This is huge news. Everytime I think about it, I become more excited.
But I don't know if this will help linux, maybe it will hurt in some ways, because it's another UNIXLike stealing market from linux.
But linux always with have a killer feature. The price and the independency. But as I said before, I don't see linux getting desktop dominance, because it is too loose, to open, and will be restricted to niches. Average Joe Users, need support and a controlled enviroment, and linux can't offer that, yet. Maybe someday...
or maybe it will be too late.
At first apple mounted a dual cpu, to beat the x86 but it wasn't enough.
At first I couldn't believe on this rumors, because of the painful transition that leads to the current users of Mac base. But now I understand, Apple WANTS TO GROW, and what better way than enjoying a extremely competitive market like the multiple core cpu, with players like Intel, AMD, and who knows even Via.
Economy of scale. Price/Performance Ratio.
MAC MINI should be the first to use x86, I would by one. Centrinos and Semprons it's a huge difference from the g4 used now, I dont now about price and scale, and let's not forget of the Pentium M(P3 586 core), that's a very efficient chip.
It seems that mainframes run on multiple cores with PowerPC, but that is to specialized, and IBM holds everything related to mainframes, to themselves. I don't know if PowerPC can compete with the pace that Intel and AMD is bringing to the market on multiple cores.
Maybe Jobs thinks that too. And he knows much better than me.
But this is great news, except for apple user base, but hey, they don't seem to care much, JOBS IS BETTING THE COMPANY AGAIN, and that's the way microsoft got to the top, betting it all.
Finally we can compare apples to errr apples? hehe PCs using the same chip, and with only minor diferences. And some answers will be shown, like:
Is it better to have a controlled hardware base, is it better than beige boxes?
Who makes a better OS experience? MS or Apple?
And many others.
The bottom line is, hackers will unlock the x86 Macs, and it will run linux, windows or even solaris, and the war seems to to have been won by x86, in the desktop. And The MACOSX WILL RUN ON BEIGE BOXES, DELL, HP, ETC.
Emulation is gonna be easier, and that's awesome, that brings a whole new level of OS development, like linux/windows/mac/solaris/freebsd/*bsd bianries, being compatible.
With Multiple cores, why not, one cpu to windows, and other for macosx? with no emulation!?
Well I think it's very exciting, and BRING MACOSX to the PC.
LET THE BATTLE BEGIN!
Hehe, that's nice, now even non-technical people will think they can build a supercomputer.
Maybe that's not a bad thing, but as we all know, windows only gets right(sort of) in the third try or more:-)
Windows 1.0 (crap) Windows 2.0 (crap) Windows 3.x (worked)
Windows NT 3.1 (crap) WIndows NT 3.5 (crap) WIndows NT 3.51 (worked) Windows NT 4.0 (crap, I hate it:-)
Windows 95 (crap) Windows 95 osr2(kinda less crappy) Windows 98 (ubber sluggish crap) Windows 98 se(with 98lite works OK) Windows ME (THE MOST CRAPPY OS IN HISTORY)
Kernel 5.x WIndows 2000 (crap) You have to reboot to change an IP, what a JOKE! WIndows 2000 SPx(kinda crappy) Windows XP (crappy desktop) Windows 2003(Worked, actually this one I use, is the best server to be used as desktop I know:-), but I still don't qualify windows as server OS)
Win2003 is the best windows yet. And if they base Cluster in 2003 but without the bloat, they might have a chance. Like a post before, customizaton is KEY, and a lean OS too, don't want to spend cycles on stupid processing eyecandy.
Maybe M$ is waking up, more and more they are making good tools to monitor the OS, (nothing compared to Solaris DTRACE), and command line tools. Cluster = command line progs, not GUI, AFAIK. So making it possible to automatize CLI functions, is very necesssary.
So is it just a matter of downloading the driver for Doom III and making it work for all distributions of Linux, such as SuSe, Red Hat and others? "The driver works for most distributions," Tippett said. "So, the technology is the same, but there are configuration differences, information, etc. and those sort of things are not without complications. Those sort of issues are difficult to solve across the marketplace." Card maker drivers thus must accommodate not just Linux in addition to Windows, but several variants of the Linux OS. "Each company that packages Linux will do things in their way to suit their customers and so on," Tippett said. "It presents problems, but is not insurmountable. It is more of an awareness that must created." Each distribution thus offers its intrinsic set of challenges, says Nick Triantos, chief software architect for NVIDIA.
"There is a lot of open-source software development done with different Linux distributions, which at times are challenging. Red Hat Enterprise Linux, for example, doesn't change that often. Fedora, which is another Red Hat product, changes very frequently," Triantos said. "In the Linux community, there are those who don't care about how we build our drivers, then there are those who are adamant that everything should be open sourced, and at times they can make it challenging for us to build our drivers. In this case, because we do distribute their drivers as binaries, they can make it more difficult to ship a binary product on top of the rest of a system that is open sourced."
The differences in the dists, make it a knightmare, RFTA too. And how is that easier than CLICK and REBOOT? like I said before? Not worrying about 2.4.6-14.rhl(hypotetical name) kernel etc imcompatibilities.
So is it just a matter of downloading the driver for Doom III and making it work for all distributions of Linux, such as SuSe, Red Hat and others? "The driver works for most distributions," Tippett said. "So, the technology is the same, but there are configuration differences, information, etc. and those sort of things are not without complications. Those sort of issues are difficult to solve across the marketplace."
Card maker drivers thus must accommodate not just Linux in addition to Windows, but several variants of the Linux OS. "Each company that packages Linux will do things in their way to suit their customers and so on," Tippett said. "It presents problems, but is not insurmountable. It is more of an awareness that must created."
