"If we were to accept that any extension in testing were bad, and any reduction in testing were good, then it would follow that drug testing only black unemployed people would be better than drug testing all unemployed people, but I think (hope) it's obvious that this would actually be worse."
No, it would in fact actually be better because it would be cheaper and impact fewer people. The racism in the selectivity of the reduction is on just you. Just as the bigotry of testing those in poverty vs anyone getting a tax credit/deduction or benefit of a government program is on those who made that decision.
Nutrition, influence, healthcare, top end education, connections. A social environment teaching behavior, mannerisms, and past experiences that are familiar to others it is helpful to establish connections with.
The people who benefit from most of the labor in this country by extracting it's wealth are not the ones who perform that labor and produce that wealth. They use their wealth and influence to give themselves and their families every benefit possible including maximizing that benefit by minimizing the number of others who can get those benefits.
Denigration of the poor would have been a better way to phrase it. And if you are going to give charity in the form of tax breaks does it not also make sense to make sure that money isn't going to be used for something illegal?
Sure. As you can see usage is actually increasing.
http://www.tiobe.com/tiobe_index?page=index
"Oh, I didn't realize that sysadmins weren't part of the Internet."
Sysadmins actually aren't part of the internet. They are physical humans in the real space not cyberspace. At least for now. The primary internet usage of Perl was coded for CGI. That usage is almost non-existent now. But Perl usage as part of a modern stack is on the rise again even if it is one of the less popular choices it is technically one of the better non-blocking highly parallel solutions able to handle thousands of concurrent connections without breaking a sweat. Actually the concurrent non-blocking thread model that is needed to break 10k connections which is being newly adopted everywhere else was the heart of the now ancient POE system in Perl. There are newer and more shiny solutions like Mojolicious being used these days.
"If it never leads to an arrest or any other consequence, who gives a fuck?"
Who said anything about never leading to an arrest or other consequence. You seem to be living in an ancient world where people aren't snatched, convicted in a secret automatic conviction court, and then stashed in an undisclosed location all under gag orders as easily as breathing the word "terror."
Usage is actually growing while Python usage shrinks.
http://www.tiobe.com/tiobe_index?page=index
The simple reality is that python doesn't really have much in the way of advantages over Perl. It's true that Perl took a big dip when other languages became trendy and web development moved away but that was actually a boon for Perl developers because the inexperienced children writing unreadable garbage went along with it. Perl has remained the practical champion in it's segment with no real contenders for it's crown.
The upward trend comes because Perl 5 has continued to evolve, any advantages of these upstart languages quickly get absorbed in a coherent Perl way and execution is faster than ever. Perl is starting to become an option for the web again as well with lightweight and extremely fast stacks that both can handle ridiculous numbers of non-blocking connections and have all the mature time tested goodness of Perl behind them. One example is Mojolicious... if you haven't looked at Perl in a few years you probably will barely recognize the code you are writing as Perl.
"A) The AI reviewing and reporting was your criteria."
The strawman was adding the requirements that they be conclusively caught doing so and that someone be publicly arrested.
You are right, I can't prove they are shipping this data to the NSA at this point. It's new, give it time. But given that we are talking about the company that bought Skype for it's perception of security and then re-engineered Skype for the sole purpose of making it possible to wiretap, a set of actions that serves no purpose but to dismantle a secure communications platform for the benefit of authorities, my assumption they are doing so is in perfect keeping with MS past behavior. They've put their money contrary to where their mouth to the tune of millions before.
Suggesting otherwise is akin to suggesting your local PD doesn't share any data with the FBI.
The Lt. Governor of Texas tweeted to indicate they reaped what they sowed. He later removed the tweet but the Country and the world has a right to know.
1. According to most metrics Perl 5 usage hasn't decreased but there is a perception problem indicating it has. Perl usage outstrips python by a lot but many think the opposite is true. Why do you think this perception exists? Is it related to calling the new language Perl 6 giving people the false impression that Perl 5 hasn't progressed as dramatically as it has in the past few years?
