I was all psyched to see it. MAJOR fan of the Lone Gunmen.
I was willing to swallow a lot of the story line if they would have simply come up with some kinda high tech explanation for it like that other Gibson episode.
Have these people ever heard of backups?
Am I the only one that would like to see them get some new writers and spin the Lone Gunmen off into their own show?
Is it me, or has the passing of useless, incident specific legislation become the passtime of a government who lives moment to moment in a never ending string of knee-jerk reactions?
Incedently, it's also illegal to own ferrets in California. An animal that's been domesticated for centuries and who couldn't live more than a few weeks in the wild is considered a wild animal. This would be a surprise to my 6 fuzzies who sleep 20 hours a day to support their habit of holding a no-holds-bared party for 4 hours every night when I get home from work. They aren't wild animals, they are party animals.
This is what keeps me out of California Although the motorcycle helmet deal fairly sux too. Motorcycle helmets offer zero protection above something like 15 mph. After that, you might as well have a brick tied to your head. Can you say whiplash? Anyone getting on a motorcycle should know that they are taking their lives in their own hands with all the cellphone-talking, speeding, oblivious, SUV driving yuppies on the road today. I know I do. As Super Chicken said: "You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred." This is of course off topic.
I don't see the filtering of text as being a very difficult thing but graphics would be a trickier issue. I think that if this were going to be done, that something akin to what's done on TV where the "bad" words are simply replaced by or something like that would be more likely, as it doesn't convey any of the meaning of the "bad" word that the author intended.
I'm reminded of the skit on Saturday Night Live where "Charlton Heston" (played by Phil Hartman was reading Madonna's book to make an audio book. The producers were making him say "vagina" instead of the word that Madonna had used in her book. It was either quite amusing or I'm twisted, or both.
Anyway, as much as I hate censorship, this might be the lesser of evils, if something could be done about the graphics. Maybe a subroutine to scan the images for wee-wees, boobies and hoo-hoos?. (I wonder if those words would be censored?) What if we just use new slang that the censors didn't recognise?
I agree with you completely. There are far too many of these organizations. I'm particularly amused by the ones that are formed on the premise of "protecting the American family." With the number of people getting married and breeding, I don't think that there's any shortage of American families. When were they placed on the endangered species list? I'll resist the urge to rant on the suitability of most humans to be responsible enough to raise children without breaking them in some way. Most of these groups have also conveniently forgotten the concept of the seperation of church and state, not to mention the fact that the USA was never meant by the founders to be a Christians-only club.
Memes are terribly hard to shove back in the wrapper after someone takes them out exposes them to the meme collecting sheeple who get sucked in by the meme de jour. Memes that tend to corkscrew into the brain of J.Random Citizen faster than anything usually include references to children, family, religion, morals (not ethics), sex and violence. Actual numbers are inconsequential as long as the writer can show that they are in the majority and on the same side of the issue as the readers (or rather convincing the reader that they would be a foul beast for disagreeing with the author.) What kind of monster would allow harm to befall children? These memes are replicated in churches, schools, television, newspaper and anywhere that two or more people get together to try and shock each other with horror stories from the trenches. J.Random Public doesn't want to be confused by the facts. They don't want someone telling them that politicians trying to peddle their own agenda duped them. They want to feel good about their actions and this only serve to reinforce the meme. The more the spread it and get approval and agreement from other citizens, the more justified they feel in holding this meme, nurturing it, cuddling it, stroking its fur, naming it George. They'll only discard it if enough people whom they respect laugh at them and tell them what fools they were for buying the meme in the first place. The only answer I can think of is for us to go out and laugh at anyone we hear propagating these inaccuracies. Memes don't just die, they must be terminated with extreme prejudice.
What can I say? Interesting piece and many parts are spot-on from your POV.
Just a few points I'd like to make though:
Most of us geeks are fairly thick skinned from spending way too much time in this environment. After a while it's 2nd nature to tune out the noise. Sure, this behavior spills over into meatspace. I blame that on parents, teachers and IRL peer groups (you'll see me blame them again in a few sentences.) This behavior doesn't start on the net, it's just magnified here. It serves to cull the herd. Evolution in action, unless you're in Kansas.
All web sites can't be everything to everyone. If someone doesn't like the stuff on/. no one is twisting their arm to read. (This applies to Howard Stern too. A good many people listen to him in the morning because they expect him to say something to tick them off.)