Each distribution thus offers its intrinsic set of challenges, says Nick Triantos, chief software architect for NVIDIA. "There is a lot of open-source software development done with different Linux distributions, which at times are challenging. Red Hat Enterprise Linux, for example, doesn't change that often. Fedora, which is another Red Hat product, changes very frequently," Triantos said. "In the Linux community, there are those who don't care about how we build our drivers, then there are those who are adamant that everything should be open sourced, and at times they can make it challenging for us to build our drivers. In this case, because we do distribute their drivers as binaries, they can make it more difficult to ship a binary product on top of the rest of a system that is open sourced."
The differences in the dists, make it a knightmare, RFTA too.
And how is that easier than CLICK and REBOOT?
like I said before?
Not worrying about 2.4.6-14.rhl(hypotetical name) kernel etc imcompatibilities.
Good, that's not very hard, for a unix user. But tell me how is it easier than a click and reboot in windows, so the average joe can easily understand?
C'mon let's be honest.
About the speed, ET seems to be the only one. But windows and linux should have similar speed, how come windows has better speed most of the times?
I will give the kernel crap win32k.sys POS advantage, that locks the entire system, but there's always a way to get better performance, or should be on option for that, in linux too.
In these days, game = 3d video card. And the support of 3d Video cards in linux is pathetic, only nvidia gives some interest on that, but the main reason is because of the MESS that is the interface to make drivers work in LINUX. Every year comes a new bunch of video cards, windows get the drivers, LINUX? don't.
If LINUX wants fo compete with windows on ANYTHING, FIX THE DAMN DRIVERS, make it easy to developers, and support commercial drivers well too, manufactures have the right to keep their source in a very competitive market.
Just check any benchmark of DOOM3 in windows x linux. The result is always, linux is slower, and more difficult to install and conigure the drivers.
Dear IBMer, first, I knew some of you would show up, and if you are not an IBMer, you are probably just a linux zealot.
The operative word - which you used and ignored to take into consideration as important - here is "was". IE, past tense. IBM was a monopolistic power in the PC industry.
Hehe, so you think that they are the good guys now? I should ask how old you are. Not you. You don't seem to have any experience in your life, so you think that behaviour would never come back? I prefer to think that it's more likely to come back than not. Time will tell. I'm just a careful guy.
Furthermore, IBM didn't win the "PC battle" or whatever you're calling it. They lost. That's why we've got this x86 epidemic now: everyone makes them, and there's a lot of shit out there.
You call epidemic, the world call this CHOICE my friend. Of course there are a lot of SHIT, and there are a lot of SHIT LINUX DIST AS WELL. Choice brings this, the best and the worse, not only the average.
Why do you think there are 95% PCs against everything else? Competition, lower prices, more power each upgrade at the same price or lower. This dynamic, is the reason of the success of the PC, with x86 chips brought by INTEL and AMD, NOT BY IBM CHIPS. IBM could build chips(powerpc), they could do it all, but they didn't, because they would never be able to compete with this frantic upgrade cycle.
I used Amiga computer, Motorola based,(later Powerpc), DEAD.
I used Atari ST, DEAD
RISCPC, DEAD, lots of others, ALL DEAD, because ecomomy of scale is what makes PCs so great.
They were great machines, better than PCs at their time? YES, but they were more expensive, non-open, and lesse powerfull than any x86 solutions, in pure processing power.
Epidemic? I disagree, the market has chosen x86.
Apple not dead the same reason IBM, zealots.
By the way, I use beige box since 486, I don't like spending too much money on computers, and suppport? haha, this don't work for people like me(I give support to the support people), and maybe you, a true hardcore geek hacker. What computer do you use? a MAC?:) just teasing.
And I never said they won anything related to PC, and the reasons they lost are simple as two words, incompetence and greed.
Your last paragraph brings to light your true motivation in this post. It's pretty fucking obvious to anyone with half a brain that IBM has no interoperability problems; their products are cutting edge and their innovations allow for nice, new things to be cheap a year or two down the line. Furthermore, IBM is embracing linux, the hallmark of interoperability in the software world. Get off the gack.
AS400, OS/390, MVS, etc, and the ugliest of them all, the crappy AIXit, that is the most non-UNIX(because IBM ALWAYS TRY TO MAKE THINGS THEIR WAY) of the unices, are capable of interoperability? with LINUX? and OS/2? hehe, what a mess. I would never call this gang interoperable, and don't forget windows, that currently RUNS THE WORLD on desktop. I'm no specialist in IBM, thank god, but I know from experience, since trying to install linux or freebsd on crappy aptivas, and NT4 on PowerPC, that they never run nice with other things other than IBM. And by the way, WHAT ABOUT THE "OPEN" POWERPC, the retry to gain PC market? what a disaster, now they have to join hands with Apple, haha, not in the worst nightmares Steve Jobs could see that coming.
IBM is embracing LINUX, because OS/2 tanked, and M$ kicked their asses, and they want revenge. Like everybody that got screwed by M$, like 3COM, NOVELL(NOW SUSE LINUX), ORACLE AND SUN(NETPC), LOTUS(OPS IBM AGAIN), APPLE, etc
Call me gack, I call you naive.
You are right that IBM won't die now because they learned their lessons. They were never in danger of dying anyway. You're, what, 12, 13? IBM is a massive, massive company. Their PC division is a very small fraction of their global operations.
Finally you are giving me some credit,:) and when you do
For quite some time, Linux zealots have been saying nothing but good things about IBM, well let me say this to you, do a litle research on COMPUTER history and you will see that IBM was a greater monopoly than M$, and it was much better in hurting users than M$ itself.
