Let me correct myself. When running WINDOWS both machines are around equal speed for 90% of operations. On windows the drive plays a much bigger part because regardless of how much memory you have the drive swaps. Also a P1 is using EDO Ram so it does not sap the cpu in refresh.
Get two systems together. Both with the same amount of memory and the same windows OS. Then install an IDE controller in the P1 and put fast ide drives on both systems (a faster scsi controller will do as well). Put something to the tune of a pci based Geforced 4 in both. Boot them up and see how they perform on common tasks.
You say te harddrive is not the bottleneck on most modern computers. I disagree, in a world where windows runs on 90+% of computers, and windows swaps regardless of how much memory you have, in fact swaps MORE if you have more ram, the hard drive IS the biggest bottleneck in the system. Furthermore I'd argue that without dynamic memory in your system eating clock cycles with x million refreshes a second, the processor is no longer the longer the biggest bottleneck in the system.
Where have you heard that nonesense? When the pilgrams landed not much of anyone except vikings and eskimo's lived in Canada.
I assure you they did not invent thanksgiving, and at the time of the first thanksgiving it's a safe bet they didn't email the pilgrams to let them in on it even if they had invented it.
"That leaves 30 million bucks, 25 million of which goes to the publisher and advertising and the remaining 5 million or so will make it to the developer who probably spent 3-4 million (royalty advances), for two years development of the game."
3-4mil is INCLUDING advertising, marketing and distribution. Actually paying developers for 2yrs should come out to more like 1.2mil for a staff of 20 coders. And a 20k bonus is ridiculous.
Yes by why dram? Has supercomputing stopped using faster static memory in favor of cheap but slow dynamic and cpu hog (those refreshs are a big part of why a p1 will run reasonably well side by side with a p4 when you stick a fast drive controller card in it for 90% of computing operations) as well?
Also, 6bil gamers compared to 10bil movie watchers is a big gap I'll give you. But you don't need to compare 6bil gamers leaves plenty of room to sell 100mil copies of a game.
Nobody is buying 100million games because a movie ticket costs $5 and a pc game costs $40. I can afford to go 8 movies for every 1 pc game I buy. So overall movies can sell 8 times the number of tickets and still only break even with the game industry. Then one must consider that games cost a small fraction of the price to develop. Movies around $50mil, games around $3-5mil.
Exactly where are you getting prices of under $10 for real games? The only pc games I see in that price range are old titles, still being sold but hardly newcomers. Since the game is much more likely to cost $30-$40, if you sell a million copies that's $30-$40 million, since your other numbers are about right at the $30 million mark just the way they are...
that's 6 to 7 million to the publisher and the retailer. That leaves $23-$33mil, development costs in about two years should be around 2mil, but we'll call it 3mil. That is leaving $20-$30mil of cold hard cash in the first few months of the games life, afterwards the game continues to produce profits at a slower rate over the course of the next year or so. At 3mil a pop, the developer would have to make another 6-10 failures without a success or generating any income at all before they broke even were down to a mere 2mil as you described.
I agree, windows is so yesterday. Any software which runs only runs on windows must be outdated. Everyone knows that modern software runs on modern platforms like Linux, BSD, and/or MacOSX
from my own original post. When the militias are rallied they BECOME what is supposed to be the US Army.
What is the modern day national guard? It is supposed to be what becomes the US Army when rallied by the President (for a term of no more than 2yrs in time of peace) or indefinately (indefinate length of the war + up to 2yrs afterward) when rallied by congress under a declaration of war.
I'm not going to do your research for you or anyone else who wishes to argue or debate.
The constitution allows the militias to be called together as a standing army in times of war. In times of PEACE the constitution explicitly allows the army to be maintained for a maximum term of two years. That means the US is NOT allowed to maintain a standing army for a term of longer than 2yrs in time of piece. That does NOT mean it's ok so long as the army recuits for 2yr terms.
The one we have is the kind of Government they wanted. They had to establish one in which people wouldn't overthrow THEM.
Name 3 founding fathers who were not Aristocrats, I'm willing to bet you can't. You see, you can't establish a trade monopoly between the colonies and England if you only control (the kind they were concerned about at the time) one side of the water. So they did the next best thing, they explicitly forbid government granted monopolies in the Constitution.