Sexual Harrasment: oh yeah, I've been there. It happens. There are also places where it doesn't happen. While I've noticed that occasionaly some guys on here will make a derogatory comment aimed at someone's gender, I won't blame that on being geeks. You can blame parents, teachers and IRL peer groups before you ever get to geek society. They have their influence before most people get on the net.
While I agree that most of the people that built the internet are guys, women have been involved in computers since day one. I won't do the usual rant here but do some research if you haven't already heard the names. We aren't all just now getting interested in computers. I've been a geek since I got my first machine back in the '80s and stayed up all night long writing my first assembler programs in 6502 by doing pokes in BASIC before I could acquire an assembler.
I guess it takes a certain kind of stubborness to keep writing and posting your POV in the face of brutal flames. More power to you. When you get criticism from someone who actually thought about what you said and worked on a reply other than "You suck!" then accept the success that points to: at least you made someone think. Everyone is never going to agree 100% with you.
There's no mention of this on their website that I could find. Does anyone have a URL for a page on their site that contains a press release?
Please excuse me for not getting my knickers in a bunch with no solid proof to back this up.
If it's true, then this pretty much sucks and looks like a bad business move. I really don't understand why they would do it unless they were simply trying to kill the product.
I certainly didn't suggest that there was anything wrong with Mike Tiemann or Mark Ewing. I'm sure that MT will bring all sorts of good stuff to Red Hat.
As I don't know how Mark Ewing feels about the move, I certainly wouldn't even hazard an explanation of how he feels. Who knows, maybe the Center was his brainchild. I certainly don't know.
Mergers and acquisions are certainly sensitive times for all employees involved. I recently worked for a company where once we were acquired, there was no merging of personnel. Redundant positions fell to the parent company employees without exception. Management told us that there would be room for all to keep us from quiting while they were busy writing our "your services are no longer required" letters. It's totally a judgement call for management.
Being a founder of a company is a little different than just being a peon though. You invest your life when you work for a startup and if the rest of your business partners take an action that puts you in a situation in which you're not happy, then you've got a lot more at stake than Joe Employee. Again, I don't know what Mark Ewing thinks about this so it's all speculative and my humble opinion.
I didn't suggest that this move would harm open source. I don't think that it will make a single bit more difference in Open Source than any other butterfly in a rainforest. Of course if this does bring about the end of life as we know it, I didn't say this.
I realize after re-reading my post that I might have sounded a bit lawsuit crazy but I owe that to being burned by working for a startup a few years ago that got big, fast and started discarding the people that built the company by "offering" them "promotions" and then acting surprised when the folks pointed out that they realized that it was neither an offer nor a promotion.
Those of us who live in the USA who grew up watching British shows on PBS will most certainly get the humour.
Those who don't, will laugh anyway out of a fear of others thinking that they aren't cultured enough to get the joke.
While there are a lot of colloquialisms in much of Pratchett's work, I've enjoyed every single Discworld novel I've read.
I only fear that what was done to Red Dwarf and Doctor Who by Hollywood will happen to Good Omens. That would be more of a shame that some people not getting a few jokes.
This kind of thing happens all the time in the business world. As it happened on the tail end of the Cygnus deal I'm sure that while it will be touted as taking advantage of blah blah blah and maximizing yadda yadda yadda for the good of the company (and the benefit of shareholders.) What it really means is that they struck some sort of deal on the table doing the acquisition and they are just following through with it.
As to whether Marc Ewing is going to be happy with the situation can only be answered by him. If I were in the situation I'd probably be quite ticked off by it and would start looking for a better situation... as well as a lawyer to look over my contracts VERY carfully to look at for my interests.
I certainly wouldn't attribute to this the death of open source at Red Hat. While that certainly may be somewhere in the future, I really don't see this single action as being that significant in the grand scheme of things.
The reason they are all saying the same thing is that they don't understand the tech. They have advisors to tell them what the popular stance is for the majority of the people that care about those issues and they adopt that viewpoint into their platform. BFD.
What most voters in the USA don't realize is that the popular vote counts for DIDDLY. The electoral collage puts who they want into the office. The idea that the populace votes in the president is a popular myth but no more true than the Good Times Virus.
So arguing the point may be fun but we might as well be saying yadda yadda yadda. It accomplishes the same thing.
