty much any application in that list. The most basic example being to use the built in windows ftp program to download my trojan once I've inserted code. That way I don't have to be able to get much of anything in, and I don't need to know much of anything special about your system, ftp is in the same place on any particular version of windows. It also won't trip an alert in your firewall (most exploits don't completely take out zone alarm or anything else, properly exploited this makes it MORE LIKELY I will successfully crack your system since you won't see any problems with your firewall), at this point I've got code of arbitrary length in your system, perhaps the trojan itself, perhaps something to further prep the system, like by adjusting your firewall to permit the traffic from my trojan (I'm inside now, the exploits are typically more powerful from the inside, via an executable that has sucessfully entered and executed on your system it's really not difficult at all to adjust zone alarm for instance, it's easy to get around a password protected zone alarm from the local system.) of course that's not needed if I popped a port on your firewall (as I'll mention one more time is easy to do with readily downloadable and still functional exploits with zone alarm) since I could have downloaded the trojan in the first place and set it to use that port. But lets assume I did adjust the firewa
Actually outlook has three different default behaviors based on the file extension, level 1 (exe's and couple other executable types), level 2 (xls and few others) and level 3 which is any other attachment and DOES open by default when clicked.
Unless you use exchange and set policies with that, actually removing something from the level 1 list puts it on the level 2 list (in fact if you list the extention in the level 1 exclusion list in the registry it adds that extention to level 2 EVEN IF IT WASN'T on the level 1 list to begin with!), the level 2 list CANNOT be changed without exchange. Well as I already mentioned you can add to level 2 by making level 1 exclusions that aren't really on the level 1 list, however you can't remove from the level 2 list.
This is of course all per microsoft and as such likely to woefully inaccurate, take it with a grain of salt.
We've tested a number of these and they all share the same problem. They are yet ANOTHER memory resident app that doesn't work properly with the browser. More fatal exceptions, more browsers crashes, more problems. The big advantage of Mozilla is that it doesn't require anything memory resident and is actually built into the browser so if causes a problem, it's fixed by the same people making the browser in the next version.
The problem of course is that some businesses need to view websites that are heavily activeX like car dealer online auction sites (typically streaming realtime audio and video from the auction).
Yup, and that the coffee tasted like shoeleather and the toast somehow managed to cause diaherra. there would be a patch, and then the toast would only give you smallpocks.
I really fail to see your argument. First I fail to see anything wrong with purchasing hogwarts.com.
If instead of a porn site, it were instead made into a fan club site, would you see a problem with it?
of course not, there are tons of fan sites like this out there and nothing wrong with them. There is no reason that one couldn't buy the domain and do whatever one wished with it. Including HP parady porn or something which has nothing to with the books at all, such as site on warts, hogs, or a porn site.
By your logic, I should be able to self publish a book and include in it a list of 1000 made up domains that aren't registered and magically upon publication (whether the book is popular or not is irrelevant) all those domains should be reserved for my exclusive use. That's pretty fsck'd up. The only way you should be able to reserve a domain is BY PAYING FOR IT.
You know what happens if the music industry keeps coming up with new protections and they keep getting rampantly cracked no matter what they do in what arena, be it legal, technical or otherwise?
Eventually, they'll give up. It's expensive developing technical measures, or buying them, it's expensive taking 12yr olds to court. It's expensive having the worst reputation of ALL ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRIES. It's very very expensive.
At some point it becomes more expensive than their percieved losses. At some point they either bury themselves with these expenses paving the way for the destruction of their obsolete models and for new players who aren't intersted in repeating their mistakes. Or they just give the hell up. The expense is already causing them to give way and that's why we are seeing things like iTMS. Does this mean we should let it drop there?
In case you haven't noticed, copyright issues are raised every few years, just far enough apart to make it seem a new fight. And everytime we settle somewhere inbetween, but that somewhere inbetween is always a little bit in the wrong direction, more restrictions, less freedom, less rights for the people. At what point did we decide that compromise didn't mean things being a little MORE free rather than a little LESS free?
That's ok, what you've purchased is NOT merely a digital copy of a song, that's just the package. What you've purchased is the RIGHT to one copy of the copyrighted work, which in this case is the song. Now your perfectly legal to redownload your songs off of Kazaa, if ever questioned about it there are records proving you purchased the music.
If you've bought the song, it's not pirating. You can't copyright media, you can only copyright songs and collections of songs and lyrics. When buy something that is copyrighted, you are buying whatever is copyrighted, in this case the song. NOT the package it comes in.
There really isn't all that much special about purchasing from itunes. Someone delved into this and examined it with the lack hack from this same gentleman in norway to attempt to crack the format.
