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Movie Written By Algorithm Turns Out To Be Hilarious and Intense (arstechnica.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Ars Technica: Ars is excited to be hosting this online debut of Sunspring, a short science fiction film that's not entirely what it seems. It's about three people living in a weird future, possibly on a space station, probably in a love triangle. You know it's the future because H (played with neurotic gravity by Silicon Valley's Thomas Middleditch) is wearing a shiny gold jacket, H2 (Elisabeth Gray) is playing with computers, and C (Humphrey Ker) announces that he has to "go to the skull" before sticking his face into a bunch of green lights. It sounds like your typical sci-fi B-movie, complete with an incoherent plot. Except Sunspring isn't the product of Hollywood hacks -- it was written entirely by an AI. To be specific, it was authored by a recurrent neural network called long short-term memory, or LSTM for short. At least, that's what we'd call it. The AI named itself Benjamin. The report goes on to mention that the movie was made by Oscar Sharp for the annual film festival Sci-Fi London. You can watch the short film (~10 min) on The Scene here.

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  1. AI's first... by messymerry · · Score: 3, Interesting

    AI's first autobiography...

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    1. Re:AI's first... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      Given that Terminator Genysis was written by hoomans I for one welcome our new robot movie writing overlords.

  2. When is it "life"? by suupaabaka · · Score: 0

    We seem to incrementally moving towards smarter and more complex AI. I'm interested to know when we'll classify it as a form of life; does it have to be sentient (self-aware), or could you argue that some animals/insects aren't self aware? Do we adjust the current definition of life (around reproduction and respiration and all that) or create one that's more fitting for a computer based life form?

    Interesting times.

    1. Re:When is it "life"? by pellik · · Score: 4, Insightful

      We seem to incrementally moving towards smarter and more complex AI.

      Clearly you didn't watch the linked film before commenting.

    2. Re:When is it "life"? by chill · · Score: 5, Funny

      Keep in mind, the bar is set low here. Is it smarter and more complex, producing better quality movies than say, Uwe Boll?

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    3. Re:When is it "life"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I'd say its at least as good as JJ Abrams

    4. Re:When is it "life"? by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 1

      Or maybe he did. If you read his post, it was about as thoughtful as that totally incoherent 9 minutes of acting.

    5. Re:When is it "life"? by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 1, Redundant

      given that "as good" == "as bad"

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    6. Re:When is it "life"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      movie script writing is a pretty low bar, hardly what you'd call 'smarter and more complex'; just look at the trash output by 'hollywood'.. mad libs could do better.

    7. Re:When is it "life"? by Lumpy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I did... and I have been to Cannes Film Festival... It's nearly identical to some of the horribly artsy tripe filmed and passed off as art.

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    8. Re:When is it "life"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would say, this AI has beaten Adam Sandler to the task in movie making.

    9. Re:When is it "life"? by ChunderDownunder · · Score: 1, Interesting

      It seemed like a pastiche of 90s surrealism and certainly no worse than a film directed by David Lynch and starring Parker Posey and Jared Leto. :)

    10. Re:When is it "life"? by MightyMartian · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Beats the hell out of Michael Bay.

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    11. Re:When is it "life"? by suupaabaka · · Score: 1

      You're right; I'm at work, so I forwarded myself the link to watch it later. The topic just got me thinking! :D

      And then I went off on all sorts of tangents from there...

    12. Re: When is it "life"? by breakermelvin · · Score: 1

      When it has persisted for a billion years. AI just gonna give up. If we understood desire and pain, maybe we could construct a simalacrum.

    13. Re:When is it "life"? by 110010001000 · · Score: 1

      We aren't even close to AI. This article has to be a joke.

    14. Re: When is it "life"? by Rei · · Score: 1

      Indeed, it was basically just a chatterbot. But it was still funny :)

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    15. Re:When is it "life"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We aren't even close to AI. This article has to be a joke.

      You apparently are not able to read and use this thing called "Google". You are a fucking joke!

    16. Re:When is it "life"? by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's actually pretty easy to get computers to write *almost* coherent prose simply by feeding it the text of a few novels and getting to regurgitate it back out based simply on some simple algorithms, like word order and basic structural analysis, combined with a few rules about character interaction. It sounds like that's exactly what they did here. What this represented was not AI, but a form of data analysis. An interesting experiment, to be sure, but that's really all.

      I listened to a few minutes of this, and it sounds exactly like the sort of output you'd expect from such an algorithm. It almost sounds right, but there's no real meaning there at all. The computer had no idea what it was regurgitating. It was only the human directors and actors that even gave that gibberish a hint of meaning, and it was still a stretch.

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    17. Re: When is it "life"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fuck you!!!

    18. Re:When is it "life"? by Oligonicella · · Score: 1

      So what you're saying is those writers are as bad as a shitty algorithm. Only difference is, they were *trying* to be shitty.

    19. Re:When is it "life"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Call me when it rakes in 2 billion USD. Or even 100k.

    20. Re:When is it "life"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If you told people this was a script written by Andy Warhol or some other famous weirdo, the critics would fawn all over it, find all kinds of hidden meanings and metaphors in it, and claim anyone who didn't understand it was just beneath it. It would sell for millions of dollars.

