But that begs the question: Why does Microsoft sell MS Office for the Mac? I mean... if they don't believe in selling software on other platforms because they only want to lock everyone into their own, why is it that they sell software on other platforms?
Furthermore, why don't they lock 3rd party software out of their own OS? I mean, if they want everyone to be *only* MS, all they have to do is remove the ability for 3rd parties to run software on a MS OS unless they pay a hefty licensing fee, a la Nintendo.
First, let me state that I realize that MS is not making mono or dotGNU. It's rather obvious from my post, I thought: "... but until it's finished, here's [something] to tide you over."
As for.NET on *nix being less good than Windows, I think that's likely to be both true and not. MS is in the business of selling software, not just OSs. Note that they still offer, for example, MS Office on the Mac. Implementing.NET on *nix will allow them to move into a market previously untapped, while allowing them to stick with an platform that they're planning to move most of their software to.
That said, Windows will still be the platform they introduce new stuff to first. In short... better to move people to your platform, but if you can't, at least try to sell software on the other platforms.
The main problem with.Net is that it ties you to a specific OS which makes it a pain from a business economics point of view
Um.... MS is currently developing the.Net framework for *nix, at least according to this article (2nd to last paragraph), but until it's finished, there's the DotGNU Project, or Mono to tide you over.
Pardon me for lumping, but you cut to the meat of my argument: *nix needs something to compete directly with DirectX. I'm of the opinion that such a puppy would be the "killer ap" to push linux onto the desktop.
Er.... that's the point. Windows ME is the least stable GUI MS has put out. And I'd rather use it than X. Not that I have much of a choice at work -- the boss won't shell out for a faster computer or newer os. Con of working in a small joint.:)
Ummmm... I believe that's a Palladium key, not machine code... you see a good key (if it is indeed random).
Um.... if it's a private key, then it's no longer good having been published...
Actually, the Windows GUI is quite configurable, although I'll admit that it's clearly not up to your august standards.;)
That said, I find configurability is a pale comparison to stability and performance, which the Win9x GUI has in abundance over Gnome/KDE/X. I would much rather do my serious work on Windows ME over, say, Redhat/Gnome. And, yes, the programs I use for "serious stuff" on my dual-boot WinME/Redhat system are available on both platforms: OpenOffice, Eclipse IDE, IDLE.
Solution:
Linux will not enter the marketplace as a 'End User' OS, but rather as a server OS. Then, slowly, more and more people, lured bythe appeal of a free, non-MS OS, will start switching. SLowly, game makers will start making games for linux.
Ok, to become an "end user" OS, what does *nix have to do? First and foremost, it needs multimedia. And I don't just mean hooking up speakers and running a media player, I mean a good, solid multimedia platform. A programming API that is both easy to program in, and can work with a plethora of hardware configurations.
Microsoft realized it. That's why they built DirectX. Its nearest competitor is OpenGL, but I'm sorry, I'd rather program in DirectX than OpenGL any day of the week.
Second, and intimately related: a decent windowing system. X just doesn't cut the mustard, nor does anything on top of X.
The lack of two things are what's holding *nix away from the "end-user" market, IMO.
Moonraker and The Spy Who Loved Me, as any self-respecting Bond-geek fully knows. Easily one of my favorite Bond characters, evar.
I wonder how they're going to bring him back. At the end of Moonraker he was going off with that short ugly/geeky-but-hot-underneath blond gal. He was a turned good guy... perhaps he'll be a bond ally?
Actually, they *don't* make sense. He compares, for example, numbers generated by Apple to numbers generated by Dell in each of his tests. He uses those numbers against each other; he makes the claim that Apple is boosting their numbers, yet never once takes a look at Dell's numbers (or any of the rest) and the possibility that they may be boosted as well.
In short, I agree with the grandparent. This is a very well-crafted troll.
Er.... I know python pretty well. Perhaps I should send my resume? :D
But that begs the question: Why does Microsoft sell MS Office for the Mac? I mean... if they don't believe in selling software on other platforms because they only want to lock everyone into their own, why is it that they sell software on other platforms?