Although then it was simply cracking the format, not allowing the files to be played on linux.
Then it was pointed out that it should be relatively easy to write a program to allow you to purchase the files but it was academic since you couldn't play them on linux.
It's not academic anymore. Now you can play them on linux.
You could play a DVD before decss to if you were willing to loop the feed back through a capture card and settle for a second rate piece of shit to play on your first rate operating system. Or you could play the original first rate DVD on your second rate operating system. DeCSS allowed you to play your first rate DVD on your first rate operating system.
This does the same, you don't have to convert the file now thanks to Jon. You don't have to use a sound recorder and then convert the file it records to another format and loss quality with each step until you might as well be listening to radio with bad reception or over a phone. You can play the ORIGINAL AAC file (still lossy but at least it's what the second rate os users are getting).
Artists generally don't support the things the RIAA have done. The RIAA is against things like filesharing not because they think it's greatly impacting CD sales, but because it represents an advertising medium that they have NO control over and therefore artists don't have to sign with them to get the advertising. It basically obsoletes the RIAA. If artists don't need the RIAA anymore, they can sign up iTMS directly and advertise on P2P networks.
NO NO NO, first we have to bomb Norway for 10yrs, the bigger more expensive and essential the buildings the better.
Of course we have to buy more bombs to replace the ones used during these 10yrs and bombs aren't cheap, that should help the economy. But while in our benevolent fashion we have control of this evil country after we do invade we can sell their natural resources and out of the kindness of our hearts setup contracts using the funds from the sale with US contracters and suppliers to rebuild everything we've been bombing for 10yrs!!! Woot, plan in advance to get us out of the next recession. Let's go again boys!
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These things have nothing to do with the OS. The OS consists of the kernel and drivers.
The difference is that these arent new programs being put in and called part of the OS. They are features that fundemental to programs microsoft refuses to remove from the bundled applications it includes with the OS.
There is no such thing as a kernel update, only a new version. In other things there are new versions, and there are updates. They are two seperate things. A new version may have bugs fixed in it, but an update won't have new features (unless they fix the bug).
No, but it DOES make it legal to use the OEM Version because that is what you purchased.
I will try this one more time, and it's certainly not what you'll hear from record or software companies.
Although they have no obligation to replace your media, the media is only part of what you purchased. You purchased the right to one copy. In the case of windows you've purchased a license which has additional restrictions which may or may not actually be valid (it has yet to be tested in a significant court). That license entitles you to an OEM version of windows running on a pc. It does NOT require you to use the original media to install it.
In the case of a song there is no license, copyright law applies, and under copyright law you are explicitly entitled to 2 copies, one of them for backup purposes. You are not neccesarily restricted to two copies. And again, no part of copyright pertains to media, it pertains to the copyrighted work. In fact if you read the copyright law, where it says you are entitled to a backup copy it lists examples of media on which this might be kept which may or may not be identical to the original media.
Media is irrelevant. The one catch is that PERFORMANCE is NOT irrelevant. Even if you consider the DRM to be part of the copyrighted work you obtained there is nothing which requires you to have the COMPLETE copyrighted work. You could have the first 30 seconds of the song and that would be ok, as long as it's the same song, from the same recording (a "live" edition is different, remixed is as well even though the same performance because the remix is a seperate work of art created using the original under it's own copyright) likewise you could have the complete song without the DRM.
If you own one of those old big black cd things, and you later buy the same album on cd (and not remixed, remastered is ok if they merely digitized the original), all you've done is bought the right to another copy that may or may not be needed (since copyright law doesn't specify beyond two copies one way or the other). You could have replaced your record with a burnt cd from a friend , again so long as it was the same recording and not covered under a different copyright.
In short, the nobody had to pay filing fees for another copyright, you don't have to pay for another copy.
P.S. Yes, windows retail and OEM versions are covered under seperate licenses, AND seperate copyrights. They are NOT the same thing. The full retail version of windows has nothing to do with your right to the OEM version which is installed on your computer.
Nope you'd be mistaken. IE will simply prompt and ask if it's ok.
Of course, ALL ports should be closed until explicitly open. And no PROGRAM should be given unrestricted access to communicate regardless. You don't specify that IE is to be allowed, you specify the PORT IE is to be allowed on, and the types of data it may send through that port.
"slow, buggy, and doesn't have enough new features yet to be interesting for more than 10 minutes."
And how is that different from a final release MS OS?
No, only when their implementations are poor and they are intended to drive out competi... yup pretty much.
Probably so. When are you planning your next trip to Norway? What on earth makes you think he's any more likely to be coming here?