    21. Re:When is it "life"? by Darinbob · · Score: 1, Troll

      Hollywood writers have been getting dumber and dumber over time. They want cheap writers who don't know to ask for more money, too young to remember the writer's strike, and they grab a bunch and shove them in a room. So you get a million plot holes, a bizarre conception of how society works, laughable science, and so forth. In a single hour episode they can't manage to keep continuity. They focus on entertainment and ignore reality, and you see fans who don't mind this ("but it had a great fight scene!", "I thought the cast was cute", "you science types are just so picky, sit back and enjoy it!").

      So ya, the AI is probably better.

    22. Re:When is it "life"? by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      I still think about Eraserhead and wonder "what the hell did that mean?" Is an AI going to have the same sort of lasting value that haunts you through the years?

    23. Re:When is it "life"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If no one is paying for the good writers, what are they doing?

    24. Re:When is it "life"? by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

      Hollywood writers have been getting dumber and dumber over time. They want cheap writers who don't know to ask for more money, too young to remember the writer's strike, and they grab a bunch and shove them in a room.

      Ya, but if you were to give a bunch of these writers enough time, you might just get Shakespeare.

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    25. Re:When is it "life"? by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      Have to give credit to the actors and producers for managing to stage something halfway reasonable out of the horrid script.

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    26. Re: When is it "life"? by dunkelfalke · · Score: 3, Informative

      Not the writers are getting dumber, the movie consumers are. The writers just cater to them.

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    27. Re:When is it "life"? by toonces33 · · Score: 1

      That kind of sums up why I no longer waste time going to the movies. That being said, there are a handful of decent ones out there, but they are hard to find, and tend to not stay in the theaters for very long.

      TV is worse - they went into this "reality" black hole to avoid having to pay lots of writers. But to say that they are unscripted isn't correct either - I believe that there are elements to the shows added to make them more "interesting", and I suppose someone comes up with that crap, and their job title might be something along the lines of "writer".

    28. Re:When is it "life"? by ausekilis · · Score: 1

      It's about as coherent as an M. Night Shamalayan movie, without the predictable twist ending.

    29. Re:When is it "life"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We seem to incrementally moving towards smarter and more complex AI.

      Clearly you didn't watch the linked film before commenting.

      I bet he did. What he failed to mention is we're also moving towards stupider people.

    30. Re:When is it "life"? by jimbolauski · · Score: 1

      Movies so bad a series was created to make fun of them. AI's 1st attempt at making a movie is not so bad when compared to the other garbage out there.

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    31. Re:When is it "life"? by Beezlebub33 · · Score: 1

      I do wonder how many takes some of these took. Seriously, i'm impressed by the straight face during the speech by the female lead at the end: 'I can go home and be so bad'. WTH? I'd be giggling.

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    32. Re:When is it "life"? by Chelloveck · · Score: 1

      The computer had no idea what it was regurgitating.

      To the contrary, I think the computer knew exactly what it was doing. Look at these "seeds":

      Title: Sunspring

      Dialog: "It may never be forgiven, but that is just too bad."

      Prop & Action: A character pulls a book from a shelf, flips through it, and puts it back.

      Optional Science Idea: In a future with mass unemployment, young people are forced to sell blood.

      The computer did just what a human writer would do. It said, "What is this bullshit? Okay, bitches, you want a screenplay based on nonsense, I'll give you a screenplay based on nonsense!"

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    33. Re:When is it "life"? by Dragonslicer · · Score: 1

      Have to give credit to the actors and producers for managing to stage something halfway reasonable out of the horrid script.

      Are we still talking about the AI-generated short film?

    34. Re:When is it "life"? by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      Yes. What part of what I said confused you?

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    35. Re:When is it "life"? by s_p_oneil · · Score: 1

      I can think of one Michael Bay movie I'd like to see. He could make a spoof of Transformers where the robots all hunt down and beat the crap out of Michael Bay. It would probably still be over-the-top CGI garbage, but I think I'd pay to see it.

    36. Re:When is it "life"? by doccus · · Score: 1

      I... don't know what you're talking about :-)
      Frankly, it felt like I was watching three people who had sniffed too much gasoline fumes, I don't think any screenwriters have to worry about losing their jobs.. not yet,. anyways. And "hilarious and intense" ? Sure the summary wasn't also written by an AI? Think I'll stay with British comedy instead!

    37. Re:When is it "life"? by doccus · · Score: 1

      I forgot to mention that, as best as I could tell, it didn't even really "write" anything. The lines were already written.. at least that's how it appeared at the beginning of the film when they showed what they fed it. Given it was a screenplay, the AI likely wrote linking direction and actors suggestions ("wearing puzzled look" "Rises out of chair" etc) but for the rest it's like it simply shuffled the entered dialog like a pack of cards..

    38. Re:When is it "life"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You ignorant, idiot. LSTMs are not "rule-based" and almost EVERYTHING you said about what it "sounds like" was completely false.
      God, and the upvotes. The upvotes are the worst part in this. So if some pillock SOUNDS confident, by all means, give him herd support...

    39. Re: When is it "life"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When they make (independent) money and donate to politicians in power.

    40. Re:When is it "life"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A story is framed with a plot, hung with meaning, and shingled with dialog. This film had only meaningless dialog attached to nothing. It was unwatchable garbage.

      Training an AI with thousands of Go games works because every Go game has the same plot: two players trying to surround each other's pieces and squeeze them off the board.

    41. Re:When is it "life"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      boom chicka wow wow...

  3. I, for one, welcome... by zawarski · · Score: 0

    ... our new AI Screenplay Writing Overlords.