They lost the PC market because THEY WANTED MORE MONOPOLY POWER! And M$ fought a risky game with them, and won. I hate M$ like all here, but IBM is not better, an I go even further saying that if M$ didn't steal the reign from IBM, linux would be much more popular than it is now, yes IBM control freakness, would be good to linux. M$ has it's bad tatics, but IBM tried to push IBM/PC with MCA and OS/2 to the world to become the greatest monopoly of all, well it had to be them or M$, and guess what, I prefer M$.
Some IBMers will say, but OS/2 was much better and more stable. Yes, but it was more closed and incompatible(no drivers). So M$ gave the world an OS that could run on COMPAQ(IBM compatible, white box, EISA) PCs, opening the market for asian companies, DEll, etc. So the conclusion that I get is simple, the world sucks, but it would suck EVEN MORE with IBM in control, because nothing would interoperate, nothing would be cheaper, you would have to choose between, the SUPER EXPENSIVE APPLE AND IBM. Quite an scaring fact.
So please slashdotters, think when you praise IBM, it didn't die, because it was too big, and now they won't die because they have learn their lessons.
I use TightVNC and Radmin, here's why. My systems have to be running 24/7 They are EPGs.
For windows RADMIN is the best. period. Because it works well on windows 9x and NT/XP/2000/2003 without fancing optimizations required. The bad thing about Radmin is that it doens't work behind NAT. second in speed, behind RDP only. File trasfer is very nice.
TightVNC is the second best and I use it to support lots of my clients, becuase of a killer VNC feature. Reverse Conection. Behind NAT they can connect to may VNC client Listening, and then I can control their machines and do my work. And is a very small download 200kb, with an exe an one dll.
RealVNC doesn't have Tight, so using modem or ADSL it's only usable with 8 bit colors. but is''ok with 8bit, and supports reverse.
TridiaVNCPro 1.5 Slow VNC, but supports multiple monitors.
UltraVNC Buggy, Too heavy, but ambitious. Tihgtvnc works better and it's smaller, with less dlls.
RDP, is the fastest on windows but being M$ is too integrated, limited, and buggy, I would trust it, and I don't. on XP it disconnects the current user, on 2000/2003 it forks another user, is a mess, they always make things more complicated than necessary. I'm not sure if gets the same image quality of Radmin and Timbuktu, using 16 bit.
PCanywhere 11 is interesting supports dialup and DUAL MONITORS, a very rare feature. A little bloated but has it uses.
Laplink has lots of options, the anywhere is like gotomypc, a demon running on your pc, even behind NAT connects to a server and gives you control of your computer using a web browser, very powerful, but monthly charges, so I don't use it. But some people do. I think it is based on VNC.
Gotomypc faster than Laplink anywhere, and has a very small client. Probably the best commercial version, but monthly payment.
Timbuktu 5 Pro Works on dialup and is very good LAN, very good image quality and speed. Has a chat, and intercom(never worked for me) Very interesting, check it out.
Remotely Anywhere http://www.remotelyanywhere.com/ Very interesting, has a concept of being conected to a host, that a think may be an option to work behind NAT and monitor your pcs behind a firewall. Has a very small client, 80kb. A little complicated to setup. I'm still studying it.
ControlIT (Computer Associates CA) Has chat, and a very cool way to record your session. But is buggy, not stable, and too much integrated in the system. Too many conflicting dlls and versions. It's fast, works on dialup and IPX too.
Others NetOP Dan Soft 7.5 Laplink Gold 12 (non tested yet) PC DUO
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Let me correct my other post.
I don't code much for living, but I managed some projects, and programmers. But I put a list of priorities in a project.
The most important thing for me in a project? RELIABILITY. Because it's cheaper for me and the client. I don't want to spend my time fixing things that shouldn't be fixed. So therefore, NON-PORTABILITY to ROBUST PLATAFORMS(UNIX etc) other than windows in C#, makes JAVA a superior language.
I don't care if I code in C# in 20% less lines than JAVA(and that isn't true), running only in windows make it an option that I just can't accept.
I hate both languages, C# and JAVA, both are slow, and resource hungry, but I never will put ease of use and code, in front of reliability and portability, and effience.
So let's bring back VB? Maybe C# is VB... you know.
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I don't code much for living, but I managed some projects, and programmers. But I put a list of priorities in a project.
The most important thing for me in a project? RELIABILITY. Because it's cheaper for me and the client. I don't want to spend my time fixing things that shouldn't be fixed. So therefore, NON-PORTABILITY to ROBUST PLATAFORMS(UNIX etc) other than windows in C#, makes JAVA a superior language.
I don't care if I code in C# in 20% less lines than JAVA(and that isn't true), running only in windows make it an option that I just can't accept.
I hate both languages, C# and JAVA, both are slow, and resource hungry, but a never will put reliability, portability, in front of ease of use.
So let's bring back VB? Maybe VB is C#... you know.
And that's the reason that BSD isn't as popular as Linux, even knowing that IT IS a better system than Linux.
Linux is more democratic, anybody can join the group, (even the ones that doesn't have the skills required to build an OS from the ground up, hehe), and BSD is controlled by the FreeBSD Core, like the other BSDs.
I think in the end maybe some corporations are "afraid" of the commitments with a group, and they see linux as a wild spread fenomen that is just impossible to stop and control, because there are just too many options, too many distribuitons, and that's a good and a bad thing.
Well being a BSD guy, I admit, Linux is winning, but market dominance, doesn't mean better products, or peoples lifes easier, just look at M$ and Windows, so Linux must be carefl with that.
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FreeBSD user since 1994, and OpenBSD since this year. OpenBSD pf is kicking ass.