I think that the big problem here is that when the laws for patents were drawn, software didn't exist.
Maybe what we need is a new set of rules. A new legal device that takes into account the issues involved in creating software. Possibly have sections involving the protection of algorithms, icon designs, user interface design or other aspects of the functionality. Dependant on certain criteria, these seperate sections could have a more reasonable amount of time in which they were allowed protection under the law so that the holders of the rights to the device have a chance to recoup their investment in the R&D of their software.
As far as patenting the human genome or even those of other creatures found in nature. I'm sorry but the stuff was already there and they just took the time to stick labels on it. While I believe that they are doing a great deal of good by doing this research, they did not create the DNA for existing creatures (including humans.) As was pointed out in another reply, this is equivalent to weeing on something to make it yours. I do believe that they should be allowed to patent any mutations that they might create as well as the method for doing those mutations but what they are doing is equivalent to decompiling humans, sticking some comments in, recompiling and then saying "I did this." We can't legally do it with software and I think that the same principles should apply to what they are doing.
I was really surprised to read that you have bought into the media hype that proclaims 2000 as the first year of the 21st century and the new millennium. I suppose when you count sheep in your sleep you start by numbering the first one as ZERO?
Honestly, I made myself promise not to get flustered by all the media hype about the millennium and the century and all that stuff but i can't help but say something when someone who should know better buys into it and then repackages it for mass consumption.
Of course I live in the delusion that most other geeks feel similarly about the issue. You're fairly harshing my mello, duder.
As for Y2K at work, I made sure that all the system which fall under my charge were compliant so there was no surprise when everything failed to fail.
While I don't watch the news tat much, I really haven't heard the media blame geeks for the total letdown. As for the people who've spent in the $K's on MREs and ammo and Road Warrior attire in planning for the post apocalyptic party... I wouldn't be surprised if they try to take out their frustration on their local geeks. After all, they were really looking forward to anarchy. All dressed up with no "Thunderdome."
I suppose professional wrestling will be more popular than ever.
Before I say anything else let me state clearly that I AM NOT A MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL. The following information is strictly from my personal knowledge and experience. YMMV so don't kvetch.
A company called IOMED has a treatment for CTS that doesn't involve surgery, shots or any invasive procedures. Their treatment is most effective if the CTS is caught in the early stages. This is the company that makes the product so they don't sell it to the general public. If you are interested in finding out more you'll have to contact them or look for a doctor in your area that is familliar with treatment of inflammation with iontophoresis. I've known people who've used this treatment and I've seen it work. I haven't been treated with it myself.
Besides all that, it gets points from me for just being cool tech.
http://www.iomed.com is the primary site. http://www.iomed.com/technology/technology.htm is where you'll find CTS mentioned.
When I was a kid my dad had an IMSAI 8080 which we later got rid of and got an IMSAI VDP 80 which was a terminal and S-100 all rolled into one 15lb box. That's the box on which I learned 8080 assembler.
I saved up my pennies and bought my own Apple ][ (then later a//e and a//c) and started to program on that. I'm 36 years old. I've played with every kind of computer I could get my hands on. I currently own a bunch if Intel boxes, a couple of Macs, a couple of Sparcs, a couple of AT&T 3B1's, a Lisa 2, a TRS/80 model 16b and even a TRS/80 Model 100 (that tiny notebook.) I mostly work with different flavors of unix these days and get the biggest kick out of making stuff work that isn't supposed to. I don't plan on going into retirement just because I get older.
Incidently, I do have receipies on my computer (at least one of them) and I know how to cook quite well. I also work on my own car. I guess there are advantages to having been a tomboy growing up and a dilettante.
I do love Woz. Always have. He's such a cute teddybear of a guy. Gotta respect a guy that chooses his principles over money and power. What a guy.
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I was all psyched to see it.
MAJOR fan of the Lone Gunmen.
I was willing to swallow a lot of the story line if they would have simply come up with some kinda high tech explanation for it like that other Gibson episode.
Have these people ever heard of backups?
Am I the only one that would like to see them get some new writers and spin the Lone Gunmen off into their own show?
They are my heros.
Their kung fu is the best.
-Mu
Is it me, or has the passing of useless, incident specific legislation become the passtime of a government who lives moment to moment in a never ending string of knee-jerk reactions?
Incedently, it's also illegal to own ferrets in California.