And yes they felt the Taxes were Exorbitant, much like they are now. And much like now the AVERAGE citizen has no real recourse and no representation. Only the rich have representation in this nation from the founding fathers to the present day.
That article doesn't make me wrong at all. It's something else altogether.
Simply because the president is it's commander in chief when a standing army is raised does NOT mean we are allowed to have a standing army for a period of time greater than 2yrs in time of peace.
With exceptions (as anything) they were beaten into their present conformity. During their reign the government and corporations have risen to new heights and subtlty of stealing away the liberties of the people.
And yes what gives a rifle it's punch is the caliber, but aside from armor piercing (and the shells can be gotten it's true), the caliber sizes available to civilians all fall into one category. Small. Anything from a.22 to your.50 caliber will incapcitate a human being equally well. The bigger ones are just fun to shoot. They don't even generally make a hole big enough to make up for being a lousy shot. Certainly nothing that could take out a tank or pierce a brick wall.
Now don't get me wrong, there is plenty out there that a civilian could arm himself with. Sam taught me a few tricks, various martial arts and advanced unarmed combat techniques, diving, Demolitions, underwater Demolitions, field improvised explosives and arms, advanced radio communications, among other things. Much of it could make a civilian rather combat ready pretty much anywhere.
But lets face it, those things only go so far when your entire revolution would be taken out with one swift bomb in the night. Of course on the news the next day would be a report about a system misfiring or jet crash landing or you suiciding yourself. Gas fire or some such.
As far as Apple goes I agree. And I apologize, I assumed you were talking about Microsoft trying (and quite possibly succeeding) in locking other operating systems out of the common pc for good.
Although to be honest, most of the nasty stuff I've theorized about Microsoft's plans at various points they've done, tried to do, or are moving toward now. I'm rather impresed with their ability to anticipate and come up with more and more underhanded and shady business schemes everyday.
I've found that the best way to determine what microsoft will do in the future is to close your eyes and think what you would do if you had virtually unlimited resources, greed with no bounds, no morals, AND got your rocks off by increasing your wealth only where reems as many people in the arse as possible.
ok, now I'll be the first to admit, DHCP is not generally the most secure thing in the world. But are you honestly saying you fail to see how a vulnerability which basically turns DHCP into a user friendly rootkit which by default gives full root access to every file and service on every machine which recieves a lease is a tad bit more serious than redirecting users to a barney sucks webpage when they try to go to google?
DHCP is not secure, it was never intended to be a secure or trusted mechanism. That's part of why things like ssl and ssh exist. Nobody really has to trust dhcp when being used in it's intended fashion.
The problem with Mac OS X is that it's completely trusting that service which is known not to be secure and was never intended to be secure, by default, with complete root access to your server... and by the way, they didn't bother to tell you about it.
ok, so your thinking a switch which supports mac address filtering (start thinking several hundred bucks) is something the average joe is going to have in his home? Or that the average business with less than 50 users is likely to have?
Umm what guess? There was a press statement prior to that story in which either phoenix or ms one of the two announced an agreement between the two companies to bundle the bios with windows. How exactly does that constitute a guess? And what does it have to do with this story?
Keep your story related grudges within the story;)
*sighs* your the type that just keeps replying and replying, debating simply for the purpose of debate.
You do realize this entire discussion has evolved from you debating a technicality in my original Post which had very little to do with what we are discussing now, and neither of us being willing to let it go;) I'm not going to endlessly debate you on the meaning of MMORPG or who defines it, especially since my opinion is that individuals define it for themselves and that includes you. I've debated myself out of the debate.
My original point was although there might be many online games designed for multiple players, those with significant development and enough popularity to make it on the typical gamer's radar are relatively small.
Umm AFAIK a double negative is not valid in English and therefore makes neither a positive nor a negative, rather it's makes the state which includes the double negative not be English at all.
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Let me correct myself. When running WINDOWS both machines are around equal speed for 90% of operations. On windows the drive plays a much bigger part because regardless of how much memory you have the drive swaps. Also a P1 is using EDO Ram so it does not sap the cpu in refresh.