Linux user since 1994 ??? only when an app or doesn't work or avaiable on FreeBSD.;-)
Windows??? Never as server, most of the time as desktop.
And that's the reason that BSD isn't as popular as Linux, even knowing that IT IS a better system than Linux.
Linux is more democratic, anybody can join the group, (even the ones that doesn't have the skills required to build an OS from the ground up, hehe), and BSD is controlled by the FreeBSD Core, like the other BSDs.
I think in the end maybe some corporations are "afraid" of the commitments with a group, and they see linux as a wild spread fenomen that is just impossible to stop and control, because there are just too many options, too many distribuitons, and that's a good and a bad thing.
Well being a BSD guy, I admit, Linux is winning, but market dominance, doesn't mean better products, or peoples lifes easier, just look at M$ and Windows, so Linux must be carefl with that.
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FreeBSD user since 1994, and OpenBSD since this year. OpenBSD pf is kicking ass.
Linux user since 1994 ??? only when an app or doesn't work or avaiable on FreeBSD.;-)
Windows??? Never as server, most of the time as desktop.
Well How about that, I guess the truth really hurts, and that's exactly what I'm talking about.
With this agressive attitude, you are just making the problem even worse, for the people that hate US it's just the perfect reason, to make you fear more than you already are.
I like the US, I like the american culture, but things are not looking good in the US right now. Ok, we all don't agree with taliban methods, and this guy shouldn't be doing this. But what about Mr BUSH?
The US are being put aside the world, US are becoming MORE AND MORE ISOLATED, it's very sad, the land of the free, and home of the braves are not FREE anymore, people can't live the way they want, and home of the braves? with all this FEAR from the terrorists?
Please, american people, you are fighters, you DON'T LET ANYONE CHOOSE YOUR DESTINY, STOP THIS CRAZY MAN CALLED BUSH AND HIS NUT HELPERS, this old farts guys called the FALCONS, they are endangering the US as a nation, you are losing sovereignty.
I always wanna to go the US, I have been there one time, as a child went to disney world. Those were good times.
But now, when you can't catch a plane withou showing visas, even for americans, show that the fear is high and something terrible is close to happen. That reminds me of the nazys, when they shout "Papiere Dokumente"
I always wanted to go the US, but now I don't want anymore, and I feel sad about that.
I'm in Brazil. And I really hope US people take back the control of their country. About Brazil? Because of endemic corruption is a much harder task, but we don't have to worry about taliban, yet.
Well may be a little but offtopic, but maybe not.
I like the US, I like the american culture, but things are not looking good in the US right now. Ok, we all don't agree with taliban methods, and this guy shouldn't be doing this. But what about Mr BUSH?
The US are being put aside the world, US are becoming MORE AND MORE ISOLATED, it's very sad, the land of the free, and home of the braves are not FREE anymore, people can't live the way they want, and home of the braves? with all this FEAR from the terrorists?
Please, american people, you are fighters, you DON'T LET ANYONE CHOOSE YOUR DESTINY, STOP THIS CRAZY MAN CALLED BUSH AND HIS NUT HELPERS, this old farts guys called the FALCONS, they are endangering the US as a nation, you are losing sovereignty.
I always wanna to go the US, I have been there one time, as a child went to disney world. Those were good times.
But now, when you can't catch a plane withou showing visas, even for americans, show that the fear is high and something terrible is close to happen. That reminds me of the nazys, when they shout "Papiere Dokumente"
I always wanted to go the US, but now I don't want anymore, and I feel sad about that.
I'm in Brazil. And I really hope US people take back the control of their country. About Brazil? Because of endemic corruption is a much harder task, but we don't have to worry about taliban, yet.
I don't know if anybody noticed, but isn't SCO using Linux? or am I telling old news.
http://www.netcraft.com/whats?site=www.sco.com
How da hell they want CREDIBILITY when they use the competitor OS? The matter of injuction?
Ok the sue is against IBM, but in the end the problem is related to linux isn't?
We know that SCO sucks, and theirs products are crap, but c'mon at least try to eat your onw dog food, even Microsoft does it, ( except for hotmail, that still runs Solaris and FreeBSD hidden in the back:-0 hehe, STILL TODAY )
Yes your honor, we suck and use Linux, but we'll sue their asses, cause there is no other way for us, as we are dying please let us grab somebody to make the fall less hard.
It's not about hits per second, it's about efficiency, and I think he (Brian I guess) did it very well.
Some stupid idiotic slashdotters say, my servers handle this and that, but the point is, HOW MUCH DOES IT COST? HOW MANY MACHINES DOU YOU NEED? WHAT OS YOU WILL USE? WHAT'S THE BANDWITH SPENT?
Let's not forget also the attitude to optimize the content to the modem users, well they also need to be taken in consideration.
About the cache use, very intelligent, WE USE CACHE EVERYDAY all the time. Let's use it with efficiency.
The 2 points where maybe some people are missing are, APACHED WAS ASS KICKED in the ass by this server RESIN, honestly I've never heard of it, I'm off web development since a long time... and
PHP and APACHE can't be a good combination when things get ugly, and you need scalability. That's what I think was the most useful information, along with the IPC info.
Well I'm impressed, It loads fast for me and I have a Half T1, so I could se if it was slashdotted, like somebody said, if/.ed it's a bandwith problem, never the CPU SETUP.
Kudos to Solaris with it's threads and Sun servers(Blade isn't even a server!! IT's a workstation) with it's architechture.
And I tought JAVA was slow, maybe for other uses, but in web development, it seems to be the best option yet.