An animal that's been domesticated for centuries and who couldn't live more than a few weeks in the wild is considered a wild animal. This would be a surprise to my 6 fuzzies who sleep 20 hours a day to support their habit of holding a no-holds-bared party for 4 hours every night when I get home from work. They aren't wild animals, they are party animals.
This is what keeps me out of California Although the motorcycle helmet deal fairly sux too. Motorcycle helmets offer zero protection above something like 15 mph. After that, you might as well have a brick tied to your head. Can you say whiplash? Anyone getting on a motorcycle should know that they are taking their lives in their own hands with all the cellphone-talking, speeding, oblivious, SUV driving yuppies on the road today. I know I do. As Super Chicken said: "You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred." This is of course off topic.
-chaosgrrl
I don't see the filtering of text as being a very difficult thing but graphics would be a trickier issue.
I think that if this were going to be done, that something akin to what's done on TV where the "bad" words are simply replaced by or something like that would be more likely, as it doesn't convey any of the meaning of the "bad" word that the author intended.
I'm reminded of the skit on Saturday Night Live where "Charlton Heston" (played by Phil Hartman was reading Madonna's book to make an audio book. The producers were making him say "vagina" instead of the word that Madonna had used in her book. It was either quite amusing or I'm twisted, or both.
Anyway, as much as I hate censorship, this might be the lesser of evils, if something could be done about the graphics. Maybe a subroutine to scan the images for wee-wees, boobies and hoo-hoos?. (I wonder if those words would be censored?)
What if we just use new slang that the censors didn't recognise?
-chaosgrrl
I agree with you completely. There are far too many of these organizations.
I'm particularly amused by the ones that are formed on the premise of "protecting the American family." With the number of people getting married and breeding, I don't think that there's any shortage of American families. When were they placed on the endangered species list? I'll resist the urge to rant on the suitability of most humans to be responsible enough to raise children without breaking them in some way.
Most of these groups have also conveniently forgotten the concept of the seperation of church and state, not to mention the fact that the USA was never meant by the founders to be a Christians-only club.
-chaosgrrl
Memes are terribly hard to shove back in the wrapper after someone takes them out exposes them to the meme collecting sheeple who get sucked in by the meme de jour.
Memes that tend to corkscrew into the brain of J.Random Citizen faster than anything usually include references to children, family, religion, morals (not ethics), sex and violence.
Actual numbers are inconsequential as long as the writer can show that they are in the majority and on the same side of the issue as the readers (or rather convincing the reader that they would be a foul beast for disagreeing with the author.) What kind of monster would allow harm to befall children? These memes are replicated in churches, schools, television, newspaper and anywhere that two or more people get together to try and shock each other with horror stories from the trenches.
J.Random Public doesn't want to be confused by the facts. They don't want someone telling them that politicians trying to peddle their own agenda duped them. They want to feel good about their actions and this only serve to reinforce the meme. The more the spread it and get approval and agreement from other citizens, the more justified they feel in holding this meme, nurturing it, cuddling it, stroking its fur, naming it George. They'll only discard it if enough people whom they respect laugh at them and tell them what fools they were for buying the meme in the first place.
The only answer I can think of is for us to go out and laugh at anyone we hear propagating these inaccuracies. Memes don't just die, they must be terminated with extreme prejudice.
-chaosgrrl
You're paying for the right to watch it, not re-broadcast it.
Same thing as buying a DVD. You've not buying the rights to show the movie in a theater, you're buying the rights to play it in your home.
Don't believe me, read the licensing agreement on your movies before clicking the "ACCEPT" button.
-chaos
Let's see, you take someone else's broadcast material and then you stick it up on the web.
What did they think would happen?
Pitty it didn't cause someone's death so it could
be nominated for a Darwin.
This is one of those Too Stupid To Live things.
-mu
What can I say? Interesting piece and many parts are spot-on from your POV.
/. no one is twisting their arm to read. (This applies to Howard Stern too. A good many people listen to him in the morning because they expect him to say something to tick them off.)
Just a few points I'd like to make though:
Most of us geeks are fairly thick skinned from spending way too much time in this environment. After a while it's 2nd nature to tune out the noise. Sure, this behavior spills over into meatspace. I blame that on parents, teachers and IRL peer groups (you'll see me blame them again in a few sentences.) This behavior doesn't start on the net, it's just magnified here. It serves to cull the herd. Evolution in action, unless you're in Kansas.