Get two systems together. Both with the same amount of memory and the same windows OS. Then install an IDE controller in the P1 and put fast ide drives on both systems (a faster scsi controller will do as well). Put something to the tune of a pci based Geforced 4 in both. Boot them up and see how they perform on common tasks.
You say te harddrive is not the bottleneck on most modern computers. I disagree, in a world where windows runs on 90+% of computers, and windows swaps regardless of how much memory you have, in fact swaps MORE if you have more ram, the hard drive IS the biggest bottleneck in the system. Furthermore I'd argue that without dynamic memory in your system eating clock cycles with x million refreshes a second, the processor is no longer the longer the biggest bottleneck in the system.
Where have you heard that nonesense? When the pilgrams landed not much of anyone except vikings and eskimo's lived in Canada.
I assure you they did not invent thanksgiving, and at the time of the first thanksgiving it's a safe bet they didn't email the pilgrams to let them in on it even if they had invented it.
"That leaves 30 million bucks, 25 million of which goes to the publisher and advertising and the remaining 5 million or so will make it to the developer who probably spent 3-4 million (royalty advances), for two years development of the game."
3-4mil is INCLUDING advertising, marketing and distribution. Actually paying developers for 2yrs should come out to more like 1.2mil for a staff of 20 coders. And a 20k bonus is ridiculous.
Yes by why dram? Has supercomputing stopped using faster static memory in favor of cheap but slow dynamic and cpu hog (those refreshs are a big part of why a p1 will run reasonably well side by side with a p4 when you stick a fast drive controller card in it for 90% of computing operations) as well?
No, It's a supercomputer. Those are RISC processors, a PPC 440 in reality gives better performance than a CISC processor like the PIII
Also, 6bil gamers compared to 10bil movie watchers is a big gap I'll give you. But you don't need to compare 6bil gamers leaves plenty of room to sell 100mil copies of a game.
Nobody is buying 100million games because a movie ticket costs $5 and a pc game costs $40. I can afford to go 8 movies for every 1 pc game I buy. So overall movies can sell 8 times the number of tickets and still only break even with the game industry. Then one must consider that games cost a small fraction of the price to develop. Movies around $50mil, games around $3-5mil.
Exactly where are you getting prices of under $10 for real games? The only pc games I see in that price range are old titles, still being sold but hardly newcomers. Since the game is much more likely to cost $30-$40, if you sell a million copies that's $30-$40 million, since your other numbers are about right at the $30 million mark just the way they are...
that's 6 to 7 million to the publisher and the retailer. That leaves $23-$33mil, development costs in about two years should be around 2mil, but we'll call it 3mil. That is leaving $20-$30mil of cold hard cash in the first few months of the games life, afterwards the game continues to produce profits at a slower rate over the course of the next year or so. At 3mil a pop, the developer would have to make another 6-10 failures without a success or generating any income at all before they broke even were down to a mere 2mil as you described.
I agree, windows is so yesterday. Any software which runs only runs on windows must be outdated. Everyone knows that modern software runs on modern platforms like Linux, BSD, and/or MacOSX
"of course the militia's could be rallied"
from my own original post. When the militias are rallied they BECOME what is supposed to be the US Army.
What is the modern day national guard? It is supposed to be what becomes the US Army when rallied by the President (for a term of no more than 2yrs in time of peace) or indefinately (indefinate length of the war + up to 2yrs afterward) when rallied by congress under a declaration of war.
I'm not going to do your research for you or anyone else who wishes to argue or debate.
The constitution allows the militias to be called together as a standing army in times of war. In times of PEACE the constitution explicitly allows the army to be maintained for a maximum term of two years. That means the US is NOT allowed to maintain a standing army for a term of longer than 2yrs in time of piece. That does NOT mean it's ok so long as the army recuits for 2yr terms.
The one we have is the kind of Government they wanted. They had to establish one in which people wouldn't overthrow THEM.
Name 3 founding fathers who were not Aristocrats, I'm willing to bet you can't. You see, you can't establish a trade monopoly between the colonies and England if you only control (the kind they were concerned about at the time) one side of the water. So they did the next best thing, they explicitly forbid government granted monopolies in the Constitution.
And yes they felt the Taxes were Exorbitant, much like they are now. And much like now the AVERAGE citizen has no real recourse and no representation. Only the rich have representation in this nation from the founding fathers to the present day.