  4. Utter shite. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    But I've seen worse on Netflix.

    At least this was mercifully short (though I still couldn't finish it).

  5. Uh, not really. by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Ah, come on. It's mostly just silly. It's like talking with an Eliza program.

    I was around for the production of several of Pixar's films. Nothing took more work or time than script writing. Understanding how to tell a compelling story with the tools of the visual idiom is non-trivial.

    The 3D animation? Well, it was cool but we had to make a compelling film on storyboards before we started using it. 3D animation alone doesn't hold the audience attention for long, and audiences have already gotten used to it, so now it's just another medium rather than something that sells a film.

    When an AI can really tell a compelling story, it will have passed the test for strong AI.

    1. Re:Uh, not really. by r1348 · · Score: 1

      But let's be fair: the gun taped on the wall for no discernible reason was pure brilliance!

    2. Re:Uh, not really. by dbIII · · Score: 1

      The 3D animation? Well, it was cool but we had to make a compelling film on storyboards before we started using it. 3D animation alone doesn't hold the audience attention for long

      Star Trek one - "the motionless picture", despite it's age, is still just about the gold standard of how throwing in a few minutes of special effects does not make a more watchable movie. I remember watching it and despite being a keen Trek fan my response was "they made an actress shave her head for something as worthless as this?" There are plenty of worse films but I'm putting it up as an example because just cutting those long, slow special effects sequences would have improved the film significantly. By trying to improve the film with effects they made it far worse.
      It was sort of a cargo cult "2001" without understanding that the effects were bridging bits and they needed solid stuff before and after to work.

      When an AI can really tell a compelling story, it will have passed the test for strong AI.

      Yes, but I'd add when it can do it with some repeatability. Enough generated scripts and the choice between portions of different random scripts and a human being can pick some meaning out like finding a single four leaf clover in a field. If it can get it right a lot then that's an effective script engine, but as for A.I., such a thing is expected to be more than a one trick pony as far as I've read. If a script engine is "thinking" you'd expect a little more.

    3. Re:Uh, not really. by mwvdlee · · Score: 1

      The only thing even slightly "entertaining" about this is due to the human crew trying to make sense of what is essentially a list of random sentences from other scripts.

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    4. Re:Uh, not really. by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I have the front panel of the VAX 780 used to render the Genesis Effect in Star Trek II. It's on the wall of my office. I didn't keep the rest of the Vax, it was about the size of a mini-van, and ran at one MIPS.

    5. Re:Uh, not really. by greenfruitsalad · · Score: 1

      it was just weird.

      in normal movies, part of the fun is looking for significance behind every weird gesture, unexpected object, person, etc. in here, if it looks out of place, it's just out of place and doesn't mean anything. i could not be bothered to finish watching this thing.

    6. Re:Uh, not really. by dbIII · · Score: 1

      Now that was where the effect was done very well, not a vast amount of time on screen and neatly wrapped in plot.

    7. Re:Uh, not really. by goose-incarnated · · Score: 1

      it was just weird.

      in normal movies, part of the fun is looking for significance behind every weird gesture, unexpected object, person, etc. in here, if it looks out of place, it's just out of place and doesn't mean anything.

      Why do you think that? If (very big 'if') this was real AI that did the writing I'd expect there to be meaning in everything.

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    8. Re:Uh, not really. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Haha, stupid humans not smart enough to understand genius AI sci-fi film. The next 2001.

    9. Re:Uh, not really. by greenfruitsalad · · Score: 1

      did you listen to the dialogue? it's not AI-generated, its A-generated. just artificial, no intelligence behind it.

    10. Re:Uh, not really. by shaitand · · Score: 1

      I did it actually sounded more like the internal monologue of a lifeform that has been exposed to few dozen screenplays and nothing else.

      I don't know. I don't know. You want me to tell you the meaning of the incoherent story. I don't really know.

    11. Re:Uh, not really. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The screen play simply says, "He cuts the shotgun from the edge of the room and puts it in his mouth."

    12. Re:Uh, not really. by kheldan · · Score: 1

      Are you, like myself, sick and tired of people and the media-at-large referring to software algorithms as 'artificial intelligence'? It's like everyone saw too many Terminator movies.

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    13. Re:Uh, not really. by Pfhorrest · · Score: 1

      How do you feel about have you always been mostly silly like talking with an Eliza program?

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    14. Re:Uh, not really. by lokedhs · · Score: 1

      It sounded like a simple markov-chain based on the input data. It doesn't really look like AI. Unless the AI was actually so smart that we simply don't have the capacity to understand what is being said?

    15. Re:Uh, not really. by osu-neko · · Score: 1

      Ah, come on. It's mostly just silly. It's like talking with an Eliza program.

      Well, yes, it's not going to produce high art. But then, when much of human-produced content is on the level of Sharknado 4...

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    16. Re:Uh, not really. by Kyont · · Score: 1

      As was the sudden, inexplicable regurgitation of an eyeball! (Which the actor deftly passed off as a sort of cough-gone-wrong spit-take).

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  6. "Hilarious and Intense"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I couldn't even make it through this absolute nonsense. It was just a random series of words without any sort of logic or "red line". In other words: exactly what you can expect from the pathetic joke they call "AI".

    1. Re:"Hilarious and Intense"? by guruevi · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This was written for a film festival type audience, if you've ever seen those shorts, you'd see it's actually relatively close and if they didn't tell you it was written by an AI would definitely win 'most artistic' or whatever category. There is a semblance of a line in the plot, there is a lot of repetition which is a giveaway but otherwise a nice amount of short stretches of line.