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This is huge news. Everytime I think about it, I become more excited. But I don't know if this will help linux, maybe it will hurt in some ways, because it's another UNIXLike stealing market from linux. But linux always with have a killer feature. The price and the independency. But as I said before, I don't see linux getting desktop dominance, because it is too loose, to open, and will be restricted to niches. Average Joe Users, need support and a controlled enviroment, and linux can't offer that, yet. Maybe someday...
or maybe it will be too late. At first apple mounted a dual cpu, to beat the x86 but it wasn't enough. At first I couldn't believe on this rumors, because of the painful transition that leads to the current users of Mac base. But now I understand, Apple WANTS TO GROW, and what better way than enjoying a extremely competitive market like the multiple core cpu, with players like Intel, AMD, and who knows even Via. Economy of scale. Price/Performance Ratio. MAC MINI should be the first to use x86, I would by one. Centrinos and Semprons it's a huge difference from the g4 used now, I dont now about price and scale, and let's not forget of the Pentium M(P3 586 core), that's a very efficient chip. It seems that mainframes run on multiple cores with PowerPC, but that is to specialized, and IBM holds everything related to mainframes, to themselves. I don't know if PowerPC can compete with the pace that Intel and AMD is bringing to the market on multiple cores. Maybe Jobs thinks that too. And he knows much better than me. But this is great news, except for apple user base, but hey, they don't seem to care much, JOBS IS BETTING THE COMPANY AGAIN, and that's the way microsoft got to the top, betting it all. Finally we can compare apples to errr apples? hehe PCs using the same chip, and with only minor diferences. And some answers will be shown, like: Is it better to have a controlled hardware base, is it better than beige boxes? Who makes a better OS experience? MS or Apple? And many others. The bottom line is, hackers will unlock the x86 Macs, and it will run linux, windows or even solaris, and the war seems to to have been won by x86, in the desktop. And The MACOSX WILL RUN ON BEIGE BOXES, DELL, HP, ETC. Emulation is gonna be easier, and that's awesome, that brings a whole new level of OS development, like linux/windows/mac/solaris/freebsd/*bsd bianries, being compatible. With Multiple cores, why not, one cpu to windows, and other for macosx? with no emulation!? Well I think it's very exciting, and BRING MACOSX to the PC. LET THE BATTLE BEGIN!
Hehe, that's nice, now even non-technical people will think they can build a supercomputer.
:-)
:-)
:-), but I still don't qualify windows as server OS)
Maybe that's not a bad thing, but as we all know, windows only gets right(sort of) in the third try or more
Windows 1.0 (crap)
Windows 2.0 (crap)
Windows 3.x (worked)
Windows NT 3.1 (crap)
WIndows NT 3.5 (crap)
WIndows NT 3.51 (worked)
Windows NT 4.0 (crap, I hate it
Windows 95 (crap)
Windows 95 osr2(kinda less crappy)
Windows 98 (ubber sluggish crap)
Windows 98 se(with 98lite works OK)
Windows ME (THE MOST CRAPPY OS IN HISTORY)
Kernel 5.x
WIndows 2000 (crap) You have to reboot to change an IP, what a JOKE!
WIndows 2000 SPx(kinda crappy)
Windows XP (crappy desktop)
Windows 2003(Worked, actually this one I use, is the best server to be used as desktop I know
Win2003 is the best windows yet. And if they base Cluster in 2003 but without the bloat, they might have a chance. Like a post before, customizaton is KEY, and a lean OS too, don't want to spend cycles on stupid processing eyecandy.
Maybe M$ is waking up, more and more they are making good tools to monitor the OS, (nothing compared to Solaris DTRACE), and command line tools.
Cluster = command line progs, not GUI, AFAIK.
So making it possible to automatize CLI functions, is very necesssary.
So is it just a matter of downloading the driver for Doom III and making it work for all distributions of Linux, such as SuSe, Red Hat and others? "The driver works for most distributions," Tippett said. "So, the technology is the same, but there are configuration differences, information, etc. and those sort of things are not without complications. Those sort of issues are difficult to solve across the marketplace." Card maker drivers thus must accommodate not just Linux in addition to Windows, but several variants of the Linux OS. "Each company that packages Linux will do things in their way to suit their customers and so on," Tippett said. "It presents problems, but is not insurmountable. It is more of an awareness that must created." Each distribution thus offers its intrinsic set of challenges, says Nick Triantos, chief software architect for NVIDIA.
"There is a lot of open-source software development done with different Linux distributions, which at times are challenging. Red Hat Enterprise Linux, for example, doesn't change that often. Fedora, which is another Red Hat product, changes very frequently," Triantos said. "In the Linux community, there are those who don't care about how we build our drivers, then there are those who are adamant that everything should be open sourced, and at times they can make it challenging for us to build our drivers. In this case, because we do distribute their drivers as binaries, they can make it more difficult to ship a binary product on top of the rest of a system that is open sourced."
The differences in the dists, make it a knightmare, RFTA too. And how is that easier than CLICK and REBOOT? like I said before? Not worrying about 2.4.6-14.rhl(hypotetical name) kernel etc imcompatibilities.