That article doesn't make me wrong at all. It's something else altogether.
Simply because the president is it's commander in chief when a standing army is raised does NOT mean we are allowed to have a standing army for a period of time greater than 2yrs in time of peace.
With exceptions (as anything) they were beaten into their present conformity. During their reign the government and corporations have risen to new heights and subtlty of stealing away the liberties of the people.
.22 to your .50 caliber will incapcitate a human being equally well. The bigger ones are just fun to shoot. They don't even generally make a hole big enough to make up for being a lousy shot. Certainly nothing that could take out a tank or pierce a brick wall.
And yes what gives a rifle it's punch is the caliber, but aside from armor piercing (and the shells can be gotten it's true), the caliber sizes available to civilians all fall into one category. Small. Anything from a
Now don't get me wrong, there is plenty out there that a civilian could arm himself with. Sam taught me a few tricks, various martial arts and advanced unarmed combat techniques, diving, Demolitions, underwater Demolitions, field improvised explosives and arms, advanced radio communications, among other things. Much of it could make a civilian rather combat ready pretty much anywhere.
But lets face it, those things only go so far when your entire revolution would be taken out with one swift bomb in the night. Of course on the news the next day would be a report about a system misfiring or jet crash landing or you suiciding yourself. Gas fire or some such.
As far as Apple goes I agree. And I apologize, I assumed you were talking about Microsoft trying (and quite possibly succeeding) in locking other operating systems out of the common pc for good.
Although to be honest, most of the nasty stuff I've theorized about Microsoft's plans at various points they've done, tried to do, or are moving toward now. I'm rather impresed with their ability to anticipate and come up with more and more underhanded and shady business schemes everyday.
I've found that the best way to determine what microsoft will do in the future is to close your eyes and think what you would do if you had virtually unlimited resources, greed with no bounds, no morals, AND got your rocks off by increasing your wealth only where reems as many people in the arse as possible.
ok, now I'll be the first to admit, DHCP is not generally the most secure thing in the world. But are you honestly saying you fail to see how a vulnerability which basically turns DHCP into a user friendly rootkit which by default gives full root access to every file and service on every machine which recieves a lease is a tad bit more serious than redirecting users to a barney sucks webpage when they try to go to google?
DHCP is not secure, it was never intended to be a secure or trusted mechanism. That's part of why things like ssl and ssh exist. Nobody really has to trust dhcp when being used in it's intended fashion.
The problem with Mac OS X is that it's completely trusting that service which is known not to be secure and was never intended to be secure, by default, with complete root access to your server... and by the way, they didn't bother to tell you about it.
ok, so your thinking a switch which supports mac address filtering (start thinking several hundred bucks) is something the average joe is going to have in his home? Or that the average business with less than 50 users is likely to have?
no no no, I don't think he was saying that there aren't legitimate uses for them. Merely that most people don't use them.
Umm what guess? There was a press statement prior to that story in which either phoenix or ms one of the two announced an agreement between the two companies to bundle the bios with windows. How exactly does that constitute a guess? And what does it have to do with this story?
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Keep your story related grudges within the story
It's also slang, not English. Note: IANAEPOES (I am not an english professor or even student).
"Yea right"
Is a double positive. That's something else altogether.
*sighs* your the type that just keeps replying and replying, debating simply for the purpose of debate.
;) I'm not going to endlessly debate you on the meaning of MMORPG or who defines it, especially since my opinion is that individuals define it for themselves and that includes you. I've debated myself out of the debate.
You do realize this entire discussion has evolved from you debating a technicality in my original Post which had very little to do with what we are discussing now, and neither of us being willing to let it go
My original point was although there might be many online games designed for multiple players, those with significant development and enough popularity to make it on the typical gamer's radar are relatively small.
Umm that's the point, if this happens, OSS will still be around, but it won't be possible to run it anymore. The system will only boot windows.
Phoenix owns AWARD, literally. Sorry buddy, your only options I'm aware of will be IBM and AMI. I haven't seen an AMI bios on a new system in years...
Umm AFAIK a double negative is not valid in English and therefore makes neither a positive nor a negative, rather it's makes the state which includes the double negative not be English at all.