2. As a Perl 5 programmer, why should I care about Perl 6? Perl is most used by sysadmins and Perl 5 of some sort can be found on all major *nix distributions out of the box. Without this support Perl 6 might as well not even exist for this group who already have to code for Perl versions a decade out of date in many cases. How, if at all, do you see Perl 6 resolving this problem or do you see Perl 6 hitting a different base altogether?
Perl 5 usage still outstrips python and usage hasn't decreased at all for sysadmins. Perl usage has dropped for the internet. What some people don't realize is that Perl 5 has continued to be developed. It it much faster and more feature rich than it was in the past. Perl 6 is a new language altogether.
"So someone's been arrested because an AI turned them into police after reviewing their Windows 10 telemetry?"
Straw man.
You didn't say it would be an extremely stupid move for MS to have an AI turn someone in to the police resulting in an arrest. You said it would be stupid for MS to have your OS call the cops on you. The NSA/FBI are executive enforcement branches and therefore count as "the cops" and since windows 10 sends data to the cops your criteria is already met. Whether it's MS mining the data or the NSA is it undoubtedly being mined and the algorithms and AI doing that data mining is only going to get more sophisticated from here.
"It's also an extremely stupid (thus unlikely) move for MS to make. Think about it, when your OS starts calling the cops on you, you move to another OS."
We are talking about windows 10... where they are already doing this.
Yes, it isn't that a machine saw your data. The issue is that a machine controlled by someone else and with a purpose potentially in conflict with your interests saw your data. Windows 10 turns your personal computer into such a machine. Facebook, google, and your phone all do much the same. More and more your devices are no longer machines that you control, they are machines you pay for but are still controlled by third parties that don't share your interests.
Once they've got your data they can mine it with smart algorithms including more and more sophisticated AI.
I certainly do care if a machine under the control and access of someone else sees data I haven't chosen to share, porn or otherwise.
That data can be used to track me, identify me, identify my habits, waste my attention and money with better targeted ads, and spot the dozens of things I (and everyone else) do on a daily basis that violate one of the hundreds of thousands of obscure lines of law on the books.
That last one is huge. Almost everything is illegal by the strict letter of the law. The reason we aren't all in prison (including the law enforcement) is that humans are enforcing and judging the law and even a supreme court justice will only be aware of a tiny fraction of the law. An AI won't have that problem. I don't care who you are, you DO have something to hide even if you don't know it.
Forget your porn. Are you good with Microsoft and anyone they choose to sell the processed and evaluated data to knowing about your finances and your tax data? That time you engaged in unauthorized systems access by taking a look at HBO go with your brothers credentials to decide if you wanted to subscribe? Keep in mind, we are talking about an AI world with no common sense or reasonable exceptions and the courts have decided they can lie and instruct juries that they are only allowed to judge the facts for strict technical violation of the law and not the justice in applying the law to a particular case.
"This is a huge multi-year project that almost rewrites whole portions of the browser."
That's down to poor abstraction and design, which hopefully was fixed in that re-write, not how monumental the feature is. That cleaner design is a bigger change than the process handling itself. If they've reworked that much of the code-base then it justifies a version increment that possibly would come with a cool code name the process handling itself... yes just a changelog.
Okay, but why have a catchy name for a change in process handling at all? I know they are pleased with themselves but this is just an entry on a changelog.
I'm a FF fan but Chrome still executes much js faster than FF. As for memory usage, it depends, the first day FF is lighter but it leaks like crazy.
If you are a typical browser user and have dozens of tabs opened and closed on a daily basis while leaving your browser open after just a couple days the memory consumption will be ridiculous.
No doubt, Firefox has stability issues and isn't as fast executing some js. If only Chrome didn't suck in comparison on every other front right down to being spyware.
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It's everyone's money. You just haven't paid your bill. The deductions and credits are part of your debt being forgiven as a form of charity.
"If we were to accept that any extension in testing were bad, and any reduction in testing were good, then it would follow that drug testing only black unemployed people would be better than drug testing all unemployed people, but I think (hope) it's obvious that this would actually be worse."