So is it just a matter of downloading the driver for Doom III and making it work for all distributions of Linux, such as SuSe, Red Hat and others? "The driver works for most distributions," Tippett said. "So, the technology is the same, but there are configuration differences, information, etc. and those sort of things are not without complications. Those sort of issues are difficult to solve across the marketplace." Card maker drivers thus must accommodate not just Linux in addition to Windows, but several variants of the Linux OS. "Each company that packages Linux will do things in their way to suit their customers and so on," Tippett said. "It presents problems, but is not insurmountable. It is more of an awareness that must created." Each distribution thus offers its intrinsic set of challenges, says Nick Triantos, chief software architect for NVIDIA. "There is a lot of open-source software development done with different Linux distributions, which at times are challenging. Red Hat Enterprise Linux, for example, doesn't change that often. Fedora, which is another Red Hat product, changes very frequently," Triantos said. "In the Linux community, there are those who don't care about how we build our drivers, then there are those who are adamant that everything should be open sourced, and at times they can make it challenging for us to build our drivers. In this case, because we do distribute their drivers as binaries, they can make it more difficult to ship a binary product on top of the rest of a system that is open sourced." The differences in the dists, make it a knightmare, RFTA too. And how is that easier than CLICK and REBOOT? like I said before? Not worrying about 2.4.6-14.rhl(hypotetical name) kernel etc imcompatibilities.
Good, that's not very hard, for a unix user. But tell me how is it easier than a click and reboot in windows, so the average joe can easily understand? C'mon let's be honest. About the speed, ET seems to be the only one. But windows and linux should have similar speed, how come windows has better speed most of the times? I will give the kernel crap win32k.sys POS advantage, that locks the entire system, but there's always a way to get better performance, or should be on option for that, in linux too.
In these days, game = 3d video card.
And the support of 3d Video cards in linux is pathetic, only nvidia gives some interest on that, but the main reason is because of the MESS that is the interface to make drivers work in LINUX.
Every year comes a new bunch of video cards, windows get the drivers, LINUX? don't.
If LINUX wants fo compete with windows on ANYTHING, FIX THE DAMN DRIVERS, make it easy to developers, and support commercial drivers well too, manufactures have the right to keep their source in a very competitive market.
Just check any benchmark of DOOM3 in windows x linux. The result is always, linux is slower, and more difficult to install and conigure the drivers.
Dear IBMer, first, I knew some of you would show up, and if you are not an IBMer, you are probably just a linux zealot.
:) just teasing.
And I never said they won anything related to PC, and the reasons they lost are simple as two words, incompetence and greed.
:) and when you do
The operative word - which you used and ignored to take into consideration as important - here is "was". IE, past tense. IBM was a monopolistic power in the PC industry.
Hehe, so you think that they are the good guys now? I should ask how old you are. Not you. You don't seem to have any experience in your life, so you think that behaviour would never come back? I prefer to think that it's more likely to come back than not. Time will tell. I'm just a careful guy.
Furthermore, IBM didn't win the "PC battle" or whatever you're calling it. They lost. That's why we've got this x86 epidemic now: everyone makes them, and there's a lot of shit out there.
You call epidemic, the world call this CHOICE my friend. Of course there are a lot of SHIT, and there are a lot of SHIT LINUX DIST AS WELL. Choice brings this, the best and the worse, not only the average. Why do you think there are 95% PCs against everything else? Competition, lower prices, more power each upgrade at the same price or lower. This dynamic, is the reason of the success of the PC, with x86 chips brought by INTEL and AMD, NOT BY IBM CHIPS. IBM could build chips(powerpc), they could do it all, but they didn't, because they would never be able to compete with this frantic upgrade cycle. I used Amiga computer, Motorola based,(later Powerpc), DEAD. I used Atari ST, DEAD RISCPC, DEAD, lots of others, ALL DEAD, because ecomomy of scale is what makes PCs so great. They were great machines, better than PCs at their time? YES, but they were more expensive, non-open, and lesse powerfull than any x86 solutions, in pure processing power. Epidemic? I disagree, the market has chosen x86. Apple not dead the same reason IBM, zealots. By the way, I use beige box since 486, I don't like spending too much money on computers, and suppport? haha, this don't work for people like me(I give support to the support people), and maybe you, a true hardcore geek hacker. What computer do you use? a MAC?
Your last paragraph brings to light your true motivation in this post. It's pretty fucking obvious to anyone with half a brain that IBM has no interoperability problems; their products are cutting edge and their innovations allow for nice, new things to be cheap a year or two down the line. Furthermore, IBM is embracing linux, the hallmark of interoperability in the software world. Get off the gack.
AS400, OS/390, MVS, etc, and the ugliest of them all, the crappy AIXit, that is the most non-UNIX(because IBM ALWAYS TRY TO MAKE THINGS THEIR WAY) of the unices, are capable of interoperability? with LINUX? and OS/2? hehe, what a mess. I would never call this gang interoperable, and don't forget windows, that currently RUNS THE WORLD on desktop. I'm no specialist in IBM, thank god, but I know from experience, since trying to install linux or freebsd on crappy aptivas, and NT4 on PowerPC, that they never run nice with other things other than IBM. And by the way, WHAT ABOUT THE "OPEN" POWERPC, the retry to gain PC market? what a disaster, now they have to join hands with Apple, haha, not in the worst nightmares Steve Jobs could see that coming. IBM is embracing LINUX, because OS/2 tanked, and M$ kicked their asses, and they want revenge. Like everybody that got screwed by M$, like 3COM, NOVELL(NOW SUSE LINUX), ORACLE AND SUN(NETPC), LOTUS(OPS IBM AGAIN), APPLE, etc Call me gack, I call you naive.
You are right that IBM won't die now because they learned their lessons. They were never in danger of dying anyway. You're, what, 12, 13? IBM is a massive, massive company. Their PC division is a very small fraction of their global operations.
Finally you are giving me some credit,
I Agree, see my post below called IBM is not your FRIEND! THEY LOST PC cause of that to see if you agree with me too.
Well I have to take this out of my chest.
For quite some time, Linux zealots have been saying nothing but good things about IBM, well let me say this to you, do a litle research on COMPUTER history and you will see that IBM was a greater monopoly than M$, and it was much better in hurting users than M$ itself.