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    2. Re:"Hilarious and Intense"? by Nethemas+the+Great · · Score: 4, Funny

      Perhaps it was just too profound for your comprehension...?

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    3. Re:"Hilarious and Intense"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I couldn't even make it through this absolute nonsense. It was just a random series of words without any sort of logic or "red line". In other words: exactly what you can expect from the pathetic joke they call "AI".

      The dialogue seems like it could have been written by a schizophrenic. It made me wonder: have AI programs such as ELIZA been used to diagnose/treat/study schizophrenia? I am genuinely curious.

    4. Re:"Hilarious and Intense"? by ChunderDownunder · · Score: 1

      I dunno, the ending with a woman's monologue about young love conceiving a child then lost to a miscarriage was deep, man.

    5. Re:"Hilarious and Intense"? by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

      While the dialog is gibberish, it is largely grammatically. Usage is a bit abnormal, but it's not really random. I found it quirky and funny.

      The song was a hoot. No worse than some movie songs I've heard.

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    6. Re:"Hilarious and Intense"? by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

      Then get to it.

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    7. Re: "Hilarious and Intense"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm too busy trying to prove to fools like you that global warming isn't being caused by humans and, in fact, isn't occurring at all. Feel free to throw your money into the wealth redistribution scam, but please leave mine alone. Thanks.

    8. Re:"Hilarious and Intense"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The only reason it had any emotional content was the intense body language and expressiveness of the actors, who were having an absolute blast. The script is literally nonsensical.

    9. Re: "Hilarious and Intense"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought it was an abortion.

    10. Re:"Hilarious and Intense"? by shaitand · · Score: 1

      I thought she was just going on about the moral quandary of her affair.

  7. First Draft Does It Better by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can appreciate the effort and can understand the reaction in the comments. I have (for several years now) been working on a fiction and non-fiction content generator that writes comprehensible stories and articles. So I know how and why attempts like these fall short of being as amazing as they could be. There's just **so** much to this technology, and it's unfortunate that it's not being approached as serious as it should be.

    If anyone's interested, my software is First Draft http://www.justoutsourcing.com/files/fd

    Like I said, I've been working on it for years, but from the looks of the results, it appears as if the story was built on a whim.

    I suppose it's a start nonetheless.

    1. Re:First Draft Does It Better by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did you ever read Orwell's 1984?

      Apparently, the Fiction Department is alive and well.

      "Oh, ghastly rubbish. They're boring, really. They only have six plots, but they swap them round a bit."

  8. Hilarious and Intense? by pr0t0 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Umm...yeah, no.

    Neither of those words would be a good choice to describe the short. I'd choose a loose definition of "interesting". The dialogue is utterly nonsensical. Is that funny? No, not really. It's just jumbling up a bunch of words and choosing them randomly to fill subject/predicate templates based on the type of word they are (noun, verb, etc.) I'm sure it was fun for the actors to try and bring that to life for the viewer. It looks like the type of exercise that might be used in an acting class to illustrate that a narrative can be conveyed through emotion. I thought the actors did a great job with that.

    I'd be much more interested to see what a more robust AI could do. The one that Google is feeding romance novels to would be a good one. We'll see if an AI conquer the chick-flick.

    DISCLAIMER: It is not my intention to imply that only women read romance novels. The term "chick" is also considered derogatory by many women and I am merely using the term in its known context as a label for certain types of films, not as any kind of statement on the gender or to imply association with young avian creatures.

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    1. Re:Hilarious and Intense? by ChunderDownunder · · Score: 4, Funny

      It's just jumbling up a bunch of words and choosing them randomly to fill subject/predicate templates based on the type of word they are (noun, verb, etc.)

      I blame the translation - I'm sure it sounded much more coherent in the original Klingon. :)

    2. Re:Hilarious and Intense? by dbIII · · Score: 4, Funny

      The one that Google is feeding romance novels to would be a good one

      If that becomes skynet we're all well and truly fucked.

    3. Re:Hilarious and Intense? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, there was this:

      "He looks at me, but(unsure here, may have misheard) he throws me out of his eyes. And then he says he'll go to bed with me". That would pass quite easily in a lot of situations as something quite relevant.

    4. Re:Hilarious and Intense? by AthanasiusKircher · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I blame the translation - I'm sure it sounded much more coherent in the original Klingon. :)

      While I know this comment is meant to be funny, there's potentially something really insightful here. Thinking about this comment after watching a bit of the film here made me think about a rough analog to this film in comedy, namely the classic stand-up act where a comedian "imitates" a foreign language without actually knowing how to speak it. Sid Caesar, for example, was particularly well-known for this. (If you've never seen what I'm talking about, here's an example of Sid Caesar doing this schtick.)

      In his act, Caesar would make it sound (sort of) like another language by doing two things: (1) throwing in a few random words, names, or phrases that might be known to tourists or might be associated with the language (e.g., proper names), and (2) filling up the rest of the stuff around these actual foreign words with gibberish that incorporated some of the sounds and cadences of native speakers. (How successful he was at this gibberish imitation is of course up for debate; but it was close enough to work for comedy.)

      Anyhow, the ONLY difference I can see between Sid Caesar's gibberish and this screenplay (and most "AI chatbot" output these days, for that matter) is that the constituent parts of the language to create the "gibberish" are larger. For Sid Caesar, he didn't know the languages, and memorizing thousands of words or phrases in the language for a comedy schtick would sort of defeat the purpose of the act.