No, it would in fact actually be better because it would be cheaper and impact fewer people. The racism in the selectivity of the reduction is on just you. Just as the bigotry of testing those in poverty vs anyone getting a tax credit/deduction or benefit of a government program is on those who made that decision.
Nutrition, influence, healthcare, top end education, connections. A social environment teaching behavior, mannerisms, and past experiences that are familiar to others it is helpful to establish connections with.
The people who benefit from most of the labor in this country by extracting it's wealth are not the ones who perform that labor and produce that wealth. They use their wealth and influence to give themselves and their families every benefit possible including maximizing that benefit by minimizing the number of others who can get those benefits.
Denigration of the poor would have been a better way to phrase it. And if you are going to give charity in the form of tax breaks does it not also make sense to make sure that money isn't going to be used for something illegal?
Because nobody uses Erlang and you'd be writing something that nobody could step in and maintain after you left?
"Do you have a source for that?"
Sure. As you can see usage is actually increasing.
http://www.tiobe.com/tiobe_index?page=index
"Oh, I didn't realize that sysadmins weren't part of the Internet."
Sysadmins actually aren't part of the internet. They are physical humans in the real space not cyberspace. At least for now. The primary internet usage of Perl was coded for CGI. That usage is almost non-existent now. But Perl usage as part of a modern stack is on the rise again even if it is one of the less popular choices it is technically one of the better non-blocking highly parallel solutions able to handle thousands of concurrent connections without breaking a sweat. Actually the concurrent non-blocking thread model that is needed to break 10k connections which is being newly adopted everywhere else was the heart of the now ancient POE system in Perl. There are newer and more shiny solutions like Mojolicious being used these days.
"If it never leads to an arrest or any other consequence, who gives a fuck?"
Who said anything about never leading to an arrest or other consequence. You seem to be living in an ancient world where people aren't snatched, convicted in a secret automatic conviction court, and then stashed in an undisclosed location all under gag orders as easily as breathing the word "terror."
Usage is actually growing while Python usage shrinks.
http://www.tiobe.com/tiobe_index?page=index
The simple reality is that python doesn't really have much in the way of advantages over Perl. It's true that Perl took a big dip when other languages became trendy and web development moved away but that was actually a boon for Perl developers because the inexperienced children writing unreadable garbage went along with it. Perl has remained the practical champion in it's segment with no real contenders for it's crown.
The upward trend comes because Perl 5 has continued to evolve, any advantages of these upstart languages quickly get absorbed in a coherent Perl way and execution is faster than ever. Perl is starting to become an option for the web again as well with lightweight and extremely fast stacks that both can handle ridiculous numbers of non-blocking connections and have all the mature time tested goodness of Perl behind them. One example is Mojolicious... if you haven't looked at Perl in a few years you probably will barely recognize the code you are writing as Perl.
"A) The AI reviewing and reporting was your criteria."
The strawman was adding the requirements that they be conclusively caught doing so and that someone be publicly arrested.
You are right, I can't prove they are shipping this data to the NSA at this point. It's new, give it time. But given that we are talking about the company that bought Skype for it's perception of security and then re-engineered Skype for the sole purpose of making it possible to wiretap, a set of actions that serves no purpose but to dismantle a secure communications platform for the benefit of authorities, my assumption they are doing so is in perfect keeping with MS past behavior. They've put their money contrary to where their mouth to the tune of millions before.
Suggesting otherwise is akin to suggesting your local PD doesn't share any data with the FBI.
The Lt. Governor of Texas tweeted to indicate they reaped what they sowed. He later removed the tweet but the Country and the world has a right to know.
1. According to most metrics Perl 5 usage hasn't decreased but there is a perception problem indicating it has. Perl usage outstrips python by a lot but many think the opposite is true. Why do you think this perception exists? Is it related to calling the new language Perl 6 giving people the false impression that Perl 5 hasn't progressed as dramatically as it has in the past few years?