They lost the PC market because THEY WANTED MORE MONOPOLY POWER! And M$ fought a risky game with them, and won. I hate M$ like all here, but IBM is not better, an I go even further saying that if M$ didn't steal the reign from IBM, linux would be much more popular than it is now, yes IBM control freakness, would be good to linux. M$ has it's bad tatics, but IBM tried to push IBM/PC with MCA and OS/2 to the world to become the greatest monopoly of all, well it had to be them or M$, and guess what, I prefer M$.
Some IBMers will say, but OS/2 was much better and more stable. Yes, but it was more closed and incompatible(no drivers). So M$ gave the world an OS that could run on COMPAQ(IBM compatible, white box, EISA) PCs, opening the market for asian companies, DEll, etc. So the conclusion that I get is simple, the world sucks, but it would suck EVEN MORE with IBM in control, because nothing would interoperate, nothing would be cheaper, you would have to choose between, the SUPER EXPENSIVE APPLE AND IBM. Quite an scaring fact.
So please slashdotters, think when you praise IBM, it didn't die, because it was too big, and now they won't die because they have learn their lessons.
Violence brings more violence.
If the US will be attacked again, we don't know.
But if that happens the rest of the world will say, well didn't you vote for Bush? You should expect that coming...
I use TightVNC and Radmin, here's why.
My systems have to be running 24/7
They are EPGs.
For windows RADMIN is the best. period. Because it works well on windows 9x and NT/XP/2000/2003 without fancing optimizations required. The bad thing about Radmin is that it doens't work behind NAT. second in speed, behind RDP only.
File trasfer is very nice.
TightVNC is the second best and I use it to support lots of my clients, becuase of a killer VNC feature. Reverse Conection. Behind NAT they can connect to may VNC client Listening, and then I can control their machines and do my work.
And is a very small download 200kb, with an exe an one dll.
RealVNC doesn't have Tight, so using modem or ADSL it's only usable with 8 bit colors. but is''ok with 8bit, and supports reverse.
TridiaVNCPro 1.5
Slow VNC, but supports multiple monitors.
UltraVNC
Buggy, Too heavy, but ambitious.
Tihgtvnc works better and it's smaller, with less dlls.
RDP, is the fastest on windows but being M$ is too integrated, limited, and buggy, I would trust it, and I don't. on XP it disconnects the current user, on 2000/2003 it forks another user, is a mess, they always make things more complicated than necessary.
I'm not sure if gets the same image quality of Radmin and Timbuktu, using 16 bit.
PCanywhere 11 is interesting supports dialup and DUAL MONITORS, a very rare feature.
A little bloated but has it uses.
Laplink has lots of options, the anywhere is like gotomypc, a demon running on your pc, even behind NAT connects to a server and gives you control of your computer using a web browser, very powerful, but monthly charges, so I don't use it. But some people do. I think it is based on VNC.
Gotomypc faster than Laplink anywhere, and has a very small client. Probably the best commercial version, but monthly payment.
Timbuktu 5 Pro
Works on dialup and is very good LAN, very good image quality and speed.
Has a chat, and intercom(never worked for me)
Very interesting, check it out.
Remotely Anywhere
http://www.remotelyanywhere.com/
Very interesting, has a concept of being conected to a host, that a think may be an option to work behind NAT and monitor your pcs behind a firewall.
Has a very small client, 80kb. A little complicated to setup. I'm still studying it.
ControlIT (Computer Associates CA)
Has chat, and a very cool way to record your session.
But is buggy, not stable, and too much integrated in the system. Too many conflicting dlls and versions.
It's fast, works on dialup and IPX too.
Others
NetOP Dan Soft 7.5
Laplink Gold 12 (non tested yet)
PC DUO
Let me correct my other post. I don't code much for living, but I managed some projects, and programmers. But I put a list of priorities in a project. The most important thing for me in a project? RELIABILITY. Because it's cheaper for me and the client. I don't want to spend my time fixing things that shouldn't be fixed. So therefore, NON-PORTABILITY to ROBUST PLATAFORMS(UNIX etc) other than windows in C#, makes JAVA a superior language. I don't care if I code in C# in 20% less lines than JAVA(and that isn't true), running only in windows make it an option that I just can't accept. I hate both languages, C# and JAVA, both are slow, and resource hungry, but I never will put ease of use and code, in front of reliability and portability, and effience. So let's bring back VB? Maybe C# is VB... you know.
I don't code much for living, but I managed some projects, and programmers. But I put a list of priorities in a project. The most important thing for me in a project? RELIABILITY. Because it's cheaper for me and the client. I don't want to spend my time fixing things that shouldn't be fixed. So therefore, NON-PORTABILITY to ROBUST PLATAFORMS(UNIX etc) other than windows in C#, makes JAVA a superior language. I don't care if I code in C# in 20% less lines than JAVA(and that isn't true), running only in windows make it an option that I just can't accept. I hate both languages, C# and JAVA, both are slow, and resource hungry, but a never will put reliability, portability, in front of ease of use. So let's bring back VB? Maybe VB is C#... you know.
And that's the reason that BSD isn't as popular as Linux, even knowing that IT IS a better system than Linux.
;-)
Linux is more democratic, anybody can join the group, (even the ones that doesn't have the skills required to build an OS from the ground up, hehe), and BSD is controlled by the FreeBSD Core, like the other BSDs.
I think in the end maybe some corporations are "afraid" of the commitments with a group, and they see linux as a wild spread fenomen that is just impossible to stop and control, because there are just too many options, too many distribuitons, and that's a good and a bad thing.
Well being a BSD guy, I admit, Linux is winning, but market dominance, doesn't mean better products, or peoples lifes easier, just look at M$ and Windows, so Linux must be carefl with that.