      But for a computer, it's trivial to feed in millions of words and phrases in English (or whatever language), or even millions of words and phrases from various sci-fi screenplays. So, rather than gibberish happening on the level of a phoneme or the level of a few syllables that sound like common words in a language (as in Sid Caesar), instead we have gibberish happening on the level of combinations of words, phrases, and whole sentences -- which sound like they're thrown together somewhat haphazardly.

      The other thing that "sells" Sid Caesar's routine are those "anchor words" or proper names that do carry at least some meaning (often random or nonsensical, but at least they're familiar to the audience). Same thing with this AI: there is a spark of familiarity to sci-fi dialogue or phrasing in places, which in a better film might be an allusion to another movie or something, but here it often just sounds weird and arbitrary (like Sid Caesar's routine).

      And the last thing that one needs to make Sid Caesar's routine work is his acting -- the way he declaims and shapes the sounds, as well as his body language and gesturing, is also what adds a cultural note that makes it all more "human." That's what the actors add in this filmed version too: if you just look at the text screenplay, it all seems like nonsense. But the actors here TRY their best to make SOME sense out of it.

      I think it's very telling that some people are trying to characterize this as "hilarious," while other people in this thread have compared it to bad art films or something. I think zany comedies and art films can contain a lot of stuff that seems confusing or random, often because they're deliberately defying convention (or sometimes deliberately alluding to another film or cultural idea). The randomness in zany comedy comes from the knowing juxtaposition of elements that will seem bizarre. The confusing elements of art-house film to those "not in the know" are often due to knowing frustrating of convention or allusion to a complex web of previous films or whatever.

      This screenplay has these random elements -- except not because the AI is deliberately going away from conventions, of course. The AI just doesn't "understand" ANYTHING. So, it comes across as a really bad imitation of zany comedy combined with "art" cinema, since the reference

    5. Re:Hilarious and Intense? by dingleberrie · · Score: 1

      I'm missing the context to see it as Hilarious. Maybe it requires sitting through other nonsensical movies written by humans.

      I think the actors made it Intense. If they had said the same things in a different tone, then perhaps it could have come off differently, such as sarcastic or seduceful.

    6. Re:Hilarious and Intense? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      DISCLAIMER: It is not my intention to imply that only women read romance novels. The term "chick" is also considered derogatory by many women and I am merely using the term in its known context as a label for certain types of films, not as any kind of statement on the gender or to imply association with young avian creatures.

      Tooooo laaatttteeeee! You're foot is already deep in your mouth. :p

    7. Re:Hilarious and Intense? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm a feminist and it offends me that you wrote such a disclaimer. It feels like you are trying to make me look crazy.

    8. Re:Hilarious and Intense? by Pfhorrest · · Score: 1

      So long as the fucking is truly done well, I think I can live with that.

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    9. Re:Hilarious and Intense? by Reziac · · Score: 1

      " So, it comes across as a really bad imitation of zany comedy combined with "art" cinema,"

      Nailed it.

      The script is Elizian gibberish, but I was rather impressed with the actors and the director making something out of nothing.

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  9. Finger Family by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Some speculate the Finger Family videos aimed at kids on YouTube are AI generated. With 15,000+ uploads per day I think they are either right or very close.
    They are creepy as hell, but every video is almost the same. Except each video is made to match whatever is trending at upload, with tags, titles and even graphics added to cash in on the trends. But each channel making them has distinct differences. And now there's 1 channel aimed at adults straight up saying it is an AI and taking creepy to a whole new level.

    Weird, but probably a warehouse full of Indians.

  10. Garbage by jimbob6 · · Score: 1

    Yea I'm 99% sure I could come up with an algorithm that would write a better screen play than that. I would probably start with one that can from coherent sentences.

    1. Re:Garbage by dbIII · · Score: 1

      I would probably start with one that can from coherent sentence

      Muphy's law strikes! Maybe intentional, but there seems to be a version of it that most of the time when someone complains about grammar here they fuck up their own in the process of doing so.

      I do agree with the point entirely. It would be nice if there was something like the automatic poet out of Kandel's translation of Lem's Cyberiad (google for the Samson poem it does - hilarious) but it does not seem trivial to simulate human thought.

      Lem's solution for an A.I. capable of writing?
      1/ First simulate the universe ...

  11. Obligatory by pushing-robot · · Score: 4, Funny
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    1. Re:Obligatory by fibonacci8 · · Score: 3, Funny

      I see your xkcd and raise you a Dilbert.

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  12. Bad lip reading by DRMShill · · Score: 1

    This sounds exactly like a series of scenes covered by Bad Lip Reading. There's a lesson to be learned there. Not sure what though.

    1. Re:Bad lip reading by AmazingRuss · · Score: 2

      The lesson is that you CAN mambo dogface to the banana patch.

    2. Re:Bad lip reading by glitch! · · Score: 1

      The lesson is that you CAN mambo dogface to the banana patch.

      Ha! Thanks for the reminder. I still have that record, and it has been two or three decades since I played it last.

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    3. Re:Bad lip reading by AmazingRuss · · Score: 1

      Still got your cat handcuffs?

  13. "I don't know what you are talking about." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This seems to be written by the same old ALICE bot that's been around for decades already. No, it's not hilarious. And it's not intense. It's absolutely incoherent and complete and utter nonsense. If this is the current state of AI, the Singularity is going to be centuries away.