With the USA being a police state, and him winning in Norway I'd say it's just that much more likely someone would be wanting to go there rather than here anyway.
Yes but you loss quality first when you burn to cd, then you rip, and lose quality YET AGAIN when you convert to mp3. And worse yet, your starting with a lossy format that is already of reduced quality.
In same cases the original file is encoded from the master and in some cases not. In some of the cases where it's taken from the master it could be better quality than the cd version. But even then when you burn it to a cd you have lost quality compared to a cd taken directly from the master.
And even from an original cd you lose quality when encoding to mp3 (or ogg). There is really no way around it, unless you can play the original file the result is something of lower quality.
"and I don't think sweden is that different."
Great but what does that have to do with Norway where Jon is from?
*Where I've used the term hack, crack really would have been more appropriate in this post.
likely the vast proliferation of exploits that each break down Zone alarm in some fashion. I won't link (not that it's much of a deterrant) to them, but you can find lots and lots of information out there and ready written exploits that will get you past zone alarm.
Your greatest security on windows is still what it has always been. There really isn't much of anything to hack. There is no form of comprehensive remote administration that one can consider likely to be running on the system and therefore nothing to sink a hook into. A Unix system is infinately harder to find a hole in, and then infinately harder to exploit said hole, but it's more worthwhile.
First because there is more likely something worth getting your hands on sitting on a unix system (be it a powerful system, data someone would actually be interested in, etc). And second because there is generally actually something running on the system to hack into that allows remote administration of some type. FTP, SSH, telnet, etc.
Basically, although windows is much easier to get into (despite your consumer or even commercial software based firewalls) it's more a pain in the arse. If you want to do something other than simply DOS it (and no I don't mean DDOS, nothing distributed about Denial of Servicing a windows box) it requires using the ability to insert and excute a bit of code via a hole, the code in question either needs to be a trojan or go fetch one. Then you have something which will give you somekind of hook to get into the system (there are other ways, but this is the most common that is actually a REAL hack OF A WINDOWS DESKTOP OR WORKSTATION). Now another common one starts the same but actually does things the hard way, using the inserted executable code to get or do what you want. That's more tricky because it means having a pretty good idea what exactly it is you want, a trojan is often more flexible and if you write your own code behaves in the fashion of a legimate network application so it won't be picked up by anti-virus.
Zone alarm has a few problems, it has lots of holes for one, as I said before there are plenty of exploits to open ports from the outside. It's vulnerable to most windows communication problems because it's a software based firewall running on top of windows. What that means is that it's still windows you often need to crack, NOT zone alarm. And it typically scans programs on the system coming up with a list that is okay and lets them through. That's means that I can illegitimately exploit pretty much any application in that list. The most basic example being to use the built in windows ftp program to download my trojan once I've inserted code. That way I don't have to be able to get much of anything in, and I don't need to know much of anything special about your system, ftp is in the same place on any particular version of windows. It also won't trip an alert in your firewall (most exploits don't completely take out zone alarm or anything else, properly exploited this makes it MORE LIKELY I will successfully crack your system since you won't see any problems with your firewall), at this point I've got code of arbitrary length in your system, perhaps the trojan itself, perhaps something to further prep the system, like by adjusting your firewall to permit the traffic from my trojan (I'm inside now, the exploits are typically more powerful from the inside, via an executable that has sucessfully entered and executed on your system it's really not difficult at all to adjust zone alarm for instance, it's easy to get around a password protected zone alarm from the local system.) of course that's not needed if I popped a port on your firewall (as I'll mention one more time is easy to do with readily downloadable and still functional exploits with zone alarm) since I could have downloaded the trojan in the first place and set it to use that port. But lets assume I did adjust the firewa
Actually outlook has three different default behaviors based on the file extension, level 1 (exe's and couple other executable types), level 2 (xls and few others) and level 3 which is any other attachment and DOES open by default when clicked.
Unless you use exchange and set policies with that, actually removing something from the level 1 list puts it on the level 2 list (in fact if you list the extention in the level 1 exclusion list in the registry it adds that extention to level 2 EVEN IF IT WASN'T on the level 1 list to begin with!), the level 2 list CANNOT be changed without exchange. Well as I already mentioned you can add to level 2 by making level 1 exclusions that aren't really on the level 1 list, however you can't remove from the level 2 list.
This is of course all per microsoft and as such likely to woefully inaccurate, take it with a grain of salt.
We've tested a number of these and they all share the same problem. They are yet ANOTHER memory resident app that doesn't work properly with the browser. More fatal exceptions, more browsers crashes, more problems. The big advantage of Mozilla is that it doesn't require anything memory resident and is actually built into the browser so if causes a problem, it's fixed by the same people making the browser in the next version.