Furthermore, why don't they lock 3rd party software out of their own OS? I mean, if they want everyone to be *only* MS, all they have to do is remove the ability for 3rd parties to run software on a MS OS unless they pay a hefty licensing fee, a la Nintendo.
First, let me state that I realize that MS is not making mono or dotGNU. It's rather obvious from my post, I thought: "... but until it's finished, here's [something] to tide you over."
.NET on *nix being less good than Windows, I think that's likely to be both true and not. MS is in the business of selling software, not just OSs. Note that they still offer, for example, MS Office on the Mac. Implementing .NET on *nix will allow them to move into a market previously untapped, while allowing them to stick with an platform that they're planning to move most of their software to.
As for
That said, Windows will still be the platform they introduce new stuff to first. In short... better to move people to your platform, but if you can't, at least try to sell software on the other platforms.
And make sure you tell me to switch to HTML when I post a link. :)
Just tell them to go here: The Jargon File.
Yes, I know.
You may make that distinction (probably because you like to be distinguished ;)), but the world at large does not.
And these jocks were hardly 3-4 hrs a week. A couple of hours every other day is more in keeping with their schedule.
Of course... our football team really sucked. Hmm... coincidence?
... are jocks. It's true. Or at least it was 5 years ago. Not a single one of the guys on the football team didn't have a Playstation or N64.
A Smash TV mod is a killer idea!
I mean, come on, how can we discuss this without knowing what it looks like?
Pardon me for lumping, but you cut to the meat of my argument: *nix needs something to compete directly with DirectX. I'm of the opinion that such a puppy would be the "killer ap" to push linux onto the desktop.
Er.... that's the point. Windows ME is the least stable GUI MS has put out. And I'd rather use it than X. Not that I have much of a choice at work -- the boss won't shell out for a faster computer or newer os. Con of working in a small joint. :)
Ummmm... I believe that's a Palladium key, not machine code ... you see a good key (if it is indeed random).
Um.... if it's a private key, then it's no longer good having been published...
Actually, the Windows GUI is quite configurable, although I'll admit that it's clearly not up to your august standards. ;)
That said, I find configurability is a pale comparison to stability and performance, which the Win9x GUI has in abundance over Gnome/KDE/X. I would much rather do my serious work on Windows ME over, say, Redhat/Gnome. And, yes, the programs I use for "serious stuff" on my dual-boot WinME/Redhat system are available on both platforms: OpenOffice, Eclipse IDE, IDLE.
Microsoft realized it. That's why they built DirectX. Its nearest competitor is OpenGL, but I'm sorry, I'd rather program in DirectX than OpenGL any day of the week.
Second, and intimately related: a decent windowing system. X just doesn't cut the mustard, nor does anything on top of X.
The lack of two things are what's holding *nix away from the "end-user" market, IMO.
Wouldn't Beakman vs Bill Nye be the ultimate Celebrity Deathmatch? ;)
The contest has begun. Looks like it's best-path pathfinding.
"They are... MUTANT... sea bass"
Moonraker and The Spy Who Loved Me, as any self-respecting Bond-geek fully knows. Easily one of my favorite Bond characters, evar.
I wonder how they're going to bring him back. At the end of Moonraker he was going off with that short ugly/geeky-but-hot-underneath blond gal. He was a turned good guy... perhaps he'll be a bond ally?
It still doesn't appear to be as fast as most scripting language interpreters. But a very good thing to improve on.
:)
Perhaps a memory resident component would be a better way to go, although I hate anything that saps CPU cycles.
Java >=1.2 == Java 2. Just FYI. :)
"And when will SCO be suing the bastards?"
Heh... Just as soon as they can con a lawyer into believing they have the patent/copyright/etc.
Well, the mailing list seems to be down. Given the lack of posts on this topic, I doubt it's been slashdotted, but you never know. :)
Good point... I thought Sweeden was with the rest of Europe at +1 GMT
Actually, they *don't* make sense. He compares, for example, numbers generated by Apple to numbers generated by Dell in each of his tests. He uses those numbers against each other; he makes the claim that Apple is boosting their numbers, yet never once takes a look at Dell's numbers (or any of the rest) and the possibility that they may be boosted as well.
In short, I agree with the grandparent. This is a very well-crafted troll.