2. As a Perl 5 programmer, why should I care about Perl 6? Perl is most used by sysadmins and Perl 5 of some sort can be found on all major *nix distributions out of the box. Without this support Perl 6 might as well not even exist for this group who already have to code for Perl versions a decade out of date in many cases. How, if at all, do you see Perl 6 resolving this problem or do you see Perl 6 hitting a different base altogether?
Every large company that still uses *nix in production which is most of them.
Perl 5 usage still outstrips python and usage hasn't decreased at all for sysadmins. Perl usage has dropped for the internet. What some people don't realize is that Perl 5 has continued to be developed. It it much faster and more feature rich than it was in the past. Perl 6 is a new language altogether.
You do realize that Perl has massive adoption and that unlike most languages it's usage hasn't dropped over time?
"So someone's been arrested because an AI turned them into police after reviewing their Windows 10 telemetry?"
Straw man.
You didn't say it would be an extremely stupid move for MS to have an AI turn someone in to the police resulting in an arrest. You said it would be stupid for MS to have your OS call the cops on you. The NSA/FBI are executive enforcement branches and therefore count as "the cops" and since windows 10 sends data to the cops your criteria is already met. Whether it's MS mining the data or the NSA is it undoubtedly being mined and the algorithms and AI doing that data mining is only going to get more sophisticated from here.
I thought she was just going on about the moral quandary of her affair.
I did it actually sounded more like the internal monologue of a lifeform that has been exposed to few dozen screenplays and nothing else.
I don't know. I don't know. You want me to tell you the meaning of the incoherent story. I don't really know.
"It's also an extremely stupid (thus unlikely) move for MS to make. Think about it, when your OS starts calling the cops on you, you move to another OS."
We are talking about windows 10... where they are already doing this.
Yes, it isn't that a machine saw your data. The issue is that a machine controlled by someone else and with a purpose potentially in conflict with your interests saw your data. Windows 10 turns your personal computer into such a machine. Facebook, google, and your phone all do much the same. More and more your devices are no longer machines that you control, they are machines you pay for but are still controlled by third parties that don't share your interests.
Once they've got your data they can mine it with smart algorithms including more and more sophisticated AI.
I certainly do care if a machine under the control and access of someone else sees data I haven't chosen to share, porn or otherwise.
That data can be used to track me, identify me, identify my habits, waste my attention and money with better targeted ads, and spot the dozens of things I (and everyone else) do on a daily basis that violate one of the hundreds of thousands of obscure lines of law on the books.
That last one is huge. Almost everything is illegal by the strict letter of the law. The reason we aren't all in prison (including the law enforcement) is that humans are enforcing and judging the law and even a supreme court justice will only be aware of a tiny fraction of the law. An AI won't have that problem. I don't care who you are, you DO have something to hide even if you don't know it.
Forget your porn. Are you good with Microsoft and anyone they choose to sell the processed and evaluated data to knowing about your finances and your tax data? That time you engaged in unauthorized systems access by taking a look at HBO go with your brothers credentials to decide if you wanted to subscribe? Keep in mind, we are talking about an AI world with no common sense or reasonable exceptions and the courts have decided they can lie and instruct juries that they are only allowed to judge the facts for strict technical violation of the law and not the justice in applying the law to a particular case.
"This is a huge multi-year project that almost rewrites whole portions of the browser."
That's down to poor abstraction and design, which hopefully was fixed in that re-write, not how monumental the feature is. That cleaner design is a bigger change than the process handling itself. If they've reworked that much of the code-base then it justifies a version increment that possibly would come with a cool code name the process handling itself... yes just a changelog.
You seem to think a human being is doing the looking.
Okay, but why have a catchy name for a change in process handling at all? I know they are pleased with themselves but this is just an entry on a changelog.
I'm a FF fan but Chrome still executes much js faster than FF. As for memory usage, it depends, the first day FF is lighter but it leaks like crazy.
If you are a typical browser user and have dozens of tabs opened and closed on a daily basis while leaving your browser open after just a couple days the memory consumption will be ridiculous.
No doubt, Firefox has stability issues and isn't as fast executing some js. If only Chrome didn't suck in comparison on every other front right down to being spyware.