The problem of course is that some businesses need to view websites that are heavily activeX like car dealer online auction sites (typically streaming realtime audio and video from the auction).
Yup, and that the coffee tasted like shoeleather and the toast somehow managed to cause diaherra. there would be a patch, and then the toast would only give you smallpocks.
well he could make it a mirror or a redirect...
I really fail to see your argument. First I fail to see anything wrong with purchasing hogwarts.com.
If instead of a porn site, it were instead made into a fan club site, would you see a problem with it?
of course not, there are tons of fan sites like this out there and nothing wrong with them. There is no reason that one couldn't buy the domain and do whatever one wished with it. Including HP parady porn or something which has nothing to with the books at all, such as site on warts, hogs, or a porn site.
By your logic, I should be able to self publish a book and include in it a list of 1000 made up domains that aren't registered and magically upon publication (whether the book is popular or not is irrelevant) all those domains should be reserved for my exclusive use. That's pretty fsck'd up. The only way you should be able to reserve a domain is BY PAYING FOR IT.
You know what happens if the music industry keeps coming up with new protections and they keep getting rampantly cracked no matter what they do in what arena, be it legal, technical or otherwise?
Eventually, they'll give up. It's expensive developing technical measures, or buying them, it's expensive taking 12yr olds to court. It's expensive having the worst reputation of ALL ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRIES. It's very very expensive.
At some point it becomes more expensive than their percieved losses. At some point they either bury themselves with these expenses paving the way for the destruction of their obsolete models and for new players who aren't intersted in repeating their mistakes. Or they just give the hell up. The expense is already causing them to give way and that's why we are seeing things like iTMS. Does this mean we should let it drop there?
In case you haven't noticed, copyright issues are raised every few years, just far enough apart to make it seem a new fight. And everytime we settle somewhere inbetween, but that somewhere inbetween is always a little bit in the wrong direction, more restrictions, less freedom, less rights for the people. At what point did we decide that compromise didn't mean things being a little MORE free rather than a little LESS free?
That's ok, what you've purchased is NOT merely a digital copy of a song, that's just the package. What you've purchased is the RIGHT to one copy of the copyrighted work, which in this case is the song. Now your perfectly legal to redownload your songs off of Kazaa, if ever questioned about it there are records proving you purchased the music.
If you've bought the song, it's not pirating. You can't copyright media, you can only copyright songs and collections of songs and lyrics. When buy something that is copyrighted, you are buying whatever is copyrighted, in this case the song. NOT the package it comes in.
He lost in the US. He lives in Norway, he won in Norway with DeCSS... twice.
There really isn't all that much special about purchasing from itunes. Someone delved into this and examined it with the lack hack from this same gentleman in norway to attempt to crack the format.
Although then it was simply cracking the format, not allowing the files to be played on linux.
Then it was pointed out that it should be relatively easy to write a program to allow you to purchase the files but it was academic since you couldn't play them on linux.
It's not academic anymore. Now you can play them on linux.
You could play a DVD before decss to if you were willing to loop the feed back through a capture card and settle for a second rate piece of shit to play on your first rate operating system. Or you could play the original first rate DVD on your second rate operating system. DeCSS allowed you to play your first rate DVD on your first rate operating system.
This does the same, you don't have to convert the file now thanks to Jon. You don't have to use a sound recorder and then convert the file it records to another format and loss quality with each step until you might as well be listening to radio with bad reception or over a phone. You can play the ORIGINAL AAC file (still lossy but at least it's what the second rate os users are getting).
Artists generally don't support the things the RIAA have done. The RIAA is against things like filesharing not because they think it's greatly impacting CD sales, but because it represents an advertising medium that they have NO control over and therefore artists don't have to sign with them to get the advertising. It basically obsoletes the RIAA. If artists don't need the RIAA anymore, they can sign up iTMS directly and advertise on P2P networks.
NO NO NO, first we have to bomb Norway for 10yrs, the bigger more expensive and essential the buildings the better.
Of course we have to buy more bombs to replace the ones used during these 10yrs and bombs aren't cheap, that should help the economy. But while in our benevolent fashion we have control of this evil country after we do invade we can sell their natural resources and out of the kindness of our hearts setup contracts using the funds from the sale with US contracters and suppliers to rebuild everything we've been bombing for 10yrs!!! Woot, plan in advance to get us out of the next recession. Let's go again boys!
Yup, what was it 20million songs they've sold out there that would no longer function if they took your advice?
Saying he doesn't need to work for a living at 15 is bad enough, but 19? Get off your arse, move out of mommy's house and get a fscking job.
Slackers.