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FreeBSD user since 1994, and OpenBSD since this year. OpenBSD pf is kicking ass.
Linux user since 1994 ??? only when an app or doesn't work or avaiable on FreeBSD.
Windows??? Never as server, most of the time as desktop.
And that's the reason that BSD isn't as popular as Linux, even knowing that IT IS a better system than Linux. Linux is more democratic, anybody can join the group, (even the ones that doesn't have the skills required to build an OS from the ground up, hehe), and BSD is controlled by the FreeBSD Core, like the other BSDs. I think in the end maybe some corporations are "afraid" of the commitments with a group, and they see linux as a wild spread fenomen that is just impossible to stop and control, because there are just too many options, too many distribuitons, and that's a good and a bad thing. Well being a BSD guy, I admit, Linux is winning, but market dominance, doesn't mean better products, or peoples lifes easier, just look at M$ and Windows, so Linux must be carefl with that. ===== FreeBSD user since 1994, and OpenBSD since this year. OpenBSD pf is kicking ass. Linux user since 1994 ??? only when an app or doesn't work or avaiable on FreeBSD. ;-)
Windows??? Never as server, most of the time as desktop.
Well How about that, I guess the truth really hurts, and that's exactly what I'm talking about. With this agressive attitude, you are just making the problem even worse, for the people that hate US it's just the perfect reason, to make you fear more than you already are.
Well may be a little but offtopic, but maybe not.
I like the US, I like the american culture, but things are not looking good in the US right now. Ok, we all don't agree with taliban methods, and this guy shouldn't be doing this. But what about Mr BUSH?
The US are being put aside the world, US are becoming MORE AND MORE ISOLATED, it's very sad, the land of the free, and home of the braves are not FREE anymore, people can't live the way they want, and home of the braves? with all this FEAR from the terrorists?
Please, american people, you are fighters, you DON'T LET ANYONE CHOOSE YOUR DESTINY, STOP THIS CRAZY MAN CALLED BUSH AND HIS NUT HELPERS, this old farts guys called the FALCONS, they are endangering the US as a nation, you are losing sovereignty.
I always wanna to go the US, I have been there one time, as a child went to disney world. Those were good times.
But now, when you can't catch a plane withou showing visas, even for americans, show that the fear is high and something terrible is close to happen. That reminds me of the nazys, when they shout "Papiere Dokumente"
I always wanted to go the US, but now I don't want anymore, and I feel sad about that.
I'm in Brazil. And I really hope US people take back the control of their country. About Brazil? Because of endemic corruption is a much harder task, but we don't have to worry about taliban, yet.
Well may be a little but offtopic, but maybe not. I like the US, I like the american culture, but things are not looking good in the US right now. Ok, we all don't agree with taliban methods, and this guy shouldn't be doing this. But what about Mr BUSH? The US are being put aside the world, US are becoming MORE AND MORE ISOLATED, it's very sad, the land of the free, and home of the braves are not FREE anymore, people can't live the way they want, and home of the braves? with all this FEAR from the terrorists? Please, american people, you are fighters, you DON'T LET ANYONE CHOOSE YOUR DESTINY, STOP THIS CRAZY MAN CALLED BUSH AND HIS NUT HELPERS, this old farts guys called the FALCONS, they are endangering the US as a nation, you are losing sovereignty. I always wanna to go the US, I have been there one time, as a child went to disney world. Those were good times. But now, when you can't catch a plane withou showing visas, even for americans, show that the fear is high and something terrible is close to happen. That reminds me of the nazys, when they shout "Papiere Dokumente" I always wanted to go the US, but now I don't want anymore, and I feel sad about that. I'm in Brazil. And I really hope US people take back the control of their country. About Brazil? Because of endemic corruption is a much harder task, but we don't have to worry about taliban, yet.
I don't know if anybody noticed, but isn't SCO using Linux? or am I telling old news. http://www.netcraft.com/whats?site=www.sco.com How da hell they want CREDIBILITY when they use the competitor OS? The matter of injuction? Ok the sue is against IBM, but in the end the problem is related to linux isn't? We know that SCO sucks, and theirs products are crap, but c'mon at least try to eat your onw dog food, even Microsoft does it, ( except for hotmail, that still runs Solaris and FreeBSD hidden in the back :-0 hehe, STILL TODAY )
Yes your honor, we suck and use Linux, but we'll sue their asses, cause there is no other way for us, as we are dying please let us grab somebody to make the fall less hard.
It's not about hits per second, it's about efficiency, and I think he (Brian I guess) did it very well. Some stupid idiotic slashdotters say, my servers handle this and that, but the point is, HOW MUCH DOES IT COST? HOW MANY MACHINES DOU YOU NEED? WHAT OS YOU WILL USE? WHAT'S THE BANDWITH SPENT? Let's not forget also the attitude to optimize the content to the modem users, well they also need to be taken in consideration. About the cache use, very intelligent, WE USE CACHE EVERYDAY all the time. Let's use it with efficiency. The 2 points where maybe some people are missing are, APACHED WAS ASS KICKED in the ass by this server RESIN, honestly I've never heard of it, I'm off web development since a long time... and PHP and APACHE can't be a good combination when things get ugly, and you need scalability. That's what I think was the most useful information, along with the IPC info. Well I'm impressed, It loads fast for me and I have a Half T1, so I could se if it was slashdotted, like somebody said, if /.ed it's a bandwith problem, never the CPU SETUP.
Kudos to Solaris with it's threads and Sun servers(Blade isn't even a server!! IT's a workstation) with it's architechture.
And I tought JAVA was slow, maybe for other uses, but in web development, it seems to be the best option yet.