All web sites can't be everything to everyone. If someone doesn't like the stuff on
Sexual Harrasment: oh yeah, I've been there. It happens. There are also places where it doesn't happen. While I've noticed that occasionaly some guys on here will make a derogatory comment aimed at someone's gender, I won't blame that on being geeks. You can blame parents, teachers and IRL peer groups before you ever get to geek society. They have their influence before most people get on the net.
While I agree that most of the people that built the internet are guys, women have been involved in computers since day one. I won't do the usual rant here but do some research if you haven't already heard the names. We aren't all just now getting interested in computers. I've been a geek since I got my first machine back in the '80s and stayed up all night long writing my first assembler programs in 6502 by doing pokes in BASIC before I could acquire an assembler.
I guess it takes a certain kind of stubborness to keep writing and posting your POV in the face of brutal flames. More power to you. When you get criticism from someone who actually thought about what you said and worked on a reply other than "You suck!" then accept the success that points to: at least you made someone think. Everyone is never going to agree 100% with you.
-chaosgrrl
Everything is true.
FIVE TONS OF FLAX!
-mu
There's no mention of this on their website that I could find. Does anyone have a URL for a page on their site that contains a press release?
Please excuse me for not getting my knickers in a bunch with no solid proof to back this up.
If it's true, then this pretty much sucks and looks like a bad business move. I really don't understand why they would do it unless they were simply trying to kill the product.
Smells like Good Times Virus to me.
-chaos
Dude, you've taken me totally wrong here.
I certainly didn't suggest that there was anything wrong with Mike Tiemann or Mark Ewing. I'm sure that MT will bring all sorts of good stuff to Red Hat.
As I don't know how Mark Ewing feels about the move, I certainly wouldn't even hazard an explanation of how he feels. Who knows, maybe the Center was his brainchild. I certainly don't know.
Mergers and acquisions are certainly sensitive times for all employees involved. I recently worked for a company where once we were acquired, there was no merging of personnel. Redundant positions fell to the parent company employees without exception. Management told us that there would be room for all to keep us from quiting while they were busy writing our "your services are no longer required" letters. It's totally a judgement call for management.
Being a founder of a company is a little different than just being a peon though. You invest your life when you work for a startup and if the rest of your business partners take an action that puts you in a situation in which you're not happy, then you've got a lot more at stake than Joe Employee. Again, I don't know what Mark Ewing thinks about this so it's all speculative and my humble opinion.
I didn't suggest that this move would harm open source. I don't think that it will make a single bit more difference in Open Source than any other butterfly in a rainforest. Of course if this does bring about the end of life as we know it, I didn't say this.
I realize after re-reading my post that I might have sounded a bit lawsuit crazy but I owe that to being burned by working for a startup a few years ago that got big, fast and started discarding the people that built the company by "offering" them "promotions" and then acting surprised when the folks pointed out that they realized that it was neither an offer nor a promotion.
YMMV, I know mine does.
-chaosgrrl
Those of us who live in the USA who grew up watching British shows on PBS will most certainly get the humour.
Those who don't, will laugh anyway out of a fear of others thinking that they aren't cultured enough to get the joke.
While there are a lot of colloquialisms in much of Pratchett's work, I've enjoyed every single Discworld novel I've read.
I only fear that what was done to Red Dwarf and Doctor Who by Hollywood will happen to Good Omens. That would be more of a shame that some people not getting a few jokes.
This kind of thing happens all the time in the business world. As it happened on the tail end of the Cygnus deal I'm sure that while it will be touted as taking advantage of blah blah blah and maximizing yadda yadda yadda for the good of the company (and the benefit of shareholders.) What it really means is that they struck some sort of deal on the table doing the acquisition and they are just following through with it.
As to whether Marc Ewing is going to be happy with the situation can only be answered by him. If I were in the situation I'd probably be quite ticked off by it and would start looking for a better situation... as well as a lawyer to look over my contracts VERY carfully to look at for my interests.
I certainly wouldn't attribute to this the death of open source at Red Hat. While that certainly may be somewhere in the future, I really don't see this single action as being that significant in the grand scheme of things.
-chaosgrrl
Ok, so where can I get the source code?
Moo
-chaosgrrl
The reason they are all saying the same thing is that they don't understand the tech. They have advisors to tell them what the popular stance is for the majority of the people that care about those issues and they adopt that viewpoint into their platform. BFD.