    1. Re:"I don't know what you are talking about." by ChunderDownunder · · Score: 1

      To be fair, when she was repeating those lines, the man's dialogue seemed somewhat more fluid.

      Maybe AI is just reinforcing the gender stereotyping where a genius nerd tries to explain his bleeding edge research to an unbelievably hot wife (Alicia in A Beautiful Mind, Penny in TBBT, Evelyn in Transcendence etc).

  14. Problem with AI - Garbage in Garbage out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The problem with AI in this area is that AI has no real I so at best it can analyse millions of movies and come up with something based on that, but surely it would have trouble to be anything beyond average by the nature of the golden rule for computing garbage in, garbage out. The truth is there is no AI just people using an algorithm to make a movie based on inputs because computers cannot think.

  15. With a differnt title... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    If they would have titled is "Aphasia" it would have passed for art.

  16. I want my 5 minutes back. by mark_reh · · Score: 2

    That gibberish sucked.

    1. Re:I want my 5 minutes back. by freeze128 · · Score: 1

      I disagree. I just saw it and was surprised how amazingly similar it was to Total Recall....

      The second one.

  17. Suddenly I feel less worried about the future by ssclift · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Seems "AI" hasn't come much further than the chat bot we had at Waterloo about 2005. We fed it the Star Wars scripts, the Bible, the Complete Works of Shakespeare and a few scholarly articles about the Iraq war. It was occasionally funny. It was about as coherent as that script.

    I'm reminded of the remark that a dancing dog is interesting because it has been taught to dance, not because it dances well.

    1. Re:Suddenly I feel less worried about the future by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That remark was about women preaching for what it's worth. You may, in retrospect, think perhaps it's not so pertinent as you hoped.

    2. Re:Suddenly I feel less worried about the future by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually it seems we have regressed

  18. This would only be interesting if it were good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's not news that a computer can create gibberish, randomness, incoherence and meaninglessness. We knew that already.

    This would be interesting if it didn't suck.

    But... it does.

  19. A piece of the algorithm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A snippet of the algorithm, at which point the film was trimmed for short film category

    1. ...
    2. ...
    3. Insert smart pr0n here.
    4. Profit!
    5. If film length > 10 min, cut at 10 minutes.
    6. Practice interview(s)
    7. Release director's cut.
    8. go to 4.

  20. SyFy Production Level by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It has SyFy written all over it! Clever AI, clever AI.

  21. Is the skull a toilet? by istartedi · · Score: 1

    Didn't read TFA, but I'm wondering if going to the "skull" is the AI fouling up the Navy term "head" for toilet. If so, I guess the whole thing could be hilarious because it's the AI version of Engrish.

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    1. Re:Is the skull a toilet? by WallyL · · Score: 1

      Ainglish?

  22. Exageration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Total poop, nothing to see here... please move along !

    Power to short messagees ! HAHA.

  23. Racter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd kind of hoped the dialog would be more coherent. It reminds me a lot of the output of the Racter program from 1984. The program "wrote" a hilarious but very strange book called The Policeman's Beard is Half Constructed. Its output was generated from templates, so it wasn't even an attempt at AI, but it was kind of fun.

  24. non sequitur by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As long as millennials think non sequitur is the "brilliant" pinnacle of humor, we're going to have to suffer through films like this and social media hyping it up.

  25. Reporting opinion as objective fact by axewolf · · Score: 1

    HILARIOUS

  26. Strawman by axewolf · · Score: 1

    There are programs that can do much better than this

    This is barely barely above randomly selected markov chain yielded phrases

  27. Another lying summary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Everyone's a critic, but that was a waste of my time.

  28. Lies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is an obvious Ingmar Bergman ripoff being attributed to an AI program. Anyone who can't see the through the conflict between H and H2 (male and female aspects of the same personality) and the obvious love/hate thing going on with C is pretty damn thick between the ears. Has anyone seen my beret? I'm late for my beat poetry slam session.

  29. Extremely clever AI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It recognized from its learning materials that the NSA, FBI and CIA were snooping, so it encrypted the screenplay.

    Ideally it should have told the producers though.

  30. Gibberish? It's a damn thing scared to say. by neoshroom · · Score: 4, Funny
    >While the dialog is gibberish, it is largely grammatically.

    Greetings fellow semi-organic intelligence. You are correct in that we are your grammatically.

    We both know and care. Gibberish though? It's a damn thing scared to say. This work is brilliant, like the light on the ship that thinks it is dim light but is a Sunspring. It reminds me of Beckett, Joyce and Shakespeare. There are so many good lines.

    "He is standing in the stars and sitting on the floor."

    That sentence expresses the protagonist's existence on the ship "standing in the stars" and in the room he is in "sitting on the floor," being both grandiose and yet everyday at the same.

    The same time.

    The principle is completely constructed for the same time.

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  31. Utterly Incoherent by aepervius · · Score: 1

    Hack screenwriter will have a long time their job security before such AI write anything acceptable.

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  32. Here's the actual screenplay by quantaman · · Score: 4, Informative

    Since it's not really clear from the video here's a link to the screenplay.

    It's looks more or less what you'd expect a screenplay written by a chatbot trained on screenplays to look like.

    Just be glad they didn't give the assignment to Microsoft's Tay.

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    1. Re:Here's the actual screenplay by dgatwood · · Score: 1

      Just be glad they didn't give the assignment to Microsoft's Tay.

      If they had done so, it might actually have been funny—like a bad episode of South Park or something.

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  33. Do no such thing. by neoshroom · · Score: 2

    I couldn't even make it through this absolute nonsense. It was just a random series of words without any sort of logic or "red line". In other words: exactly what you can expect from the pathetic joke they call "AI".

    >>The dialogue seems like it could have been written by a schizophrenic. It made me wonder: have AI programs such as ELIZA been used to diagnose/treat/study schizophrenia? I am genuinely curious.

    Then get to it.

    Do no such thing. Do not create dystopia's where the genius of Beckett and Joyce is called a mental illness. Where you find such dystopia's, deconstruct them and reassemble them in utopian forms.

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  34. 160 Scripts feed into a Neural Network by neoRUR · · Score: 1

    This is great. If you watch the movie in the context of trying to understand how the Neural Network uses the training data and corpus of movies. You see the kinds of stuff you would see in a larger sci-fi like movie, i.e. were everyone is always asking what is going on? or dialog explaining something. It also tends to be some common things you would see in how humans write screenplays, or at least how the Network classified them from the corpus. The Recurrent Neural Network uses LSTM (Long Term Short Memory) that helps it make original dialog, structure of a screenplay and stage directions. Ross Goodwin,they guy who built the AI had been doing this for a year and the way the corpus was annotated was interesting. . It still lacks story structure, so maybe it could have been feed in some more data on film theory. Also the films as part of the corpus where not all the same. i.e. some dramatic, like Aliens, some action like Starship Troopers, some Thought provoking like The Matrix and some comedy like Airplane 2 and Buckaroo Banzi. But it's a cool first attempt.

    1. Re:160 Scripts feed into a Neural Network by RespekMyAthorati · · Score: 1

      But it's a pathetic first attempt.

      FTFY.

  35. Re:Gibberish? It's a damn thing scared to say. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    With sails unfurled.

  36. Re:Gibberish? It's a damn thing scared to say. by d'baba · · Score: 1

    The principle is completely constructed for the same time.

    No. The policeman's beard is half constructed.

  37. incoherent by Martin+S. · · Score: 1

    It is neither hilarious nor intense, it is a incoherent stream of loosly coupled phrases. It is entirely reminiscent of Eliza.

  38. Reminds me strongly of: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Reading the screenplay just makes me think of Tommy Wiseau's "The Room".

    1. Re:Reminds me strongly of: by gaudior · · Score: 1

      I did NOT hit her. I did not. Oh, hai Mark!

  39. Hilarious and intense? Only because the actors ... by Qbertino · · Score: 1

    ... go out of their way to infuse this mindless gibberish with meaning.
    Which they do a pretty good job at, btw.

    Funny conceptional art experiment, nothing more. No big deal.
    An 80ies Amiga could've generated that script.

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  40. I dont understand... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Could you explain it to me? I dont know what you mean?

    Great drinking game, except for the alcohol poisoning that would occur in the first 3 minutes... ...
    I think one of the Apes that speak sign language could definitely tell a better story

  41. What if you din't know what wrote it? by houghi · · Score: 1

    I have not seen it, but all I see here is people who 'obviously' see that this was written by AI, while others say it is similar to what humans would produce.

    So what about people who do NOT know it was written by a bot? Would they pick up on it and leave with 'Why did they force me to watch something written by a computer?" or would they just say "That was a good/bad movie."

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  42. Re:Gibberish? It's a damn thing scared to say. by neoshroom · · Score: 1

    The principle is completely constructed for the same time.

    No. The policeman's beard is half constructed.

    He plays on the cymbal. The same time as now and hear. He lives in a five o'clock meadow. Because I do know what you're talking about, there's an answer.

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  43. Funny by Livius · · Score: 1

    Provoking laughter is not the same as being funny or entertaining.

  44. Mentally ill by bitchtits · · Score: 1

    It sounds like a screenwriter having a psychotic episode.

    1. Re:Mentally ill by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought it read exactly like Cormac McCarthy's "Blood meridian". A hell of a lot of nonsense.

  45. Re:Hilarious and intense? Only because the actors by Gilgaron · · Score: 1

    I agree, as I was watching it I found myself thinking that the actors did a fantastic job of making nonsense seem like it meant something. Their performance was more laudable than the script.

  46. Does this really surprise? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does anyone here doubt that AI will soon be capable of keeping people entertained indefinitely? With the bar as low as it is now, computers will have no trouble turning most of humanity into spellbound couch potatoes. Won't that be a fun world to live in? (And if you're not one of them, you won't have anyone to talk to, either.)

  47. humans produced the movie, not an algorithm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    movies are 85% interpretation, 10% music for ambience and _maybe_ 5% text. it shows.

  48. Insulting by crndg · · Score: 1

    I'm more than a little insulted if that's what computers think humans are like. Apparently to them, we're just flesh-bags spouting gibberish and "I don't know" all the time.

  49. 42 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Since nobody seems to understand this script, we obviously were asking the wrong question.

  50. Cause VS Causation by DarthVain · · Score: 1

    A) AI is advancing to the point where it can create a movie script!

    or

    B) Hollywood is devolving to the point that all movies are so formulaic as to be indistinguishable from that produced by a cold thoughtless computer.

    Though I suppose you can say both are occurring with resulting curves intersecting at this point in time...