What most voters in the USA don't realize is that the popular vote counts for DIDDLY. The electoral collage puts who they want into the office. The idea that the populace votes in the president is a popular myth but no more true than the Good Times Virus.
So arguing the point may be fun but we might as well be saying yadda yadda yadda. It accomplishes the same thing.
yuck, that was bitter, wasn't it? had to be said.
moo
-chaosgrrl
I think that the big problem here is that when the laws for patents were drawn, software didn't exist.
Maybe what we need is a new set of rules. A new legal device that takes into account the issues involved in creating software. Possibly have sections involving the protection of algorithms, icon designs, user interface design or other aspects of the functionality. Dependant on certain criteria, these seperate sections could have a more reasonable amount of time in which they were allowed protection under the law so that the holders of the rights to the device have a chance to recoup their investment in the R&D of their software.
As far as patenting the human genome or even those of other creatures found in nature. I'm sorry but the stuff was already there and they just took the time to stick labels on it. While I believe that they are doing a great deal of good by doing this research, they did not create the DNA for existing creatures (including humans.) As was pointed out in another reply, this is equivalent to weeing on something to make it yours. I do believe that they should be allowed to patent any mutations that they might create as well as the method for doing those mutations but what they are doing is equivalent to decompiling humans, sticking some comments in, recompiling and then saying "I did this." We can't legally do it with software and I think that the same principles should apply to what they are doing.
-chaosgrrl
I was really surprised to read that you have bought into the media hype that proclaims 2000 as the first year of the 21st century and the new millennium. I suppose when you count sheep in your sleep you start by numbering the first one as ZERO?
Honestly, I made myself promise not to get flustered by all the media hype about the millennium and the century and all that stuff but i can't help but say something when someone who should know better buys into it and then repackages it for mass consumption.
Of course I live in the delusion that most other geeks feel similarly about the issue. You're fairly harshing my mello, duder.
As for Y2K at work, I made sure that all the system which fall under my charge were compliant so there was no surprise when everything failed to fail.
While I don't watch the news tat much, I really haven't heard the media blame geeks for the total letdown. As for the people who've spent in the $K's on MREs and ammo and Road Warrior attire in planning for the post apocalyptic party... I wouldn't be surprised if they try to take out their frustration on their local geeks. After all, they were really looking forward to anarchy. All dressed up with no "Thunderdome."
I suppose professional wrestling will be more popular than ever.
-chaosgrrl
Before I say anything else let me state clearly that I AM NOT A MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL. The following information is strictly from my personal knowledge and experience. YMMV so don't kvetch.
A company called IOMED has a treatment for CTS that doesn't involve surgery, shots or any invasive procedures.
Their treatment is most effective if the CTS is caught in the early stages.
This is the company that makes the product so they don't sell it to the general public. If you are interested in finding out more you'll have to contact them or look for a doctor in your area that is familliar with treatment of inflammation with iontophoresis. I've known people who've used this treatment and I've seen it work. I haven't been treated with it myself.
Besides all that, it gets points from me for just being cool tech.
http://www.iomed.com is the primary site.
http://www.iomed.com/technology/technology.htm is where you'll find CTS mentioned.
-chaosgrrl
I hear yah, Aliera!
//e and a //c) and started to program on that. I'm 36 years old. I've played with every kind of computer I could get my hands on. I currently own a bunch if Intel boxes, a couple of Macs, a couple of Sparcs, a couple of AT&T 3B1's, a Lisa 2, a TRS/80 model 16b and even a TRS/80 Model 100 (that tiny notebook.) I mostly work with different flavors of unix these days and get the biggest kick out of making stuff work that isn't supposed to. I don't plan on going into retirement just because I get older.
When I was a kid my dad had an IMSAI 8080 which we later got rid of and got an IMSAI VDP 80 which was a terminal and S-100 all rolled into one 15lb box.
That's the box on which I learned 8080 assembler.
I saved up my pennies and bought my own Apple ][ (then later a
Incidently, I do have receipies on my computer (at least one of them) and I know how to cook quite well. I also work on my own car. I guess there are advantages to having been a tomboy growing up and a dilettante.
I do love Woz. Always have. He's such a cute teddybear of a guy. Gotta respect a guy that chooses his principles over money and power. What a guy.
Martha Stewart? Who's that?
-chaosgrrl