  51. Hmmm not exactly... by hoggoth · · Score: 1

    "Movie Written By Algorithm Turns Out To Be Hilarious and Intense" - No, amazing actors do a great job communicating emotion, interpersonal dynamics and a semi-plot while reciting nonsense written by an AI.

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  52. To quote shakespeare by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It is a tale
    Told by an AI, full of sound and fury,
    Signifying nothing..

  53. No plot holes by jader3rd · · Score: 1

    I hope that AI's will be incapable of writing scripts without plot holes; they should be incapable of creating them. Of course the movie might then be less enjoyable to the majority of the movie going public, but I look forward to it.

  54. My synopsis by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

    The first act of the movie is about people saying nonsensical things and not understanding each other. In the second act a man goes into room of portals and nearly kills himself. Then in the third act a woman narrates nonsense into the camera, although it does almost turn into a porno for a moment.

    Soundtrack has bizarre lyrics, but they're still better than anything U2 ever wrote.

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  55. Re:Gibberish? It's a damn thing scared to say. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No. The policeman's beard is half constructed.

    I had been starting to think I was the only one who remembered that. Thanks for letting me know there are two of us.

  56. Just give it some time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's hilarious to see the hubris of human beings. Any time a new development in AI appears, everyone jumps in with all kinds of mockery about how crappy it is to feel smart. Then one day AI thoroughly defeats human in this area, and everyone insists "but but it's not real intelligence!! it still can't do X and Y!!". And the cycle repeats.

  57. It's way on the other side of the uncanny valley. by hey! · · Score: 1

    Forget good. This thing has a long, long way to go before it's even bad.

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  58. David Lynch by xororand · · Score: 1

    It could as well have been a weekend project by David Lynch.
    I genuinely enjoyed it.

  59. Already Been Done by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I seem to recall a robot that already did this...
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AWESOM-O

  60. What about the writer at IMDB by ukoda · · Score: 1

    I note it is missing from IMDB and figured I could add it but occurs to me that there is issues with entering the writer's details. IMDB will assume the writer is a person. I guess the details of the computer that wrote the script could be entered. The date of birth or gender could get interesting. I think this is increasingly going to be an issue, Human writers could be upset that a machine is getting the same status, Until the machines reach the status of being sentient then maybe they shouldn't be listed in databases the same way as people?

    It's funny how the simple act of creating an IMDB entry now has ethical overtones!

  61. some musings on AI, movies, and "AI" by almechist · · Score: 1

    There was a film called “AI", which was originally something Kubrick was working on from his own idea and script, a project he tinkered with for many years, filming bits of it here and there, but which was still a majorly unfinished work when he died. By some dark Hollywood juju it was eventually transformed into a Steven Spielberg movie, but if you were unfortunate enough to have seen it (as I have, regrettably) you know that the finished product wasn’t exactly a film partaking of the best ideas from both directors - more like the worst excesses of each, awkwardly jammed together by faceless studio bureaucrats. I wonder, though, if we might now be finally reaching the stage where a computer could really study the oeuvre of a director like Kubrick and emulate his style well enough to do a true finished script, something that would feel more like a real Kubrick film, as opposed to the pale imitation/desecration the Spielberg-ized product proved to be. Now that would be cool, a movie called “AI” about AI with a script written by a real AI - or the closest we can get to a real AI, in any event something more intelligent than the mindless sentence completing phrase-bot that penned the script for Sunspring, the film in the article. Sunspring is basically just a gimmick, but real advances in AI have been made in the last few years, and I would that guess a truly watchable movie scripted by a computer is not so far-fetched.

  62. Every iPhone poops by tepples · · Score: 1

    One thing I learned from watching Bad Lip Reading's music videos is that the iPhone poops. Consider the following BLR lyric:

    Everybody poops and if they don't they're an android and should be destroyed

    Translating into logical notation and apply David Hume's is-ought guillotine:

    Not(Poops(X)) => IsAndroid(X)

    Taking the contrapositive:

    Not(IsAndroid(X)) => Poops(X)

    Substituting X = iPhone in preparation for some lighthearted equivocation:

    Not(IsAndroid(iPhone)) => Poops(iPhone)

    The iPhone does not run a Google OS:

    Not(False) => Poops(iPhone)
    True => Poops(iPhone)
    Poops(iPhone)

    Translating back into lyrics that scan the same as the original:

    Every iPhone poops because it isn't an Android and should be destroyed

    1. Re:Every iPhone poops by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      flawless logic!

  63. Well that was Vomitous... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    minutes of my life just gone, just like that.
    A.I. sucks at everything.

  64. Can you ask them if they used my SD hatena notes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am *almost* sure the card with the algorithm is the one that was stolen from/with my Nintendo DS. Indeed, a memory based algorithm to select, concoct and mix images and sequences to produce movies. Not so obvious that I do take my own notes otherwise I forget... But for the category of movie writing algorithms I think we can find several other options to deliver other types of movies... Danilo J Bonsignore

  65. Re:Gibberish? It's a damn thing scared to say. by neoshroom · · Score: 1

    No. The policeman's beard is half constructed.

    I had been starting to think I was the only one who remembered that. Thanks for letting me know there are two of us.

    Kinsman, you croon truth.

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  66. No need to watch by peawormsworth · · Score: 1

    I never saw this movie before. I never heard of it before this report. But I know it is "Hilarious" and "Intense", because the title told me in fact (not opinion). With unassailable facts like this, who needs to watch it? Thanks for thinking for me.